From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V6 #95 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Tuesday, September 18 2001 Volume 06 : Number 095 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The Insular Americans [JPovlock@aol.com] End the old topic / anyone know of a Basia Video Tape? ["Steve O'Hearn" <] Playing with roses ["Neil Jackson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:41:52 EDT From: JPovlock@aol.com Subject: The Insular Americans Insular. Does that have something to do with insulation? I'm very well aware of that, living her in Buffalo, with only two months to go til winter :) Andrew and your wife, listen up. We have a reasonably civilized country here. We sure as hell aren't perfect, but compared with the rest of the world we look pretty damn good. If your country, with the Catholics and Prodestants, "Christians" supposedly, killing each other in the name of God, can't live in some semblance of decency, then too bad for you. Just don't try to dumb me down to your standards. Try raising yours. Jim P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:49:54 -0400 From: "Steve O'Hearn" Subject: End the old topic / anyone know of a Basia Video Tape? Andrew - To clarify, I didn't say "nobody attacks America". I said "nobody attacks America and gets away with it." Big difference. Yes, American generosity and freedom makes us vulnerable, and some people take advantage of that. Does it make us look foolish to you? On second thought, don't bother answering. I don't really care. Having said that - Does anybody know of any videos of Basia, other than "New Day"? - - Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Andrew Fribbens > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:10 PM > To: basia@smoe.org > Subject: Re: The Smell of a Sympathiser > > > > Funny thing Steve I thought that they did attack America with your own > planes trained in your own country by people living among your own and yes > they did get away with it because those people are now dead living with > their Allah > > > ------------------------------------ > Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! > http://www.eboom.com/free/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve O'Hearn" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:54 PM > Subject: RE: The Smell of a Sympathiser > > > > > > MCH - > > > > What if America *DID* do something to provoke it? Would that change > > anything? > > > > Not saying we did, not saying we didn't. Just asking. > > > > I'm still trying to sort this entire thing out. > > > > - Steve > > > > P.S. And no matter what - NOBODY attacks America and gets away with it. > > Period. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of MCH > > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:30 AM > > > To: basia@smoe.org > > > Subject: Re: The Smell of a Sympathiser > > > > > > > > > > > > > approach as seen at this time is a good start. Now the USA has > > > tasted what > > > > many other countries have had to suffer for so many years,Welcome to > the > > > > club > > > > > > You forget that New York has already been bombed, in 1993--and that > > > US outposts have already suffered terrorist bombings--as much or more > > > than other nations--for many years. I'm personally offended by your > > > phrase "welcome to the club"; it smells like you have a bit > of personal > > > satisfaction or vindication that these attacks occurred. I don't > > > like that > > > smell. > > > > > > > most important thing for us all to do is try to understand why > > > people hate > > > > so much to commit these kind of acts. Are we all totally > > > without sin that we > > > > can cast the stone ???? Some understanding is needed to try to > > > put right > > > > > > That's bullshit. > > > > > > When terrorists attack it is very important NOT to > > > "try to understand". That's cowardice, and "blaming the > > > victim". Withholding dialog is the first requirement of > > > self-defense, so that the enemy realizes that all > > > communication has been lost, and death is certain. > > > > > > Would you have also "tried to understand" the Nazis? > > > (Yeah, now it *IS* relevant... sorry.) > > > > > > And yes, we are without sin. America, and most certainly > > > those 5000 people, didn't do A SINGLE THING to > > > provoke this. Yes, we can cast the stone--with the cleanest > > > of clean conscience. Let us hope that our military, and > > > our allies, will start by erasing the Taliban death-monks from > > > the face of the earth, to the last man; let us pray that the nation > > > of Afghanistan in its current form, simply ceases to exist. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:03:21 +0100 From: "Neil Jackson" Subject: Playing with roses Reading someof the things that have been said in the past few days is nothing short of bewildering. It's like reading a bunch of playschool kids going at it. And like playing with roses...you always get at least one or two pricks. Can we grow up, move on with sympathy in our hearts and discuss something else? ....please. (genteel enough?) N ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V6 #95 **************************