From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V10 #145 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Tuesday, June 14 2005 Volume 10 : Number 145 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: OT: WWJP? (What would Jesus play) ["Barry" ] Fw: Back to the OT topic of Timing pregnancy perfectly ["Steve Richardson] Re: WWJP? (What would Jesus play) ["Lonnie Gunter" ] RE: Timing pregnancy perfectly ["Steve O'Hearn" ] Re: sprouting chilluns [ZZsaZZsa@aol.com] Re: Timing pregnancy perfectly [Bill Roberts ] Re: Timing pregnancy perfectly [Bill Roberts ] RE: Timing pregnancy perfectly [Bill Roberts ] RE: Timing pregnancy perfectly [j w ] Something to tease our brains... - some answers... ["Desianto F. W." ] RE: Atlanta show pictures ["Steve O'Hearn" ] Re: Atlanta show pictures [J3SITE@aol.com] re: OT wwjplay [Leslie Osborn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:58:27 -0500 From: "Barry" Subject: Re: OT: WWJP? (What would Jesus play) > disciples, only I doubt Peter ever yelled, "You the man!" Yeah, he would have no problem with the gallery at all. If someone yelled at him, he'd just smite them down or something. > Who would caddy for him? Judas. He'd carry the golf bag, towels, refreshments, golf cart, umbrella, and anything else Jesus could imagine. Maybe next time he'll think twice before betraying Jesus. Barry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:35:34 -0700 From: "Steve Richardson" Subject: Fw: Back to the OT topic of Timing pregnancy perfectly I appreciate your comments and I'll give the whole subject some further thought...didn't mean to be offensive, for what it's worth. Steve R. > > > No, what you propose isn't realistic. > > The average time it takes a couple to conceive is one year. It isn't > like, > "let's go off the pill, do the hibbity-bibbity and 'TA-DA' be pregnant." > > Also, a woman shouldn't have to try to "time her pregnancy" around her > occupation...no matter what she does or how much she is paid. Period. > > I find your comments offensive. > -Sheryl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:24:02 -0400 From: "Lonnie Gunter" Subject: Re: WWJP? (What would Jesus play) 18 holes... 18 shots.... what is this about a second hit being necessary? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 11:55 PM Subject: OT: WWJP? (What would Jesus play) > > > More importantly, if Jesus returned and chose to play > > professinal sports, what would he play? > > My first guess is golf. He seems like a pretty laid back guy who can deal > with stress, so I'm going with the PGA tour. If he hit a water hazard his > ball would probably just bounce off of it, if it can "walk" on water too. > Or he'd just part it like the Red Sea and play through without a penalty > shot. > > My next guess would be some sort of water sport, see the above comments. > > Barry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:31:56 -0400 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: Timing pregnancy perfectly Kidding about what? The selection of 911 for the emergency response number? I thought you were being serious, so thanks for the clarification if that's what you meant. And fear not - it's not like I was about to go out and declare myself church pastor of Our Lady Of The Holy Emergency Response Number. I'm always open to new and interesting facts, but not dumb enough to blindly believe any random email without a little independent confirmation - chalk that up to the journalist in me. Always open minded but always a skeptic. Makes for a lot of work on my part! The "makes you wonder" comment was more about the Sep 11 birthday of Christ theory, not about the emergency response number. I'd forgotten about that old alternative date, and hadn't made the mental connection to the WTC/DC attacks. That possible connection is very interesting. I'd always assumed the dates were selected as an "emergency wake-up call" sort of message. But perhaps not. More likely a connection to this alternative - and possibly more historically accurate - birthday of Christ. Just don't confuse "wonder" with "rock solid fall-on-your-sword conviction". I wonder about a lot of things. I'm convinced of only a few. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of j w > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 8:39 PM > To: basia@smoe.org > Subject: RE: Timing pregnancy perfectly > > > > Ok, you know I was kidding, right? And what exactly > would it make you wonder even if it was true? > > --- Steve O'Hearn wrote: > > > > > VERY interesting. Makes you wonder about the 2001 > > attacks on the WTC and > > DC. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-basia@smoe.org > > [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of j w > > > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 7:30 PM > > > To: basia@smoe.org > > > Subject: Re: Timing pregnancy perfectly > > > > > > > > > > > > That's actually why the number for emergency calls > > is > > > 911 in the U.S. The originator of the system > > thought > > > it was a nice bit of symbolism, using the savior > > of > > > mankind's birthday as the number. > > > > > > --- Barry wrote: > > > > Some people believe that Jesus wasn't born on > > > > Christmas Day. In fact, they > > > > believe he was born on September 11th. Yes, > > 9/11. > > > > This is something that > > > > has been bounced around for a long time, long > > before > > > > "9/11" came to mean > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:32:00 -0400 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: Timing pregnancy perfectly Not to split hairs, but if All Saint's does turn out to be a reaction to Samhain, isn't it still possible - and likely - that Halloween was still just a reaction to All Saint's Day? I mean, isn't Halloween supposed to be the last hurrah of demons before the Saints are honored on November 1st? Sort of an inverse of Mardi Gras with a sinister twist, underneath it all. Either way - I'm guessing paganism predates Christianity in general. I could be wrong about that. