From: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org (believers-digest) To: believers-digest@smoe.org Subject: believers-digest V3 #60 Reply-To: believers@smoe.org Sender: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk believers-digest Tuesday, March 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 060 In Today's believer's digest: ----------------- Re: Early Susan [MansonNick@aol.com] Picks, Pins, Bumperstickers, etc. ["The Bearded One" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 20:51:34 EST From: MansonNick@aol.com Subject: Re: Early Susan I hope I don't regret sharing this. Pleasant memories from my high school years are kind of few and far between and I'm having to resist the urge to keep this one to myself. Understand that I'm not trying to exploit my acquaintance with Susan but hope her fans find some insight in the following: It was my pleasure to "engineer" the recording of Susan's covers of "Long Ago" and "The Wall" at a local piano teacher's home. It was a very amateur setup with me on the floor with my Pioneer cassette deck and her teacher's Teac reel-to-reel and a microphone we probably borrowed from the high school. I will never forget Susan screaming and jumping for joy the first time we successfully recorded her singing harmony with herself! My favorite memory though, is watching her rehearse the piano accompaniment to "The Wall". I remember her voicing frustration (or maybe just surprise) that she might have written beyond her playing ability. I think this was mostly because she couldn't just sit down and play it the way she wanted it on her first try and this was outside her previous experience at the piano. Those of you who've heard it know how beautifully "baroque" (for lack of a better word) she made the piano part. Evidently what she heard in her head didn't translate immediately to her fingers. Somehow I never ended up with a tape of the later original songs. If anyone wants to send me a copy (digitally remastered of course), let me know. I don't think I was involved in the recording of all eight, however I do remember laughing with Susan while recording "Eat the Bible for Breakfast"! Nick who is snowbound alone with the kids after a 12" snowfall. Is it girls basketball tournament time again already? In a message dated 3/1/99 11:43:18 PM Central Standard Time, chrisleonard@earthlink.net writes: << Subj: Early Susan Date: 3/1/99 11:43:18 PM Central Standard Time From: chrisleonard@earthlink.net (Chris Leonard) Sender: owner-believers@smoe.org To: believers@smoe.org I am hesitant to post this - I am much more comfortable lurking in the shadows! That may be because I haven't been able to see Susan for at least 10 years, so I definitely can't carry my weight in a discussion of recent "Susan sightings," how her hair was cut last week, or even new guitar styles that she says are "well, hard!" I also don't want to inadvertently get nominated to be "List Historian" by virtue of having known Susan "way back when." In fact, I'm betting there are other "lurkers" on the list who knew Susan before I met her, which was at a roller skating rink (!) in Cedar Rapids, Iowa in either late 1981 or early 1982 (any takers? and Susan, if you're there, remember Bob Dye?). In other words, I'm not trying to get into any one-upmanship here... so please, just let me de-cloak, put in my 0.02 worth, and then slip back into the shadows ... Having said all that, I thought I would surface just long enough to contribute to the what-did-Susan-play-way-back-when thread. I know Charles from Milwaukee mentioned having a tape of Susan's music from "pre-1984". If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was recorded in December 1982 and is a collection of 8 songs, all "religious in nature" as Charles indicated, and all of which she wrote herself. However, I also have another tape from May 1982 which I seem to remember being the first time she put effort into recording herself solo and then letting others hear the results. The tape contains just two songs - she covers "Long Ago and Far Away" (by James Taylor?) and "The Wall" (by Kansas, from Leftoverture). Both are very well-done, of course - Susan's talent was impressive and moving, even then. So did she do her own music back in high school? As Charles said: yes. And did she do covers? Again, yes. I think she admired James Taylor quite a bit. I specifically remember her saying that it would be great to some day have a group of loyal fans like his (like Believers?) who connected with her music similar to the way JT's fans relate to his music. I also remember her having an appreciation for the music of Phil Keaggy, a Christian singer and songwriter who is a great, great, uh, great guitarist. I think she let me sing along once while she played his song "Spend My Life With You" in the hallway at West Delaware High School. There's my brush with fame and fortune. Susan, if you ever find your way back to Tampa Bay for a concert, maybe you could cover "Full Circle"? Your concerts are just as rare down here as Keaggy's! I wish I could remember other Early Susan Tidbits that would be appropriate to post ... but I'm feeling the urge to run back to the shadows and hope that I haven't bored everybody too badly. Besides, I'm getting too old to remember that far back, you know. How is it that I'm getting older but she's not? We were the same age once... [grin] Seriously, I just thought people might want to know about the JT and Kansas covers in particular. Since they were among her very first efforts at recording, it's interesting to know what she chose to record. I know I had fun scrounging around trying to find the tape - can you believe what a pack-rat I am to still have it around at all? Re-cloaking, Chris HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (rly-zc05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.5]) by air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 00:43:18 -0500 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA19330; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA27749; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id AAA18966; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:42:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id AAA18953 for believers-outgoing; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id AAA18948 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:41:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from cleonard_home (1Cust137.tnt2.clearwater.fl.da.uu.net [153.37.190.137]) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA06817 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:41:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <003901be646e$bd6b7970$42991e26@cleonard_home> From: "Chris Leonard" To: Subject: Early Susan Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:37:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-believers@smoe.org Precedence: bulk >> HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:21:44 -0500 From: "The Bearded One" Subject: Picks, Pins, Bumperstickers, etc. Hi all, Been quiet out here. Just to let evveryone know, we are making steady progress on the picks, pins, bumperstickers, etc.. Mention of a SW logo has been made. Does anyone have such a thing? Can you send me a copy? Any other art work that folks might like to contribute would be welcome. Charlie: Does this logo exist? Is it OK to use? I hope no one will accuse me of heresy, but I have to tell you: See Cry Cry Cry if you get a chance. Susan has more talent and a greater range but this is one sweet show. Get the CD first and you will enjoy it even more (but only after you have purchased all of Susan's CD and brought at least 20 people to her shows). Forgive me Susan, for I have sinned. Still believing, "The Still Bearded One" HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 22:56:27 -0500 From: cinders blue Subject: Re: Picks, Pins, Bumperstickers, etc. MC 900 Ft The Bearded One rapped: >I hope no one will accuse me of heresy, but I have to tell you: See Cry >Cry Cry if you get a chance. Susan has more talent and a greater range >but this is one sweet show. Get the CD first and you will enjoy it even >more (but only after you have purchased all of Susan's CD and brought at >least 20 people to her shows). no heresy here. while dar williams and lucy kaplansky are both okay, richard shindell is the only other folkie singer/songwriter, besides susan, who doesn't set off my annoymeter. i think he's gotten lazy lately -- not writing many new songs, performing the same sets from night to night, playing with the god-awful billy masters, and, frankly, i'm not that thrilled by the cry3 project -- but when he's on, he's nigh godhead. woj HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ End of believers-digest V3 #60 ****************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- This has been a posting from the Susan Werner believers-digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe believers-digest" in the body of the message