From: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org (believers-digest) To: believers-digest@smoe.org Subject: believers-digest V3 #54 Reply-To: believers@smoe.org Sender: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk believers-digest Sunday, February 28 1999 Volume 03 : Number 054 In Today's believer's digest: ----------------- Re: believers-digest V3 #53 [mbarker@groton.org (Margaret Barker)] introductions [Steve I ] epilogue [Steve I ] Re: elder statesman ["The Bearded One" ] Re: pins etc. ["The Bearded One" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:20:04 -0500 From: mbarker@groton.org (Margaret Barker) Subject: Re: believers-digest V3 #53 Hello Listers, I'm chiming in on the anti "Sorry about Susan" campaign because of it's apologetic tone. While WE know what it means, and while the main purpose of the pin is to ID one another, it will (we hope) also be a conversation starter, and I'd rather have a positive one. "I Still Believe" is positive, but we use "BELIEVE" business all over the place (i.e. our list, calling ourselves believers, etc.). I'm also reluctant to embrace "I Still Believe" as the slogan for the pin, not because I don't love the song, because I do, and not because I don't relate to it in a religious way, because I do, but because I think it sounds TOO religious. So, I'd like to officially vote for Susan's smirk with the web address. Could we possibly tap into a lyric from a different Werner hit? I'm enjoying the "elder statesman" contest, even though I know for certain I could never win. Could we run a "younger statesman" contest, too? There, I might have a chance. I'll toss my name in the hat for that one. Any other believers who are also 22? (Yes, that's me. The youngster.) Or younger? Just goes to show what WIDE appeal our Susan has. And in case I've never introduced myself, I'm Margaret, and I teach English and Drama and direct high school plays. (Right now, anyway.) AND PEGGY CALLED ME ADORABLE!!! Thank you Peggy. You are, too. You made my dreary day wonderful yesterday -- plus I can still hear your laugh, esp. re: the ear-rubbing, chest-patting thing Susan riffed about at 4 Corners! See you all soon -- Nashua? Club Passim? Margaret, who's currently standing in her own way, and MUST go grade papers. NOW. HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:35:16 -0500 From: Steve I Subject: introductions Hey Believers... this is my first post to the list. I've been a fan of Susan's for a while but I wasn't compelled to join the list until I finally saw her play live for the first time in Toronto last weekend. I don't think anyone posted about her Sunday show in Toronto yet so I'll copy in my post about it to the ecto list (ectofolk can skip the rest of the email) and then I'll send an epilogue in a separate post. =========== I'd like to thank everyone who's been recommending Susan Werner (and especially to Jeff W for getting me one of her CDs), I finally got to see her play this weekend (twice!) and was MUCH impressed. She's even more powerful live than on CD, and I liked the CD (the Live at Tin Angel one) quite a lot. Ah what the heck, might as well do a mini review while I'm posting. I saw a great show with Tory Cassis, Sarah Slean, Susan Werner, and Moxy Fruvous yesterday, which I'm sure will inspire some impassioned jealousy in at least a few ectophiles here. Sarah played with just her cellist, the talented Kevin Fox, who is much in demand these days with ectophilic artists from the Toronto area. She played a few tortured-heart type songs (at least one of which should appear on the upcoming CD) and then launched into Me and Jerome and Universe. There was an annoying level of talking among the Fruheads near the back where I was standing, but there was also a huge group of them standing mesmerized at the front. Susan came on by herself and played a rocking set, in stark contrast to the more subdued acoustic set she played at an instore performance I attended the day before. I'd been looking forward to seeing her since getting her live CD in the summer and I wasn't disappointed. She brought the house down with that great hidden track on the _Time Between Trains_ CD. Is that her own song, does anybody know? It has a very musical theatre kind of feel, Sondheim or Gershwin-esque I guess. And it's hilarious! I was ready to leave at that point since I had a ton of papers to mark and I'd already gotten my fill of Moxy the night before, but a friend let me in on a little secret that both Sarah and Susan would be invited up on stage to play with Moxy in the middle of their set. Sure enough, before too long they called up Sarah and they did a great version of "Angel" with Sarah doing the lead vox