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Barry > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:01 PM > To: basia@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Timing pregnancy perfectly > > > > > Very true. And it goes both ways. Halloween, for instance, > started as a > > pagan reaction to November 1, which is All Saint's Day, an old Christian > > holiday, or "holy day." > > I'm not sure that's entirely true. Meaning I'm not sure which > came first. > It is believed that Nov 1st was the first day of the year on the > old Celtic > calendar. If you type in "Samhain" on Google you'll get a lot of > information on the Celtic and Pagan celebrations. I have a feeling that > they predated All Saints Day, but I can't say for sure. > > It's celebrated as a time of rebirth and contemplation, and marks the > changing of a quarter. I could go into more depth, but I'll save > those who > don't really care. ;) > > Barry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:34:37 EDT From: ZZsaZZsa@aol.com Subject: Re: sprouting chilluns In a message dated 6/12/2005 6:44:20 PM Central Daylight Time, marzenie_99@yahoo.com writes: My thought on this disagreement (I love you all for being so civil, BTW) is that women have a lot of BS regarding pregnancy thrown at them by the more unenlightened men of the world. So when a seemingly innocent comment like the timing one is thrown out there, it can get our hackles up. Or so that is with my hackles. ;-) Because I kind of had the same reaction Sheryl had. Even if it's spoken by one of our many modern, sensitive men on the smoe list. ;-) I'm realizing that there really seems to be no way to time it perfectly, because the minute you say, yeah, let's start at x time, then something else will happen to form a blockade. Finally you want to just throw the calendar in disgust and go to it already. Sometimes you have to say, you know, this step in life is more important for now than a mere job, and maybe she did. Or didn't. Barry said it best, it's not our biz. ;-) - -- Leslie O. Thanks, I was trying to be civil, but some things *do* ruffle my feathers! Well said. - -Sheryl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:50:11 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: Timing pregnancy perfectly Originally, Dec. 25th was the Festival of Saturnalia. When the Holy Roman Empire was incorporating cultures with various traditions, they revampled them with Christian themes. Quoting Barry : > > > I can think of one example. Mary timed Jesus' birth > > to fall right on Christmas day. > > That got me thinking. This could stir all sorts of debate, but it's just a > comment. Don't take it as gospel (so to speak), just something that some > experts believe. > > Some people believe that Jesus wasn't born on Christmas Day. In fact, they > believe he was born on September 11th. Yes, 9/11. This is something that > has been bounced around for a long time, long before "9/11" came to mean > something. > > If that is true, then he was conceived around December 25th, which I believe > > those same scholars believe. I've seen good evidence to support it but I > don't think there's anything definitive. > > Just something to consider. > > Barry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:56:18 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: Timing pregnancy perfectly Considering how expensive it is to raise children, that's pretty stupid. Quoting "" : > > I'm gonna throw in my useless two cents worth here. I worked as an assistant > > manager for Toys-R-Us for several years, in the early 90's. I blame Toys for > > the fact that I have little hair left. Anyway, three - THREE - Christmas > seasons in a row a female manager was pregnant and missed the most important > 6 > weeks of the year. Not only did that mean that the other managers had to > pick > up the slack, but the pregnant managers also shared in the bonus. We did all > > the work and yet they shared the spoils. That always bugged me, but more so > > after one admitted to trying very hard to conceive in February, so she > wouldn't have to work in December. > > Rant over. > > Jim P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:05:36 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: RE: Timing pregnancy perfectly Fertility and resurrection? I don't see the connection. If you look at the history of the word "Easter" you will see it comes from "Ishtar". The fertility festival was a Friday to Sunday affair. Since it was close to the time of year Christ died, it was changed to celebrate that. If you look at the Bible closely, you will see that it says Christ was dead three days and three nights and AFTER three days he would rise again. That doesn't jive with Friday afternoon to Sunday morning. There is a easy answer to this, but I don't want to bore anyone not interested in knowing. Quoting Steve O'Hearn : > > Which is why bunnies and eggs - all associated with signs of fertility - > were connected with Easter celebrations - which recognizes the resurrection > of Christ. