From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V8 #46 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Wednesday, May 14 2003 Volume 08 : Number 046 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Downloading Basia material [Lipman_Larry ] Re: Downloading Basia material ["Larry Briley" ] Re: Downloading Basia material ["William N. Schnaitter" ] RE: Downloading Basia material [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sergio_Ch=E1vez?= ] Re: Downloading Basia material ["Rob Perkins" ] RE: Downloading Basia material [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sergio_Ch=E1vez?= Subject: Downloading Basia material While I'll be the first to speculate she has likely experienced most of the paid album sales she will ever enjoy (barring any new album releases), I would ask you NOT to download material that is still available for sale at retail. This does nothing but drive her stats down, thereby making it more difficult for her to find a label willing to underwrite the cost of a new release. The business viability of investing in an artist is one of the most serious consequences of downloading music rather than paying for it, and one that just isn't within most folks' radar. (And let me be clear that I am not defending the gouging practices of many labels...Nor do I feel labels have handled the opportunities of the web appropriately. That's another discussion for another day!) LL At 01:15 AM 5/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: Would somebody be so kind to tell me where can I download most of Basia's album ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 10:49:12 -0400 From: "Larry Briley" Subject: Re: Downloading Basia material Well said... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lipman_Larry" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: Downloading Basia material > > While I'll be the first to speculate she has likely experienced most of > the paid album sales she will ever enjoy (barring any new album > releases), I would ask you NOT to download material that is still > available for sale at retail. This does nothing but drive her stats > down, thereby making it more difficult for her to find a label willing to > underwrite the cost of a new release. The business viability of > investing in an artist is one of the most serious consequences of > downloading music rather than paying for it, and one that just isn't > within most folks' radar. (And let me be clear that I am not defending > the gouging practices of many labels...Nor do I feel labels have handled > the opportunities of the web appropriately. That's another discussion > for another day!) > LL > > At 01:15 AM 5/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > Would somebody be so kind to tell me where can I download most of > Basia's album ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 09:41:31 -0700 From: "William N. Schnaitter" Subject: Re: Downloading Basia material Very well. - -Bill Schnaitter Larry Briley wrote: > Well said... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lipman_Larry" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:51 AM > Subject: Downloading Basia material > > > > > While I'll be the first to speculate she has likely experienced most of > > the paid album sales she will ever enjoy (barring any new album > > releases), I would ask you NOT to download material that is still > > available for sale at retail. This does nothing but drive her stats > > down, thereby making it more difficult for her to find a label willing to > > underwrite the cost of a new release. The business viability of > > investing in an artist is one of the most serious consequences of > > downloading music rather than paying for it, and one that just isn't > > within most folks' radar. (And let me be clear that I am not defending > > the gouging practices of many labels...Nor do I feel labels have handled > > the opportunities of the web appropriately. That's another discussion > > for another day!) > > LL > > > > At 01:15 AM 5/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > > > Would somebody be so kind to tell me where can I download most of > > Basia's album ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:18:13 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sergio_Ch=E1vez?= Subject: RE: Downloading Basia material Yes , I know.............do you know why Basia put the name of "Astrud" to that song? Sergio Razl Chavez cel. 8303600 sergio.raul@telesal.net - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Larry Briley Sent: Martes, 13 de Mayo de 2003 08:49 a.m. To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: Downloading Basia material Well said... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lipman_Larry" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: Downloading Basia material > > While I'll be the first to speculate she has likely experienced most of > the paid album sales she will ever enjoy (barring any new album > releases), I would ask you NOT to download material that is still > available for sale at retail. This does nothing but drive her stats > down, thereby making it more difficult for her to find a label willing to > underwrite the cost of a new release. The business viability of > investing in an artist is one of the most serious consequences of > downloading music rather than paying for it, and one that just isn't > within most folks' radar. (And let me be clear that I am not defending > the gouging practices of many labels...Nor do I feel labels have handled > the opportunities of the web appropriately. That's another discussion > for another day!) > LL > > At 01:15 AM 5/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > Would somebody be so kind to tell me where can I download most of > Basia's album ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:18:13 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sergio_Ch=E1vez?