From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V10 #93 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Monday, April 18 2005 Volume 10 : Number 093 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Mark Reilly [J3SITE@aol.com] Sheryl's question: How she looked [Time Voyagers ] Re: Sheryl's question: How she looked [ZZsaZZsa@aol.com] Re: enough already [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: Sheryl's question: How she looked [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: Mark Reilly [Bill Roberts ] Re: Westbury Concert [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: enough already [Bill Roberts ] Re: Mark Reilly [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: enough already [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: Mark Reilly [Bill Roberts ] Re: enough already [Bill Roberts ] Re: Dizzy in Glenside from a kiss! [Time Voyagers ] Everyone... [Leslie Osborn ] Re: Dizzy in Glenside from a kiss! [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: Mark Reilly [J3SITE@aol.com] Amy Leaving? [PParm16424@aol.com] Re: Everyone... [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: Everyone... [Bill Roberts ] Re: Westbury Concert [steve7701@theriver.com] Re: Amy Leaving? ["Amy ODonnell" ] RE: off on the right foot. [Bill Roberts ] Re: Everyone... [Bill Roberts ] Re: Mark Reilly [j w ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:49:55 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Mark Reilly In a message dated 4/18/05 10:28:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, amystuff@juno.com writes: > Replies to you don't require much thought. That way I can get back to what > I was doing before. So bugger off, you useless git. Joe replies: I happen to be a very useful "git". And, I'd "bugger off" if I knew how. ~Joe~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Time Voyagers Subject: Sheryl's question: How she looked Hi, Sheryl, I sensed a little nervousness on the part of Basia in the first couple of numbers at the Keswick Theatre, but heck, I can understand that. She wouldn't be serious about her music if she were not at all nervous. She made a comment about being away from the Keswick Theatre for ten years and was afraid that no one would remember her. I think the audience disproved that notion. The long absence from performing has done nothing to her energy, sincerity, or her talent. She has some very complicated and intricate song lyrics and they were as fresh as if she wrote them last week. Her scat singing and vocal instrumentation are still that of a master musician and she matched the levels found on her recordings. The harmonies she and the backup voices added were perfect. They will make your heart soar. She exceeded my expectations in person. She seemed to warm up more and more as the audience grew increasingly enthusiastic. She seemed genuinely touched by the warm response. And, I've developed an even deeper appreciation for the synergy between Basia, Danny White, and Mark Reilly. I don't think people normally appreciate the behind-the-scenes work that goes into creating a special song and don't think about how any other arrangement might not work for many reasons. In fact, if they had not reunited, we might all still be yearning to see her again. Danny and Mark were also very congenial and engaging after the show and did not seem to mind signing autographs. As for how she looks, in the years before the concert, I've only seen photographs, and a couple of videos. I knew that it was a decade or more since those images were made. I was impressed Saturday night by how beautiful she is--as though she had spent the past decade in Neverland not aging at all. She does not use heavy makeup. She has a very natural, youthful look and her shoulder length, dark hair seems very natural. How she appears on stage is exactly how she looks close up and in person. Her sincere smile, the twinkle in her eyes, and her warm personality make her so incredibly real, even if it was a surreal moment getting to meet her up close. I was impressed also by how she did not wait for fans to approach her. As soon as she saw us waiting in the cold (we waited an hour because of a radio interview with Matt Bianco), without hesitation she immediately handed her costume bag to someone and walked up to us with a big smile and began engaging us in conversation (I love her accent) and signing autographs. There's a kind of sweet, humble shyness about her, and yet she gladly and graciously took the time and openly showed her affection for her fans, even though her road manager was trying to rush her off, which she politely rebuffed. There was not a big mob, so it was probably comfortable for her to acknowledge us without being overwhelmed. What a breath of fresh air she is. Basia is as beautiful inside as she is on the outside and her upbeat and sensitive personality that is suggested in her songs is certainly evident off stage. I have met a few other famous singers and actors off stage in my life with whom I was bitterly disappointed in their personality. No so with Basia. I can now say first hand that adoring and respectful opinions of her are highly deserved! Fred >>WOW, Fred!!!!! That is wonderful! How lucky you were to meet Miss T in person. You simply *have* to give us more details about what she looked like up close, how she sounded, what else she said, etc.! Lucky you! - - -Sheryl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:52:49 -0700 (MST) From: steve7701@theriver.com Subject: Re: Westbury Concert I remember reading a story around the time of the Milli Vanilli fiasco. At that time the writer stated that user of tapes was endemic. He stated the ONLY major pop/rock band that played every sound that was coming from the stage live was Metallica. That might have been somewhat exagerated, but it made a point, and I thought it was a pretty sad thing to read. Steve R. thinking back on the Steely Dan Concert I went to in St. Paul in Sept. of 2003, I would have been hard pressed to say ANYTHING they did was recorded. Same goes for Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. DM&FS At 07:05 AM 4/18/2005, J3SITE@aol.com wrote: >Jim, thank you for your excellent review. You could do this for a living. I >especially appreciated your remarks concerning SOS's Cansfield and the >underated talents of Danny White. >The pre-recording seems to be the norm now. I suppose that with all the >technical considerations it must make sense for the musicians/singers. >Like you I'd >prefer everything to be live, but that's rarely the case anymore. >Again, thank you for an insightful, honest review. > >~Joe~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:04:29 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Mark Reilly In a message dated 4/18/05 10:28:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kamille@insightbb.com writes: > For whatever reason, Americans seem to prefer the music of Basia and Danny > as > record sales will attest. Whether it was lack of talent or lack of > promotion, > Matt Bianco never caught on here while they were huge in Europe and Japan. > From what I understand, Basia and Danny never reached the popularity they > enjoyed in the US in Europe and elsewhere. > > Based on that, it seems obvious to me that most of us would prefer to have > all > Basia all the time on this current tour. If she'd joined the Menudo reunion > tour, I would still buy a ticket. I don't think Mark deserves the personal > attacks -- he's sold more records than any of us and it's too easy to throw > rotten tomatoes (at Mark and each other) from the anonymity of this list. > That's been a pattern here for some of us and is a reflection of inner soul. > > Subtracting all the nasty stuff, I think it's simply a matter of the > American > palate. But, thank you, Mark, for whatever part you played in helping Basia > return to the studio and the stage. After all, that's what we waited so > long > for. THE END. > > Kamille > Kamille, you're so right. I was well into my third Basia CD before I heard of Matt Bianco and bought their 1985 CD only because of Basia's participation. Even now, Matt Bianco is only being promoted to benefit the tour. And most venues are billing the shows as "Basia, featuring Matt Bianco". It sure doesn't help that to buy MB CD's in the past we've had to shell out $35.00 for imports. I bought Matt's Mood that way, too. Then several months later they finaly made it available here for les than $20.00 at most stores/on-line sites. I apologize to list members for the nastiness I've directed at Billy R. But I remind you also that I've never said anything at all "nasty" about Mark O'Reilly. I just said that I didn't care for his voice. He seems to be a good musician and a personable fellow. I wish him well in his career. If Basia is with MB I'll go to every concert as I did this one. If she's on MB's CD's I'll buy them too. Menudo would surely test my resolve though. LOL ~Joe~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:06:54 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: Westbury Concert You pay attention. Your comments didn't match your rantings. I was responding to your earlier post. Apparently I was using words that are too big for you. > > Billy. Pay attention. Here's how it works. I was referring to and responding > > to your post. Capisce? Probably not. Go lie down for a while. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:08:03 EDT From: ZZsaZZsa@aol.com Subject: Re: Sheryl's question: How she looked Wow, Fred. You were very lucky. Thanks for your descriptions! Made me feel like I was there with you! :-) - -Sheryl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:10:45 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: enough already In a message dated 4/18/05 10:53:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, whroberts@iquest.net writes: > "In contrast to the exquisite sounds of Basia's voice was Mark's voice > which > was mediocre in contrast. However, Mark can carry a tune and their voices > blended well in superb harmony". > > > > > > > > Fine, but how do you give a thorough, honest review without mentioning it? > > > > ~Joe~ > OK, I'll agree that Mark can carry a tune. He doesn't sing out of tune. I just do not find his voice to be pleasant. I do not agree that "their voices blended well in superb harmony". But we all listen differently and hear differently. We also have different tastes and expectations. That's why we have this list isn't it? To exchange ideas and feelings about Basia, et al? Or am I mistaken? Is this meant to be solely a fan club-type list? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:19:29 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Sheryl's question: How she looked In a message dated 4/18/05 10:53:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, timevoyagers@prodigy.net writes: > Hi, Sheryl, > > I sensed a little nervousness on the part of Basia in the first couple of > numbers at the Keswick Theatre, but heck, I can understand that. She wouldn't > be serious about her music if she were not at all nervous. She made a comment > about being away from the Keswick Theatre for ten years and was afraid that > no one would remember her. I think the audience disproved that notion. The > long absence from performing has done nothing to her energy, sincerity, or her > talent. She has some very complicated and intricate song lyrics and they were > as fresh as if she wrote them last week. Her scat singing and vocal > instrumentation are still that of a master musician and she matched the levels found > on her recordings. The harmonies she and the backup voices added were perfect. > They will make your heart soar. She exceeded my expectations in person. She > seemed to warm up more and more as the audience grew increasingly > enthusiastic. She seemed genuinely touched by the warm response. > > And, I've developed an even deeper appreciation for the synergy between > Basia, Danny White, and Mark Reilly. I don't think people normally appreciate the > behind-the-scenes work that goes into creating a special song and don't > think about how any other arrangement might not work for many reasons. In fact, > if they had not reunited, we might all still be yearning to see her again. > Danny and Mark were also very congenial and engaging after the show and did not > seem to mind signing autographs. > > As for how she looks, in the years before the concert, I've only seen > photographs, and a couple of videos. I knew that it was a decade or more since > those images were made. I was impressed Saturday night by how beautiful she > is--as though she had spent the past decade in Neverland not aging at all. She > does not use heavy makeup. She has a very natural, youthful look and her > shoulder length, dark hair seems very natural. How she appears on stage is exactly > how she looks close up and in person. Her sincere smile, the twinkle in her > eyes, and her warm personality make her so incredibly real, even if it was a > surreal moment getting to meet her up close. I was impressed also by how she > did not wait for fans to approach her. As soon as she saw us waiting in the > cold (we waited an hour because of a radio interview with Matt Bianco), without > hesitation she immediately handed her costume bag to someone and walked up to > us with a big smile and began engaging us in conversation (I love! > her > accent) and signing autographs. There's a kind of sweet, humble shyness > about her, and yet she gladly and graciously took the time and openly showed her > affection for her fans, even though her road manager was trying to rush her > off, which she politely rebuffed. There was not a big mob, so it was probably > comfortable for her to acknowledge us without being overwhelmed. > > What a breath of fresh air she is. Basia is as beautiful inside as she is on > the outside and her upbeat and sensitive personality that is suggested in > her songs is certainly evident off stage. I have met a few other famous singers > and actors off stage in my life with whom I was bitterly disappointed in > their personality. No so with Basia. I can now say first hand that adoring and > respectful opinions of her are highly deserved! > > Fred > You know Fred, another thing that impressed me was how great Basia sounded once the early "nervousness" had passed. Considering that she hadn't performed in so many years you have to be impressed. She hasn't missed a beat. That means that she has been rehearsing for many months to prepare for this tour. She's that kind of pro! Before the show I was wondering how the rigors of the intense tour with so many one-night stands all over the geography might catch up to her. Thankfully it hasn't. I must add that I adore the girlish playful quality of her voice that she projects at times. That and her natural good looks make her appear so fresh and young. Viva Basia. Encore! Encore! ~Joe~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:27:19 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: Mark Reilly You heard it folks. I finally agree with him. He wants off this list. Of course with his lack of reading comprehension, he probably thought "bugger off" meant cramming something into his sphincter, but then he would suffer brain damage in what's left of it. Quoting "" : > > In a message dated 4/18/05 10:28:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > amystuff@juno.com writes: > > > > Replies to you don't require much thought. That way I can get back to what > > > I was doing before. So bugger off, you useless git. > > Joe