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:06:47 -0700 (PDT) From: j w Subject: RE: Timing pregnancy perfectly Yes, I was kidding about the 911 system. Even if Jesus was born on 9/11, a fact that is almost certainly impossible to substantiate given the record keeping of the time, it would still represent nothing but an odd coincidence. - --- Steve O'Hearn wrote: > > Kidding about what? The selection of 911 for the > emergency response > number? I thought you were being serious, so thanks > for the clarification > if that's what you meant. And fear not - it's not > like I was about to go > out and declare myself church pastor of Our Lady Of > The Holy Emergency > Response Number. I'm always open to new and > interesting facts, but not dumb > enough to blindly believe any random email without a > little independent > confirmation - chalk that up to the journalist in > me. Always open minded > but always a skeptic. Makes for a lot of work on my > part! > > The "makes you wonder" comment was more about the > Sep 11 birthday of Christ > theory, not about the emergency response number. > I'd forgotten about that > old alternative date, and hadn't made the mental > connection to the WTC/DC > attacks. That possible connection is very > interesting. I'd always assumed > the dates were selected as an "emergency wake-up > call" sort of message. But > perhaps not. More likely a connection to this > alternative - and possibly > more historically accurate - birthday of Christ. > > Just don't confuse "wonder" with "rock solid > fall-on-your-sword conviction". > I wonder about a lot of things. I'm convinced of > only a few. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-basia@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of j w > > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 8:39 PM > > To: basia@smoe.org > > Subject: RE: Timing pregnancy perfectly > > > > > > > > Ok, you know I was kidding, right? And what > exactly > > would it make you wonder even if it was true? > > > > --- Steve O'Hearn wrote: > > > > > > > > VERY interesting. Makes you wonder about the > 2001 > > > attacks on the WTC and > > > DC. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-basia@smoe.org > > > [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of j w > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 7:30 PM > > > > To: basia@smoe.org > > > > Subject: Re: Timing pregnancy perfectly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's actually why the number for emergency > calls > > > is > > > > 911 in the U.S. The originator of the system > > > thought > > > > it was a nice bit of symbolism, using the > savior > > > of > > > > mankind's birthday as the number. > > > > > > > > --- Barry wrote: > > > > > Some people believe that Jesus wasn't born > on > > > > > Christmas Day. In fact, they > > > > > believe he was born on September 11th. Yes, > > > 9/11. > > > > > This is something that > > > > > has been bounced around for a long time, > long > > > before > > > > > "9/11" came to mean > > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do > we. > > > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty > viruses. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:14:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Desianto F. W." Subject: Something to tease our brains... - some answers... Hello all, After talking about vomitting and counting pregnancy - which, IMHO, vomitting can be the first symptom of pregnancy so maybe we'll talk about delivering baby later... :-) - I'd like to try to answer the questions that I made days ago. A. IF IT WILL BE A MATT BIANCO ALBUM: 1. How many songs will be in it? - - Well, normally there would be 10 songs or so. 16 would be better but I think it would need more time to make them all. 2. What color will the cover be? - - Any colors between black and white, and of course there will be black and white. 3. What will the album title be? - - I don't know. Ask Danny. But possibly one of the song titles or a line of a song in the album. 4. How many songs will Basia write? - - Maybe 33% to 60% of all contents... 5. How many songs will Danny write? - - 33% - 60%, same as Basia. 6. How many songs will Mark Reilly write? - - 33% - 60%, who knows Mark has hidden talents in writing lyrics.... 7. If they need some backing vocals, will Ewa Trzetrzelewska be in it? - - If she has the time and no problem with the group, probably yes. 8. Who will be mentioned in the credit list? - - Of course family, friends, the manager, musicians, studio people, and the record company. Don't you dare to think more than that. 9. When will it be released? - - Anytime in the future...... (2006, maybe....) 10. How much will the price be? - - Afordable.... :-) B. IF IT WILL BE BASIA'S SOLO ALBUM: 1. Will it be one album or two? - - It could be one, it could be two,.... 2. How many songs in it (or each if two)? - - 10 is the realistic number. 3. What will the album title(s) be? - - Ask Basia! But if I'm allowed to say my opinion, I'd like to propose: "Precious Time, Precious Moments, And Precious Love" since everything related to Basia, IMHO, is time and love. 4. What color(s) will the cover(s) be? - - Any colors between black and white, and of course there will be black and white. 5. How many songs will Basia write? - - Possibly 90%, even more. 6. How many songs will Danny write? - - Right now Danny should be happy with no more than 10%. 7. How many songs will other songwriter(s) write? - - Maybe one, maybe 2, but I believe it would be no more than 3. 8. If Basia will sing one song of Antonio Carlos Jobim, what song will it be? - - I don't know much about Jobim's work but Desafinado could be the good choice. 9. Will Ewa Trzetrzelewska sing for the backing vocal? - - It would be interesting if she's in it/them. 10. Who will be mentioned in the credit list? - - Of course family, friends, the manager, musicians, studio people, and the record company. Don't you dare to think more than that. 11. When will it (they) be released? - - Anytime in the future.... let's hope sooner but I'll leave it to Basia. 