From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V10 #130 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Monday, May 23 2005 Volume 10 : Number 130 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Agua de Beber ["Gary Wingert" ] RE: Agua de Beber [Leslie Osborn ] Re: Agua de Beber [PParm16424@aol.com] Re: Agua de Beber [Leslie Osborn ] Re: Agua de Beber [Bill Roberts ] Fw: Agua de Beber ["Steve Richardson" ] Re: Fw: Agua de Beber [Leslie Osborn ] Re: Agua de Beber ["Dennis J. Majewicz" ] Re: Agua de Beber [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: Agua de Beber [Stephen Ylvisaker ] Re: Agua de Beber ["Kamille" ] Fw: Agua de Beber ["Steve Richardson" ] Re: Agua de Beber [Leslie Osborn ] Re: Agua de Beber [PParm16424@aol.com] Re: Agua de Beber [pineking@gwi.net] Re: Agua de Beber [Leslie Osborn ] Radio, but on topic [Leslie Osborn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 22:41:14 -0700 From: "Gary Wingert" Subject: RE: Agua de Beber > Yeah, I remember those days before they mostly abandoned her > and started playing all that Sting. ;-) that's how I heard > the other songs off T&T (The title track was on pop radio)-- > back then it was the Wave. "Ninety-four seven, the wa-a-ave..." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 23:35:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: RE: Agua de Beber > "Ninety-four seven, the wa-a-ave..." Yes, exactly, 'cept in my case it was.. "ninety-two threeee..." I still think that jingle when I tune to that station when home in the D-- it's now an adult R&B station, has been since it switched in '90 or so, but it still played Basia that year! Speaking of dead stations, CD102.7 (which also ran commericals for a very state of the art Laserdisc store in Novi, hahahah!) and.. the el supremo Detroit jazz station, WJZZ. I miss that one the most. Raised on the radio, Leslie O. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 02:58:21 EDT From: PParm16424@aol.com Subject: Re: Agua de Beber Whilst we are on the subject of old radio stations, when I was a teen, I used to be able to pick up 89 WLS in Chicago on certain nights. Living in mid-Michigan, that was no small feat. When I later moved to Springfield, Missouri (almost to Arkansas), I still found that on certain nights I could still pick up WLS. It was mostly top 40. I can still remember one DJs name: John "Record" Landecker. I guess the "Record" gives away how long ago that was, not to mention it being an AM station. Anybody else remember that station? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 00:44:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Agua de Beber All this talk about radio reminds me of how I first heard Matt Bianco. It was probably '91-92 when I was starved for new music, and constantly hoping to hear word of more on the radio. One day, faintly, I heard... a familiar voice. But it was staticy and I thought... no way, I must be hallucinating! But the singer, the arrangement, etc... it sounded like a new Basia song! So I made it my mission to pick up this station better. It was an awesome station, and to dig up old Matt Bianco it had to be. Based in Ann Arbor, it was a fairly free-form Album Adult Contemporary station that played equal parts jazzy music and singer-songwriter music. Eclectic. Of course, gone now. I was rewarded with "Sneaking Out the Back Door," and the DJ explained what it was. Boy. It was like issuing a challenge to my invisible Iron Chefs. ;-) I HAD to find this. Though being an import (and they said this, sort of, "haha. we have this other Basia music you haven't heard, aren't we great, good effing luck suckers!") it was a challenge. Not to mention no internet and limited mobility in suburbia-- I hadn't learned to drive yet obviously! I was having a weekend visit with my dad which involved a stopover to Lakeside Mall, and I went into the Harmony House thinking another vain attempt would transpire. But no! Somehow, someway, they had not only Whose Side Are You On but also Indigo and Matt Bianco, all on cassette! Being only interested in Basia I picked up the former, and I'm looking over at it right now. I almost gave it away when I got the CD, boy am I ever glad I didn't! I was a huge radio hound. But in those days, where else would you get your info, apart from print? - -- Leslie O. "You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just gonna ask where they're goin', and hook up with them later." -- Mitch Hedburg Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 08:13:45 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: Agua de Beber I remember Landecker. Pretty funny as I remember it. Quoting "" : > > Whilst we are on the subject of old radio stations, when I was a teen, I used > > to be able to pick up 89 WLS in Chicago on certain nights. Living in > mid-Michigan, that was no small feat. When I later moved to Springfield, > Missouri > (almost to Arkansas), I still found that on certain nights I could still pick > up > WLS. It was mostly top 40. I can still remember one DJs name: John "Record" > Landecker. I guess the "Record" gives away how long ago that was, not to > mention > it being an AM station. Anybody else remember that station? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 11:27:18 -0700 From: "Steve Richardson" Subject: Fw: Agua de Beber Growing up in Maryland in the late '60's I remember listening to a Buffalo, NY AM station at night. (Can't recall the call letters) They would play Dylan album cuts and stuff like Neil Young "Down By the River," the full album versions, stuff you'd never hear on AM. FM radio in cars was still a dream at that point. Thank goodness for the 50,000 watt AM stations. A few years later living in the midwest I would tune to a New Orleans station, they had a late-night show called "Bleeker Street." Had a DJ with a whispery voice who would play Hendrix and all sorts of rock songs I'd have never been introduced to otherwise. I'd be afraid to check now, they are all probably changed to conservative talk radio stations. Today with everyone having satellite radio, MTV, and Ipod's, I don't think younger folks could comprehend the difficulty of finding good music "way back when" and the thrill when you did come across it. Steve R. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 11:58 PM Subject: Re: Agua de Beber > > Whilst we are on the subject of old radio stations, when I was a teen, I > used > to be able to pick up 89 WLS in Chicago on certain nights. Living in > mid-Michigan, that was no small feat. When I later moved to Springfield, > Missouri > (almost to Arkansas), I still found that on certain nights I could still > pick up > WLS. It was mostly top 40. I can still remember one DJs name: John > "Record" > Landecker. I guess the "Record" gives away how long ago that was, not to > mention > it being an AM station. Anybody else remember that station? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 12:39:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Fw: Agua de Beber > Today with everyone having satellite radio, MTV, and > Ipod's, I don't think > younger folks could comprehend the difficulty of > finding good music "way > back when" and the thrill when you did come across > it. Indeed. And the idea of a personality you could trust, in terms of having radar for good music. Though being someone who has all the above apart from MTV, I must say that I get a lot of the thrill from other people's recommendations, too. It's very different, but also pretty gratifying. (Work is great for this, especially with our shared iTunes libraries) - -- Leslie O. "You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just gonna ask where they're goin', and hook up with them later." -- Mitch Hedburg Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 20:02:54 -0400 From: "Dennis J. Majewicz" Subject: Re: Agua de Beber Steve, that blowtorch from Buffalo was WKBW, 1520 KHz. Heard up and down the Eastern Seaboard and as far away as Europe. It had a rich history with such names as Joey Reynolds, Tom Shannon, Dick Biondi, Jack Armstrong, Rod Roddy, Don Berns, Jefferson Kaye among others either starting out there or working their way up. I loved that station. Growing up in Buffalo, I had the opportunity to hear it whenever I cared to. I was a radio junkie, you see. Even as a small child in the late 50's I pretended to be a dj with my record player at home. Later on, a couple of friends and I started a pirate station on AM. We had a lot of fun until the FCC decided we should stop. A week later I had a legitimate job at a local station, and worked in the business for a few years. Enough time to get it out of my system. At the time I worked in it, Buffalo was a number 18 market. If the Canadian listeners could be included (which was not allowed by the ratings companies) it probably would be in the top 10, Toronto being close enough for a much larger audience. (It's a declining market, currently around number 52.) One of the guys I pirated with went on to work for 'KB. He started in 1969 and worked overnights, so you may have actually heard him. I had fun on-air, but found I liked engineering much better. I've been in that end of it for 31 years now, 23 of it in television. Listening to distant stations was a hobby for me back then. Of course WLS was easy to get in Buffalo. I remember Larry Lujack. New York City was a favorite, though. WABC was thrilling to listen to in the mid-60's. Those guys were so tight- the jingle packages were amazing. CKLW was another fave. We could get it during the daytime here and the Bill Drake years were phenomenal. I think the most distant station I heard was from Salt Lake City. This was with ordinary transistor radios. My cousin heard LA one night. Of course AM radio was much different back then. With so much RF radiation now, the noise floor on AM is very high and distant signals are harder to receive. A lot of you may not realize that AM sounded much better back then, also. Up until the late 80's, frequency response was not as limited as it is now. There is a strict limit in bandwidth now, 10 KHz is the max. It makes for muddy sounding radio. By the way, we had our version of the Wave format here in the late 80's. The call letters were WBMW. Who do you think the target audience was? Could they have lived in the