replies: > I happen to be a very useful "git". > And, I'd "bugger off" if I knew how. > > ~Joe~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:28:17 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Westbury Concert Steve, it may be because the newest generation of musicians have been brought up with all these wonderful technical devices to use with their music. It makes sense I suppose that they would also employ them to make their onstage sound comply to their in-studio sound which we hear on the CD's. That seems to be an ever growing aim. Maybe it's because it's what younger concert goers may expect. The spontanaiety of live music is so exciting. We don't really expect to hear a studio sound at a concert do we?. Otherwise just stay home and listen to the CD's, right? Sad indeed. ~Joe~ In a message dated 4/18/05 11:02:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, steve7701@theriver.com writes: I remember reading a story around the time of the Milli Vanilli fiasco. > At that time the writer stated that user of tapes was endemic. He stated > the ONLY major pop/rock band that played every sound that was coming from > the stage live was Metallica. That might have been somewhat exagerated, > but it made a point, and I thought it was a pretty sad thing to read. > > Steve R. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:30:12 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: enough already Yes, this is about Basia. Quoting "" : > > In a message dated 4/18/05 10:53:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > whroberts@iquest.net writes: > > > > "In contrast to the exquisite sounds of Basia's voice was Mark's voice > > which > > was mediocre in contrast. However, Mark can carry a tune and their voices > > > blended well in superb harmony". > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine, but how do you give a thorough, honest review without mentioning > it? > > > > > > ~Joe~ > > > > OK, I'll agree that Mark can carry a tune. He doesn't sing out of tune. I > just do not find his voice to be pleasant. I do not agree that > "their voices blended well in superb harmony". But we all listen differently > > and hear differently. We also have different tastes and expectations. That's > > why we have this list isn't it? To exchange ideas and feelings about Basia, > et > al? Or am I mistaken? Is this meant to be solely a fan club-type list? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:18 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Mark Reilly Wow, Billy R. returns to the gutter from whence he came. No surprise there, huh folks? ~Joe~ You heard it folks. I finally agree with him. He wants off this list. Of course with his lack of reading comprehension, he probably thought "bugger off" meant cramming something into his sphincter, but then he would suffer brain damage in what's left of it. Quoting "" : > > In a message dated 4/18/05 10:28:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > amystuff@juno.com writes: > > > > Replies to you don't require much thought. That way I can get back to what > > > I was doing before. So bugger off, you useless git. > > Joe replies: > I happen to be a very useful "git". > And, I'd "bugger off" if I knew how. > > ~Joe~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:37:11 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: enough already Thank you Billy. That makes everything so clear. ~Joe~ Yes, this is about Basia. Quoting "" : > > In a message dated 4/18/05 10:53:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > whroberts@iquest.net writes: > > > > "In contrast to the exquisite sounds of Basia's voice was Mark's voice > > which > > was mediocre in contrast. However, Mark can carry a tune and their voices > > > blended well in superb harmony". > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine, but how do you give a thorough, honest review without mentioning > it? > > > > > > ~Joe~ > > > > OK, I'll agree that Mark can carry a tune. He doesn't sing out of tune. I > just do not find his voice to be pleasant. I do not agree that > "their voices blended well in superb harmony". But we all listen differently > > and hear differently. We also have different tastes and expectations. That's > > why we have this list isn't it? To exchange ideas and feelings about Basia, > et > al? Or am I mistaken? Is this meant to be solely a fan club-type list? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:50:47 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: Mark Reilly You are really funny talking about a gutter. Would you like to share the "enlightened" comments you have sent to me offlist? You pompous windbag. Quoting "" : > > Wow, Billy R. returns to the gutter from whence he came. No surprise there, > huh folks? > > ~Joe~ > > You heard it folks. I finally agree with him. He wants off this list. Of > course with his lack of reading comprehension, he probably thought "bugger > off" > meant cramming something into his sphincter, but then he would suffer brain > damage in what's left of it. > > > > Quoting "" : > > > > > In a message dated 4/18/05 10:28:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > amystuff@juno.com writes: > > > > > > > Replies to you don't require much thought. That way I can get back to > what > > > > > I was doing before. So bugger off, you useless git. > > > > Joe replies: > > I happen to be a very useful "git". > > And, I'd "bugger off" if I knew how. > > > > ~Joe~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:52:45 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: enough already So talk about Basia, then clown. > > Thank you Billy. That makes everything so clear. > ~Joe~ > > > Yes, this is about Basia. > Quoting "" : > > > > > In a message dated 4/18/05 10:53:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > whroberts@iquest.net writes: > > > > > > > "In contrast to the exquisite sounds of Basia's voice was Mark's voice > > > which > > > was mediocre in contrast. However, Mark can carry a tune and their > voices > > > > > blended well in superb harmony". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine, but how do you give a thorough, honest review without mentioning > > it? > > > > > > > > ~Joe~ > > > > > > > OK, I'll agree that Mark can carry a tune. He doesn't sing out of tune. I > > just do not find his voice to be pleasant. I do not agree that > > "their voices blended well in superb harmony". But we all listen > differently > > > > and hear differently. We also have different tastes and expectations. > That's > > > > why we have this list isn't it? To exchange ideas and feelings about > Basia, > > et > > al? Or am I mistaken? Is this meant to be solely a fan club-type list? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:53:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Time Voyagers Subject: Re: Dizzy in Glenside from a kiss! Hi, Leslie, I bet you say that to all the guys. Ha! By, Something for the site, do you mean BasiaWeb or MattBianco? Ill check out both. Ive had to tend to some professional priorities, so Im posting on one group or site at a time when I get some moments free. So far, I've posted on this group, on the Other artists section of the Sarah Brightman forum where Ive been quite active (I've noticed a number of Sarah's fans are also Basia fans), and bragging to many of my friends who tend to give a listen to artists I recommend. As for talking about my encounter, Im a great believer in appreciating and staying in awe of the rare and special moments in life. Fred >Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT) >From: Leslie Osborn >Subject: Re: Dizzy in Glenside from a kiss! > >You suck, Fred! ;-) ;-) Kidding! You simply must send in something for the site. > >As this goes on, and as the mail comes in to me (not just here), I am continually amazed at how dedicated they are to their fans and how often Basia has been going above and beyond to see them. And how smiley Danny looks in photos! > >- --LO ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:57:39 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Mark Reilly Well Billy, I've saved everything you've sent to me offlist as well, including tyour cowardly and lowlife attacks on my family. I can also include my offer to meet you in person to "discuss" those comments. I'm still awaiting your reply on that one. ~Joe~ In a message dated 4/18/05 11:52:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, whroberts@iquest.net writes: > You are really funny talking about a gutter. Would you like to share > the "enlightened" comments you have sent to me offlist? You pompous > windbag. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:01:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Time Voyagers Subject: Re: Dizzy in Glenside from a kiss! Hi, Joe, Sorry about your calf muscle. That was nice of them to give you the parking space. Of course, it would have been nicer if Basia had helped you from and to your car! Ha! Hey, dreams do come true. Look at me. You did have great seats. Are you a member of Keswick? Were not. JJ was as close as we could get, but the seats were pretty good. I see Danny Whites brother, guitarist Peter White, will be at Keswick in a few weeks. Are you going to see him? No, no radio contest. I never win things like that. But I have declared my cheek to be a national historic site! It was just a lucky chance of paths since my car was parked behind the theatre. I dont normally hang around after concerts, but getting Basia, Danny, and Mark to sign CDs had special meaning for me. I can count on the fingers of one hand the artists for whom Id be willing to wait for the chance of meeting, simply because its normally an exercise in futility and I have no interest in selling autographs. I ask for an autograph because I truly admire the artist and treasure the signed album. So I didnt mind waiting around in the cold temperatures and would have been happy just for a close glimpse and wave from Basia as she drove off had that been the case. We waited an hour in the cold, but it was worth it. Some people measure success by selling out a 75,000-seat stadium (mainly major record companies think that way). But I can tell you from being around the music business in the past that success can also be found in small venues with enthusiastic crowds. Not counting or comparing true talent, talk to people who saw Ashlee