From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V10 #38 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Wednesday, February 23 2005 Volume 10 : Number 038 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: OT Beer Wars ["49ersphil" <49ersphil@tiscali.co.uk>] Re: OT Beer Wars ["Leslie O." ] Jazz Trax ["Leslie O." ] Independance Air sale for Basia shows... ["Lonnie or Thelma" ] RE: OT Beer Wars ["Barry" ] RE: OT Beer Wars ["49ersphil" <49ersphil@tiscali.co.uk>] RE: OT Beer Wars ["Barry" ] RE: OT Beer Wars [Bill Roberts ] RE: OT Beer Wars [Bill Roberts ] Fw: OT Beer Wars ["Steve Richardson" ] DEEEEEEETROIT! ["Leslie O." ] Re: Fw: OT Beer Wars [pineking@gwi.net] Re: Fw: OT Beer Wars [bcouil@comcast.net] Phoenix ["Leslie O." ] ATTN: Leslie - Matt Bianco Sirius date confusion ["Dennis J. Majewicz" ] Re: DEEEEEEETROIT! [PParm16424@aol.com] Re: Featuring . . . ["Dennis J. Majewicz" ] Re: Featuring . . . ["Leslie O." ] Re: ATTN: Leslie - Matt Bianco Sirius date confusion ["Leslie O." ] RE: OT Beer Wars ["49ersphil" <49ersphil@tiscali.co.uk>] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:47:09 +0000 From: "49ersphil" <49ersphil@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: OT Beer Wars >-- Original Message -- >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 22:10:09 -0800 (PST) >From: "Leslie O." >Subject: Re: OT Beer Wars >To: basia@smoe.org >Reply-To: basia@smoe.org > > > >Call it my naiive rarely-beer-drinkingness, but are >you guys talking about Bud when you talk about AB? A/ They're one and the same. If >so: ew. If you're gonna drink American cheapo beer, >it's gotta be Miller high life. Aw yeah. > >Now in CA, there are vastly way more beers offered in >bars than I can manage to remember but our resident >49ers sufferer ;-) is totally spot on when he says >microbrews are the way to go. After you have enough >you see the big beers as the swill they are. A/ Les-lee, Les-lee!! > >Although to be fair maybe Barry isn't in an area that >has plentiful microbrew selection-- my brother was a >bartender back in Detroit and when I named off the >major beers here he was like, no, there are only three >beers in Detroit. Heh. So not all burgs are created >equal on this front. >A/ Fear not, American dwelling brothers and sisters. Help is at hand; http://www.brewpubzone.com/Brewpubs_Microbreweries/ >Why am I talking about beer at 10:00 on a Sunday >night? Come to think of it, why the hell am I laying >out pages now as well? I guess that answers the first >q-- I could use a beer right about now. :-D > A/ You certainly could use a beer if you think it's still Sunday, even with the time difference it can only be Tuesday or Monday! A bottle of Anchor Steam Liberty Ale or Sierra Nevada Pale Ale would do you the world of good. Then a lie down. >Happy Birthday Phil! (though it's not yet here yet on >the West Coast) > A/ Thanks Leslie. I'll celebrate by finalising my trip to London for the MB gig. I just wish they'd hurry up and declare which, if any, other UK dates they're playing so I can arrange my life/time off work etc. >- > > > >> If we were on a beer related website, I'd relate the >> many crimes against >> humankind that AB are responsible for but as we >> ain't I'll just say; DRINK >> MICROBREWS-they have everything that megabrews don't >> ie. taste from top ingredients, >> time to mature and good guys running the company >> (mostly). >> >> I realise that it's my opinion etc. but I'd urge you >> to seek out good micros. >> It's well worth the effort. >> >> Phil (the birthday boy-44). >> >> >> >> >-- Original Message -- >> >From: "Barry" >> >To: >> >Subject: RE: Thanks to my pal Jaun >> >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:39:46 -0600 >> >Reply-To: basia@smoe.org >> > >> > >> > >> >> Ill-advised attacks on a great American beer, >> that sort of thing. >> > >> >The only great *American* beers come from AB, and I >> haven't seen any of >> >their products being attacked here. ;) >> > >> >Barry >> > >> > >> >"Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead >> where there is no path and >> >leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson >> >> 49ersphil >> >> >___________________________________________________________ >> >> Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. >> Cheap flights - >> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ >> Bargain holidays - >> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/ >> > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. >http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 49ersphil ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 