From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V9 #145 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Thursday, July 29 2004 Volume 09 : Number 145 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: German Show: bit shocked [PParm16424@aol.com] RE: German Show: bit shocked ["Steve O'Hearn" ] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Re:_German_Show:_bit_shocked?= [] Re: German Show: bit shocked ["Leslie O." ] Re:_Re:_German_Show:_bit_shocked ["Leslie O." ] Live / German Show ["Dutchmarc" ] Re: German Show: bit shocked [PParm16424@aol.com] Re:_Re:_German_Show:_bit_shocked [pineking@gwi.net] Could it have been the monitors? ["Steve O'Hearn" ] Re: Could it have been the monitors? ["Barry" ] RE: German Show: bit shocked ["Steve O'Hearn" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:47:21 EDT From: PParm16424@aol.com Subject: Re: German Show: bit shocked Leslie, I don't know if it is the same Tonight Show as what you saw, but I have a recording of one where Basia sang "Run For Cover" on VHS. She did indeed hit a high note that was not pleasant, perhaps her voice cracked or something, but it wasn't pleasant anyway. Someone here said she had a "thing" for David Letterman and perhaps she was extra nervous? Who knows. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:15:36 -0400 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: German Show: bit shocked So what exactly was wrong with her performance? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of PParm16424@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:47 AM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: German Show: bit shocked Leslie, I don't know if it is the same Tonight Show as what you saw, but I have a recording of one where Basia sang "Run For Cover" on VHS. She did indeed hit a high note that was not pleasant, perhaps her voice cracked or something, but it wasn't pleasant anyway. Someone here said she had a "thing" for David Letterman and perhaps she was extra nervous? Who knows. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:04:04 +0200 From: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Re:_German_Show:_bit_shocked?= Here's what I think happened. Anke was wearing a wireless mic (lapel mic) for her talk show host duties - it's concealed under her clothes. When she was singing, she used a hand mic. I suspect the audio engineer left both mics on, so that she was louder than Basia and Mark. For many reasons, TV studios are not the best places for musical performances. The audio for a TV chat show is not nearly as demanding as for a musical performance. Additionally, Basia records multiple levels of her voice and uses effects on them in the studio. That's not possible to duplicate live, so Basia live will always sound different than Basia on CD. Still, Ordinary Day has a part that seems to get above Basia's best vocal range. It sounds thin on the CD and sounded worse live. Go work on your head voice, girl. As for the nose rubbing, as the guest was being introduced, Anke ran over and spun a wheel. It stopped on "Eskimo-kuss." I suspect the rest of the choices on the wheel set out other ways she could great the guest - this time she used and Eskimo Kiss. un abrazo, juan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:47:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Leslie O." Subject: Re: German Show: bit shocked > I don't know if it is the same Tonight Show as what > you saw, but I have a > recording of one where Basia sang "Run For Cover" on > VHS. She did indeed hit a > high note that was not pleasant, perhaps her voice > cracked or something, but it > wasn't pleasant anyway. Nope, it was when she was singing "Drunk On Love." I know the one you mean though. See, historically, Basia + TV=no. Unless she's talking that is, in which case I could watch her for hours. Someone here said she had a > "thing" for David > Letterman and perhaps she was extra nervous? Who > knows. Yeah, but she said that a LOT later. So I don't think that was a factor. - --Leslie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:53:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Leslie O." Subject: Re:_Re:_German_Show:_bit_shocked > Here's what I think happened. Anke was wearing a > wireless mic (lapel > mic) for her talk show host duties - it's concealed > under her clothes. > When she was singing, she used a hand mic. I suspect > the audio engineer > left both mics on, so that she was louder than Basia > and Mark. AAAH. That explains it entirely. Didn't think of that, what with the Eskimo business and the Sperm Race and all. (German TV: WTF?!) > Still, Ordinary Day has a part that seems to get > above Basia's best > vocal range. It sounds thin on the CD and sounded > worse live. Go work > on your head voice, girl. The part right before the piano break, huh. Yeah. Oh, the video is up on the MB official site, and Basia looks freaking awesome in it, so I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY COMPLAINTS. ;-D - --Leslie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:20:44 +0200 From: "Dutchmarc" Subject: Live / German Show > > It was interesting to hear Mark say this was their > > first live > > performance ever. I thought they had performed as > > Matt Bianco somewhere > > back in 1984. > > Yup. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp2/videoclips/date/1984/ Maby they meant live, with live vocals and instruments. I remember them perform for the "platen -10-daagse", a Dutch show to promote artists and records-sales. That was about 20 years ago. Basia was miming the song and Mark sung live. Maby that why that one doesn't count... / >Cheating? How so? How does one cheat with their voice? She was bending note's, singing them in a safer (lower?) key than they we're originally written in (well that's my first impression / maby have to check again). Marcus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:36:43 EDT From: PParm16424@aol.com Subject: Re: German Show: bit shocked It was just a quick high note that didn't make it's intended destination towards the end of "Run For Cover". Otherwise, it was great. Paul Schafer played along on the piano with the band. David Letterman referred to her (before she came out) as an "evil genius", not really emphasizing the "evil" part, but more of the "genius" part. Don Rickles was the guest before Basia. Bought the tape on eBay, somehow thinking it was an official copy from the show, but turned out to be a bootleg copy off someone's TV, and not a very clear one at that. I was not amused, but still glad to see our lady in action. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:02:49 -0400 From: pineking@gwi.net Subject: Re:_Re:_German_Show:_bit_shocked I cruised thru Anke's musik archivs, and noticed the program featuring Jamie Cullem, the British pop/jazz phenom, and listened to both the interview, which was crisp, and then the music, which was muffled. I think the audio loss is intentional, to discourage piracy potential? I sure wish Anke's show was available here in the States, BTW. Phil Hall > > > Here's what I think happened. Anke was wearing a > > wireless mic (lapel > > mic) for her talk show host duties - it's concealed > > under her clothes. > > When she was singing, she used a hand mic. I suspect > > the audio engineer > > left both mics on, so that she was louder than Basia > > and Mark. > > AAAH. That explains it entirely. Didn't think of that, > what with the Eskimo business and the Sperm Race and > all. (German TV: WTF?!) > > > Still, Ordinary Day has a part that seems to get > > above Basia's best > > vocal range. It sounds thin on the CD and sounded > > worse live. Go work > > on your head voice, girl. > > The part right before the piano break, huh. Yeah. > > Oh, the video is up on the MB official site, and Basia > looks freaking awesome in it, so I DON'T WANT TO HEAR > ANY COMPLAINTS. ;-D > > --Leslie > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:12:14 -0400 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: Could it have been the monitors? I didn't see the show, but I've seen similar situations before. It could be simply that her monitors weren't working correctly - monitors are the speakers that point back to a vocalist so she can hear (a) the music that's accompanying her, and (b) her own voice with it. If the mix between the two is bad, or if they are too quiet and all she can here is percussion instruments, or whatever - then a vocalist will lose the ability to control her voice relative to the music. Remember when the Rolling Stones were on Saturday Night Live many years ago, and Mick Jagger was absolutely horrendous - the rumor was that the monitors fried. I once watched American Idol and saw as a vocalist moved physically away from the area where the monitors were pointing - and every time she did, she got off pitch and unsure in her voice. I was in a band in college (paid my tuition with it) and experienced first hand how important they are. Just a thought. - - Steve - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Dutchmarc Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:57 PM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: German Show: bit shocked What happened to Basia's voice? Was she nervous. Not fit? Did she lost 'it'? She was cheating a lot to make the songs sound right. Was a little bit frightning... Marcus Amsterdam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:30:43 -0500 From: "Barry" Subject: Re: Could it have been the monitors? There was also one year that Aerosmith was performing live at the Oscars (or one of the big awards shows), doing "Don't Want To Miss A Thing". He actually had an earpiece to hear the music and it wasn't working or something, and he came in late on the intro to the song. You could tell he was having technical problems, but I'm sure he was understandably upset when the performance was over. Barry "Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:53:56 -0400 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: German Show: bit shocked When was she on Letterman? Was this recent? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of PParm16424@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:37 PM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: German Show: bit shocked It was just a quick high note that didn't make it's intended destination towards the end of "Run For Cover". Otherwise, it was great. Paul Schafer played along on the piano with the band. David Letterman referred to her (before she came out) as an "evil genius", not really emphasizing the "evil" part, but more of the "genius" part. Don Rickles was the guest before Basia. Bought the tape on eBay, somehow thinking it was an official copy from the show, but turned out to be a bootleg copy off someone's TV, and not a very clear one at that. I was not amused, but still glad to see our lady in action. Phil ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V9 #145 ***************************