From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V10 #88 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Saturday, April 16 2005 Volume 10 : Number 088 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The Beacon performance [Bill Roberts ] Fw: The Beacon performance ["Steve Richardson" ] Waters of March ["Jeff Abrams" ] Re: Waters of March [PParm16424@aol.com] Re: OT: Know your state motto [Max Wellhouse ] RE: Basia at the Beacon Theater [Max Wellhouse ] Re: Waters of March [Max Wellhouse ] my two cents on the billings [ZZsaZZsa@aol.com] RE: Waters of March ["Barry" ] RE: Waters of March ["Jeff Abrams" ] Re: Implosion [j w ] Re: The Beacon performance [j w ] Re: The Beacon performance [j w ] Re: my two cents on the billings [j w ] Re: Waters of March [J3SITE@aol.com] Fw: Waters of March ["Steve Richardson" ] Re: The Beacon performance [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: Basia at the Beacon Theater [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: my two cents on the billings [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: Waters of March [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: Implosion [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: The Beacon performance [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: my two cents on the billings [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: The Beacon performance [J3SITE@aol.com] Re: Smooth Jazz [Leslie Osborn ] Re: Keswick sold out? [Leslie Osborn ] Re: Basia/Spyro Gyra [Leslie Osborn ] Re: Waters of March [Leslie Osborn ] Fwd: Fw: The Beacon performance [PParm16424@aol.com] Re: Implosion [j w ] Re: The Beacon performance [j w ] RE: Waters of March ["Jeff Abrams" ] RE: Earlier ["Steve O'Hearn" ] RE: my two cents on the billings ["Steve O'Hearn" ] RE: The Beacon performance ["Steve O'Hearn" ] RE: Keswick sold out? ["Steve O'Hearn" ] Re: Keswick sold out? ["Lonnie or Thelma" ] RE: Basia/Spyro Gyra ["Jeff Abrams" ] Re: Earlier ["Amy T. O'Donnell" ] Welcome to Basia Idol! [PParm16424@aol.com] Re: The Beacon performance [Bill Roberts ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:30:41 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: The Beacon performance > You people need to get over this syndrome that because Basia is associated > with it we cannot knock it. And people like you need to read what others have said repeatedly about what the concert was about. It wasn't a Basia concert, so get over it. It's one thing to pan what you don't like and QUITE ANOTHER to get upset that Basia acted like her loyalty to Mark was more important than changing the diapers of someone who got upset that there wasn't more of Basia's solo work in the concert. >We're supposed to be so grateful at > seeing > Basia that we swallow whatever she comes wrapped in? As a matter of fact, YES! I have been here a while and I remember the long periods of time that we were lamenting the idea that we would never see Basia do anything again. And now that she has come back, there are too many ungrateful arses who attend the concerts and act like spoiled brats. If you or anyone else on this list complains that Basia didn't kiss your fannies and sacrifice the dignity of her bandmates to make you happy, than I don't have any respect for your opinion. It's childish, self-centered, and contrary to everything Basia has represented in her music. Furthermore I wouldn't blame Basia if the actions of her fans made her want to never record again. Why should she reward people like that by giving them what they want? From the comments I have heard, I thought she responded to the stupidity of some fans at the concert with dignity and class, which are two things some people on this list are clueless about. Quoting "" : > > You people need to get over this syndrome that because Basia is associated > with it we cannot knock it. No one should be boorish enough to act rudely at > a > concert. And I'd never condone such behavior. But we all have the right to > pan > what we didn't like...Basia or not, after we've paid to see the concert. > Theat's when we become reviewers.What? We're supposed to be so grateful at > seeing > Basia that we swallow whatever she comes wrapped in? Of course she stands up > > for her band-mates. She's first class and that's what she should do. Good for > > her. > > I thank the reviewers out there who have given their honest opinions on the > shows. We don't need to be misled by some blind allegience to Basia. Nor does > > she. > > One final word. In all honesty how many of you ever heard of Matt Bianco in > 1985? That's what I thought. There's a reason for that. Just like there's a > reason why you heard of Basia once she went solo. (Not that working with the > > gifted Danny White could be deemed "solo"). > > Like Basia's performance if you want. Dislike O'Reilly's performance if you > want. After all, you are an adult right? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:02:17 -0700 From: "Steve Richardson" Subject: Fw: The Beacon performance Well, since you are asking....I did. I had WSAYO and really enjoyed it - before Time and Tide came out. I remember thinking, that girl singer sounds cool - why doesn't she get more lead vocals?? Steve R. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: Re: The Beacon performance > > One final word. In all honesty how many of you ever heard of Matt Bianco > in > 1985? That's what I thought. There's a reason for that. Just like there's > a > reason why you heard of Basia once she went solo. (Not that working with > the > gifted Danny White could be deemed "solo"). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 02:52:31 -0400 From: "Jeff Abrams" Subject: Waters of March I finally got a copy of "Clear Horizons" today and I have to say: "Waters of March" is the most incredible Basia song ever. Or close to it, anyway. What the heck? How did I manage to go on so long without hearing this song. I'm embarrassed, really. - --- Jeff Abrams maniac@mazdamaniac.com An escalator can never break: it can only become stairs. You would never see an Escalator Temporarily Out Of Order sign, just Escalator Temporarily Stairs. Sorry for the convenience. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of tech.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 04:42:48 EDT From: PParm16424@aol.com Subject: Re: Waters of March Now, you've challenged me, Jeff. I have not heard Clear Horizons, myself. High time, eh? Phil P. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 04:53:49 -0500 From: Max Wellhouse Subject: Re: OT: Know your state motto I have two separate memories of Nawlins, one as a young Iowa boy visiting there with his parents at a National Photographers convention in the 60's. I remember how the thermometer could still read 85 degrees at 10 PM at the FountainBlue hotel.. The other was in 1975 I think, after moving to Arkansas in 1973. I was attending what I assumed was the first convert ever in the newly built Louisiana Super Dome; a 4 band bill(12 hour marathon) with Wet Willie(or maybe it was Elvin Bishop), Marshall Tucker Band, Charlie Daniels Band, and....(drum roll) .. The Alleman Brothers(after the deaths of Duane Alleman and Berry Oakley). I think the ticket was $15, which back then was unheard of for a concert and of course I rationalized by thinking there were 4 bands and 12 hours of music. They guessed that there were 75,000 in attendance and 90% were stoned out of their minds. Second hand smoke was unavoidable. The venue ran out of food by 4PM(coincidence?) Before the concert, I did tour Bourbon St. and Tolouse St. etc, and took pictures of the above ground graves and all. Except for being famished after the concert, it was a positive experience. May never get back there and have no desire to celebrate Fat Tuesday, but I'm glad some folks enjoy it.. DM&FS At 11:25 AM 4/15/2005, Amy ODonnell wrote: >Hey, if y'all want something funnier than that. . .here in Houston there >is a commercial running to advertise New Orleans as a tourist >destination. I've not seen it yet, but I've heard about it. Shows this >couple happily strolling around Jackson Square (in the French Quarter, >where most people end up and think they've "seen New Orleans") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:12:59 -0500 From: Max Wellhouse Subject: RE: Basia at the Beacon Theater The only smooth jazz station I've ever heard tthat had a consistent flow of good smooth jazz was the 95.5 station in Chicago WNUA or KNUA, I don't remember. The KJZI 100.3 in Minneapolis was playing a Chris Botti tune and following it with Otis Redding singing " Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay". It's like they're not committed to the format. It seems this station has changed formats a lot since 1998. Still haven't figured which format Basia would fall into. Adult Contemporary doesn't do her justice. DM&FS At 11:52 AM 4/15/2005, Leslie Osborn wrote: > > Having said that - I'm sure the reason for the > > un-sold-out events is simply > > P.R. She's been out of circulation for over ten > > years, and there's been no > > big national American media attention to her > > 'return'. To top it all off, > > how many Basia fans ever heard of Matt Bianco, > > really? Were it not for this > > listserv, I would never have known the connection. > > A "Matt Bianco" > > announcement in a local City Paper may just as well > > have been some random > > local band for all I knew. And yet I still listen > > to TAT and LWNY and TSI > > and BoB *** all *** the time, more than any other > > CD's I own, even today. > >IMHO, the problems: >--no one knows who the hell MB is, exactly >--their album is proving to be a very very slow burn, >as far as