01:05:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Leslie O." Subject: Re: OT Beer Wars > A/ You certainly could use a beer if you think it's > still Sunday, even with > the time difference it can only be Tuesday or > Monday! OMG. That's hilarious. I had Monday off (it's an American holiday, President's Day, lot of biz are closed) which explains a bit... A bottle of Anchor > Steam Liberty Ale or Sierra Nevada Pale Ale would do > you the world of good. :-D I like your line of thinking. You must know that these are part of the default settings of Bay Area beer life, particularly Sierra Nevada! > A/ Thanks Leslie. I'll celebrate by finalising my > trip to London for the > MB gig. I just wish they'd hurry up and declare > which, if any, other UK dates > they're playing so I can arrange my life/time off > work etc. ugh. Tell me about it. I was delaying my Easter trip to make sure I wouldn't miss them. Heh-- best laid plans. Still holding back for summer. The things we do... - --LO (yeah, still working) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 01:26:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Leslie O." Subject: Jazz Trax Hey, did anyone else hear last week's Jazz Trax? I linked to it on BasiaWeb so check it out. he did a super job plugging Basia. It was a sight to behold, if it were a visual medium. But. He did say Peter White was too busy to tour with Matt Bianco. Thoughts? This is just wrong to me. - --Leslie Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 06:31:49 -0500 From: "Lonnie or Thelma" Subject: Independance Air sale for Basia shows... For 3 days Independance Air has a $64 / $84 sale that might get you to a show for a great price. Be sure to look at the date that the service begins on some of the destinations. Just passing it along. Thelma ( the sooner you do it the better the options to travel for the sale price ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:53:16 EST From: J3SITE@aol.com Subject: Re: Jazz Trax Well, Peter's career is in full flight. He hasn't gone on hiatus. He probably has too many committments to allow him to interrupt his career to join Bianco/Basia on their comeback trail. Seems reasonable to me. I'm just thankful for what we're getting and looking forward to a whole lot more. A whole lot. Because this is just a nibble. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 06:48:42 -0600 From: "Kamille" Subject: Re: OT Beer Wars Doesn't Larry Carlton sell a microbrew . . . in Target? Kamille ----- Original Message ----- From: 49ersphil To: basia@smoe.org Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:23 PM Subject: OT Beer Wars Hi Barry I really like you, you're one of my favourite contributors BUT; were you serious with your praise for the AB range? If we were on a beer related website, I'd relate the many crimes against humankind that AB are responsible for but as we ain't I'll just say; DRINK MICROBREWS-they have everything that megabrews don't ie. taste from top ingredients, time to mature and good guys running the company (mostly). I realise that it's my opinion etc. but I'd urge you to seek out good micros. It's well worth the effort. Phil (the birthday boy-44). >-- Original Message -- >From: "Barry" >To: >Subject: RE: Thanks to my pal Jaun >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:39:46 -0600 >Reply-To: basia@smoe.org > > > >> Ill-advised attacks on a great American beer, that sort of thing. > >The only great *American* beers come from AB, and I haven't seen any of >their products being attacked here. ;) > >Barry > > >"Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and >leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson 49ersphil ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:14:36 -0600 From: "Barry" Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars I was just kidding, my sarcastic side coming out. ;) In reality, I don't care for any American beers (major brands). I prefer a darker beer myself. Guinness is the one I can find the easiest in restaurants and chain bars, but there are a lot of good beers out there if you go to the right places. There are some good microbrews too. Ever tried Dixie Blackened Voodoo Lager? Now THAT is some good stuff. I could go on and on about good beers. There's a bar near me called Growler's Pub, and they have (as I recall) 133 different beers from around the world. You get a card if you want, and they'll check off each one as you try them. At different levels you get shirts, beer steins, and eventually your name on a plaque on the wall saying you're a beer master (or something like that) for trying them all. There's a great grocery store across the street