From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V6 #103 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Thursday, September 27 2001 Volume 06 : Number 103 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Real Music. [Dirk Pilat ] Success [Lipman_Larry ] Appologies ["Star Cruson-Schwierzke" ] RE: Real Music. ["Jeff Abrams" ] Re: Appologies [Leslie Brown ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:18:28 +0100 From: Dirk Pilat Subject: Re: Real Music. on 26/9/01 5:56, Jeff Abrams at clavier@bellatlantic.net wrote: > If you're robbing a bank and you're pants fall down, I think it's > okay to laugh and to let the hostages laugh too, because, come on, life is > funny. ????? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:32:17 -0500 From: Lipman_Larry Subject: Success At 01:15 AM 9/26/2001 -0400, you wrote: >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:54:38 -0700 >From: "Star Cruson-Schwierzke" >Subject: Real Music. > >Hey Guys/Gals, > this is Ed on his wife's address. I have a question. Would Basia be the >person we all view her as, if she had not had the musicians and >complimentary writers to support her talents?. I mean she is a great singing >darling, but without the whole group of people surrounding her, would she >have been able to produce her product. > How many singers and musicians are out there who are not discovered? >Think about that for awhile, and think about the odds she had to overcome to >do what she has done. I am very glad she did overcome those odds. We would >not have had her beautiful talent and her style revealed to us. > Now if only she could get back to business and do what she does best. > ED >------------------------------ It requires an army of people pulling for you to become successful. Writers and publishers to believe enough in your talent to grant you "first rights" to publicly perform their song, producers, engineers, musicians, publicists, promoters, image consultants, concert promoters, touring roadies, radio music directors, record stores, media icons (i.e. Oprah), and...oh yeah...fans! It's amazing ANYONE actually makes it through the maze and can sustain a successful career. It used to be 5 years tops was the longevity of a pop act. I think its down to 3 now. To become a real superstar today...i.e. a truly successful career spanning 10+ years is a REAL achievement. It wouldn't hurt if we quit producing "sound byte" wailing for radio and instead invested in music of substance. LL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 07:41:01 -0700 From: "Star Cruson-Schwierzke" Subject: Appologies Guys/Gals, I didn't mean to refer as intimated by JP that Basia is a product. I meant to music in general. I am a musician and look at as constant work in progress with art. Any thing that is a work, has a product of it. In music today, there several levels of writing, production and talent. While the modern corporate music world is producing it's majority of music at say, a Boone's Farm/TJSwan level for mass consumption, i.e, Rap (crap), Hip Hop, Pop, and the grundge rock phenomena. Consider Basia and the jazz stylings of Sade and Enya's Celtic modernism to be like Napa valley's best wines, (or a good Marzen for our beer experts). We listen to their music well past it's projected life span on the airwaves. W disseminate meaning of the lyrics, and some (myself included) listen to the construction of the final product, ( engineering, recording technique, depth,). So believe me, this is not the note from man who is consuming this product and discarding the remains of the wrapper like a candy bar! The phrase "quality not quantity" has real meaning in this discussion. But at this time, I could use a little quantity from Basia about now. Would you agree? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 08:42 PM Subject: Re: Real Music. > > Hey, I'd love to throw my two cents in on this one! Would Basia have become > successful without the people around her? I would have to say yes. I don't > see her as a "product" made for a consumable and throw-away society which, > while not enabling her to have huge "chart" success, has enabled her to do > her music the way she wants to. The fact that she can write would have made > her successful. Obviously, teaming with Danny was a great stroke of luck, but > luck plays a part in everything. They meshed very well, along with Peter and > his guitar work. > > I'll contrast her with Mariah Carey. I think Mariah has the most incredible > voice out there. I give her lots of credit for writing her own material. That > said, I wish she would let someone a little more "serious" produce her, > because if she did, I don't think anyone could touch her. I'd like to hear > her sing jazzy like Basia can. Instead, she hip-hops around and comes out > with very throw-away music. (Of course, having a great body means your music > is better, right??? Or maybe that's a topic for another time.) > > I listened to TSI on the way to work yesterday. I refrained from singing > backup, and instead really listened. Basia has a tremendous talent. Her low > sounds are throaty and full, her highs are crystal clear, and the nuances in > her voice are such a treat to listen to. She enunciates very very well, > something overlooked in singing, I believe. She may have the Polish/English > accent, but you can hear every word clearly. Over the years, I've told the > young girls who work for me at my store to listen to Basia, because she can > really SING. One girl, a senior in high school, who sings in school plays, > and is quite talented on her own, has become a believer. > > Keep spreading the word, everyone! > > Jim P. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:34:40 -0400 From: "Jeff Abrams" Subject: RE: Real Music. Which part confused you, Dirk? (:; - --- Jeff Abrams clavier@bellatlantic.net SUPERCHARGED 2.5 liter 1993 Mazda MX-3 GS http://www.mazdamaniac.com TURBOCHARGED 1997 Mazda MX-5 Miata Sometimes, when I drive across the desert in the middle of the night, with no other cars around, I start imagining: What if there were no civilization out there? No cities, no factories, no people? And then I think: No people or factories? Then who made this car? And this highway? And I get so confused I have to stick my head out the window into the driving rain---unless there's lightning, because I could get struck on the head by a bolt. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Dirk Pilat Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 5:18 AM To: basia@smoe.org Subject: Re: Real Music. on 26/9/01 5:56, Jeff Abrams at clavier@bellatlantic.net wrote: > If you're robbing a bank and you're pants fall down, I think it's > okay to laugh and to let the hostages laugh too, because, come on, life is > funny. ????? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:57:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Brown Subject: Re: Appologies > Consider Basia and the jazz > stylings of Sade and Enya's Celtic modernism to be > like Napa valley's best wines Oh, do I detect another Northern Californian on the list? ;-) - --Leslie ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V6 #103 ***************************