exposure, unless you have Sirius! I think if >they waited a few more months, this problem would be >eased a bit >--their promoters suck big time. There have been so >many and if someone can explain more about this, >please do, but they all seem like they can't be >bothered. >--not to mention this whole Matt Bianco featuring >Basia thing is effing confusing to the average person. >--smooth jazz stations are giving less than a shit >about it, just like they did TSI. This grinds me to no >end. They are too busy playing ancient songs and their >chart is full of song that have been on for two years. >And Kenny G. > > > I'm with the National Press Club in DC, and > > periodically edit the newsletter > > there - I did our issue just last week, and covered > > the Angelina Jolie > > appearance a few weeks before that. The people > > there who know Basia didn't > > know she was "back" - so if the media doesn't know, > > how will anyone else? > >Lordy! We ARE hosed! > >Pessimistically (remember, good tickets can STILL be >had in Cupertino!), >Leslie O. > > > >__________________________________ >Yahoo! Mail Mobile >Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:55:04 -0500 From: Max Wellhouse Subject: Re: Waters of March I must admit that Clear Horizons was my first Basia purchase, but not my first exposure. I was visiting a friend in Baltimore area in mid 90's and cruised their CD collection and sampled a Basia CD(prolly LWNY) and liked it, but it was one ofthose situations where the $13 and a record store being a 2 blocks away didn't happen and it was sometime again before a serious cruising of a Best Buy CD collection stumbled upon CH. It slowly grew on me to the point where I had totally burned out my wife on Basia music. The purchase of the other albums and anything else I could get my hands on via ebay were active pursuits. I can truly say that like Gordon Lightfoot, there is no one song of Basia's that is a "head and shoulders above the rest" favorite, but rather a dozen or so that are all equally terrific. DM&FS At 03:42 AM 4/16/2005, PParm16424@aol.com wrote: >Now, you've challenged me, Jeff. I have not heard Clear Horizons, myself. >High time, eh? > >Phil P. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:02:58 EDT From: ZZsaZZsa@aol.com Subject: my two cents on the billings In Chicago, they were billed as "Basia: Featuring Matt Bianco." Because of this list, I know the real deal. Had I not known this, I would have been very disappointed since it was clearly the other way around. I don't know how the other concerts were billed, but maybe that is why the audience wasn't as warm to MB songs. That being said, the Chicago crowd was VERY nice and well behaved! As for the promotion of this tour....sigh.....Basia and Spyro Gyra (sp??) were able to fill a MUCH larger venue here back in 1994. - -Sheryl (not liking all the talk that this might be Basia's last tour) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:05:41 -0500 From: "Barry" Subject: RE: Waters of March Wow, I shouldn't be surprised that people are still discovering Basia, it's just natural. But I am surprised anyway. She is so phenomenal. If the major labels had a decent brain they would've promoted her much more and she would be a mega star at this point. She'd be up there with Barbara Streisand. Alas, the morons at the labels let her slip through their fingers. I suggest getting your hands on everything Basia. I have yet to here bad music from her. She is just beyond words for me. Amazing, very special, and very unique. I could go on with pages of accolades but it would never come close to describing how I feel about her, or do her justice. OK, I'll stop before I start getting all gushy. Just suffice it to say I'm a true fan. Barry "Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:12:44 -0400 From: "Jeff Abrams" Subject: RE: Waters of March Well, you have to understand where my surprise comes from. I HAVE everything Basia. Clear Horizons was not in my possession because it was just a best-of and I had the other original tunes. I've seen her perform more than a half dozen times in the past 17 years and she never covered this Jobim tune live. It just caught me off guard. - --- Jeff Abrams maniac@mazdamaniac.com There are six ducks out here, and they all want Sun Chips! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 10:06 AM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: RE: Waters of March Wow, I shouldn't be surprised that people are still discovering Basia, it's just natural. But I am surprised anyway. She is so phenomenal. If the major labels had a decent brain they would've promoted her much more and she would be a mega star at this point. She'd be up there with Barbara Streisand. Alas, the morons at the labels let her slip through their fingers. I suggest getting your hands on everything Basia. I have yet to here bad music from her. She is just beyond words for me. Amazing, very special, and very unique. I could go on with pages of accolades but it would never come close to describing how I feel about her, or do her justice. OK, I'll stop before I start getting all gushy. Just suffice it to say I'm a true fan. Barry "Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:27:24 -0700 (PDT) From: j w Subject: Re: Implosion - --- 49ersphil <49ersphil@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > The writers of some of the just plain nasty comments > toward Mark R should > be boiled in oil for some of the putrid claptrap > they came out with. I'm guessing that's aimed at me, though others might qualify as well. However colorfully I worded my criticism of him, it was all on point and specific. It wasn't personal. And I never condemned him to be boiled in oil, a luxury you don't afford his critics apparently. > I am (believe it or not) a Basia fan first and > foremost but cannot let this > Redneck-like vilification of Mark and MB continue > without comment. Redneck-like? I criticized his voice (many have). I criticized his stage presence (many have). I did these things not because I hate him personally, but because I think his voice is atrocious. There's no axe to grind here. Furthermore, my wife, who had never heard of him, literally shook her head during the songs he sang lead. If you don't like my criticisms, address them specifically. Refute them. Don't resort to pathetic namecalling. Even at its harshest, the smart ass stuff I aimed at Reilly all tied in directly to real criticism of his voice and stage presence. > Please, folks, try to see the bigger picture. The > world extends way beyond > your backyard and we really do not need this > infighting. > > 49ersphil This is fascinating. I never had a single bad word to say about anyone on this list. You are the one that referred to me and/or others as exhibiting "redneck-like" behavior and dismissed our opinions as "putrid claptrap". Yet here you are lecturing us about infighting. Well done. Also, thank you so much for enlightening me about the world being a bigger place. My poor little brain didn't know that! Are you this pretentious and self-important in real life? __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:32:48 -0700 (PDT) From: j w Subject: Re: The Beacon performance I'll repeat this one more time. I did not criticize her for concentrating on MB material, nor did I expect the show to be mostly Basia songs. I only took her to task for what I though might have been an unrealistic and unreasonable attitude that she might have been displaying (and as I also said, it's possible she was just being kind to the band). There's nothing wrong with concentrating on new material, but don't act contemptuous of the audience if they would like to hear the stuff that made your name in the first place. Again, she was probably just putting a positive face on the new material to protect the feelings of the band, but at the time, it felt more like, "You uncultured Plebians need to let go of the only music you know me by and take your Matt Bianco medicine." - --- "Dennis J. Majewicz" wrote: > > In all fairness, this IS a "Matt Bianco featuring > Basia" tour tied to > promoting the new CD. I would expect the bulk of the > performance to be new > songs with some old sprinkled in. She would be > foolish not to acknowledge > that her solo career brought her great success, but > this is 2005, not the > early 90's, and she has moved on. Her new work is > obviously the prime focus > now. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:44:31 -0700 (PDT) From: j w Subject: Re: The Beacon performance - --- Bill Roberts wrote: > > Quoting j w : > Obviously you missed my point. Maybe you didn't ACT > that way at the concert, > but the people who did have the same attitude as > you. So you didn't act like a > jerk at the concert,even though your attitude > towards Mark, on this list, is > rather negative. What do you want, a prize? I didn't ask for a prize or praise. I corrected the impression that I or anyone else at the Cleveland show was rude to Mark. I'm getting really tired of answering to stuff that I didn't say. > It should just make you > appreciate Basia's solo work > more, not to give some lame criticism about Basia > being loyal to her > bandmates. Have you any idea how difficult and > tense things could get in the > band, if Basia started acting like it was all about > her? Geez. Give it a rest. She can be loyal to her bandmates without being slightly snotty to the audience. If I had been her, I wouldn't have said anything. Do the songs and act like it's not an issue. You also aren't giving much credit to the band. How stupid do you think they are? They aren't blind, I'm sure they can all read. They know how popular she is in this country and they know that the crowds are Basia fans first and Matt Bianco fans second (if at all). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:47:49 -0700 (PDT) From: j w Subject: Re: my two cents on the billings They were billed the same way in Cleveland. Obviously this is why the first thing out of Basia's mouth that wasn't a song was the explanation that this was a Matt Bianco tour (which was fine) followed by the seemingly, "Yeah, we'll do a few old songs to placate you simpletons *sigh*," (not fine). - --- ZZsaZZsa@aol.com wrote: > > In Chicago, they were billed as "Basia: Featuring > Matt Bianco." > Because of this list, I know the real deal. > Had I not known this, I would have been very > disappointed since it was > clearly the other way around. > > I don't know how the other concerts were billed, but > maybe that is why the > audience wasn't as warm to MB songs. > > That being said, the Chicago crowd was VERY nice and > well behaved! > > As for the promotion of this tour....sigh.....Basia > and Spyro Gyra (sp??) > were able to fill a MUCH larger venue here back in > 1994. > > -Sheryl > (not liking all the talk that this might be Basia's > last tour) > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:24:13 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Waters of March I too love Basia's version of this song. I also recommend that you treat yourself to the version by it's creator, Antonio Carlos Jobim with Ellis Regina. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:25:13 -0700 From: "Steve Richardson" Subject: Fw: Waters of March At the risk of seeming heretical, Basia's version is only my second favorite recording of "Waters of March." I think Jane Monheit has really made the song her own. Seems to be almost an anthem for her, as she put it on both of her live DVD's, the only song that is repeated, I believe. Steve R. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Abrams" To: "Basia@Smoe. Org" Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:52 PM Subject: Waters of March > > I finally got a copy of "Clear Horizons" today and I have to say: > > "Waters of March" is the most incredible Basia song ever. Or close to it, > anyway. What the heck? How did I manage to go on so long without hearing > this song. I'm embarrassed, really. > --- > > Jeff Abrams > maniac@mazdamaniac.com > > An escalator can never break: it can only become stairs. You would never > see > an Escalator Temporarily Out Of Order sign, just Escalator Temporarily > Stairs. Sorry for the convenience. > > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name > of tech.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:22:10 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: The Beacon performance It seems that you're stupidity is outweighed only by your lack of reading comprehension. Perhaps you shouild read my previous post more carefully, then craft your response to reflect what I've written. Dolt! ~Joe~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:31:10 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Basia at the Beacon Theater You're so right. It seems that stations just don't know what format Basia belongs in. They like her, though. I most often hear her on smooth jazz stations. That's probably the best format for her music. Stations that play Basia usually play artists like Swing Out Sister, Randy Crawford and Al Jarreau a lot, too. Basia's absence from performing or recording over the past several years caused her air time to dwindle. But now the local station, WJJZ in Philly is back to playing her daily. Same with SOS now that Corinne Drewery has decided to tour here this year. For the past five years in order to buy SOS CD's I've had to buy those incredibly high-priced "imports". Mostly from Japan. $35.00 for a CD is steep but for artists like Basia and Drewery I gladly pay it. Ads for Matt Bianco...I have two CD's for sale if anyone is interested. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:33:46 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: my two cents on the billings The show is billed that way here at The Keswick, too. It's the venue's decision because they know thier patrons are familiar with Basia. That's the only reason the shows have sold out. That probably wouldn't have happened had Basia's name not appeared at the head of the bill. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:34:38 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Waters of March ..and a true fan of impeccable taste I might add. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:38:20 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Implosion Phil, I could've warned you. There are several small minds and mini-brains here that can't understand honest critique. You have my sympathy. I agree with your ropinion concerning Mark O'Reilly's voice...I'm seing the concert tonight with an open mind. But I've already heard two CD's and I recognize talent or lack of talent when I hear it. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:39:35 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: The Beacon performance In a message dated 4/16/05 12:42:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, torgo1968@yahoo.com writes: > Her new work is > > obviously the prime focus > > now. > But not the paying customers'. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:41:12 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: my two cents on the billings Wow, Basia AND Spyro Gyra???? I'd loved to have seen that show. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:44:27 EDT From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: The Beacon performance Golly gee....do you think the band might be riding on Basia's coattails a bit? Of course they are. Would you have shelled out $100.00 to see Matt Bianco without Basia? Even if you were willing, what venue do you suppose would have booked the band? Like I've said, I have two Matt Bianco CD's for sale if you are interested. Cheap. No, really. Honest. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:13:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Smooth Jazz > You're so right. It seems that stations just don't > know what format Basia > belongs in. They like her, though. I most often hear > her on smooth jazz stations. > That's probably the best format for her music. > Stations that play Basia > usually play artists like Swing Out Sister, Randy > Crawford and Al Jarreau a lot, > too. Basia's absence from performing or recording > over the past several years > caused her air time to dwindle. But now the local > station, WJJZ in Philly is > back to playing her daily. Same with SOS now that > Corinne Drewery has decided to > tour here this year. 2005 is The Year for fabulous returning European retro-jazzy-bossa-nova-y singers! As much as I think Smooth Jazz is crap, I have found a use for it, admittedly. I have our local station KJZY on in the morning (partly so I can hear if the Petaluma River bridge is blocked by an accident!) so it's music for the morning, but not too intense for 5:45am. I also use it to avoid impending road rage. I do have a temper. ;-P I don'tthink I would have such a problem with it if their playlists were more organic and less dictated, if they had not so many bland cover songs, and if they didnt play oldies that have nothing to do with jazz of any form The thing with Basia is that she is actually a foundation artist of it's forerunner, New Adult Contemporary/Contemporary Jazz. One term is dead, the other now means something totally different. A great perspective on this can be had on the Smooth Jazz News website, she is the cover story this month http://www.smoothjazznews.com/cover_story/ - --LO Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:14:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Keswick sold out? > The show is billed that way here at The Keswick, > too. It's the venue's > decision because they know thier patrons are > familiar with Basia. That's the only > reason the shows have sold out. That probably > wouldn't have happened had Basia's > name not appeared at the head of the bill. It's sold out? I went to their site and it didnt say, but you probably know more than they have time to update at this point! I'd really like to note this on the front page if its so! - --LO Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:15:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Basia/Spyro Gyra - --- J3SITE@aol.com wrote: > > Wow, Basia AND Spyro Gyra???? I'd loved to have seen > that show. It was AWESOME. I was dreading SG but at the end of their set, I was a believer! - --LO __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:16:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Waters of March > At the risk of seeming heretical, Basia's version is > only my second favorite > recording of "Waters of March." Mine too.. my favorite is by Marisa Monte and David Bryne! __LO __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:27:15 EDT From: PParm16424@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Fw: The Beacon performance Forgive me if you have seen this before. Didn't get to my mailbox. Seems even more appropriate than when I wrote it. Phil P. Return-path: From: PParm16424@aol.com Full-name: PParm16424 Message-ID: <105.5f1a216d.2f92295e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 04:39:58 EDT Subject: Re: Fw: The Beacon performance To: steve7701@theriver.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10578 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Yeah, but isn't it cool that we have SOMETHING to talk about, disagree about, etc? With a decade of silence behind us, I suggest we take a moment to just feel good about all that IS happening, whether we like it or agree with it or not. So carry on....:) Phil P. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:49:38 -0700 (PDT) From: j w Subject: Re: Implosion For someone who likes to throw the word "dolt" around, it would help if you started quoting the posts you are referring to. Might help us tiny brained folk. - --- J3SITE@aol.com wrote: > > Phil, I could've warned you. There are several small > minds and mini-brains > here that can't understand honest critique. You have > my sympathy. I agree with > your ropinion concerning Mark O'Reilly's voice...I'm > seing the concert tonight > with an open mind. But I've already heard two CD's > and I recognize talent or > lack of talent when I hear it. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:50:34 -0700 (PDT) From: j w Subject: Re: The Beacon performance And here, again coming from someone tossing around the word "dolt", you quoted me when I didn't say it. - --- J3SITE@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/16/05 12:42:37 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, > torgo1968@yahoo.com writes: > > > > Her new work is > > > obviously the prime focus > > > now. > > > > But not the paying customers'. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:17:59 -0400 From: "Jeff Abrams" Subject: RE: Waters of March I have it. It is totally different and that is my point. - --- Jeff Abrams maniac@mazdamaniac.com I had a bag of fritos, they were texas grilled fritos. These fritos had grill marks on them. They remind me of something, when we used to fire up the barbeque and throw down some fritos. I can still see my dad with the apron on, better flip that frito, dad, you know how I like mine. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of J3SITE@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 2:24 PM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: Waters of March I too love Basia's version of this song. I also recommend that you treat yourself to the version by it's creator, Antonio Carlos Jobim with Ellis Regina. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:05:34 -0400 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: Earlier > ... I like Mark too and I'm > looking forward to seeing him. We need to support > these guys, if not for them Basia would still be > inactive, and she wants to work this way, so that's > good enough for me. I wonder if Basia owes him money or something. Maybe he has pictures of her naked. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:05:35 -0400 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: my two cents on the billings > "Yeah, we'll do a few old songs to placate you simpletons *sigh*," She didn't really say THAT, did she? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of j w > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:48 PM > To: basia@smoe.org > Subject: Re: my two cents on the billings > > > > They were billed the same way in Cleveland. Obviously > this is why the first thing out of Basia's mouth that > wasn't a song was the explanation that this was a Matt > Bianco tour (which was fine) followed by the > seemingly, "Yeah, we'll do a few old songs to placate > you simpletons *sigh*," (not fine). > > --- ZZsaZZsa@aol.com wrote: > > > > In Chicago, they were billed as "Basia: Featuring > > Matt Bianco." > > Because of this list, I know the real deal. > > Had I not known this, I would have been very > > disappointed since it was > > clearly the other way around. > > > > I don't know how the other concerts were billed, but > > maybe that is why the > > audience wasn't as warm to MB songs. > > > > That being said, the Chicago crowd was VERY nice and > > well behaved! > > > > As for the promotion of this tour....sigh.....Basia > > and Spyro Gyra (sp??) > > were able to fill a MUCH larger venue here back in > > 1994. > > > > -Sheryl > > (not liking all the talk that this might be Basia's > > last tour) > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:05:36 -0400 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: The Beacon performance The bottom line, folks, is that Basia is free to do what she wants to do, and we - the consumer - are free to take it or leave it. Personally, I'd prefer she perform material along the lines of her own work. The MB stuff is ok to me, but not enough to make me see a concert. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > J3SITE@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 2:40 PM > To: basia@smoe.org > Subject: Re: The Beacon performance > > > > In a message dated 4/16/05 12:42:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > torgo1968@yahoo.com writes: > > > > Her new work is > > > obviously the prime focus > > > now. > > > > But not the paying customers'. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:05:40 -0400 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: Keswick sold out? I noticed the Keswick isn't selling via any of the online systems, either. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Leslie Osborn > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 3:14 PM > To: basia@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Keswick sold out? > > > > > The show is billed that way here at The Keswick, > > too. It's the venue's > > decision because they know thier patrons are > > familiar with Basia. That's the only > > reason the shows have sold out. That probably > > wouldn't have happened had Basia's > > name not appeared at the head of the bill. > > It's sold out? I went to their site and it didnt say, > but you probably know more than they have time to > update at this point! I'd really like to note this on > the front page if its so! > > --LO > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:56:32 -0400 From: "Lonnie or Thelma" Subject: Re: Keswick sold out? I just called the Keswick and they said that there are still seats available for tonight. Thelma - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve O'Hearn" To: Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 5:05 PM Subject: RE: Keswick sold out? > > I noticed the Keswick isn't selling via any of the online systems, either. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > > Leslie Osborn > > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 3:14 PM > > To: basia@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Keswick sold out? > > > > > > > > > The show is billed that way here at The Keswick, > > > too. It's the venue's > > > decision because they know thier patrons are > > > familiar with Basia. That's the only > > > reason the shows have sold out. That probably > > > wouldn't have happened had Basia's > > > name not appeared at the head of the bill. > > > > It's sold out? I went to their site and it didnt say, > > but you probably know more than they have time to > > update at this point! I'd really like to note this on > > the front page if its so! > > > > --LO > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:36:20 -0400 From: "Jeff Abrams" Subject: RE: Basia/Spyro Gyra The Broadway shows were magical in every way. Having Jay Beckenstein play with Basia's band was just a bonus. - --- Jeff Abrams maniac@mazdamaniac.com I use the word totally too much. I need to change it up and use a word that is different but has the same meaning. Mitch do you like submarine sandwhiches? All-encompassingly... - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Leslie Osborn Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 3:15 PM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: Basia/Spyro Gyra - --- J3SITE@aol.com wrote: > > Wow, Basia AND Spyro Gyra???? I'd loved to have seen > that show. It was AWESOME. I was dreading SG but at the end of their set, I was a believer! - --LO __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:06:10 -0500 From: "Amy T. O'Donnell" Subject: Re: Earlier YOU ARE TERRIBLE, STEVE! > > I wonder if Basia owes him money or something. Maybe he has > pictures of her > naked. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:20:13 EDT From: PParm16424@aol.com Subject: Welcome to Basia Idol! I think what the conflicts between individuals here are simply that the "Paula Abdul's" are upset with the demeanor and opinions of the "Simon Cowell's", with a few "Randy Jackson's" trying to keep it real. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:26:48 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: The Beacon performance Quoting j w : > . > > She can be loyal to her bandmates without being > slightly snotty to the audience. If I had been her, I > wouldn't have said anything. Do the songs and act > like it's not an issue. You also aren't giving much > credit to the band. How stupid do you think they are? > They aren't blind, I'm sure they can all read. They > know how popular she is in this country and they know > that the crowds are Basia fans first and Matt Bianco > fans second (if at all). > > > Aren't you the one who also said some in the audience were booing when a MB song was done? If so, then my points about what Basia did still stand. How am I not giving credit to the band? That doesn't make sense. If the audience was booing anything that wasn't Basia's solo material then Basia was doing the right thing saying what she did. Ignoring it would have been the wrong thing to do. Mark and the rest of the band are all human, so don't expect them to have no feelings when they are on stage night after night. You may have heard performers talk about feeding off the excitement of the audience? Well it works the other way, too. I know. ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V10 #88 ***************************