From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V7 #15 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Friday, February 1 2002 Volume 07 : Number 015 Today's Subjects: ----------------- thanks ["Catherine" ] Re: thanks [jp ] Re: Astrud [Max Wellhouse ] New tracks [Dr Dirk Pilat ] Basia Store Stock? [Max Wellhouse ] letter writting campaign [Samurai27@aol.com] Re: letter writting campaign ["Paul S. Fish" ] Swing Out Sister [Lipman_Larry ] Re: Swing Out Sister [George Davson ] Re: Swing Out Sister [] RE: Swing Out Sister ["Randy Boatright" ] Re: thanks ["Catherine" ] Re: letter writting campaign [] letter writting campaign ["Catherine" ] Re: letter writting campaign ["W. D." ] Re: letter writing campaign [Bob Rumsby ] Re: letter writting campaign [] Re: letter writing campaign ["W. D." ] Som do Brazil ["tom,kelly&jordan" ] Re: letter writting campaign ["Alan Mann" ] Re: Asturd [Mithors@aol.com] Re: Astrud [pineking@gwi.net] RE: letter writting campaign ["Steve O'Hearn" ] RE: Asturd ["Jeff Abrams" ] Fw: Asturd...that is, Astrud ["Steve Richardson" ] Re: Som do Brazil [Max Wellhouse ] RE: Asturd [Max Wellhouse ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:27:50 -0800 From: "Catherine" Subject: thanks Being the new person, I must say how much I enjoy all the feedback about Basia's albums and specific details about individual songs...such as the discussion on Astrud. I have probably learned more in one week from all of you than I have in the last 10 years of enjoying listening to her by myself. Thanks, Cathe' Catherine Fish Certified Flight Instructor AOPA Air Safety Foundation ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:03:13 -0500 From: jp Subject: Re: thanks That's why this is one of the more interesting lists to be on. We get off topic sometimes, as there is no new output from Basia, but whatever we do discuss is interesting. (We did ban comparing Britney Spears' backup dancers to Nazis, though.) We're glad to have you join us. un abrazo, juan At 11:27 PM 1/30/02 -0800, you wrote: > >Being the new person, I must say how much I enjoy all the feedback about >Basia's albums and specific details about individual songs...such as the >discussion on Astrud. > >I have probably learned more in one week from all of you than I have in the >last 10 years of enjoying listening to her by myself. >Thanks, >Cathe' >Catherine Fish >Certified Flight Instructor >AOPA Air Safety Foundation > The Bloviator http://home.bellsouth.net/personalpages/PWP-Bloviator ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 06:33:50 -0600 From: Max Wellhouse Subject: Re: Astrud I'd be up for observing one of Basia's pool parties!!! Dimwitted moose and Flying Squirrel At 07:52 PM 1/30/2002 -0500, pineking@gwi.net wrote: >I don't know if this has been mentioned during this thread Verve >Records put out a very nice three disc set entitled ' Antonio Carlos >Jobim: The Man From Ipanema" which can be had from BMG for >next to nothing. Socks knocking good stuff. > >As re: Astrud. Anyone know the origins of this particular name? I've >done some looking around the Web, and have gotten nowhere. >When I was quite a bit younger I lived near Cape Canaveral, >Florida. Our next door neighbor was (seriously, folks) a German >rocket scientist. His daughter, quite Nordicly gorgeous and blonde, >was named Astrud. She was a senior at Satellite High School - I >was but a mere 7th grader. My Dad caught me in the act of >observing one of Astrud's pool parties from our roof. > >Phil >(still infatuated with Basia and Astrud) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:49:20 +0000 From: Dr Dirk Pilat Subject: New tracks Hi! I visited a friend of Danny White on Tuesday: Apparently Danny has send Basia recently ten tracks for evaluation, but apparently with no great response. It appears that she's not very interested at present. Shame, really. Dirk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 06:53:09 -0600 From: Max Wellhouse Subject: Basia Store Stock? Dear Listees: Next time you cruise your local record/CD stpre, just for grins check and see which, if any, Basia CD's they have in stock. I can't find Basia on Broadway anywhere, but was able to get Time and Tide and London Warsaw New York at a used CD shop(FOOLS!! for trading in these tunes) I think one of the reasons she was not more popular on radio is most of her good tunes are well over 4 minutes long and that's sure death on a play list these days. The days of "American Pie", "McArthur Park", and " Do You Feel Like We Do?" are over. DM&FS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:31:40 EST From: Samurai27@aol.com Subject: letter writting campaign Yes that is a shame. Assuming the Biggin hill address is still active maybe we should start a major campaign to get her back into the world of entertainment. The Smooth jazz awards are once again in fuill swing. I currently have been sending in my ballots for Peter White, Rich Braun, and Dave Koz. It hurts me when I see Sade on the ballot for best female enteratiner. Its not that I don't think she is good. WHat bothers