12. How much will the price(s) be? - - Afordable.... don't worry of getting too expensive..., so somebody here would sacrifice his house, giving blood, or even selling his/her organs in order to buy her latest album(s). Well, that's all from me. I hope the answers really could tease our brains. But if they couldn't, I'd be happy to keep them only in my mind. Czesc, Desianto F. W. "Naughty but not wild...." (1994) - Desianto F. W. __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:56:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Something to tease our brains... - some answers... Um, wow, that's impressive Desi! Whew! I'm .... speecheless for once! - -- Leslie O. "Eating is murder!" -- Futurama episode, "The Problem with Popplers" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:00:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Desianto F. W." Subject: Re: WWJP? (What would Jesus play) This reminds me to a reflection, written by a pastor. Here is the translation. ********************************* "JESUS GOES TO A SOCCER MATCH" - ------------------------------ - ---by Anthony De Mello S.J.--- Jesus Christ said that He never watched a soccer match before. So, we, I and my friends, take Him to a soccer match. A serious match is still going on between the Protestant group againsts the Catholic group. The Catholic scores the goal first. Jesus jumps hilariously, cheers, and throws His cap up in the air. Later, the Protestant scores one point. Again, Jesus jumps hilariously, cheers, and throws His cap as high as possible. This thing really makes the man, who sits behind us, confused. He pats Jesus's shoulder and asks, "Whose side are you on?" "Me?" Jesus replied; at that time He enjoys the match very much. "Oh, I don't take side. I just enjoy this game." The man looks at his friend and mocks at Jesus, "Atheis!" When we go home, we tell Jesus about the situations of the religions in this world nowadays. "Religious people are odd, Jesus," we said. "They always think that God is on their side and against other people who are on the other side." Jesus nods, agrees. "That's why I don't support any religions; I support the people," He said. "People are much more important than religions; humans are much more important than the Sabbath day. "Jesus, please be careful with Your words," said one of us anxiously. "You had ever been crucified just because You had ever said that kind of words." "Yes, and even it was done by the people who said that they were religious," said Jesus with a disappointed smile..... ********************************* That's all. I apologize if this doesn't suit your heart. Czesc, Desianto F. W. ================================================== - --- Lonnie Gunter wrote: > > 18 holes... 18 shots.... what is this about a second hit being > necessary? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 11:55 PM > Subject: OT: WWJP? (What would Jesus play) > > > > > > > More importantly, if Jesus returned and chose to play > > > professinal sports, what would he play? > > > > My first guess is golf. He seems like a pretty laid back guy who > can deal > > with stress, so I'm going with the PGA tour. If he hit a water > hazard his > > ball would probably just bounce off of it, if it can "walk" on > water too. > > Or he'd just part it like the Red Sea and play through without a > penalty > > shot. > > > > My next guess would be some sort of water sport, see the above > comments. > > > > Barry > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:09:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: WWJP? (What would Jesus play) > That's all. I apologize if this doesn't suit your > heart. :-) I liked it very much! - -- Leslie O. "Eating is murder!" -- Futurama episode, "The Problem with Popplers" __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:22:38 -0400 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: Atlanta show pictures Joe - Very cool - glad it's OK. My email should've said "I just put a link to your great photos from my measly little web pag" - I realize that by leaving the "I" part out, I made it look as if I was instructing YOU to put a link somewhere, which I wasn't doing. - - Specific Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Stale Tail > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 9:44 PM > To: basia@smoe.org > Subject: RE: Atlanta show pictures > > > > Steve, > > That is a great picture of you and Basia, and she certainly does > look like > she is in love with you! > > It is perfectly fine to link to the photos that Tara and I took. > I noticed > a few more hits recently. > > JOE > > > > >From: "Steve O'Hearn" > >Reply-To: basia@smoe.org > >To: > >Subject: RE: Atlanta show pictures > >Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:21:07 -0400 > > > > > >Joe - > > > >Just put a link to your great photos from my measly little web > page, which > >is at http://www.corbinian.com/usr/basia > > > >FYI. And of course, there's already a link to Leslie's as well. > > > >- Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:45:09 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Atlanta show pictures In a message dated 6/13/05 3:29:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, soh@corbinian.com writes: > Joe - > > Very cool - glad it's OK. My email should've said "I just put a link to > your great photos from my measly little web pag" - I realize that by leaving > the "I" part out, I made it look as if I was instructing YOU to put a link > somewhere, which I wasn't doing. > > - Specific Steve > Sure, NOW he tells us! J/K ~Joe~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:02:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: re: OT wwjplay But whatever he plays, he should pack pressure stockings in his kit. ;-) http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1502364,00.html (I'm making light, but I have a friend with this hovering over him and it actually sucks, though he'd be the first to laugh too) - -- Leslie O. "Eating is murder!" -- Futurama episode, "The Problem with Popplers" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V10 #145 ****************************