From: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org (believers-digest) To: believers-digest@smoe.org Subject: believers-digest V3 #27 Reply-To: believers@smoe.org Sender: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk believers-digest Sunday, January 31 1999 Volume 03 : Number 027 In Today's believer's digest: ----------------- letter to Susan [PBCoustic@aol.com] post from Tom Pelletier ["Charlie Sweeney" ] faves [Leslie Dreyer Kalra ] Re: The Bearded One: favourites & reasons ["P Simon" ] Re: Garden [PBCoustic@aol.com] Re:Stereotypes vs. real life [PBCoustic@aol.com] faves (more) [Leslie Dreyer Kalra ] Re: faves (more) [Jean Katherine Rossner ] In Glee!!! [Bodyworks4@aol.com] favourites [Ronaathome@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 09:30:00 EST From: PBCoustic@aol.com Subject: letter to Susan Say, to where would one address a letter to get directly to Susan? A friend of mine was deeply affected (in a POSITIVE way) by one of her concerts, and wanted to write and tell her about it... thanks! Paul HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 09:57:16 -4000 From: "Charlie Sweeney" Subject: post from Tom Pelletier From the listowner, Sorry, I'm handling a few extra list chores this week, and inadvertently attempted to forward this mail to the list using the password for the dar-list, or the Karen list, Or the humor list, well, you get the picture, Anyway here is a forwarded post bounced to me. ` ````~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>Nobody seems to love "Bring Round the Boat" as much as I do! I >>guess that suproses me. I had to add that. No offense, but I strongly DISlike that song. I wish it weren't on the CD. Unlike the rest of Susan's songs, it strikes me as completely lacking in subtlety. And quite sexist. Or am I missing something? Tom Pelletier 1/30/99 tpell@compuserve.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:16:19 -0500 (EST) From: Leslie Dreyer Kalra Subject: faves I have to register my votes for favorites, now that I've seen so many that surprised me (like Bring Round the Boat, which I don't care for). There are a couple that are perpetual favorites, and others that come and go with my moods. The one that stays with me always is "My Mother's Garden". Now there's one I'm surprised I haven't seen on other people's lists. I sing it to my children often, and it's the kind of childhood I hope to give them. Maybe that's why it's so important to me -- that time of my life. I heard somewhere that Susan's mom heard her perform for the first time at The Birchmere a couple of years ago, and that song was a special moment for both. Others that stay with me: St. Mary's (of course!) for the poetry, Soul's Not at War for the state of mind, Tappan Zee for the naughtiness of it (gotta wonder, does she have a fling and get married anyway, or call off the wedding?), Petaluma Afternoons for the sensuality of it (and because I like to visit California, too), Society Ball for the times when I wish I had become a musician. And others that go with my moods: Montgomery Street, when I'm in a pensive, jazz frame of mind, No One Here But Me, when I'm feeling like I've accomplished something, Ain't I Lonely, when my self-esteem is in a slump, Snow White for romantic moods. There are a (*very*) few that I don't like, but I won't go into those. Most of the obvious ones that aren't currently on my faves list will come back around eventually -- it's a cyclic thing. Okay, I've bored you long enough. I should be working anyway... Leslie lbd@techiesinc.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 08:15:27 PST From: "P Simon" Subject: Re: The Bearded One: favourites & reasons OK Folks ... long post, but I've always wanted to respond to the Bearded One. From Midwestern Saturday Night: *Born A Little Late - because I was 3 years old in 1969 and I love that line "way big into raisins at the time". *Rubber Glove Blues - because the first time I heard it we were driving in New England it just seemed to hit at an appropriate time. We both just listened and smiled and laughed (plus, he loves the Blues). *Uncle John - it just makes sense. From Live at The Tin Angel: (I don't have this but have heard it and will pick it up at Four corners in less than three weeks) *La Vie En Rose - just love it ... "I can hear you listening to that crazy Mexican Singer" (semi-obscure movie reference there). From Last Of The Good Straight Girls: *Still Believe - (from this cd as opposed to MSN because here is where I heard it first) because I do still believe. *St. Mary's of Regret - because when I first heard it I thought it was "passions always HAVE impossibilities" and I cried. When I read that it was "HALF", I took a breath and held onto some hope. It is simply a beautiful song. *No One Here But Me - because in the end we alone are responsible for our own happiness. I lump this one with Lullabye For One (MSN) and Standing In My Own Way (TBT) in my "get hold of yourself girl and smarten up" category. *Yes To You (Tappan Zee) - because it's one of the first songs I heard live and she did the "Dear Miss Manners" thing and I think I nearly had a stroke from laughing. *Something So Right - because I still believe. From Time Between Trains: *Old Mistake - because I may be his and he may be my St.Mary's Regret but again I still believe and I love the line "most famous kisses on my livingroom floor". *Petaluma Afternoons - especially this January in southern Ontario. I can almost feel the serotonin flowing. *Standing In My Own Way - because of the afore mentioned and I love the pipes. *Vincent - because the first time I heard it was on my discman and I was on a plane circling Toronto waiting to land. We had come out of a brief lightning storm and out into a starry starry night and that was all I could see and I just kept playing Vincent over and over again (just one of those moments). *Movie Of My Life - because it's just great and, again, we were in the car and at the end of the song rewound and replayed (very loudly) the "Brilliant"/"Genius" part and at