me is I believ Basia is better ans she has dropped out of sight. Lets think about sending our letter to her telling her how much she means to us and that we want her back. denis with one "N" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:55:36 -0500 From: "Paul S. Fish" Subject: Re: letter writting campaign A letter writing campaign? I'm all for that. Like most everybody on this list, I like Basia more than I do Sade - and look how popular she is. There were a number of years between Sade's CDs, so you never know...maybe it could happen to Basia as well. We need to let her know that she is loved and missed. Paul - ---- "Your memory's the sunshine every new day brings / I know the sky is calling / Angel, let me help you with your wings" - Nickel Creek, "When You Come Back Down" http://www.marleeonline.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:02:22 -0600 From: Lipman_Larry Subject: Swing Out Sister Just curious... Has Swing Out Sister gone bye-bye? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:15:41 +0000 (GMT) From: George Davson Subject: Re: Swing Out Sister On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Lipman_Larry wrote: > > Just curious... > Has Swing Out Sister gone bye-bye? > Not that I know of - there last album was out in the latter half of last year (and was a f***ing masterpiece in my opinion). Japan only though. Kun Kim's site is still up (www.swingoutsister.com) and does not mention a split. george - -- George Davson, Computer Services, Oxford Brookes University, Oxford, UK gdavson@brookes.ac.uk Tel: +44 1865 483317 Fax: +44 1865 483073 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 10:18:21 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Swing Out Sister It appears they are still around and about to release an album in Europe, according to: http://www.swingoutsister.com un abrazo, juan > > From: Lipman_Larry > Date: 2002/01/31 Thu AM 10:02:22 EST > To: basia@smoe.org > Subject: Swing Out Sister > > > Just curious... > Has Swing Out Sister gone bye-bye? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:16:29 -0600 From: "Randy Boatright" Subject: RE: Swing Out Sister Good question...I was wondering the same thing myself. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Lipman_Larry Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:02 AM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Swing Out Sister Just curious... Has Swing Out Sister gone bye-bye? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:18:47 -0800 From: "Catherine" Subject: Re: thanks - - Well, I like the idea of banning anything about Britany Spears from this list. Cathe' That's why this is one of the more interesting lists to be on. We get off topic sometimes, as there is no new output from Basia, but whatever we do discuss is interesting. (We did ban comparing Britney Spears' backup dancers to Nazis, though.) We're glad to have you join us. un abrazo, juan At 11:27 PM 1/30/02 -0800, you wrote: > >Being the new person, I must say how much I enjoy all the feedback about >Basia's albums and specific details about individual songs...such as the >discussion on Astrud. > >I have probably learned more in one week from all of you than I have in the >last 10 years of enjoying listening to her by myself. >Thanks, >Cathe' >Catherine Fish >Certified Flight Instructor >AOPA Air Safety Foundation > The Bloviator http://home.bellsouth.net/personalpages/PWP-Bloviator ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:29:28 -0500 From: Subject: Re: letter writting campaign I missed getting the address... can someone post it? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul S. Fish" To: Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:55 AM Subject: Re: letter writting campaign > > A letter writing campaign? I'm all for that. Like most everybody on this list, I like Basia more than I do Sade - and look how popular she is. There were a number of years between Sade's CDs, so you never know...maybe it could happen to Basia as well. > > We need to let her know that she is loved and missed. > > Paul > ---- > > "Your memory's the sunshine every new day brings / I know the sky is calling / Angel, let me help you with your wings" - Nickel Creek, "When You Come Back Down" > > http://www.marleeonline.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:33:20 -0800 From: "Catherine" Subject: letter writting campaign What address should we use? ----- Original Message ----- From: Samurai27@aol.com To: basia@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:31 AM Subject: letter writting campaign Yes that is a shame. Assuming the Biggin hill address is still active maybe we should start a major campaign to get her back into the world of entertainment. The Smooth jazz awards are once again in fuill swing. I currently have been sending in my ballots for Peter White, Rich Braun, and Dave Koz. It hurts me when I see Sade on the ballot for best female enteratiner. Its not that I don't think she is good. WHat bothers me is I believ Basia is better ans she has dropped out of sight. Lets think about sending our letter to her telling her how much she means to us and that we want her back. denis with one "N" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:50:36 -0600 From: "W. D." Subject: Re: letter writting campaign Hey Gang, Perhaps Joan could ask Peter White? ================================================= PerfectCaravan@aol.com Joan Lynch President,The Caravan The Official Fan Club of Peter White www.peterwhitefanclub.com ================================================= Could this be her? http://email.people.yahoo.com/py/psEntry.py?id=89050427 At 10:33 1/31/2002, Catherine, wrote: > >What address should we use? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Samurai27@aol.com > To: basia@smoe.org > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:31 AM > Subject: letter writting campaign > > > > Yes that is a shame. Assuming the Biggin hill address is still active maybe >we should start a major campaign to get her back into the world of >entertainment. The Smooth jazz awards are once again in fuill swing. I >currently have been sending in my ballots for Peter White, Rich Braun, and >Dave Koz. It hurts me when I see Sade on the ballot for best female >enteratiner. Its not that I don't think she is good. WHat bothers me is I >believ Basia is better ans she has dropped out of sight. Lets think about >sending our letter to her telling her how much she means to us and that we >want her back. > > denis with one "N" At 10:29 1/31/2002, kdavis5@carolina.rr.com, wrote: > >I missed getting the address... can someone post it? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul S. Fish" >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:55 AM >Subject: Re: letter writting campaign > > >> >> A letter writing campaign? I'm all for that. Like most everybody on this >list, I like Basia more than I do Sade - and look how popular she is. There >were a number of years between Sade's CDs, so you never know...maybe it >could happen to Basia as well. >> >> We need to let her know that she is loved and missed. >> >> Paul >> ---- Start Here to Find It Fast!) -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/start.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:00:39 -0500 From: Bob Rumsby Subject: Re: letter writing campaign When I talked to PW last he said that the Biggin Hill address was still active. bfn BobR At 12:50 PM 1/31/02 -0600, you wrote: >Hey Gang, > >Perhaps Joan could ask Peter White? >================================================= >PerfectCaravan@aol.com >Joan Lynch >President,The Caravan >The Official Fan Club of Peter White >www.peterwhitefanclub.com >================================================= > >Could this be her? >http://email.people.yahoo.com/py/psEntry.py?id=89050427 > > >At 10:33 1/31/2002, Catherine, wrote: > > > >What address should we use? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Samurai27@aol.com > > To: basia@smoe.org > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:31 AM > > Subject: letter writting campaign > > > > > > > > Yes that is a shame. Assuming the Biggin hill address is still active > maybe > >we should start a major campaign to get her back into the world of > >entertainment. The Smooth jazz awards are once again in fuill swing. I > >currently have been sending in my ballots for Peter White, Rich Braun, and > >Dave Koz. It hurts me when I see Sade on the ballot for best female > >enteratiner. Its not that I don't think she is good. WHat bothers me is I > >believ Basia is better ans she has dropped out of sight. Lets think about > >sending our letter to her telling her how much she means to us and that we > >want her back. > > > > denis with one "N" > >At 10:29 1/31/2002, kdavis5@carolina.rr.com, wrote: > > > >I missed getting the address... can someone post it? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Paul S. Fish" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:55 AM > >Subject: Re: letter writting campaign > > > > > >> > >> A letter writing campaign? I'm all for that. Like most everybody on this > >list, I like Basia more than I do Sade - and look how popular she is. There > >were a number of years between Sade's CDs, so you never know...maybe it > >could happen to Basia as well. > >> > >> We need to let her know that she is loved and missed. > >> > >> Paul > >> ---- > >Start Here to Find It Fast!) -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/start.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:08:17 -0500 From: Subject: Re: letter writting campaign It's on the Time and Tide album. I'm at work now, but I'll get it and post it tonight if no one else does first. un abrazo, juan > > From: "Catherine" > Date: 2002/01/31 Thu AM 11:33:20 EST > To: > Subject: letter writting campaign > > > What address should we use? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Samurai27@aol.com > To: basia@smoe.org > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:31 AM > Subject: letter writting campaign > > > > Yes that is a shame. Assuming the Biggin hill address is still active maybe > we should start a major campaign to get her back into the world of > entertainment. The Smooth jazz awards are once again in fuill swing. I > currently have been sending in my ballots for Peter White, Rich Braun, and > Dave Koz. It hurts me when I see Sade on the ballot for best female > enteratiner. Its not that I don't think she is good. WHat bothers me is I > believ Basia is better ans she has dropped out of sight. Lets think about > sending our letter to her telling her how much she means to us and that we > want her back. > > denis with one "N" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:08:39 -0600 From: "W. D." Subject: Re: letter writing campaign That address would be: P.O. Box 9 Biggin Hill Westerham Kent TN16 3UR ENGLAND Found here: http://basia.techwood.org/text/pobox.txt At 14:00 1/31/2002, Bob Rumsby, wrote: > >When I talked to PW last he said that the Biggin Hill address was still >active. Start Here to Find It Fast!) -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/start.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:45:05 -0600 From: "tom,kelly&jordan" Subject: Som do Brazil Hi Everybody, I love all the buzz about Braziian music. I recently became friends with (see below) Randy who has the best show on FM radio as far as I am concerend. In Lincoln we have a very special radio station that is community supported and I understand there are only a couple like in North America. Anyway Randy's show "Som do Brazil" is a showcase for all styles of music from that country as well as people playing brazilian styles of music. His 2 hour weekly show is based on birthday tributes. For example yesterdays show featured "Djavan, Joyce and Stan Getz ". Maybe we can coax him to join our little list here He is truly an authority on this subject. He has some 25 or so recordings of "Waters of March" alone and like 500 albums. did you Know that last Friday the 25th would have been Tom Jobim's 75th Birthday had he have lived. He knows about Basia through me, maybe he can do a birthday tribute to her. Tom Neill check out his play list weekly, to bad you can't hear it. Randy Morse, Producer/Host "Som do Brasil" KZUM 89.3 FM Lincoln, Nebraska USA Web: http://WWW.KZUM.org/som.html E-mail: somdobrasil@alltel.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:48:34 -0000 From: "Alan Mann" Subject: Re: letter writting campaign You will find the following address on the inside cover of the Time and Tide album. Basia P.O. Box 9 Biggin Hill Westerham Kent TN16 3UR United Kingdom - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine" To: Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: letter writting campaign > > What address should we use? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Samurai27@aol.com > To: basia@smoe.org > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:31 AM > Subject: letter writting campaign > > > > Yes that is a shame. Assuming the Biggin hill address is still active maybe > we should start a major campaign to get her back into the world of > entertainment. The Smooth jazz awards are once again in fuill swing. I > currently have been sending in my ballots for Peter White, Rich Braun, and > Dave Koz. It hurts me when I see Sade on the ballot for best female > enteratiner. Its not that I don't think she is good. WHat bothers me is I > believ Basia is better ans she has dropped out of sight. Lets think about > sending our letter to her telling her how much she means to us and that we > want her back. > > denis with one "N" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:13:25 EST From: Mithors@aol.com Subject: Re: Asturd I listend to "The girl from Ipenema" last night, on my Classic Jazz CD volume one after I had read Basia digest #13, and as I was lstening to it, all the simillarities dawend upon me and now I also belive it is about Astrud Gillbereto. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:39:01 -0500 From: pineking@gwi.net Subject: Re: Astrud Encyclopaedia Juannica is a free service of the Basia list, setting it apart further from all the rest.... Astrud is a German goddess, Basia is a Polish saint - (Betty, remember?) I think we're in good company, here. Phil > > At 07:52 PM 1/30/02 -0500, you wrote: > > >As re: Astrud. Anyone know the origins of this particular name? > Astrud's maiden name is Weinert. Her father was a professor of German > and named his three daughters after goddesses of German folklore. The > other two daughters were Eda and Iduna. un abrazo, juan The Bloviator > http://home.bellsouth.net/personalpages/PWP-Bloviator ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:20:58 -0500 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: RE: letter writting campaign Though she don't phone any more We sit and wait In vain > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Samurai27@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:32 AM > To: basia@smoe.org > Subject: letter writting campaign > > > > Yes that is a shame. Assuming the Biggin hill address is still > active maybe we should start a major campaign to get her back > into the