From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V8 #48 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Friday, May 16 2003 Volume 08 : Number 048 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Dramatic changes are percolating [Lipman_Larry ] Re: Dramatic changes are percolating ["Desianto F. W." Subject: Dramatic changes are percolating Many of our fellow list-serv members may not be aware that Apple and Microsoft are considering the purchase of Universal Music Group. Consider that for a moment, and then take a look at this eWeek story: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1053535,00.asp which is an interesting article on a future MS operating system kernel, which has the potential to control the way a PC interacts with aware applications, hardware and memory. This could "lock-in" a user to certain software applications. On a related note, I understand one of the TV news shows recently broadcast an extensive special about downloading music...and it was proposed that perhaps we should just forget attempts to control it, and instead seek to make money from other uses of the material. Blasphemy or precognition? What do you think? It is really a fascinating time for those of us involved in intellectual property. I can't wait to see how it all shakes down. But, I'm also concerned about the vitality of consumer rights. We are dangerously on the brink of loosing some precious rights and freedoms. Those of you with an interest might want to check out Ed Foster's archived columns from InfoWorld: http://www2.infoworld.com/cgi/component/columnarchive.wbs?column=gripe and his new independent site: http://www.gripe2ed.com, both of which are free. Search for UCITA and observe the power struggle over some long-held, basic rights. Many of these "software application" issues have the potential to be applied to music media as well. Scary. LL [Note to Desianto F. W...you might explore obtaining a debit card. Also, many sites now offer direct-debit of your checking/savings account. As for the lack of Linux media apps...can't help you there!] LL At 01:15 AM 5/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:08:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Downloading Basia material I just would like to point out that the Apple iTunes downloading store system thing I mentioned is completely legal and on the level-- hence the 99 cents per song. Believe me, after working with Apple and seeing their fear and paranoia about the law, and knowing that they made deals with Sony et al to do this in a legal way, you can assure yourself that you aren't robbing anyone. Of course this only applies to .02 of you now, but by the end of the year more of you will see what I'm talking about. Just clarifying! - --Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:29:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Desianto F. W." Subject: Re: Downloading Basia material The problems are, I'm working with Linux (though I've ever worked with Apple when I took graphic design) and Windows 98. Next, I don't have any credit card to do the payment...:-) Thanks anyway for the info... Desianto F. W. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 00:04:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Desianto F. W." Subject: Re: Dramatic changes are percolating - --- Lipman_Larry wrote: > > Many of our fellow list-serv members may not be > aware that Apple and > Microsoft are considering the purchase of Universal > Music Group. > Consider that for a moment, and then take a look at > this eWeek story: > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1053535,00.asp > which is an interesting article on a future MS > operating system kernel, > which has the potential to control the way a PC > interacts with aware > applications, hardware and memory. This could > "lock-in" a user to > certain software applications. On a related note, I > understand one of > the TV news shows recently broadcast an extensive > special about > downloading music...and it was proposed that perhaps > we should just > forget attempts to control it, and instead seek to > make money from other > uses of the material. Blasphemy or precognition? > What do you think? It > is really a fascinating time for those of us > involved in intellectual > property. I can't wait to see how it all shakes > down. But, I'm also > concerned about the vitality of consumer rights. We > are dangerously on > the brink of loosing some precious rights and > freedoms. Those of you > with an interest might want to check out Ed Foster's > archived columns > from InfoWorld: > http://www2.infoworld.com/cgi/component/columnarchive.wbs?column=gripe > and his new independent site: > http://www.gripe2ed.com, both of which are free. > Search for UCITA and observe the power struggle over > some long-held, > basic rights. Many of these "software application" > issues have the > potential to be applied to music media as well. > Scary. > LL > > [Note to Desianto F. W...you might explore obtaining > a debit card. Also, > many sites now offer direct-debit of your > checking/savings account. As > for the lack of Linux media apps...can't help you > there!] Thanks for this interesting info. Though I know that there are some sites provide legal music download, I would rather to have the 'tangible' album. It doesn't mean that I offend those sites, I just love to read, watch the images, and follow the lyrics on the leaflet or booklet inside the album while I'm listening to the music. About a debit card (or e.g. Visa Electron, you mean?), I've already had it long ago and ever tried to do some e-shopping with it. However, though I've sent the e- store with my identity, photocopy of my debit card, and a letter from my bank, it was not successful. I tried it in Amazon and CD Now (at that time). Later, I found that they don't accept debit cards. Hope, someday, they will accept debit cards....:-) For Linux apps, I'm lucky enough to have a brother who is a Linux mania, in fact, he is one of the Linux experts and pioneers in Indonesia. The problem is, that he is so busy with his own new IT company and I don't have a heart to disturb him since he is so kind to me. Desianto F. W. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 11:17:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Osborn Subject: Re: Dramatic changes are percolating > Many of our fellow list-serv members may not be > aware that Apple and > Microsoft are considering the purchase of Universal > Music Group. For the record, Apple has denied that they are involved in any sale of Vivendi. From the MacAddict front page: >>Brief, and to the Point 12:14 PM - Wednesday, April 16 2003 ~ The full text of a press release we just received from Apple: "Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL) has never made any offer to invest in or acquire a major music company. The press statements this morning attributed to Vivendi board member Claude Bebear are untrue, as Mr. Bebear has confirmed in a later report," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "Beyond these comments, we will abide by Apple's policy of not commenting on rumors." We certainly wouldn't want to be stuck in an elevator with Mr. Jobs and Mr. Bebear anytime soon.<< For what it's worth.... - --Leslie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V8 #48 **************************