From: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org (believers-digest) To: believers-digest@smoe.org Subject: believers-digest V3 #203 Reply-To: believers@smoe.org Sender: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk believers-digest Tuesday, September 21 1999 Volume 03 : Number 203 In Today's believer's digest: ----------------- another question or two..or so... ["A.T. Schrader" ] Re: another question or two..or so... ["Ron Rosen" ] Re: taping and shows ["Dennis Lovelady" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "A.T. Schrader" Subject: another question or two..or so... First of all, thank you for the welcome! i really feel like this is a friendly and receptive bunch of folks..and i would love to meet some of you at upcoming shows (Rochester? anyone??) I am curious about a few things tho...i hope you don't mind... I've been hearing alot about these pins. Is there a scan to what these things look like...not that i don't believe that they are wonderful! but i'm just wondering what they look like. secondly, does anyone know susan werner's policy on taping her shows. i know some bands are cool with it and almost encourage it ;-), while others aren't too keen and would rather you not...which is fine as well! i just would like to know before i get myself in trouble with anybody...esp susan! ummm...oh yes! the college group that i'm involved with are the one's who book all the bands for the year. this is a possiblity (with none too subtle persuasion from me ;-) that they may be interested in booking susan werner. is there any info that can be had (e-mail address, phone #) for booking info? thank you for that great review of Christine Levin's concert. She's coming to Rochester real soon and i was debating whether to go home for it or not...i guess the choice has been made ^_^ ...umm...susan content...it's the same place susan is playing at in Novemeber *happy bounce!!* - -hi angie! can't wait to see ya in November!! amy -my posts usually aren't this long..really! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:21:19 -0700 From: "Ron Rosen" Subject: Re: another question or two..or so... Susan's booking agent is Fleming-Tamulevich www.flemtam.com I've never seen anyone tape a Susan show except her own people videotaping for her. That doesn't mean it's not ok. - -----Original Message-----believers@smoe.org From: A.T. Schrader To: believers@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: another question or two..or so... > >First of all, thank you for the welcome! i really feel >like this is a friendly and receptive bunch of >folks..and i would love to meet some of you at >upcoming shows (Rochester? anyone??) > >I am curious about a few things tho...i hope you don't >mind... > >I've been hearing alot about these pins. Is there a >scan to what these things look like...not that i don't >believe that they are wonderful! but i'm just >wondering what they look like. > >secondly, does anyone know susan werner's policy on >taping her shows. i know some bands are cool with it >and almost encourage it ;-), while others aren't too >keen and would rather you not...which is fine as well! >i just would like to know before i get myself in >trouble with anybody...esp susan! > >ummm...oh yes! the college group that i'm involved >with are the one's who book all the bands for the >year. this is a possiblity (with none too subtle >persuasion from me ;-) that they may be interested in >booking susan werner. is there any info that can be >had (e-mail address, phone #) for booking info? > >thank you for that great review of Christine Levin's >concert. She's coming to Rochester real soon and i was >debating whether to go home for it or not...i guess >the choice has been made ^_^ ...umm...susan >content...it's the same place susan is playing at in >Novemeber *happy bounce!!* > >-hi angie! can't wait to see ya in November!! > >amy -my posts usually aren't this long..really! > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > >HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org >Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com > > HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:26:01 -4000 From: "Charlie Sweeney" Subject: Tom Waits Ticket in New York available. HI all, This message from "Joe Grossman" bounced to me due to some of Bill Gate's software tricks. Those of you using Outlook Express need to create "believers@smoe.org" in your address book and make sure the box marked "send as HTML" or "Rich Text" is unchecked. Now, take it away Joe! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Apropos to nothing, it turns out I have one (1) ticket to see Tom Waits = at the Beacon Theater in NYC for this Friday, Sept. 24, which I have = discovered I cannot use. The seat is located in the orchestra, Row P, = Seat 46. It is a bit pricey (cost me $92), but if anyone is interested, = please E-mail me asap. I have also posted this message in a few other = places, so it is possible that it might be in demand. I will honor any = interest in order of E-mails. I am located in Philadelphia, and will = not be able to meet anyone in NYC, so ability to exchange ticket and = money will also have to be considered. Thanks! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just a note, I know Joe and he's legit. Charlie Sweeney (=}===# Virtual Guitarist-Something Black http://somethingblack.com http://susanwerner.com http://karensavoca.