From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V6 #18 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Wednesday, February 21 2001 Volume 06 : Number 018 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Top 10 ["Navaira" ] Re: Top Ten ["Navaira" ] Re: Fat Lips ["Navaira" ] Re: Change in style ["Navaira" ] RE: Basia moment ["Brian Cundieff" ] Re: Fat Lips [Aaron Cockroft ] Re: Basia moment [John Flood ] Re: Angel's Blush [John Flood ] Re: Change in style ["Jim \(JR\) Reider" ] Re: Change in style ["Jim \(JR\) Reider" ] Basia's label? [Brainerd/Racine Ink ] Fw: Basia's label? ["Steve Richardson" ] Re: Basia's label? [Samurai27@aol.com] Re: Angel's Blush ["ERNEST L GUNTER" ] Re: Market Niche? [VOKALYZER@aol.com] Remove [Amadeaus@aol.com] Re: Basia's label/niche ["MCH" ] Re: Basia's label/niche [Brainerd/Racine Ink ] Fw: Basia's label/niche ["Steve Richardson" ] Re: Fw: Basia's label/niche [JPovlock@aol.com] Re: Basia's label/niche Feedback ["Jim C" ] RE: Basia moment [Leslie Brown ] remove [andrea Sztajnkrycer ] Re: Remove [RichardA_Perez@timeinc.com] REMOVE [RichardA_Perez@timeinc.com] Roswell ["ERNEST L GUNTER" ] record label [jp ] RE: Basia moment [pineking@gwi.net] RE: Basia moment [into_the_arena@webtv.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:18:51 +0100 From: "Navaira" Subject: Re: Top 10 > can >> peopl name thier top ten Basia songs? I can name mine: 1) Cruising for Bruising 2) Copernicus 3) Take him back Rachel 4) Drunk on love 5) New day for you 6) Brave new hope 7) How dare you (seriously!) 8) An olive tree 9) Drunk on love (Roger Sanchez club mix) 10) Time and tide (-) Ray + find your mescaline at www.navaira.prv.pl -------------------+ [ number one this week: rui da silva "touch me" ---------------] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:28:02 +0100 From: "Navaira" Subject: Re: Top Ten > So, here's the list... > > Astrud > Reward That's exactly what happens when you compile a top ten without the albums at hand: I forgot Reward and My Cruel Ways!!!!! Grrrrrrrr. (-) Ray + find your mescaline at www.navaira.prv.pl -------------------+ [ number one this week: rui da silva "touch me" ---------------] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:27:11 +0100 From: "Navaira" Subject: Re: Fat Lips > But I did see the face of a terrified woman at Food Lion (a grocery chain) > a couple days ago. She pulled her grocery cart away - the child riding in > it was laughing and pointing. At me. I realized that as I was choosing the > tarter sauce, the store intercom had me dancing and singing along - > "Baby, you're mine, you are blowing my mind > We are two of a kind, Baby, you're really mine" > > un abrazo, > juan HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :))) Sorry, that's the story of the year. I remember myself once walking down the street and singing "Too Funky" and the drunken man trying to grab me, but that's not even 5% as amusing. Thanks for sharing :) (-) Ray + find your mescaline at www.navaira.prv.pl -------------------+ [ number one this week: rui da silva "touch me" ---------------] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:32:51 +0100 From: "Navaira" Subject: Re: Change in style > How might her style have to change in order to accommodate the current > market? Any ideas? She might need to take Poof Daddy as a producer. :P Seriously, though, I don't know really. I think she's unique enough to always have an audience; worse though, the audience may have shrunk so much that nobody will want to release her album :((((( Of course, I don't know anything about the US radio but here... I recently saw an article about Polish music in the foreign market (and it wasn't a joyful article) which mentioned the 'too sophisticated for words Basia Trzetrzelewska'. Maybe she should simplify the things a bit; as much as I love "An olive tree", it's by far the most complicated pop song I have ever heard. Less complicated arrangements? I'd, actually, love her to do a Bjork-sounding record; electronic, minimal drums, orchestral arrangements and on top of that her unbelievable harmonies. I think this would shake the world. Of course, she can always do a Sade and release the same album every eight years... in this case I'd like to see another "London Warsaw New York", as it's my favourite. *back to work* (-) Ray + find your mescaline at www.navaira.prv.pl -------------------+ [ number one this week: rui da silva "touch me" ---------------] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:24:42 +0900 From: "Brian Cundieff" Subject: RE: Basia moment From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of John Flood Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:44 AM > ... but I can easily tell you the > ONLY Basia song I actually dislike so much I have to hit the > 'song skip' button: ANGEL'S BLUSH. I don't like the song either. A little too sugary. But They did play it on the radio Christmas morning, just as I was getting into my car. I have to admit it was nice. Here's bad: "R2-D2, we wish you a merry Christmas! R2-D2, we love you, it's true! R2-D2, we wish you a merry CHRISTmas! We hope our little message gets to you." Maybe not as bad as the Loretta Lynn song, but I'm holding it up for 2nd place. - -Brian* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:13:05 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Cockroft Subject: Re: Fat Lips Funny re: grocery store! I do that all the time, it seems Basia is played in every chain restaurant and grocery here in Pittsburgh. So much that I have had friends over and when I've played Basia on the stereo they say "Oh! That's that lady from the grocery store!" Cheers! Aaron - --- Navaira wrote: > > > But I did see the face of a terrified woman at Food Lion (a grocery > chain) > > a couple days ago. She pulled her grocery cart away - the child > riding in > > it was laughing and pointing. At me. I realized that as I was > choosing the > > tarter sauce, the store intercom had me dancing and singing along - > > "Baby, you're mine, you are blowing my mind > > We are two of a kind, Baby, you're really mine" > > > > un abrazo, > > juan > HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :))) Sorry, that's the story of the year. I > remember > myself once walking down the street and singing "Too Funky" and the > drunken > man trying to grab me, but that's not even 5% as amusing. Thanks for > sharing > :) > > > (-) Ray > > + find your mescaline at www.navaira.prv.pl -------------------+ > [ number one this week: rui da silva "touch me" ---------------] Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:33:06 -0800 From: John Flood Subject: Re: Basia moment WHAT! You dare to mess with THE FORCE! Dissin R2-D2! George Lucas is 2nd only to Basia in 'sacredness'! lol OK, so maybe Angel's Blush can pass Loretta and move up a tad on the Xmass list. Still debating my top 10......... John Brian Cundieff wrote: > From: owner-basia@smoe.org [mailto:owner-basia@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > John Flood > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:44 AM > > > ... but I can easily tell you the > > ONLY Basia song I actually dislike so much I have to hit the > > 'song skip' button: ANGEL'S BLUSH. > > I don't like the song either. A little too sugary. But They did play it on > the radio Christmas morning, just as I was getting into my car. I have to > admit it was nice. > > Here's bad: > "R2-D2, we wish you a merry Christmas! R2-D2, we love you, it's true! R2-D2, > we wish you a merry CHRISTmas! We hope our little message gets to you." > Maybe not as bad as the Loretta Lynn song, but I'm holding it up for 2nd > place. > > -Brian* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:34:57 -0800 From: John Flood Subject: Re: Angel's Blush Hehe, I love that one 2, plus there is a little played song on the John Denver & the Muppets Xmas album that I gotta admit to liking, but I can't think of the name offhand. sigh. Old age, ya know. John into_the_arena@webtv.net wrote: > Guilty Xmas pleasure: > 'Snoopy's Christmas'- Royal Guardsmen > Obviously bad by virtue of existence, but that > damned chorus of "Christmas Bells" hooked > me as a child and I STILL sing to it. > Every time. > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > +++++++++++++++ > http://community.webtv.net/into_the_arena/Asia > Received: from smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.30) by > storefull-612.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 > 19:27:28 -0800 (PST) > Received: by smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 2AE73145; > Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:27:28 -0800 (PST) > Delivered-To: into_the_arena@webtv.net > Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [216.200.102.14]) by > smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B2FEB > for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:27:27 -0800 (PST) > Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org > (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id WAA23037; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 > 22:22:56 -0500 (EST) > Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:22:29 > -0500 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) > id WAA22986 for basia-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:21:41 -0500 (EST) > Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id WAA22976 for > ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:21:35 -0500 (EST) > From: JPovlock@aol.com > Received: from JPovlock@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) > id p.43.10e52ccd (9665) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 > 22:20:32 -0500 (EST) > Message-ID: <43.10e52ccd.27c33c7f@aol.com> > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:20:31 EST > Subject: Re: Angel's Blush > To: basia@smoe.org > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 128 > Sender: owner-basia@smoe.org > Reply-To: basia@smoe.org > X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-request@smoe.org" > X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. > Precedence: bulk > > John - do you REALLY REALLY think the song is THAT bad??? > > The WORST Christmas song I've ever heard came on a compilation CD, The Stars > Come Out For Christmas. It had a song called "Shadrack the Black Reindeer", > sung by Loretta Lynn. Shadrack was goofing around, and hid the key to Santa's > sleigh, but Santa forgave him because he was the fastest reindeer there was. > The song was so filled with god-awful stereotypes that I cringed when I heard > it. It must be very old, it's not something you would record today. > > Jim P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:29:03 -0600 From: "Jim \(JR\) Reider" Subject: Re: Change in style OK, how about Basia, produced by Prince? Hip Hop and pop, put to a smooth jazz beat? Too much? Too Little? JR - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Navaira" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:32 AM Subject: Re: Change in style > > > How might her style have to change in order to accommodate the current > > market? Any ideas? > She might need to take Poof Daddy as a producer. :P Seriously, though, I > don't know really. I think she's unique enough to always have an audience; > worse though, the audience may have shrunk so much that nobody will want to > release her album :((((( Of course, I don't know anything about the US radio > but here... I recently saw an article about Polish music in the foreign > market (and it wasn't a joyful article) which mentioned the 'too > sophisticated for words Basia Trzetrzelewska'. Maybe she should simplify the > things a bit; as much as I love "An olive tree", it's by far the most > complicated pop song I have ever heard. Less complicated arrangements? I'd, > actually, love her to do a Bjork-sounding record; electronic, minimal drums, > orchestral arrangements and on top of that her unbelievable harmonies. I > think this would shake the world. Of course, she can always do a Sade and > release the same album every eight years... in this case I'd like to see > another "London Warsaw New York", as it's my favourite. > > *back to work* > > (-) Ray > > + find your mescaline at www.navaira.prv.pl -------------------+ > [ number one this week: rui da silva "touch me" ---------------] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:29:51 -0600 From: "Jim \(JR\) Reider" Subject: Re: Change in style BTW...my vote for favorite album is Basia on Broadway--I always like it live, if possible... JR - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Navaira" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:32 AM Subject: Re: Change in style > > > How might her style have to change in order to accommodate the current > > market? Any ideas? > She might need to take Poof Daddy as a producer. :P Seriously, though, I > don't know really. I think she's unique enough to always have an audience; > worse though, the audience may have shrunk so much that nobody will want to > release her album :((((( Of course, I don't know anything about the US radio > but here... I recently saw an article about Polish music in the foreign > market (and it wasn't a joyful article) which mentioned the 'too > sophisticated for words Basia Trzetrzelewska'. Maybe she should simplify the > things a bit; as much as I love "An olive tree", it's by far the most > complicated pop song I have ever heard. Less complicated arrangements? I'd, > actually, love her to do a Bjork-sounding record; electronic, minimal drums, > orchestral arrangements and on top of that her unbelievable harmonies. I > think this would shake the world. Of course, she can always do a Sade and > release the same album every eight years... in this case I'd like to see > another "London Warsaw New York", as it's my favourite. > > *back to work* > > (-) Ray > > + find your mescaline at www.navaira.prv.pl -------------------+ > [ number one this week: rui da silva "touch me" ---------------] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:47:03 -0800 From: Brainerd/Racine Ink Subject: Basia's label? Stephen--you're right about the mountains--they've been snow covered this last week, which is rare for our part of the San Gabriels. My husband and I don't get why Basia doesn't have a dozen labels courting her. Do you know any more? Can we write the label she most interested in to encourage them? Lee At 08:58 AM 2/19/01 -0800, you wrote: >>I am out of the loop, by why did Sony drop her or vice versa? Isn't she a >>great asset to any label? >> >>Lee in Altadena California > >Lee, > >You need to get out of those mountains more often. LOL! Yes, it was Basia >that left Sony, and is shopping for a new label. > >BTW, which if you is from Northern Minnesota? > > >Stephen Ylvisaker >greyfell@iname.com >"That's the whole problem with science. You've got a bunch of empiricists >trying to describe things of unimaginable wonder." - Calvin (& Hobbes) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:45:30 -0700 From: "Steve Richardson" Subject: Fw: Basia's label? I'd like to see Basia on a smaller label where they'd let her do her own thing. The mega-labels are too concerned with selling millions of copies. Let's face it, much as we love Basia, she's never going to attain Madonna/Britney/N'sync-sized sales figures. A label like Candid would be perfect. I believe they are located in England, but they also release their CD's here in the states. The wonderful jazz singer Stacey Kent is on Candid, and is doing quite well. I hope Basia won't limit herself to just considering the very large record labels. Wherever she ends up, she needs to get back to work, before she is just another "whatever happened to..." type trivia question. 3 albums of new material in the past 15 years is just not enough - no matter how superb those 3 albums are! Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:10:26 EST From: Samurai27@aol.com Subject: Re: Basia's label? Hi all. I can remember meeting a few session musicians on a cruise when in florida. When I asked about Basia and why Sony was dropping her, they told me that all the big recording labels were starting to do this. Any artist, regardless to how big we thought they were was being scrutanized based on the number of gigs (concerts) and CDs they produced. I believe they want their top tier artists to produce a new cd at least every 18 months. If you look at the bid artists in smooth jazz such as Peter White, Bony James, David Benoit and Dave Koz; they have a new one every 18 months or so. Peter White has a new one coming out this summer and Rich Braun just came out with a new one. You can't have concerts unless you have new works to promote. There usto be an old line in the education field "Publish or Perish". I believe the record labels are starting to take this to an all-time meaning. The problem is once a big company like Sony drops you, other companies ask why. If the reason is she takes too long to publish, then this becomes a problem. She almost needs to re-build her credibility regarding her creativity. Thats my two cents. denis with one "N" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:29:53 -0800 From: "ERNEST L GUNTER" Subject: Re: Angel's Blush It wasn't "Please Daddy, Don't Get Drunk This Christmas... I Don't Want To See My Mamma Cry" was it? Don't listen to it because you will never forget the tune. Thelma - -----Original Message----- From: John Flood To: basia@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: Re: Angel's Blush > >Hehe, I love that one 2, plus there is a little played song on the John Denver & >the Muppets Xmas album that I gotta admit to liking, but I can't think of the >name offhand. sigh. Old age, ya know. >John > > >into_the_arena@webtv.net wrote: > >> Guilty Xmas pleasure: >> 'Snoopy's Christmas'- Royal Guardsmen >> Obviously bad by virtue of existence, but that >> damned chorus of "Christmas Bells" hooked >> me as a child and I STILL sing to it. >> Every time. >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> +++++++++++++++ >> http://community.webtv.net/into_the_arena/Asia >> Received: from smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.30) by >> storefull-612.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 >> 19:27:28 -0800 (PST) >> Received: by smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 2AE73145; >> Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:27:28 -0800 (PST) >> Delivered-To: into_the_arena@webtv.net >> Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [216.200.102.14]) by >> smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B2FEB >> for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:27:27 -0800 (PST) >> Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org >> (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id WAA23037; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 >> 22:22:56 -0500 (EST) >> Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:22:29 >> -0500 >> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) >> id WAA22986 for basia-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:21:41 -0500 (EST) >> Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) >> by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id