= Subject: RE: Downloading Basia material Well!!!!!!!, here it goes from another point: Would somebody be so kind to tell me where can I buy most of Basia's albums? And thanks LL, make me think about what you wrote. Your friend Sergio Razl Chavez cel. 8303600 sergio.raul@telesal.net - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Lipman_Larry Sent: Martes, 13 de Mayo de 2003 07:52 a.m. To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Downloading Basia material While I'll be the first to speculate she has likely experienced most of the paid album sales she will ever enjoy (barring any new album releases), I would ask you NOT to download material that is still available for sale at retail. This does nothing but drive her stats down, thereby making it more difficult for her to find a label willing to underwrite the cost of a new release. The business viability of investing in an artist is one of the most serious consequences of downloading music rather than paying for it, and one that just isn't within most folks' radar. (And let me be clear that I am not defending the gouging practices of many labels...Nor do I feel labels have handled the opportunities of the web appropriately. That's another discussion for another day!) LL At 01:15 AM 5/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: Would somebody be so kind to tell me where can I download most of Basia's album ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 23:02:11 -0000 From: "Rob Perkins" Subject: Re: Downloading Basia material > Yes , I know.............do you know why Basia put the name of "Astrud" > to that song? It was a tribute to Astrud Gilberto, it seems. "Astrud" is full of song titles from Gilberto's albums. I love obscure references! Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 17:09:53 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sergio_Ch=E1vez?= Subject: RE: Downloading Basia material Thanks...........and Astrud Gilberto was or is? (pardon the question) Sergio Razl Chavez cel. 8303600 sergio.raul@telesal.net - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Rob Perkins Sent: Martes, 13 de Mayo de 2003 05:02 p.m. To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: Downloading Basia material > Yes , I know.............do you know why Basia put the name of "Astrud" > to that song? It was a tribute to Astrud Gilberto, it seems. "Astrud" is full of song titles from Gilberto's albums. I love obscure references! Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 21:13:40 -0400 From: "Paxety Pages" Subject: RE: Downloading Basia material Astrud Gilberto is a Brazilian Bossa Nova singer. She sang on the Getz/Gilberto album (Stan Getz- and American jazz saxophone player, and Joao Gilberto, Astrud's then husband who was one of the inventors of Bossa Nova). The album also featured Antonio Carlos Jobim. It was the album that popularized Bossa Nova to the world outside Brazil. There is a lot of Bossa Nova influence in Basia's music. un abrazo, juan *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 5/13/03 at 5:09 PM Sergio Chavez wrote: >Thanks...........and Astrud Gilberto was or is? (pardon the question) > >Sergio Razl Chavez >cel. 8303600 >sergio.raul@telesal.net > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org] On Behalf Of >Rob Perkins >Sent: Martes, 13 de Mayo de 2003 05:02 p.m. >To: basia@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Downloading Basia material > > >> Yes , I know.............do you know why Basia put the name of >"Astrud" >> to that song? > >It was a tribute to Astrud Gilberto, it seems. "Astrud" is full of song >titles from Gilberto's albums. > >I love obscure references! > >Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 01:42:32 -0000 From: "Rob Perkins" Subject: Re: Downloading Basia material > Thanks...........and Astrud Gilberto was or is? (pardon the question) Only the smoothest female vocalist of my parents' youth. Brazilian Bossa Nova and Samba music, etc. Lots of that style in Basia's arrangements. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 19:51:56 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sergio_Ch=E1vez?= Subject: RE: Downloading Basia material Thanks, you all people really know what you are talking about... Sergio Razl Chavez cel. 8303600 sergio.raul@telesal.net - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Rob Perkins Sent: Martes, 13 de Mayo de 2003 07:43 p.m. To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: Downloading Basia material > Thanks...........and Astrud Gilberto was or is? (pardon the question) Only the smoothest female vocalist of my parents' youth. Brazilian Bossa Nova and Samba music, etc. Lots of that style in Basia's arrangements. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 21:28:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Desianto F. W." Subject: Re: Downloading Basia material I also agree with you. I myself feel guilty if I buy non-original albums or download them. It's just feel not right. That's why I never download any song (esp. Basia's) from the internet although I know some sites provide this service. Basia herself is actually ready to sing for nothing (she said it by herself) but the band members need the money since music business is their lives. To Sergio (don't be upset, please...:-)), you have the same position as me. I myself also have some difficulties to get Basia's album here in Indonesia since most Indonesian taste of music is awfully bad. However, I was able to get 5 of her 6 (or 7?) albums with the help of my brother. Right now, Basia's albums available in Indonesia are Clear Horizon (CD & tape) and, by surprise, LWNY (in tape format). I bought 4 Clear Horizon, one of them was a wedding gift for my best friend. I'm still pursuing Basia on Broadway CD but I think it's almost impossible for me, unless if someone wants to trade with my other collections (Pet Shop Boys, Air Supply, Level 42....). Hope this info can 'ease your longing'.... BTW, the song Time and Tide is very suitable to be arranged in Kroncong music, but I never make it, just play it in my mind. Czesc, Desianto F. W. - --- Lipman_Larry wrote: > > While I'll be the first to speculate she has likely > experienced most of > the paid album sales she will ever enjoy (barring > any new album > releases), I would ask you NOT to download material > that is still > available for sale at retail. This does nothing but > drive her stats > down, thereby making it more difficult for her to > find a label willing to > underwrite the cost of a new release. The business > viability of > investing in an artist is one of the most serious > consequences of > downloading music rather than paying for it, and one > that just isn't > within most folks' radar. (And let me be clear that > I am not defending > the gouging practices of many labels...Nor do I feel > labels have handled > the opportunities of the web appropriately. That's > another discussion > for another day!) > LL > > At 01:15 AM 5/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > Would somebody be so kind to tell me where can I > download most of > Basia's album __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V8 #46 **************************