that point we decided to adore Susan's music forever. From ones I've only heard live: *Got To See The Body - because it's one of the first songs I ever heard her sing and the stalking bit was too funny "there's more than one blue Subaru in Maine, ya know". (and of course the Bonneville/Sportsman Grill rhyme) *This Magic Moment - because she did it and the accompanying "just kiss him" bit the first time I ever heard her (with an air show going on overhead) and although I didn't take her up on the challenge (right then and there), I did appreciate the shove in the right direction. - -- Peggy (sorry again about the length but I felt I needed to say it) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 09:54:54 -0800 From: "Ron Rosen" Subject: Bring 'Round the Boat >>Nobody seems to love "Bring Round the Boat" as much as I do! I >>guess that suproses me. I had to add that. >No offense, but I strongly DISlike that song. I wish it weren't on the CD. >Unlike the rest of Susan's songs, it strikes me as completely lacking in >subtlety. And quite sexist. Or am I missing something? >Tom Pelletier 1/30/99 It's not my favorite song, but it's pretty cool jazz and it kind of grows on me. I don't think it's sexist. It's an angry song about women who've been burned by men, but I don't think that the expression of that emotion is sexist. It's also an interesting sexual image, don't you think? Ron (1st Nashville fan 'though he lives in LA) HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:48:26 EST From: PBCoustic@aol.com Subject: Re: Garden In a message dated 1/30/99 10:16:26 AM Central Standard Time, lbd@techiesinc.com writes: << The one that stays with me always is "My Mother's Garden". >> I agree, actually... I didn't include it on my "short list", but it's a great mental picture of childhood pleasures... Paul HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:00:27 EST From: PBCoustic@aol.com Subject: Re:Stereotypes vs. real life Well, Susan herself described it during the World Cafe interview as how women talk at the bar together when they just go, "Grrrrr......... MEN!!!!" (Like men don't have the same conversations???? "Can't live with 'em, and ya can't live with 'em..." ) The first verse is apparently a true-life situation a friend of hers experienced, who told Susan that "...she felt like such a cliche..." Paul HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:01:07 -0500 (EST) From: Leslie Dreyer Kalra Subject: faves (more) I did forget to mention among my faves all of Susan's funny songs. I truly do wish she'd do a comedy album, or at least another album with *some* funny songs on it. They must not be marketable, though, since the stuff she's recorded on her two "big" albums has been fairly mainstream (as mainstream as she gets). It seems a shame that she has to be pigeonholed in order to succeed... What we need is a special "Believers' Edition" of an album -- made just for us! After all, we know better than those silly producers which of her songs should be recorded, right?? Guess I'll go back to "Tin Angel" for my comedy fix... Leslie lbd@techiesinc.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:31:58 -0800 From: Jean Katherine Rossner Subject: Re: faves (more) At 04:01 PM 1/30/99 -0500, Leslie Dreyer Kalra wrote: >I did forget to mention among my faves all of Susan's >funny songs. I truly do wish she'd do a comedy album, >or at least another album with *some* funny songs on it. Yes! I only discovered Susan in September (bought TBT on a recommendation, saw her in concert a week later) so I probably haven't heard much...but I love "Rubber Glove Blues" (played it for a family friend who'd asked me years ago for suggestions on making the idea of safe sex more available to teens) and "Movie of My Life" and...well, I seem to remember hearing several more at the September concert, but they're not on my albums. >What we need is a special "Believers' Edition" of an album -- >made just for us! After all, we know better than those silly >producers which of her songs should be recorded, right?? We do, at least, know which we like (though there seems to be considerable variety of opinion on recordings, as in the "faves" thread). But I think this is a great idea, if it could be done. John Wesley Harding is one example of what I'm thinking: he regularly puts out little independent CDs of stuff that didn't go onto the "regular" albums, and sells them at concerts and through the fan club. Anybody close enough to Susan: please suggest this to her? Katherine - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yit they spake hem so. - Chaucer, "Troilus and Criseyde" HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:15:11 EST From: Bodyworks4@aol.com Subject: In Glee!!! I am overjoyed that Susan will be playing in New Louden, NH Feb. I am going to both shows, and then down to the show in Northampton on Fri. night. Anyone on the list that will be at either one, I welcome you to introduce yourself to me. Any fan of Susan's....... well, you know. I have to go and wait for a train. Could be a long time.... Barbara HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:58:51 EST From: Ronaathome@aol.com Subject: favourites Hi believers, In one set of believers post there was IndigoAniD with Bring Round the Boat as her favourite and Tom with it as the one he dislikes ......and the more everyone tells of their favourites (sorry about the olde English spelling there!) and their reasons, the more I feel that there are few, very few, singer-songwriters who have quite this wealth of life experiences and emotions encapsulated on 4 CDs. But that's Susan. ...listen as the music plays.....and the serotonin flows in....in England in January, Rona HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at songs.com ------------------------------ End of believers-digest V3 #27 ****************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- This has been a posting from the Susan Werner believers-digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe believers-digest" in the body of the message