world of entertainment. The Smooth jazz awards are once > again in fuill swing. I currently have been sending in my ballots > for Peter White, Rich Braun, and Dave Koz. It hurts me when I see > Sade on the ballot for best female enteratiner. Its not that I > don't think she is good. WHat bothers me is I believ Basia is > better ans she has dropped out of sight. Lets think about sending > our letter to her telling her how much she means to us and that > we want her back. > > denis with one "N" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:36:25 -0500 From: "Jeff Abrams" Subject: RE: Asturd Doesn't anyone else besides me see something horribly WRONG about the subject line of this thread? - --- Jeff Abrams clavier@bellatlantic.net SUPERCHARGED 2.5 liter 1993 Mazda MX-3 GS http://www.mazdamaniac.com Normally aspirated 1997 Mazda MX-5 Miata I think somebody should come up with a way to breed a very large shrimp. That way, you could ride him, then after you camped at night, you could eat him. How about it, science? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Mithors@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:13 PM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: Asturd I listend to "The girl from Ipenema" last night, on my Classic Jazz CD volume one after I had read Basia digest #13, and as I was lstening to it, all the simillarities dawend upon me and now I also belive it is about Astrud Gillbereto. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:19:48 -0700 From: "Steve Richardson" Subject: Fw: Asturd...that is, Astrud Actually, no...Jobim and Vinicius de Moraes were actually inspired by one very real girl (not Astrud) who frequented the beach at Ipanema. She is alive and well, and last I heard doing battle with town officials in Brazil who don't want her any longer to refer to herself as "The Girl from Ipanema." This despite the fact she has a letter from Jobim himself stating she was the girl they wrote the song about. Steve R. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Asturd > > I listend to "The girl from Ipenema" last night, on my Classic Jazz CD volume > one after I had read Basia digest #13, and as I was lstening to it, all the > simillarities dawend upon me and now I also belive it is about Astrud > Gillbereto. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:39:11 -0600 From: Max Wellhouse Subject: Re: Som do Brazil Littl Rock has such a community bvased radio station(when they can afford to pay the light bill for the transmitter). IMS, 2 hour blocks on EVERYTHING from Gospel to Indian music to Jelly Roll Morton to Male Crooners, to 50's C&W. Can you spell Smorgasbord? KABF 88.3. DM&FS At 04:45 PM 1/31/2002 -0600, tom,kelly&jordan wrote: >Hi Everybody, >I love all the buzz about Braziian music. I recently became friends with >(see below) Randy who has the best show on FM radio as far as I am >concerend. In Lincoln we have a very special radio station that is >community supported and I understand there are only a couple like in North >America. Anyway Randy's show "Som do Brazil" is a showcase for all styles >of music from that country as well as people playing brazilian styles of >music. His 2 hour weekly show is based on birthday tributes. For example >yesterdays show featured "Djavan, Joyce and Stan Getz ". Maybe we can coax >him to join our little list here >He is truly an authority on this subject. He has some 25 or so recordings >of "Waters of March" alone and like 500 albums. did you Know that last >Friday the 25th would have been Tom Jobim's 75th Birthday had he have >lived. He knows about Basia through me, maybe he can do a birthday tribute >to her. > > >Tom Neill > > > >check out his play list weekly, to bad you can't hear it. > > > >Randy Morse, Producer/Host >"Som do Brasil" >KZUM 89.3 FM >Lincoln, Nebraska >USA >Web: http://WWW.KZUM.org/som.html >E-mail: somdobrasil@alltel.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:00:50 -0600 From: Max Wellhouse Subject: RE: Asturd Looks fine to me, but then I'm Dyslecsic(can't spll ether!!) DM&FS At 08:36 PM 1/31/2002 -0500, Jeff Abrams wrote: >Doesn't anyone else besides me see something horribly WRONG about the >subject line of this thread? > >--- > >Jeff Abrams >clavier@bellatlantic.net > >SUPERCHARGED 2.5 liter 1993 Mazda MX-3 GS >http://www.mazdamaniac.com >Normally aspirated 1997 Mazda MX-5 Miata > > > I think somebody should come up with a way to breed a very large >shrimp. That way, you could ride him, then after you camped at night, you >could eat him. How about it, science? > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of >Mithors@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:13 PM >To: basia@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Asturd > > > >I listend to "The girl from Ipenema" last night, on my Classic Jazz CD >volume >one after I had read Basia digest #13, and as I was lstening to it, all the >simillarities dawend upon me and now I also belive it is about Astrud >Gillbereto. ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V7 #15 **************************