From: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org (believers-digest) To: believers-digest@smoe.org Subject: believers-digest V4 #112 Reply-To: believers@smoe.org Sender: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk believers-digest Thursday, June 29 2000 Volume 04 : Number 112 In Today's believer's digest: ----------------- Re: the survey [cellingson ] Sizzle or Steak ["David S. Kaskela" ] Re: the survey [PBCoustic@aol.com] probably more steak than you need ["Charlie Sweeney" Subject: Re: the survey Would somebody please explain "sizzle or steak" to me? THANX! Chuck Ellingson HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:02:53 -0400 From: "David S. Kaskela" Subject: Sizzle or Steak Hi Chuck- I'm not even sure if Susan knows the origin of the "sizzle or steak" quote since I've heard her ask at numerous shows if "anyone knows the term 'sizzle or steak?' followed by "it's a Philadelphia term, I think" In context Susan uses the "sizzle or steak" reference to introduce the song Vagabond Mouth. If you're not familiar with the lyrics of Vagabond Mouth see Sherlyn Koo's "Susan Werner Lyrics Page" at (http://www.fl.net.au/~sherlyn/sw/) where you will find it listed as Senate of Love. Susan characterizes the "vivacious, flirtatious, outgoing type" as 'sizzle' and the "plodding, steady, hard working type who holds it all together" as the 'steak'. In Vagabond Mouth "the steak speaks!!" The origin of the term as best I can tell was a commercial for Ruth's Chris Steak House in Philadelphia. It's a very exclusive and very pricey restaurant with very good steak. But the price far exceeds the value of the steak. And the gist of the pitch was "anyone can sell a steak, Ruth's Chris Steakhouse sells the sizzle!" Probably more info than you really wanted or needed to know... Dave At 01:29 PM 6/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >Would somebody please explain "sizzle or steak" to me? THANX! > >Chuck Ellingson > >HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org >Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com > > HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:19:26 EDT From: PBCoustic@aol.com Subject: Re: the survey I took it to mean, Do you prefer flash, or substance? Paul HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:18:28 -0400 From: "Charlie Sweeney" Subject: probably more steak than you need Hi all, sizzle or steak? The first time I heard this term, it was attributed to a sales trainer named Zig Ziegler, who wrote a book called "How to sell anything to anybody". His advice was "sell the sizzle not the steak". I seem to remember my Dad telling me that when I was much younger. So I think old Zig may have copped it from someone. A quick Google search yielded a fascinating array of hits, too many to separate a reference to it's originator. It crops up world- wide in marketing and sales. Here's a link that makes reference to music http://www.relaxonline.com/msrg/msrgtip1.html Here's one for the DS9 fans http://homepages.tesco.net/~chris_of_borg/rulesora.html I suppose this exposes my sordid past. Well, ya can't survive eatin' sizzle :-) Charlie Sweeney (=}===# Virtual Guitarist-Something Black http://somethingblack.com http://susanwerner.com http://karensavoca.com http://lastgreatkiss.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ End of believers-digest V4 #112 ******************************* --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- This has been a posting from the Susan Werner believers-digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe believers-digest" in the body of the message