affluent suburbs? :-) Anyone remember the name Jon Butterfield? He was one of the syndicated announcers when the stations weren't running live assist automation. Very distinctive voice. Great memories. Dennis - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Richardson" To: Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: Fw: Agua de Beber > > Growing up in Maryland in the late '60's I remember listening to a Buffalo, > NY AM station at night. (Can't recall the call letters) They would play > Dylan album cuts and stuff like Neil Young "Down By the River," the full > album versions, stuff you'd never hear on AM. FM radio in cars was still a ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 20:58:27 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Agua de Beber Smooth Jazz has been described so many ways. Some call it instrumental R&B (which most of it is). Some call it elevator music, and IMO some of it is. But much of it is good. WJJZ here in Philly does a good job of programming what it's listeners want. Most music/program directors react to what their listeners say. The best way to get what you want played on the air is to phone or write the station and laud the music director AFTER the station has played something you like. That's more likely to work than to just call and request a certain artist or song. "Why don't you play more so and so?" irks most directors. "Hey, loved hearing Basia. I'd love to hear more of her" works much better. No one wants to hear elevator music, but in fairness I discovered many great artists on Smooth Jazz Radio. Artists like Basia, Swing Out Sister, Randy Crawford and many more. So for every Kenny G (and I'm not knocking him) there is at least one Basia. Hell, in the 60's when I listened to the progressive rock stations I didn't like everything they played either. I love Brazilain Music whether you call it Jazz Samba or Bossa Nova. You could easily make the argument that this was the first "smooth jazz". Leslie, you should check out that Twist Of Jobim CD. It has some great ttracks on it. ~Joe~ In a message dated 5/21/05 8:23:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, marzenie_99@yahoo.com writes: > Hey, since everyone gets so riled up about Brazilian > music on here ;-) and since no one is talking, thought > I'd throw this out and see if it sticks: has anyone > heard the newest cover of Agua de Beber, by Lee > Ritenour and Dave Grusin (apparently?). It's so > massively smooth jazz it hurts, I'm begging for some > roughness after hearing it. But maybe being a classic > song saves it. Thoughts? > > Hilariously, I'm listening to a lot of smooth jazz > lately but then I'm commuting more too. ;-) Gotta stay > calm on CA roads! (not to mention at work, but that > another post!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:00:15 -0700 From: Stephen Ylvisaker Subject: Re: Agua de Beber On 5/21/05 6:08 PM, "Leslie Osborn" wrote: > Oh, and to keep my cred intact ;-) : the local Sonoma > station is like 10 times better than the usual. And > Sirius is about 3 times better than the same usual. > > I wouldn't touch the big ones with a ten-foot pole > however. > > --LO Leslie, Try tuning into 92.7 around home and moving over to 91.1 as you get down to SF. KCSM can "smooth" out the commute, too. - -- Stephen Ylvisaker greyfell@gns2000.com "Never do business with pets you don't trust." Robert Kiyosaki, author of RICH DAD, POOR DAD ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 20:04:24 -0500 From: "Kamille" Subject: Re: Agua de Beber "I'm Lester the Nightfly. Hello Baton Rouge." ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Richardson To: basia@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Fw: Agua de Beber Growing up in Maryland in the late '60's I remember listening to a Buffalo, NY AM station at night. (Can't recall the call letters) They would play Dylan album cuts and stuff like Neil Young "Down By the River," the full album versions, stuff you'd never hear on AM. FM radio in cars was still a dream at that point. Thank goodness for the 50,000 watt AM stations. A few years later living in the midwest I would tune to a New Orleans station, they had a late-night show called "Bleeker Street." Had a DJ with a whispery voice who would play Hendrix and all sorts of rock songs I'd have never been introduced to otherwise. I'd be afraid to check now, they are all probably changed to conservative talk radio stations. Today with everyone having satellite radio, MTV, and Ipod's, I don't think younger folks could comprehend the difficulty of finding good music "way back when" and the thrill when you did come across it. Steve R. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 11:58 PM Subject: Re: Agua de Beber > > Whilst we are on the subject of old radio stations, when I was a teen, I > used > to be able to pick up 89 WLS in Chicago on certain nights. Living in > mid-Michigan, that was no small feat. When I later moved to Springfield, > Missouri > (almost to Arkansas), I still found that on certain nights I could still > pick up > WLS. It was mostly top 40. I can still remember one DJs name: John > "Record" > Landecker. I guess the "Record" gives away how long ago that was, not to > mention > it being an AM station. Anybody else remember that station? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:59:44 -0700 From: "Steve Richardson" Subject: Fw: Agua de Beber Dennis... Absolutely, WKBW, once you said it I wondered how I could have ever forgotten. Man, that just makes some great memories flood back in...first car, first summer romance, etc. Thanks for sharing a few memories with us. I also used to love to listen to AM radio late at night, try to see how many distant stations I could find. Even when I first moved here to Arizona, I used to try...one night I picked up WJZ in Boston all the way out here. Now I can find Albuquerque, KNX in LA, a Denver station perhaps, nothing really too distant. Steve R. PS...so we're not totally off topic, Watercolors (#71 on XM radio) just played "Ordinary Day" about an hour ago! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis J. Majewicz" To: Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Agua de Beber > > Steve, that blowtorch from Buffalo was WKBW, 1520 KHz. Heard up and down > the > Eastern Seaboard and as far away as Europe. It had a rich history with > such > names as Joey Reynolds, Tom Shannon, Dick Biondi, Jack Armstrong, Rod > Roddy, > Don Berns, Jefferson Kaye among others either starting out there or > working > their way up. > > I loved that station. Growing up in Buffalo, I had the opportunity to hear > it whenever I cared to. > > I was a radio junkie, you see. Even as a small child in the late 50's I > pretended to be a dj with my record player at home. Later on, a couple of > friends and I started a pirate station on AM. We had a lot of fun until > the > FCC decided we should stop. A week later I had a legitimate job at a local > station, and worked in the business for a few years. Enough time to get it > out of my system. At the time I worked in it, Buffalo was a number 18 > market. If the Canadian listeners could be included (which was not allowed > by the ratings companies) it probably would be in the top 10, Toronto > being > close enough for a much larger audience. (It's a declining market, > currently > around number 52.) One of the guys I pirated with went on to work for 'KB. > He started in 1969 and worked overnights, so you may have actually heard > him. I had fun on-air, but found I liked engineering much better. I've > been > in that end of it for 31 years now, 23 of it in television. > > Listening to distant stations was a hobby for me back then. Of course WLS > was easy to get in Buffalo. I remember Larry Lujack. New York City was a > favorite, though. WABC was thrilling to listen to in the mid-60's. Those > guys were so tight- the jingle packages were amazing. CKLW was another > fave. > We could get it during the daytime here and the Bill Drake years were > phenomenal. I think the most distant station I heard was from Salt Lake > City. This was with ordinary transistor radios. My cousin heard LA one > night. Of course AM radio was much different back then. With so much RF > radiation now, the noise floor on AM is very high and distant signals are > harder to receive. A lot of you may not realize that AM sounded much > better > back then, also. Up until the late 80's, frequency response was not as > limited as it is now. There is a strict limit in bandwidth now, 10 KHz is > the max. It makes for muddy sounding radio. > > By the way, we had our version of the Wave format here in the late 80's. > The > call letters were WBMW. Who do you think the target audience was? Could > they > have lived in the affluent suburbs? :-) Anyone remember the name Jon > Butterfield? He was one of the syndicated announcers when the stations > weren't running live assist automation. Very distinctive voice. > > Great memories. > > Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:08:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Agua de Beber > "I'm Lester the Nightfly. > Hello Baton Rouge." Exactly!! - -- Leslie O. "You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just gonna ask where they're goin', and hook up with them later." -- Mitch Hedburg Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:58:26 EDT From: PParm16424@aol.com Subject: Re: Agua de Beber Ah yes, Larry Lujack. That's a name I had forgotten. Don't ask me why, but I still remember one rather lame joke one of them on WLS told back in '74. (I remember where I was living when I heard it.) It was told in preparation for playing a song by Chicago. It went something like this: In the royal court, there was "Sir Nose", "Sir Eye", and "Sir Ear". But, there was one disraught knight, requesting of the king to get his name changed. "Why?" asked the king. "Because, I have been "Sir Chin" so long.... (groan here) Yeah, sorry about that. It's wierd what stays with ya', even from 31 years ago! And CKLW was another favorite of mine, but I am not remembering where they were located. Detroit, maybe? Phil P. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:03:16 -0400 From: pineking@gwi.net Subject: Re: Agua de Beber Dick Summer was like, chopped ham? Evenings WBZ through the '60's he played Hendrix, Cream, Springfield, Dead, and commented on Electric Flag, Insect Trust. He promoted Ultimate Spinach, for God's sake! I listened in south Florida on clear nights, before I went north annually for parental struggle situations. On 22 May 2005 at 20:02, Dennis J. Majewicz wrote: > > Steve, that blowtorch from Buffalo was WKBW, 1520 KHz. Heard up and down the > Eastern Seaboard and as far away as Europe. It had a rich history with such > names as Joey Reynolds, Tom Shannon, Dick Biondi, Jack Armstrong, Rod Roddy, > Don Berns, Jefferson Kaye among others either starting out there or working > their way up. > > I loved that station. Growing up in Buffalo, I had the opportunity to hear > it whenever I cared to. > > I was a radio junkie, you see. Even as a small child in the late 50's I > pretended to be a dj with my record player at home. Later on, a couple of > friends and I started a pirate station on AM. We had a lot of fun until the > FCC decided we should stop. A week later I had a legitimate job at a local > station, and worked in the business for a few years. Enough time to get it > out of my system. At the time I worked in it, Buffalo was a number 18 > market. If the Canadian listeners could be included (which was not allowed > by the ratings companies) it probably would be in the top 10, Toronto being > close enough for a much larger audience. (It's a declining market, currently > around number 52.) One of the guys I pirated with went on to work for 'KB. > He started in 1969 and worked overnights, so you may have actually heard > him. I had fun on-air, but found I liked engineering much better. I've been > in that end of it for 31 years now, 23 of it in television. > > Listening to distant stations was a hobby for me back then. Of course WLS > was easy to get in Buffalo. I remember Larry Lujack. New York City was a > favorite, though. WABC was thrilling to listen to in the mid-60's. Those > guys were so tight- the jingle packages were amazing. CKLW was another fave. > We could get it during the daytime here and the Bill Drake years were > phenomenal. I think the most distant station I heard was from Salt Lake > City. This was with ordinary transistor radios. My cousin heard LA one > night. Of course AM radio was much different back then. With so much RF > radiation now, the noise floor on AM is very high and distant signals are > harder to receive. A lot of you may not realize that AM sounded much better > back then, also. Up until the late 80's, frequency response was not as > limited as it is now. There is a strict limit in bandwidth now, 10 KHz is > the max. It makes for muddy sounding radio. > > By the way, we had our version of the Wave format here in the late 80's. The > call letters were WBMW. Who do you think the target audience was? Could they > have lived in the affluent suburbs? :-) Anyone remember the name Jon > Butterfield? He was one of the syndicated announcers when the stations > weren't running live assist automation. Very distinctive voice. > > Great memories. > > Dennis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Richardson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 2:27 PM > Subject: Fw: Agua de Beber > > > > > > Growing up in Maryland in the late '60's I remember listening to a > Buffalo, > > NY AM station at night. (Can't recall the call letters) They would play > > Dylan album cuts and stuff like Neil Young "Down By the River," the full > > album versions, stuff you'd never hear on AM. FM radio in cars was still > a ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 19:59:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Agua de Beber > And CKLW was another favorite of mine, but I am not > remembering where they > were located. Detroit, maybe? Yeppers, though before my time, so I don't remember it. Much lamented loss by my parents though. I believe there was a station later that did many a homage to it. Wasn't Dick Purtan a DJ there? - -- Leslie O. "You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just gonna ask where they're goin', and hook up with them later." -- Mitch Hedburg __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 20:10:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Radio, but on topic Steve bringing up XM reminded me to pass along this way to track the current album, at least on some small level (neither this nor the Radio & Records system contains all the stations in the format) http://www.smoothjazz.com/charts/show_stations.php?track=930 (you can check any current "smooth jazz" release in their top 50 by going to this link http://www.smoothjazz.com/charts/ and clicking on the number in the last column. Fun for info geeks) So last week, XM Watercolors played it (assuming it's Ordinary Day, still the current single) four times, while Sirius Jazz Cafe played it 16 times! My prediction is that all of this will go up if La Luna is indeed the next single. Word! - -- Leslie O. "You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just gonna ask where they're goin', and hook up with them later." -- Mitch Hedburg Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V10 #130 ****************************