that has a huge row of beers too. I guess I better not blast A/B too much. Living in the hometown of A/B, and being pretty close to HQ, They might come take me away for blasphemy, treason, or something equally horrible. ;) The punishment would most certainly be being locked in a room and forced to drink their beer. Their Bacardi products aren't too bad, but that's not beer so it doesn't come in here. As far as beer goes, they don't even register on my radar. Barry "Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:42:00 +0000 From: "49ersphil" <49ersphil@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars Glad to hear that you were being ironic. You sure you're not a Brit as that's supposed to be one of our traits? "Their Bacardi products aren't too bad, but that's not beer" Neither's their "King of Beers" product as beer must contain malt and hops but Bud replaces the hops with rice..ugh..! I repeat, the USA makes some of the finest beers in the world. Enjoy them, drink Bud only when no choice exists (gigs, football games etc. alas). I'm sure MB will have the good sense to seek out the good stuff post gig. >-- Original Message -- >From: "Barry" >To: >Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars >Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:14:36 -0600 >Reply-To: basia@smoe.org > > > >I was just kidding, my sarcastic side coming out. ;) > >In reality, I don't care for any American beers (major brands). I prefer >a >darker beer myself. Guinness is the one I can find the easiest in >restaurants and chain bars, but there are a lot of good beers out there if >you go to the right places. > >There are some good microbrews too. Ever tried Dixie Blackened Voodoo >Lager? Now THAT is some good stuff. I could go on and on about good beers. >There's a bar near me called Growler's Pub, and they have (as I recall) 133 >different beers from around the world. You get a card if you want, and >they'll check off each one as you try them. At different levels you get >shirts, beer steins, and eventually your name on a plaque on the wall saying >you're a beer master (or something like that) for trying them all. There's >a great grocery store across the street that has a huge row of beers too. > >I guess I better not blast A/B too much. Living in the hometown of A/B, >and >being pretty close to HQ, They might come take me away for blasphemy, >treason, or something equally horrible. ;) The punishment would most >certainly be being locked in a room and forced to drink their beer. > >Their Bacardi products aren't too bad, but that's not beer so it doesn't >come in here. As far as beer goes, they don't even register on my radar. > >Barry > > >"Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and >leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson> 49ersphil ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:03:02 -0600 From: "Barry" Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars > You sure you're not a Brit as that's supposed to be one of our traits? I don't know, I certainly don't think I should've been born on this side of the pond. For some reason I've been drawn to Ireland for as long as I can remember. > I repeat, the USA makes some of the finest beers in the world. I do enjoy some of the microbrews that come from the States. > drink Bud only when no choice exists (gigs, football games etc. alas). Thankfully even in the home of AB, you can *usually* get other choices in the bars and restaurants. When I can't, I tend to switch from beer to something else (like gin or scotch). I can tolerate Bud Light, but only as a last resort. Or if it's free. ;) Cheers Barry "Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:22:32 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars I prefer Sharps or O'Douls. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:24:23 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars I don't see anything wrong with replacing hops with rice. I don't get why people want something so bitter in their beer. Bill Quoting 49ersphil <49ersphil@tiscali.co.uk>: > > > > "Their Bacardi products aren't too bad, but that's not beer" > Neither's their "King of Beers" product as beer must contain malt and hops > but Bud replaces the hops with rice..ugh..! > > > >-- Original Message -- > >From: "Barry" > >To: > >Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars > >Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:14:36 -0600 > >Reply-To: basia@smoe.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:12:51 -0700 From: "Steve Richardson" Subject: Fw: OT Beer Wars I think the same rule holds for beer as for sex: Even when it's bad, it's still good. Steve R. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars > >> You sure you're not a Brit as that's supposed to be one of our traits? > > I don't know, I certainly don't think I should've been born on this side > of > the pond. For some reason I've been drawn to Ireland for as long as I can > remember. > > >> I repeat, the USA makes some of the finest beers in the world. > > I do enjoy some of the microbrews that come from the States. > > >> drink Bud only when no choice exists (gigs, football games etc. alas). > > Thankfully even in the home of AB, you can *usually* get other choices in > the bars and restaurants. When I can't, I tend to switch from beer to > something else (like gin or scotch). I can tolerate Bud Light, but only > as > a last resort. Or if it's free. ;) > > Cheers > Barry > > > "Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and > leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:51:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Leslie O." Subject: DEEEEEEETROIT! My hometown is the receipiant of the latest date April 9 at the State Theatre. Whoo hoo! Too bad I can't be there, but great to see the Detroit fans getting some love! - --Leslie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:39:22 -0500 From: pineking@gwi.net Subject: Re: Fw: OT Beer Wars Truer words were never spoke. Except, have you ever tried Narragansett? Nastygansett is what we used to call it. Phew! Pabst was my Dad's beer of choice (if he wasn't sucking down a Carling's Black Label, which I think is now available only in Canada and Europe) while he watched Friday Night Fights many years ago. PBR is one of a very few non-Anheiser labels available here in New England, other than the imports and the emerging micros, most of which are very good. The only light I can tolerate is Corona's. But when "AB" is referred to, I think back to Gloucestershire, where Arkell's reigns. Unless Barry lives there, he probably doesn't know of it - they supply their 100 pubs in the region only. Barry will be interested to know top-brewing is a new phenomenon here in the US, while that is pretty much all he gets in the UK. It used to be called bock beer or something like that here, but all most Americans know is lager, and of course Bud rules the market. Guiness is very popular here as an alternative, but of course its a stout, and very different from ordinary fare. We also get Newcastle and Murphy's, and some places stock a lot of foreign brews. The advent of that CO2 tablet in the cans is a huge boost for this kind of brew, allowing us to take it home (I am a huge black and tan afficiando, and love to turn my visitors on to it). We toured the Guinness brewery in Dublin a couple of years ago - well worth it if anyone here is contemplating Ireland. While in England last year, however, I totally refrained from Guinness in favor of all the local brews - why the hell not? I confess: when Basia played Boston last time, '94, at the Harbor Lights Pavilion (thanks Bill), I stood in the Heineken line. It was the shortest. Phil H. On 22 Feb 2005 at 15:12, Steve Richardson wrote: > > I think the same rule holds for beer as for sex: Even when it's bad, it's > still good. > > Steve R. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:03 PM > Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars > > > > > >> You sure you're not a Brit as that's supposed to be one of our traits? > > > > I don't know, I certainly don't think I should've been born on this side > > of > > the pond. For some reason I've been drawn to Ireland for as long as I can > > remember. > > > > > >> I repeat, the USA makes some of the finest beers in the world. > > > > I do enjoy some of the microbrews that come from the States. > > > > > >> drink Bud only when no choice exists (gigs, football games etc. alas). > > > > Thankfully even in the home of AB, you can *usually* get other choices in > > the bars and restaurants. When I can't, I tend to switch from beer to > > something else (like gin or scotch). I can tolerate Bud Light, but only > > as > > a last resort. Or if it's free. ;) > > > > Cheers > > Barry > > > > > > "Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and > > leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:26:39 +0000 From: bcouil@comcast.net Subject: Re: Fw: OT Beer Wars I consider myself to be beer-blessed as I live in what many say is one of the two best microbrew regions in the US. Those would be the Pacific Northwest and New England. I am a true beer/ale snob and proud of it ;-) I don't drink anything from AB, Miller, or Coors - period. The microbrews we have in NE are