From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V8 #174 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Sunday, November 9 2003 Volume 08 : Number 174 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: basia-digest V8 #171 [Bill Roberts ] Re: Knock, knock... [Bill Roberts ] Re: Ye olde Madonna debate [Bill Roberts ] RE: Ye olde Madonna debate ["Steve O'Hearn" ] RE: Knocking Basia's door! [Bill Roberts ] RE: Knocking Basia's door! ["Steve O'Hearn" ] RE: Knocking on Basia's door - correction [Bill Roberts ] RE: Knocking Basia's door! ["Steve O'Hearn" ] Re: Knocking Basia's door! ["JC" ] RE: Knocking Basia's door! ["Steve O'Hearn" ] RE: Knocking Basia's door! ["Steve O'Hearn" ] RE: Ye olde Madonna debate [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sergio_Ch=E1vez?= ] RE: Knocking Basia's door! ["Steve O'Hearn" ] Re: Knocking Basia's door! ["JC" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:58:49 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: basia-digest V8 #171 I don't see the comparison between someone who has an interesting song musically once in a while, to someone who rarely did a song that WASN'T interesting both musically and thematically. I will leave it to the rest of you to figure out who the former and the latter are. Bill Quoting Time Voyagers : > > F. W., > > I thought what you wrote was objective--nothing insulting. You're right. I > don't see any similarities at all between Basia and Madonna. I like Madonna > also, but Basia is a totally different world, as you say, except that both > are singers. It's like saying an apple and a lima bean are alike because > they're food. The best thing that could happen is that fans should e-mail or > write writers and commentators when they are confused in their analysis. > > For me, I'm into lighting candles and incense praying to the music gods for > Basia to come back to us. "I'm gonna knock on your door, tap on your window > pane . . . if you don't come back to me, that's what I'm gonna do." (from a > Basia cover song). > > Fred > > > > > > > > ======================= > > Good luck, Sergio (and all)! > > The funny thing is that, when I was searching about > Matt Bianco, just in case that I could find new > things about Basia, some of the results were about > Lizzie McGuire TV (strange isn't it?). I don't know > why, maybe I typed the wrong keywords. I asked myself, > what is the relation between Basia and Hillary Duff > except the fact that both of them have fringes (and > female, of course...:-)..)? > > One more, I also found a review of LWNY from a guy > that compared Basia to Madonna! IMHO, it's like > talking about two very different worlds. Imagine that! > The Modest Lady vs Material Girl! Princess of Peace- > ful Life vs Princess of Controversy! I don't care > about Madonna and whatever she does but when comparing > Basia to her? IMHO, when talking about Basia, just > talk about her; when talking about Madonna, well, you > can talk everything about her. But mixing or comparing > these two different persons, I think it's not a good > idea. IT DOESN'T mean that I hate Madonna (the > person). > I even have one of her album, Something to Remember > (and don't want to add more of hers; what for? Not > because of her songs but only Basia's voice is > 'suitable' with my ears, don't know why....) I just > say, Basia is different from Madonna, so comparing > about them will result in nothing but differences and > debates. > > I do apologize if anyone of you are also Madonna fans. > I don't mean to insult you, just say my opinion. > > Enjoy your days, > > Desianto F. W. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > ------------------------------ > > End of basia-digest V8 #171 > *************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:04:11 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: Knock, knock... Quoting Barry : > > Madonna has had a handful of good songs. Only a handful, and mostly before > she really got nasty. > > But I agree that there is no comparison. Madonna has had a handful of good > songs, Basia has had nothing but good songs. > > There's no comparison at all. Comparing Madonna to Basia is like comparing > a Rolls Royce to a Yugo. > > Barry > Let's remember what David Letterman said "Yugo" was short for: "Yugo screw yourself". ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:05:43 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: Re: Ye olde Madonna debate Quoting Leslie Osborn : >She hasn't yet realized that she is > losing her relevence. Madonna was relevant at one time? Imagine that. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:13:50 -0500 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: Ye olde Madonna debate Madonna who? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Bill Roberts Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:06 AM To: basia@smoe.org; Leslie Osborn Cc: ""@iquest.net Subject: Re: Ye olde Madonna debate Quoting Leslie Osborn : >She hasn't yet realized that she is > losing her relevence. Madonna was relevant at one time? Imagine that. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:20:26 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Quoting Steve O'Hearn : > > OK, so we should each commit to traveling to Basia's home town, and going up > to her door, knocking and asking her - once - to return to music, then going > home. > > We should set up a calendar so we don't all show up at once. That might > require a picketing permit, and we could skirt that loophole by going on > individual days. > > If we do this, I want to be the first or second person to knock on her door. By the time we get down the list, she migth be getting pretty irritated. Restraining orders are not fun. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:27:25 -0500 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Exactly. That's why we need to take turns. You can't take out a restraining order on someone who just visited once, or hasn't even visited yet. - -----Original Message----- From: Bill Roberts [mailto:whroberts@iquest.net] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:20 AM To: basia@smoe.org; Steve O'Hearn Cc: ""@iquest.net Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Quoting Steve O'Hearn : > > OK, so we should each commit to traveling to Basia's home town, and going up > to her door, knocking and asking her - once - to return to music, then going > home. > > We should set up a calendar so we don't all show up at once. That might > require a picketing permit, and we could skirt that loophole by going on > individual days. > > If we do this, I want to be the first or second person to knock on her door. By the time we get down the list, she migth be getting pretty irritated. Restraining orders are not fun. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:24:36 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: RE: Knocking on Basia's door - correction Quoting Bill Roberts : > > Quoting Steve O'Hearn : > > > > > OK, so we should each commit to traveling to Basia's home town, and going > up > > to her door, knocking and asking her - once - to return to music, then > going > > home. > > > > We should set up a calendar so we don't all show up at once. That might > > require a picketing permit, and we could skirt that loophole by going on > > individual days. > > > > > > If we do this, I want to be the first or second person to knock on her door. > > By the time we get down the list, she MIGHT be getting pretty irritated. > Restraining orders are not fun. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:27:08 -0500 From: Bill Roberts Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Quoting Steve O'Hearn : > > Exactly. That's why we need to take turns. You can't take out a > restraining order on someone who just visited once, or hasn't even visited > yet. > > Couldn't she get a restraining order against the entire group on this list? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:37:54 -0500 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Good question. I don't think so, but I'm not an attorney. - -----Original Message----- From: Bill Roberts [mailto:whroberts@iquest.net] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:27 AM To: basia@smoe.org; Steve O'Hearn Cc: ""@iquest.net Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Quoting Steve O'Hearn : > > Exactly. That's why we need to take turns. You can't take out a > restraining order on someone who just visited once, or hasn't even visited > yet. > > Couldn't she get a restraining order against the entire group on this list? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:14:39 -0700 From: "JC" Subject: Re: Knocking Basia's door! Depends entirely on the judge, usually. And the venue - judges in Colorado are generally hesitant to make such sweeping orders in the absence of exceptional circumstances, whereas who knows what judges in Hollywood might do? As far as judges in London or Poland ... anyone know, out of idle curiosity? In the U.S. (again, absent exceptional circumstances) one usually has to prove that they are being caused damages, such as monetary, mental distress, inconvenience, fear of physical harm, etc., not just experiencing nuisance or a momentary pain-in-the-arse type of thing. Witness the paparazzi phenom. Which, of course, we would NEVER do [perish the thought]! Our object is to lovingly entice Basia to record again, not to irritate the hell outta the poor lady so that she vows never to make music again, except perhaps in her native tongue, or to sing nothing but opera forever (not that I don't appreciate opera), or something equally drastic - to get back at us. Thus, we would come bearing gifts, her favorite drink, food, essential oil fragranced potpourri, etc., bowing and scraping. Those men who have never had the extreme felicity of giving diamonds away to women could pursue that avenue ... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Roberts To: basia@smoe.org ; Steve O'Hearn Cc: ""@iquest.net Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Couldn't she get a restraining order against the entire group on this list? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:44:09 -0500 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! > Those men who have never had the extreme felicity > of giving diamonds away to women could pursue that avenue ... Attention fellow men ... danger, Will Robinson ... run for your lives while there's still time ... - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of JC Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 11:15 AM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: Knocking Basia's door! Depends entirely on the judge, usually. And the venue - judges in Colorado are generally hesitant to make such sweeping orders in the absence of exceptional circumstances, whereas who knows what judges in Hollywood might do? As far as judges in London or Poland ... anyone know, out of idle curiosity? In the U.S. (again, absent exceptional circumstances) one usually has to prove that they are being caused damages, such as monetary, mental distress, inconvenience, fear of physical harm, etc., not just experiencing nuisance or a momentary pain-in-the-arse type of thing. Witness the paparazzi phenom. Which, of course, we would NEVER do [perish the thought]! Our object is to lovingly entice Basia to record again, not to irritate the hell outta the poor lady so that she vows never to make music again, except perhaps in her native tongue, or to sing nothing but opera forever (not that I don't appreciate opera), or something equally drastic - to get back at us. Thus, we would come bearing gifts, her favorite drink, food, essential oil fragranced potpourri, etc., bowing and scraping. Those men who have never had the extreme felicity of giving diamonds away to women could pursue that avenue ... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Roberts To: basia@smoe.org ; Steve O'Hearn Cc: ""@iquest.net Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Couldn't she get a restraining order against the entire group on this list? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:44:15 -0500 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! > Our object is to lovingly entice Basia to record again, > not to irritate the hell outta the poor lady Hey - whatever it takes. The honey approach hasn't worked for 10 years. Time to return to the second grade basics, when the best way to get a girl's attention was to roll up a magazine and smack her in the back of the head with it. Worked every time back then. I'm reminded of the doorman at the Plaza Hotel who told a Parade magazine reporter that if anyone ever said to him that New Yorkers weren't friendly, he would slug them. - - S - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of JC Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 11:15 AM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: Knocking Basia's door! Depends entirely on the judge, usually. And the venue - judges in Colorado are generally hesitant to make such sweeping orders in the absence of exceptional circumstances, whereas who knows what judges in Hollywood might do? As far as judges in London or Poland ... anyone know, out of idle curiosity? In the U.S. (again, absent exceptional circumstances) one usually has to prove that they are being caused damages, such as monetary, mental distress, inconvenience, fear of physical harm, etc., not just experiencing nuisance or a momentary pain-in-the-arse type of thing. Witness the paparazzi phenom. Which, of course, we would NEVER do [perish the thought]! Our object is to lovingly entice Basia to record again, not to irritate the hell outta the poor lady so that she vows never to make music again, except perhaps in her native tongue, or to sing nothing but opera forever (not that I don't appreciate opera), or something equally drastic - to get back at us. Thus, we would come bearing gifts, her favorite drink, food, essential oil fragranced potpourri, etc., bowing and scraping. Those men who have never had the extreme felicity of giving diamonds away to women could pursue that avenue ... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Roberts To: basia@smoe.org ; Steve O'Hearn Cc: ""@iquest.net Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Couldn't she get a restraining order against the entire group on this list? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 20:58:45 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sergio_Ch=E1vez?= Subject: RE: Ye olde Madonna debate That4s right!!!! Sergio Razl Chavez cel. 8303600 sergio.raul@telesal.net - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bill Roberts Sent: Sabado, 08 de Noviembre de 2003 09:06 a.m. To: basia@smoe.org; Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Ye olde Madonna debate Quoting Leslie Osborn : >She hasn't yet realized that she is > losing her relevence. Madonna was relevant at one time? Imagine that. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:24:41 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sergio_Ch=E1vez?= Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Of course not!!!! Sergio Razl Chavez cel. 8303600 sergio.raul@telesal.net - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bill Roberts Sent: Sabado, 08 de Noviembre de 2003 09:27 a.m. To: basia@smoe.org; Steve O'Hearn Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Quoting Steve O'Hearn : > > Exactly. That's why we need to take turns. You can't take out a > restraining order on someone who just visited once, or hasn't even visited > yet. > > Couldn't she get a restraining order against the entire group on this list? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 22:08:02 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sergio_Ch=E1vez?= Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Thanks for the information!!!!! But I will read this again so I can file the information and enjoy this group!!! Sergio Razl Chavez cel. 8303600 sergio.raul@telesal.net - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org] On Behalf Of JC Sent: Sabado, 08 de Noviembre de 2003 10:15 a.m. To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: Knocking Basia's door! Depends entirely on the judge, usually. And the venue - judges in Colorado are generally hesitant to make such sweeping orders in the absence of exceptional circumstances, whereas who knows what judges in Hollywood might do? As far as judges in London or Poland ... anyone know, out of idle curiosity? In the U.S. (again, absent exceptional circumstances) one usually has to prove that they are being caused damages, such as monetary, mental distress, inconvenience, fear of physical harm, etc., not just experiencing nuisance or a momentary pain-in-the-arse type of thing. Witness the paparazzi phenom. Which, of course, we would NEVER do [perish the thought]! Our object is to lovingly entice Basia to record again, not to irritate the hell outta the poor lady so that she vows never to make music again, except perhaps in her native tongue, or to sing nothing but opera forever (not that I don't appreciate opera), or something equally drastic - to get back at us. Thus, we would come bearing gifts, her favorite drink, food, essential oil fragranced potpourri, etc., bowing and scraping. Those men who have never had the extreme felicity of giving diamonds away to women could pursue that avenue ... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Roberts To: basia@smoe.org ; Steve O'Hearn Cc: ""@iquest.net Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! Couldn't she get a restraining order against the entire group on this list? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:48:19 -0700 From: "Steve Richardson" Subject: Fw: Knocking Basia's door! I used to hope Basia would look in on this list to see how much we missed her and loved her music...now I hope she doesn't, she'd be convinced we're all a bunch of psychos. Steve R. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve O'Hearn" To: "JC" ; Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 9:44 AM Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! > > > Our object is to lovingly entice Basia to record again, > > not to irritate the hell outta the poor lady > > Hey - whatever it takes. The honey approach hasn't worked for 10 years. > Time to return to the second grade basics, when the best way to get a girl's > attention was to roll up a magazine and smack her in the back of the head > with it. Worked every time back then. > > I'm reminded of the doorman at the Plaza Hotel who told a Parade magazine > reporter that if anyone ever said to him that New Yorkers weren't friendly, > he would slug them. > > - S > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of JC > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 11:15 AM > To: basia@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Knocking Basia's door! > > > > Depends entirely on the judge, usually. And the venue - judges in Colorado > are generally hesitant to make such sweeping orders in the absence of > exceptional circumstances, whereas who knows what judges in Hollywood might > do? As far as judges in London or Poland ... anyone know, out of idle > curiosity? > > In the U.S. (again, absent exceptional circumstances) one usually has to > prove > that they are being caused damages, such as monetary, mental distress, > inconvenience, fear of physical harm, etc., not just experiencing nuisance > or > a momentary pain-in-the-arse type of thing. Witness the paparazzi phenom. > > Which, of course, we would NEVER do [perish the thought]! Our object is to > lovingly entice Basia to record again, not to irritate the hell outta the > poor > lady so that she vows never to make music again, except perhaps in her > native > tongue, or to sing nothing but opera forever (not that I don't appreciate > opera), or something equally drastic - to get back at us. Thus, we would > come > bearing gifts, her favorite drink, food, essential oil fragranced potpourri, > etc., bowing and scraping. Those men who have never had the extreme > felicity > of giving diamonds away to women could pursue that avenue ... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Roberts > To: basia@smoe.org ; Steve O'Hearn > Cc: ""@iquest.net > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:27 AM > Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! > > > > Couldn't she get a restraining order against the entire group on this list? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 01:00:09 -0500 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! :) Just creative people with a crazy sense of humor. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Steve Richardson Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 12:48 AM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Fw: Knocking Basia's door! I used to hope Basia would look in on this list to see how much we missed her and loved her music...now I hope she doesn't, she'd be convinced we're all a bunch of psychos. Steve R. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve O'Hearn" To: "JC" ; Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 9:44 AM Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! > > > Our object is to lovingly entice Basia to record again, > > not to irritate the hell outta the poor lady > > Hey - whatever it takes. The honey approach hasn't worked for 10 years. > Time to return to the second grade basics, when the best way to get a girl's > attention was to roll up a magazine and smack her in the back of the head > with it. Worked every time back then. > > I'm reminded of the doorman at the Plaza Hotel who told a Parade magazine > reporter that if anyone ever said to him that New Yorkers weren't friendly, > he would slug them. > > - S > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of JC > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 11:15 AM > To: basia@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Knocking Basia's door! > > > > Depends entirely on the judge, usually. And the venue - judges in Colorado > are generally hesitant to make such sweeping orders in the absence of > exceptional circumstances, whereas who knows what judges in Hollywood might > do? As far as judges in London or Poland ... anyone know, out of idle > curiosity? > > In the U.S. (again, absent exceptional circumstances) one usually has to > prove > that they are being caused damages, such as monetary, mental distress, > inconvenience, fear of physical harm, etc., not just experiencing nuisance > or > a momentary pain-in-the-arse type of thing. Witness the paparazzi phenom. > > Which, of course, we would NEVER do [perish the thought]! Our object is to > lovingly entice Basia to record again, not to irritate the hell outta the > poor > lady so that she vows never to make music again, except perhaps in her > native > tongue, or to sing nothing but opera forever (not that I don't appreciate > opera), or something equally drastic - to get back at us. Thus, we would > come > bearing gifts, her favorite drink, food, essential oil fragranced potpourri, > etc., bowing and scraping. Those men who have never had the extreme > felicity > of giving diamonds away to women could pursue that avenue ... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Roberts > To: basia@smoe.org ; Steve O'Hearn > Cc: ""@iquest.net > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:27 AM > Subject: RE: Knocking Basia's door! > > > > Couldn't she get a restraining order against the entire group on this list? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:15 -0700 From: "JC" Subject: Re: Knocking Basia's door! Oh, come now! Don't you think she would perceive our desperate NEED for quality music, have mercy on our plight, and forthwith take to recording - perhaps a box set this time? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Richardson To: basia@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:48 PM Subject: Fw: Knocking Basia's door! I used to hope Basia would look in on this list to see how much we missed her and loved her music...now I hope she doesn't, she'd be convinced we're all a bunch of psychos. Steve R. ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V8 #174 ***************************