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:27:50 -0400 From: "Murphy, Steve" Subject: RE: another question or two..or so... The Grateful Dead used to have a "taping section". You'd be guaranteed a good seat about 40% back in the orchestra seating, if you brought taping equipment. There was a whole society of "tapers" exchanging tapes from various concerts. Hey - that's what we should do. Start taping and shipping copies all over the country to the less fortunate! Of course, if Susan says it's okay! Steve - -----Original Message----- From: Ron Rosen [mailto:ronsopas@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:21 PM To: A.T. Schrader Cc: Believers Subject: Re: another question or two..or so... Susan's booking agent is Fleming-Tamulevich www.flemtam.com I've never seen anyone tape a Susan show except her own people videotaping for her. That doesn't mean it's not ok. - -----Original Message-----believers@smoe.org From: A.T. Schrader To: believers@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: another question or two..or so... > >First of all, thank you for the welcome! i really feel >like this is a friendly and receptive bunch of >folks..and i would love to meet some of you at >upcoming shows (Rochester? anyone??) > >I am curious about a few things tho...i hope you don't >mind... > >I've been hearing alot about these pins. Is there a >scan to what these things look like...not that i don't >believe that they are wonderful! but i'm just >wondering what they look like. > >secondly, does anyone know susan werner's policy on >taping her shows. i know some bands are cool with it >and almost encourage it ;-), while others aren't too >keen and would rather you not...which is fine as well! >i just would like to know before i get myself in >trouble with anybody...esp susan! > >ummm...oh yes! the college group that i'm involved >with are the one's who book all the bands for the >year. this is a possiblity (with none too subtle >persuasion from me ;-) that they may be interested in >booking susan werner. is there any info that can be >had (e-mail address, phone #) for booking info? > >thank you for that great review of Christine Levin's >concert. She's coming to Rochester real soon and i was >debating whether to go home for it or not...i guess >the choice has been made ^_^ ...umm...susan >content...it's the same place susan is playing at in >Novemeber *happy bounce!!* > >-hi angie! can't wait to see ya in November!! > >amy -my posts usually aren't this long..really! > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > >HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org >Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com > > HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:39:23 -0700 From: "Ron Rosen" Subject: Re: another question or two..or so... The Dead was somewhat unique in this respect. Hot Tuna and Jefferson Starship (both offshoots of Jefferson Airplane) allow taping, but these groups have pretty much exhausted their record market. In the case of someone like Susan, who will be releasing new material for, hopefully, many years, she may not want a lot of tapes floating around. - -----Original Message----- From: Murphy, Steve To: 'Ron Rosen' ; A.T. Schrader Cc: Believers Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 6:28 PM Subject: RE: another question or two..or so... >The Grateful Dead used to have a "taping section". You'd >be guaranteed a good seat about 40% back in the orchestra >seating, if you brought taping equipment. There was a whole >society of "tapers" exchanging tapes from various concerts. >Hey - that's what we should do. Start taping and shipping >copies all over the country to the less fortunate! Of course, >if Susan says it's okay! >Steve > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ron Rosen [mailto:ronsopas@earthlink.net] >Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:21 PM >To: A.T. Schrader >Cc: Believers >Subject: Re: another question or two..or so... > > >Susan's booking agent is Fleming-Tamulevich www.flemtam.com > >I've never seen anyone tape a Susan show except her own people videotaping >for her. That doesn't mean it's not ok. > > >-----Original Message-----believers@smoe.org >From: A.T. Schrader >To: believers@smoe.org >Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 1:24 PM >Subject: another question or two..or so... > > >> >>First of all, thank you for the welcome! i really feel >>like this is a friendly and receptive bunch of >>folks..and i would love to meet some of you at >>upcoming shows (Rochester? anyone??) >> >>I am curious about a few things tho...i hope you don't >>mind... >> >>I've been hearing alot about these pins. Is there a >>scan to what these things look like...not that i don't >>believe that they are wonderful! but i'm just >>wondering what they look like. >> >>secondly, does anyone know susan werner's policy on >>taping her shows. i know some bands are cool with it >>and almost encourage it ;-), while others aren't too >>keen and would rather you not...which is fine as well! >>i just would like to know before i get myself in >>trouble with anybody...esp susan! >> >>ummm...oh yes! the college group that i'm involved >>with are the one's who book all the bands for the >>year. this is a possiblity (with none too subtle >>persuasion from me ;-) that they may be interested in >>booking susan werner. is there any info that can be >>had (e-mail address, phone #) for booking info? >> >>thank you for that great review of Christine Levin's >>concert. She's coming to Rochester real soon and i was >>debating whether to go home for it or not...i guess >>the choice has been made ^_^ ...umm...susan >>content...it's the same place susan is playing at in >>Novemeber *happy bounce!!