phenomenal. Nutfield from Derry, NH and Long Trail from VT are my favorites. The Long Trail Hibernator (the current seasonal) is just wonderful. My favorite year round is Nutfield Auburn Ale. I try to switch off as often as possible and it's so nice to have Red Hook, Ipswich, Shipyard, Harpoon, Tuckerman's, and (the list goes on and on), just to name a few. And, I make a monthly pilgrimage to Redbone's in Somerville. There they have a constantly rotating selection of twenty or thirty kegs from microbrews all over the US. It's beer/ale drinkers heaven, as well as the best bbq in the Boston area. Last time there I had a Chimay Belgian Ale and a Stone Arrogant Bastard Ale. Great stuff. And, on the worst of days, I can always drink Sam Adams or get Guinness on tap in one of the many Irish pubs in this area. Guinness from a bottle or a can is just soooo wrong. When you get a Guinness in Ireland, the barkeep pulls you a pint and it sets next to the tap for several minutes and foams like hell. While this is going on you start salivating waiting for that lovely draft. Then, just when you are about to wring the bartender's neck, he brings it over to you ;-) They actually did a commercial demonstrating this process a couple of years ago. No Guiness from a bottle will behave in that proper manner. Sorry. So, life is tough. Sam Adams Winter Ale is damn good for a seasonal. This is making me thirsty. Time to head out to the market for more ale ;-) Cheers, Bill P.S. Basia, dear, we are still hoping for a stop in Boston. Please, sweetie. - -------------- Original message -------------- > > Truer words were never spoke. > Except, have you ever tried Narragansett? Nastygansett is what we used to call > it. > Phew! > Pabst was my Dad's beer of choice (if he wasn't sucking down a Carling's Black > Label, which I think is now available only in Canada and Europe) while he > watched > Friday Night Fights many years ago. PBR is one of a very few non-Anheiser labels > available here in New England, other than the imports and the emerging micros, > most of which are very good. The only light I can tolerate is Corona's. > But when "AB" is referred to, I think back to Gloucestershire, where Arkell's > reigns. > Unless Barry lives there, he probably doesn't know of it - they supply their 100 > pubs > in the region only. > Barry will be interested to know top-brewing is a new phenomenon here in the US, > while that is pretty much all he gets in the UK. It used to be called bock beer > or > something like that here, but all most Americans know is lager, and of course > Bud > rules the market. > Guiness is very popular here as an alternative, but of course its a stout, and > very > different from ordinary fare. We also get Newcastle and Murphy's, and some > places > stock a lot of foreign brews. The advent of that CO2 tablet in the cans is a > huge > boost for this kind of brew, allowing us to take it home (I am a huge black and > tan > afficiando, and love to turn my visitors on to it). > We toured the Guinness brewery in Dublin a couple of years ago - well worth it > if > anyone here is contemplating Ireland. While in England last year, however, I > totally > refrained from Guinness in favor of all the local brews - why the hell not? > I confess: when Basia played Boston last time, '94, at the Harbor Lights > Pavilion > (thanks Bill), I stood in the Heineken line. It was the shortest. > Phil H. > > On 22 Feb 2005 at 15:12, Steve Richardson wrote: > > > > > I think the same rule holds for beer as for sex: Even when it's bad, it's > > still good. > > > > Steve R. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barry" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:03 PM > > Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars > > > > > > > > > >> You sure you're not a Brit as that's supposed to be one of our traits? > > > > > > I don't know, I certainly don't think I should've been born on this side > > > of > > > the pond. For some reason I've been drawn to Ireland for as long as I can > > > remember. > > > > > > > > >> I repeat, the USA makes some of the finest beers in the world. > > > > > > I do enjoy some of the microbrews that come from the States. > > > > > > > > >> drink Bud only when no choice exists (gigs, football games etc. alas). > > > > > > Thankfully even in the home of AB, you can *usually* get other choices in > > > the bars and restaurants. When I can't, I tend to switch from beer to > > > something else (like gin or scotch). I can tolerate Bud Light, but only > > > as > > > a last resort. Or if it's free. ;) > > > > > > Cheers > > > Barry > > > > > > > > > "Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and > > > leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:45:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Leslie O." Subject: Phoenix West coast dates seem to be getting sorted! Yeah! May third, Celebrity Theatre. I LOVE the photo they used for Basia. Totally adorable. - --Leslie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:08:41 -0500 From: "Dennis J. Majewicz" Subject: ATTN: Leslie - Matt Bianco Sirius date confusion I think we're all under the impression that the date for the Sirius session with Matt Bianco is March 20th, but your link, http://www.sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/CachedPage&c=ChannelAsset&cid=994446662502 shows it as being March 19th. The Jazz Cafe link through Sirius' front page, http://www.sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/CachedPage&c=Channel&cid=1104779639967 shows a March 20th date. I wrote to one of the stream jockeys for clarification and he says March 19th: >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: "Dennis J. Majewicz" >Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:29 PM >Subject: Re: Talk To Us Request > > > >PS Forgot to mention Matt Bianco is scheduled for March 19, 9PM ET on Jazz >Cafe..thanks >& sorry for any confusion. > >-- >Ron West >Noon-6P ET >Jazz Cafe 71 >Sirius Satellite Radio I'm still confused, so I wrote back and am awaiting a reply. I'll let you know what the answer is. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:04:50 -0500 From: pineking@gwi.net Subject: Re: Fw: OT Beer Wars Yes, you think you have been forgotten. But she always comes back with your glass. Go to O'Connell's in Doolin, if you want food, brew, and music. Three hours south of Galway, if you don't stop and take in the scenery. Each night a different band, all superb. Beyond that, the Cliffs of Moher. Unforgettable. Phil H. On 23 Feb 2005 at 0:26, bcouil@comcast.net wrote: > > I consider myself to be beer-blessed as I live in what many say is one of the two best microbrew regions in the US. Those would be the Pacific Northwest and New England. I am a true beer/ale snob and proud of it ;-) I don't drink anything from AB, Miller, or Coors - period. The microbrews we have in NE are phenomenal. Nutfield from Derry, NH and Long Trail from VT are my favorites. The Long Trail Hibernator (the current seasonal) is just wonderful. > My favorite year round is Nutfield Auburn Ale. I try to switch off as often as possible and it's so nice to have Red Hook, Ipswich, Shipyard, Harpoon, Tuckerman's, and (the list goes on and on), just to name a few. And, I make a monthly pilgrimage to Redbone's in Somerville. There they have a constantly rotating selection of twenty or thirty kegs from microbrews all over the US. It's beer/ale drinkers heaven, as well as the best bbq in the Boston area. Last time there I had a Chimay Belgian Ale and a Stone Arrogant Bastard Ale. Great stuff. And, on the worst of days, I can always drink Sam Adams or get Guinness on tap in one of the many Irish pubs in this area. Guinness from a bottle or a can is just soooo wrong. When you get a Guinness in Ireland, the barkeep pulls you a pint and it sets next to the tap for several minutes and foams like hell. While this is going on you start salivating waiting for that lovely draft. Then, just wh! > en you are about to wring the bartender's neck, he brings it over to you ;-) They actually did a commercial demonstrating this process a couple of years ago. No Guiness from a bottle will behave in that proper manner. Sorry. So, life is tough. Sam Adams Winter Ale is damn good for a seasonal. > This is making me thirsty. Time to head out to the market for more ale ;-) > > Cheers, > Bill > > P.S. Basia, dear, we are still hoping for a stop in Boston. Please, sweetie. > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > Truer words were never spoke. > > Except, have you ever tried Narragansett? Nastygansett is what we used to call > > it. > > Phew! > > Pabst was my Dad's beer of choice (if he wasn't sucking down a Carling's Black > > Label, which I think is now available only in Canada and Europe) while he > > watched > > Friday Night Fights many years ago. PBR is one of a very few non-Anheiser labels > > available here in New England, other than the imports and the emerging micros, > > most of which are very good. The only light I can tolerate is Corona's. > > But when "AB" is referred to, I think back to Gloucestershire, where Arkell's > > reigns. > > Unless Barry lives there, he probably doesn't know of it - they supply their 100 > > pubs > > in the region only. > > Barry will be interested to