and the moxy guys lending instrumental support and harmony vocals. Sarah said later on that they practiced for about 2 seconds before the show. Amazing. Not long after, they called up Susan and they did a great version of "Summertime" and then a priceless medley of pop songs from the 80's and 90's and including an audience singalong of "It's a Small World". As we were leaving I ran into Susan and her entourage, and she impressed me by remembering my name from speaking with her briefly the day before at the instore performance (we'd chatted about seven string guitars and the ecto-infamous karaoke bar incident). Anyway to sum up Susan bowled me over with her vocal talent and guitar playing, her stage presence, and friendliness. It was such a pleasure to finally see her play. The ectosynchronicity of her appearing on the same bill as one of the artists I've been championing on ecto for the last couple of years just blows me away. Anyway many thanks to the folks who've been recommending Susan, if I wasn't a total convert from her CD alone, I certainly was after seeing her live. HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:38:38 -0500 From: Steve I Subject: epilogue So the last post was about Moxy and Susan's shows in Toronto last week. Here's a bit of an epilogue, (also lifted from one of my posts to ecto), in which I ran into Jian from Moxy Fruvous at Veda Hille's show. ============ I ran into Jian from Moxy Fruvous there, and he told me he could always tell when a show was going to be a good one because I would be there. I told him that was a 2-way street. Seriously though we must have similar tastes in music because I run into him at shows all the time. Anyway we chatted a bit about Susan Werner, who'd opened for Moxy last week (I reviewed their show in an ecto post last week). It rapidly became apparent that he was just as awed by Susan's incredible performance as I was. He said that he didn't want to seem conceited but that it was the first time that one of their opening acts was able to stand up to them, meaning that Susan totally captured the crowd, which by the end of her set was cheering for Susan with the same enthusiasm that they did for Moxy Fruvous, which is an especially amazing thing considering that this was a die-hard Fru-head crowd which had travelled to Toronto from all over North America for the a fan convention. (I found their overwhelming devotion both charming and somewhat frightening, but I digress). Then when Moxy invited her up to the stage to jam with them, it was clear that the Moxy uber-fans were cheering just as much for her as they were for Moxy. Anyway Jian was effusive in his praise for her, and said he hoped they could set up a tour with her in the near future. Moxy and Susan fans beware... they're both pretty volatile live performers and when you put them together, they're liable to react quite explosively! The Demolition tour may be coming soon to a venue near you... Steve HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 01:29:29 -0500 From: "The Bearded One" Subject: Re: elder statesman On 2/27/1999 3:40 AM believers-digest/owner-believers-digest@smoe.org sent: >At the risk of losing friends, I'll claim to be the elder statesman >here...I'll be 61 in June! > >Take care, all. > >Jim Hey Jim, You certainly got me beat by a couple of decades. And I didn't meet any "believers" older than I am at 4 Corners (that ought to be good for a few brownie points (-:). There certainly were some older than you in the audience though. It's great that her music appeals across the generations. Keep believing, "The Bearded One" HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 02:08:11 -0500 From: "The Bearded One" Subject: Re: pins etc. This is a last reminder to share your thoughts on pins, bumper stickers etc... Also, if your are artistically inclined and want to take a stab at it go for it. We are still working on the details so I can't give you any size info at this point but 2 1/4" seems to be a standard round button size. Caricatures would be helpful. Also any pictures you have that might be good either to help some one do a caricature or a photo that might be used as is would be great. How much money do you want to spend? A buck a button/bumper sticker? Or more for something nicer (eg. a guitar pick or red Parker Fly (that's that red electric guitar right?))? Keep believing, "The Bearded One" HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ End of believers-digest V3 #54 ****************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- This has been a posting from the Susan Werner believers-digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe believers-digest" in the body of the message