* >> >>-hi angie! can't wait to see ya in November!! >> >>amy -my posts usually aren't this long..really! >> >> >> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com >> >>HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org >>Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com >> >> > > >HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org >Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com > HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:44:13 -0400 From: "Dennis Lovelady" Subject: Re: another question or two..or so... Hi, Amy: From: A.T. Schrader Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 1:24 PM >secondly, does anyone know susan werner's policy on >taping her shows. i know some bands are cool with it >and almost encourage it ;-), while others aren't too >keen and would rather you not...which is fine as well! >i just would like to know before i get myself in >trouble with anybody...esp susan! I tape a lot of folk concerts. My primary rule: I don't tape if I cannot get prior permission. I usually go seeking the artist before the sound check, or right after it (though they frequently "hide" after sound check). That said, Susan was quite happy to have me videotape her show at The Handlebar last year. That tape is a treasure for me. But please don't do it because I said I did. Find a way to ask her before the show. - -- Dennis Lovelady Fayetteville, GA mail: dennis@lovelady.com dennis.e.lovelady@ac.com URL: http://www.lovelady.com **NEW** ICQ: 5734860 - -- "How is it that our memory is good enough to retain the least triviality that happens to us, and yet not good enough to recollect how often we have told it to the same person?" - Duc de La Rochefoucauld HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:45:46 -4000 From: "Charlie Sweeney" Subject: Re: another question or two..or so... Hi all, Amy asked: > I am curious about a few things tho...i hope you don't > mind... > > I've been hearing alot about these pins. Is there a > scan to what these things look like...not that i don't > believe that they are wonderful! but i'm just > wondering what they look like. http://somethingblack.com/swpin.htm > secondly, does anyone know susan werner's policy on > taping her shows. i know some bands are cool with it > and almost encourage it ;-), while others aren't too > keen and would rather you not...which is fine as well! > i just would like to know before i get myself in > trouble with anybody...esp susan! Right now, I think Susan would prefer no taping. This could change, but I don't really know the ramifications vis-a-vis Susan's contract with Bottom Line Records. Taping is often regulated as part of the contract. Touring schedule is often influenced contractually as well. > ummm...oh yes! the college group that i'm involved > with are the one's who book all the bands for the > year. this is a possiblity (with none too subtle > persuasion from me ;-) that they may be interested in > booking susan werner. is there any info that can be > had (e-mail address, phone #) for booking info? Fleming Tamulevich and Associates http://www.flemtam.com 733-735 N.Main St. Ann Arbor, MI 48104 Phone: 734-995-9066 Fax: 734-662-6502 E-Mail: {HYPERLINK "form.html"}fta@pobox.com Charlie Sweeney (=}===# Virtual Guitarist-Something Black http://somethingblack.com http://susanwerner.com http://karensavoca.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:11:19 -0400 From: Katherine Rossner Subject: taping and shows At 06:39 PM 9/21/99 -0700, Ron Rosen wrote: >The Dead was somewhat unique in this respect. Hot Tuna and Jefferson >Starship (both offshoots of Jefferson Airplane) allow taping, but these >groups have pretty much exhausted their record market. It seems to vary a lot. Ellis Paul doesn't object to taping for private use, nor I think does James Keelaghan. John Wesley Harding is the greatest (in this respect at least!): according to folks on his mailing list, he'll let tapers plug into his amplifying equipment (argh! I've been studying too much and my mind is blanking on the right word), and I've seen the tape-trading section on his official web page! I wish Susan could be like that... Are any Believers planning to be at the Towne Crier (Pawling, NY) show on November 19? I think I'll be there but haven't seen it mentioned here yet. Katherine - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yit they spake hem so. - Chaucer, "Troilus and Criseyde" HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:26:00 -0400 From: "Dennis Lovelady" Subject: Re: taping and shows Hi, Katherine: From: Katherine Rossner Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 10:11 PM > let tapers plug into his amplifying equipment (argh! I've been studying too > much and my mind is blanking on the right word), and I've seen the > tape-trading section on his official web page! I wish Susan could be like > that... "Soundboard" is the word you were looking for. You're welcome. :^) Eddie From Ohio ( http://www.efohio.com ) is very much in favor of taping, will allow people to plug into the soundboard, and also has tape trades on their site. I was videoing their concert at The Handlebar, and Robbie took the camera and started running around the audience, then back up on the stage with it, giving me a view I could never otherwise have hoped to see. He did the same thing with my camera the next time I saw them. Too cool! If you get a chance to see them, I think most Susan fans would love the music and the show they put on. - -- Dennis Lovelady Fayetteville, GA mail: dennis@lovelady.com dennis.e.lovelady@ac.com URL: http://www.lovelady.com **NEW** ICQ: 5734860 - -- "Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves." - Abraham Lincoln HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ End of believers-digest V3 #203 ******************************* --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- This has been a posting from the Susan Werner believers-digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe believers-digest" in the body of the message