know top-brewing is a new phenomenon here in the US, > > while that is pretty much all he gets in the UK. It used to be called bock beer > > or > > something like that here, but all most Americans know is lager, and of course > > Bud > > rules the market. > > Guiness is very popular here as an alternative, but of course its a stout, and > > very > > different from ordinary fare. We also get Newcastle and Murphy's, and some > > places > > stock a lot of foreign brews. The advent of that CO2 tablet in the cans is a > > huge > > boost for this kind of brew, allowing us to take it home (I am a huge black and > > tan > > afficiando, and love to turn my visitors on to it). > > We toured the Guinness brewery in Dublin a couple of years ago - well worth it > > if > > anyone here is contemplating Ireland. While in England last year, however, I > > totally > > refrained from Guinness in favor of all the local brews - why the hell not? > > I confess: when Basia played Boston last time, '94, at the Harbor Lights > > Pavilion > > (thanks Bill), I stood in the Heineken line. It was the shortest. > > Phil H. > > > > On 22 Feb 2005 at 15:12, Steve Richardson wrote: > > > > > > > > I think the same rule holds for beer as for sex: Even when it's bad, it's > > > still good. > > > > > > Steve R. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Barry" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:03 PM > > > Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> You sure you're not a Brit as that's supposed to be one of our traits? > > > > > > > > I don't know, I certainly don't think I should've been born on this side > > > > of > > > > the pond. For some reason I've been drawn to Ireland for as long as I can > > > > remember. > > > > > > > > > > > >> I repeat, the USA makes some of the finest beers in the world. > > > > > > > > I do enjoy some of the microbrews that come from the States. > > > > > > > > > > > >> drink Bud only when no choice exists (gigs, football games etc. alas). > > > > > > > > Thankfully even in the home of AB, you can *usually* get other choices in > > > > the bars and restaurants. When I can't, I tend to switch from beer to > > > > something else (like gin or scotch). I can tolerate Bud Light, but only > > > > as > > > > a last resort. Or if it's free. ;) > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Barry > > > > > > > > > > > > "Do not go where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and > > > > leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:23:11 -0500 From: "Joe Palcher" Subject: Featuring . . . I don't really get this "Matt Bianco Featuring Basia" stuff. Or "Basia Featuring Matt Bianco." I guess they are trying to get the group Matt Bianco known by using Basia's name, which is more well known in the States? Maybe they think they have to spell it out for us dummies from the US. I don't think they have done this in other areas of the world. Or does this mean that Basia will be doing a lot of her solo songs in the concert? I wonder if they will be playing Matt Bianco songs that Basia didn't originally participate on. Here's my two cents on the Basia Beer Wars . . . Warsteiner all the way, baby! Not a fan of North American beers at all because they are too watery--except maybe for Sam Adams. I don't like beer to light, and Warsteiner has a perfect heavy flavor for it. Unfortunately, most of the bars I go to don't have it so I have to go with my old standbys Beck or Heineken. I also like the Japanese beers Kirin, Sapporo, and Asahi (but not Suntory!). Canada has a great beer in Sleemans, but unfortunately I have never seen in the States. Oh! Canada came up with a great system for beer stores! It's called "The Beer Store." You tell the cashier what beer you want, they yell it back on the intercom, and the workers in the warehouse push your 6, 12, or 24-pack ice cold down a roller conveyor. So ready to drink! So convenient for the lazy drinker who can't go to the store, put in in their cart, and push it up to the cashier themselves. raburabu joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:24:38 EST From: PParm16424@aol.com Subject: Re: DEEEEEEETROIT! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Phil P. (in Lansing) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:07:48 -0500 From: "Dennis J. Majewicz" Subject: Re: Featuring . . . > Canada has a great beer in Sleemans, but unfortunately I have > never seen in the States. > I don't drink beer much anymore, but Sleeman's is excellent! So easy to find in Buffalo, too. Even the average supermarket here has it. And much cheaper than in Canada. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:46:29 -0800 (PST) From: "Leslie O." Subject: Re: Featuring . . . > I don't really get this "Matt Bianco Featuring > Basia" stuff. Or "Basia > Featuring Matt Bianco." I guess they are trying to > get the group Matt > Bianco known by using Basia's name, which is more > well known in the States? Bingo. I think you are right. They are trying to get people to come out and they know really that they want to see Basia. They gotta make a living. I believe (somebody correct me if not) that the promoter or venue can decide how to bill it? Which may be why we are seeing all these "basia" shows poppling up when it is really matt bianco. > Maybe they think they have to spell it out for us > dummies from the US. I > don't think they have done this in other areas of > the world. That is because it's the reverse situation in the rest of the world (except for Japan): they don't know Basia but they do know Matt Bianco. In most cases. That's all. > Or does this mean that Basia will be doing a lot of > her solo songs in the > concert? I wonder if they will be playing Matt > Bianco songs that Basia > didn't originally participate on. Check out the transcription of the last Radio Hey Now interview on BasiaWeb-- she says that in the US they are going to do mostly MM songs, three WSAYO songs and in the US some Basia songs. Highly highly doubt about the Reilly/Fisher material being performed. Godspeed to poor Mark-- he's gonna end up being The Other Guy once they get over here, which kinda sucks for him I'm sure. - --Leslie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:48:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Leslie O." Subject: Re: ATTN: Leslie - Matt Bianco Sirius date confusion Reminds me of the continuing March1/March8 issue! Blimey! Thanks for looking into it Dennis. :-D - --leslie, needs a clone __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:23:53 -0700 From: "Steve Richardson" Subject: Fw: Phoenix Thanks. Leslie - NOW I"M EXCITED! Tickets on sale this Saturday...I notice it's in the round, unlike her previous shows there. Not totally thrilled with that, but it probably means they'll only use the closer sections...no bad seats. Did you notice - Peter White is at the Celeb Theatre eleven days later...with "Jazz Attack" group, PW, Richard Elliott, Rick Braun, etc. Too bad he can't be with Matt Bianco, but such is life. Steve R. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie O." To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:45 PM Subject: Phoenix > > West coast dates seem to be getting sorted! Yeah! > > May third, Celebrity Theatre. I LOVE the photo they > used for Basia. Totally adorable. > > --Leslie > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:11:59 +0000 From: "49ersphil" <49ersphil@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars Bill The result would not strictly speaking be beer. If such a product was brewed in Germany (Beer Heaven) it would not be allowed to call itself beer by the Reineitsgebot purity law. Hops, Malted grain, water, yeast. That's it. Thats not to say that the addition of another ingredient or two makes for a bad drink, eg. I love Belgian Kriek (made with the addition of cherries) and to each their own, but I have a problem with the world's major MacroBrewers (incl. A-Busch) who buy up the competition then dumb down their products so they lose consumer favour, discontinue the beer in question citing "falling sales" then replace it in the marketplace with heavily advertised global brands (Bud/Stella Artois/Heineken etc.). Such a shame that market forces reduces choice and destroys heritage and choice. The same market forces nearly forced Basia out of music until recently, lest we forget. - -- Original Message -- >Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:24:23 -0500 >From: Bill Roberts >To: "" >Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars >Reply-To: basia@smoe.org > > > >I don't see anything wrong with replacing hops with rice. I don't get why > >people want something so bitter in their beer. > >Bill > >Quoting 49ersphil <49ersphil@tiscali.co.uk>: > >> >> > >> "Their Bacardi products aren't too bad, but that's not beer" >> Neither's their "King of Beers" product as beer must contain malt and hops >> but Bud replaces the hops with rice..ugh..! >> >> > >-- Original Message -- >> >From: "Barry" >> >To: >> >Subject: RE: OT Beer Wars >> >Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:14:36 -0600 >> >Reply-To: basia@smoe.org 49ersphil ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/ ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V10 #38 ***************************