Simpson at that diastrous Orange Bowl appearance and then talk to most people who saw the concert at the Keswick Theatre. Aside from the tremendous expenses of being on tour, its much better for an artist to sell out a small venue then to be booked into a large arena and, although drawing more people than a small venue, the empty seats still look worse than playing a small venue. Clear as mud? Ill envy Basia and Matt Bianco any day. What is incredible is that, unlike the broken shards of vinyl that past artists have landed upon attempting a come back is that Basia and Matt Bianco, I believe, are rediscovering that a relatively well-paved path is still there for them to walk and with fans along the way still ready to welcome them home. And why not? Basia has already given us wonderful musical memories, the Matt Bianco band is one of the best bands out there right now, and it is likely that their best work could still be ahead of them. Fred >Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:31:56 EDT >From: J3SITE@aol.com >Subject: Re: Dizzy in Glenside from a kiss! > >Fred, you lucky devil. Were you the winner of the WJJZ contest? I got close enough to say hi and got a nod but you got a kiss. Fred, I'm green with envy. > >I was thrilled with my seats, Row EE. I too enjoyed O'2l..I think they will develop into a wonderful band. The keyboards sounded loud all night for both acts. Some folks said the Kes wasn't sold out but I noticed many standing in the back of the theater watching the show. Did you see them? I saw no empty seats. The audience was wonderful and I heard no groans or negative comments concerning anyone...just "yikes, turn down the sound." > >I must say that the folks at the Keswick were very accomodating. I have a torn calf muscle and have a bit of difficulty walking and they allowed me to use handicapped parking right in front of the theater. Bless them! > >~Joe~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:08:05 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: Mark Reilly I already sent it once. Indianapolis. And you are obviously too stupid to realize I wasn't talking about your real family, even though I have already said it once. Anytime, stupid. Btw would you like to know how many people have emailed me offlist to tell me how much they dislike you? You continue to respond to other's posts as though you think anyone still wants to communicate with you. You are completely oblivious. What a complete dumbass. You are too stupid to know how much you have made others dislike you. What a small world you live in. You just don't know when to shut up and drop it. Quoting "" : > > Well Billy, I've saved everything you've sent to me offlist as well, > including tyour cowardly and lowlife attacks on my family. I can also include > my offer > to meet you in person to "discuss" those comments. I'm still awaiting your > reply on that one. > > ~Joe~ > > In a message dated 4/18/05 11:52:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > whroberts@iquest.net writes: > > You are really funny talking about a gutter. Would you like to share > > the "enlightened" comments you have sent to me offlist? You pompous > > windbag. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:19:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Everyone... Bloody hell! I don't participate on the other Basia list because the vibe was so bad, and now here on smoe and it's ten times worse! What is a sane Basia fan to do? Do you guys have any idea that I have been recommending this list to people cruising (no pun) BasiaWeb? No more. I would sooner lead a new fan here than I would lead a lamb to the wolves! I truly hope that no one reads this list from the group-- I'm totally ashamed. It's not a fan club list obviously. But there's a diff between a critical review and an all out attack. But the attacks on here are at an all-time low. You guys are lucky I'm not a mod on this list, and I'm a very very liberal mod. That's how bad it is. Dirk-- if I have in any way appeared to have bashed Mark I apologize as that is so not my intention. I like Mark, as much as one can for being someone I don't know ;-) and would never want to, as you say, drag a best mate of yours through the mud. I think the way you said it was best about his differing talents in the group. I made the greivous error of posting about things I didn't really feel, to blow off steam about things in real life I couldn't yell at. And that's bollocks, any way one cuts it. I'm laying off this list for a while, feel free to send along the gig reports to me privately as I may not be reading or responding to this list as often as I have in the past. After reading 52 messages of people being terrible to each other and having two of my fave list mates unsub, I'm kind of tired. - -- Leslie O. "People around the world want the same thing- wanting to love and be loved. The rest is just bulls---" Basia, Melody Maker, 1990 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:26:12 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Dizzy in Glenside from a kiss! Fred, yes I am a member but I miss more shows than I attend. I'm afraid I won't be able to see Peter White. Shame. He's so good. By the way, if Basia had helped me to my car I'd have passed out. And my wife doesn't drive. LOL. Seats in JJ are great. There are no bad seats at the Keswick. You know it used to be a movie theater. I sure hope it won't be too long before Basia and MB return. I may not be here in another 10 years. LOL Thanks for your correspondence. Good luck in the future. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:27:29 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Mark Reilly And you shoot off your mouth not knowing who has e-mailed me about you. Very omnicient of you. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:28:14 EDT From: PParm16424@aol.com Subject: Amy Leaving? Amy, I can understand you wanting to leave this list, but I do hope you will take your time. We need more individuals here like you, not less. This too shall pass. Phil P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:35:55 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Everyone... Leslie, you have access to all the e-mails. Please point out the e-mail where I've made an all out attack on Mark or the band. I don't believe I've done so. I believe my critiques have been reasonable and fair. Does that mean I should suffer boorish idiots like Billy R.? I don't think so. As a matter of fact I don't really recall reading any all-out attacks on the band. Anyway, please show me where I'm incorrect. Thank you! ~Joe~ In a message dated 4/18/05 12:23:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, marzenie_99@yahoo.com writes: > It's not a fan club list obviously. But there's a diff > between a critical review and an all out attack. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:40:05 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: Everyone... I was willing to lay off of Joey to keep people on the list, but J3SITE would rather come here to beat me up, literally. So if I have offended anyone, other than the two immature fatheads I have been having a disagreement with, I apologize. Quoting Leslie Osborn : > > Bloody hell! > > I don't participate on the other Basia list because > the vibe was so bad, and now here on smoe and it's ten > times worse! What is a sane Basia fan to do? > > Do you guys have any idea that I have been > recommending this list to people cruising (no pun) > BasiaWeb? No more. I would sooner lead a new fan here > than I would lead a lamb to the wolves! I truly hope > that no one reads this list from the group-- I'm > totally ashamed. > > It's not a fan club list obviously. But there's a diff > between a critical review and an all out attack. But > the attacks on here are at an all-time low. You guys > are lucky I'm not a mod on this list, and I'm a very > very liberal mod. That's how bad it is. > > Dirk-- if I have in any way appeared to have bashed > Mark I apologize as that is so not my intention. I > like Mark, as much as one can for being someone I > don't know ;-) and would never want to, as you say, > drag a best mate of yours through the mud. I think the > way you said it was best about his differing talents > in the group. I made the greivous error of posting > about things I didn't really feel, to blow off steam > about things in real life I couldn't yell at. And > that's bollocks, any way one cuts it. > > I'm laying off this list for a while, feel free to > send along the gig reports to me privately as I may > not be reading or responding to this list as often as > I have in the past. After reading 52 messages of > people being terrible to each other and having two of > my fave list mates unsub, I'm kind of tired. > > > > -- Leslie O. > > "People around the world want the same thing- > wanting to love and be loved. > The rest is just bulls---" > Basia, Melody Maker, 1990 > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:42:56 -0700 (MST) From: steve7701@theriver.com Subject: Re: Westbury Concert I couldn't agree with you more. It would be depressing if a live act did nothing but reproduce their album note-for-note. I also like it when a performer will throw in some surprising song choices. I've been a little disappointed to see the Basia/MB set list seems to be carved in stone for this tour. Has anyone notice ANY variation, especially in the older tunes Basia performs? I wish they had rehearsed 30 tunes and choose 20 before the show each night, rather than just play the same 20 at every show. Steve R. The spontanaiety of live music is so exciting. We don't really expect to hear a studio sound at a concert do we?. Otherwise just stay home and listen to the CD's, right? Sad indeed. ~Joe~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:41:29 GMT From: "Amy ODonnell" Subject: Re: Amy Leaving? Yes, as soon as I get a chance tonight I will be off the list. I can get this by talking to my family. I've had enough of this nonsense. - -- PParm16424@aol.com wrote: Amy, I can understand you wanting to leave this list, but I do hope you will take your time. We need more individuals here like you, not less. This too shall pass. Phil P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:50:45 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: RE: off on the right foot. I'm glad to hear that. Quoting Max Wellhouse : > > >The only thing I'd like to say to this cat fight is that Minneapolis gave > >Basia and Mark and Danny et al. a wonderful first night in the US. If > >they were worried about how their first concert in the US was going to go, > >we collectively should've quelled any fears. Nobody in the looby > >afterward was whinning or even had a dower look on their face. Even the > >guy sitting next to me who was giving his wife a "payback" > >concert(obviously for one he made her go to), he became a believer and a > >fan. CD and swag sales were brisk after the event and I only wish I'd had > >the time to wait out the band exiting the back of the theatre. I > >certainly hope some were able to get through and do the one-on one thing > >for the group. > > > DM&FS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:09:18 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: Everyone... Leslie, Yes please put EVERYTHING Joey has said here. "Boorish attacks" is pretty funny coming from him. Let's have it all on display. And also the other brilliant posts from JW. Let's see where they were reasonable in their comments about Mark's voice. Quoting "" : > > Leslie, you have access to all the e-mails. Please point out the e-mail where > > I've made an all out attack on Mark or the band. I don't believe I've done > so. I believe my critiques have been reasonable and fair. Does that mean I > should suffer boorish idiots like Billy R.? I don't think so. As a matter of > fact I > don't really recall reading any all-out attacks on the band. > Anyway, please show me where I'm incorrect. > Thank you! > ~Joe~ > > In a message dated 4/18/05 12:23:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > marzenie_99@yahoo.com writes: > > > > It's not a fan club list obviously. But there's a diff > > between a critical review and an all out attack. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:15:07 -0700 (PDT) From: j w Subject: Re: Mark Reilly If Basia or Mark were remotely bothered by what's been on this list, they'd be in the wrong profession. - --- Amy ODonnell wrote: > > Thank you, Dirk. I don't even know any of them and > appreciate your comments. > > Seeing as my last posts never made it to the list, > maybe this one will: I didn't join this list to read > the vitriol I've been reading, and so I'm just going > to quit the list when I get home this evening. I > know, it won't make much impact and nobody gives a > $%^& if I do, but if I wanted this kind of cr*p I'd > spend more time with my family. > > GAWD I hope they don't read this list. I'd be too > depressed to go near a freakin' stage if I were in > Basia's shoes and read the garbage that's circulated > in the last few days. > > Later. > > Amy > > -- Dr Dirk Pilat wrote: > > > I have to admit, I am utterly gobsmacked. > > I have been on this list since 1994 and even in the > good old days of > "the Roach" there has never been an outpouring of > that much > unqualified, mediocre and opinionated rubbish as in > the last 150 posts > I just had to force myself through. > > The fact that Mark, Danny and Basia are back > together is, although > purely for economic reasons (no recording contract > for Mrs B for > yonkers and sliding japanese sales for MB), very > much to applaud, > although I would have preferred to have heard Mark > Fisher's talents in > conjunction with Danny's. They have given us a quite > pleasing album > that was (expectedly) far away from milestones like > "Time and Tide" and > MB's second, self-titled album, but at least > "Ronny's Samba" is a > beautiful toetapper. With their tour they've given > thousands of pining > Basia fans a chance to see her again, albeit in > different > circumstances, but hey, better than nothing. > > If you look at the setlist, Mark Reilly was > obviously happy to > sacrifice his impressive backcatalogue of 10 Matt > Bianco albums with > Mark Fisher for Basia's rather smaller oevre, which > I wasn't surprised > about, because Mark is certainly not an egotistical > ex-celebrity. > > I have known Mark Reilly (and Mark Fisher) now since > 1999 and have > through rather weird circumstances become good > friends with them > individually (and have shared many glasses of wine > with them) and can > honestly say that I have rarely spend time with such > a humble and > unassuming genuinely nice bloke as MR. He's rather > quiet but when he > speaks up it's mostly a rather funny little quip. > He's also a pretty > good businessman and a surprisingly good musician. > He is obviously not > in the same vocal league as Basia, but, in the right > studio setup, his > voice suits the songs he choses to sing. He is also > a rather eccentric > dancer :-) > > To read on this list of how one of my best mates is > being dragged > through the mud, is - to put it gently - not very > pleasant. I'd rather > ask you to enjoy the opportunity of seeing the three > of them back > together. > > Marvel at Basia's vocal acrobatics, hop around > uncontrollably with Mark > and meditate with Danny. > > Long may it last. > > D > > Dr Dirk Pilat > Central Medical > Oamaru > New Zealand > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! 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