WAA22976 for >> ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:21:35 -0500 (EST) >> From: JPovlock@aol.com >> Received: from JPovlock@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) >> id p.43.10e52ccd (9665) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 >> 22:20:32 -0500 (EST) >> Message-ID: <43.10e52ccd.27c33c7f@aol.com> >> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:20:31 EST >> Subject: Re: Angel's Blush >> To: basia@smoe.org >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 128 >> Sender: owner-basia@smoe.org >> Reply-To: basia@smoe.org >> X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-request@smoe.org" >> X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. >> Precedence: bulk >> >> John - do you REALLY REALLY think the song is THAT bad??? >> >> The WORST Christmas song I've ever heard came on a compilation CD, The Stars >> Come Out For Christmas. It had a song called "Shadrack the Black Reindeer", >> sung by Loretta Lynn. Shadrack was goofing around, and hid the key to Santa's >> sleigh, but Santa forgave him because he was the fastest reindeer there was. >> The song was so filled with god-awful stereotypes that I cringed when I heard >> it. It must be very old, it's not something you would record today. >> >> Jim P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:37:02 EST From: VOKALYZER@aol.com Subject: Re: Market Niche? In a way, I understand the no airplay thing, but I discovered Basia through the "Time and Tide" video, which I saw just once on BET. After that, every time there was a new CD, I just got it. LWNY I happened to hear in Tower Records, NY. In LA, where I live, TSI is the only one of her CDs that got much airplay, yet you say that sold the fewest copies. Go figure! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:08:49 EST From: Amadeaus@aol.com Subject: Remove ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:18:27 -0800 From: "MCH" Subject: Re: Basia's label/niche > I'd like to see Basia on a smaller label where they'd let her do her own > thing. The mega-labels are too concerned with selling millions of copies. I would like to see a modest tour, some smaller, more intimate venues, rather than arenas--back to the roots so to speak, reconnect with the fans, warm up for bigger things. Also, a safe environment to experiment, and she might experiment a bit with electronica, imho. Like I've said before, vocals with electronica like 808 State or similar, more modern material. Perhaps not as hard-edged as 808 State... but at least dabble in the wildness and creativity that exists in those genres. Possibly get a slice of a completely different market. Electronic jazz is right next door, so to speak, it's just one step. And it can definitely get you on the mainstream radio, like Air a couple years ago ("All I Need"). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:42:37 -0800 From: Brainerd/Racine Ink Subject: Re: Basia's label/niche who knows the names/addresses of her manager/agents or how to find out so we can send some of our brilliant ideas? I will call Sony in L.A. and see if they can give me any forwarding address. Lee At 10:18 AM 2/20/01 -0800, you wrote: > > I'd like to see Basia on a smaller label where they'd let her do her own > > thing. The mega-labels are too concerned with selling millions of copies. > >I would like to see a modest tour, some smaller, more intimate venues, >rather than arenas--back to the roots so to speak, reconnect with the >fans, warm up for bigger things. Also, a safe environment to experiment, >and she might experiment a bit with electronica, imho. Like I've said >before, vocals with electronica like 808 State or similar, more modern >material. Perhaps not as hard-edged as 808 State... but at least dabble >in the wildness and creativity that exists in those genres. Possibly get a >slice of a completely different market. Electronic jazz is right next door, >so to speak, it's just one step. And it can definitely get you on the >mainstream radio, like Air a couple years ago ("All I Need"). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:02:52 -0700 From: "Steve Richardson" Subject: Fw: Basia's label/niche I couldn't agree more. I've been fortunate, the 3 times I've seen Basia were all in fairly moderate-sized halls, 1500-2000 capacity. The larger the hall the less intimate the experience. How's this for a fantasy show: a small club, 100-200 capacity. Peter White opens with a 30-minute solo set, then Basia, Danny and Peter play 2 hours of classics and new songs. Basia Unplugged! I know, we might miss the big band and backup singers on some songs, but I know they could put on a great show. Years ago I saw Peter White with Al Stewart in a small club, just the two of them, and it was fantastic, really great to hear the songs in a stripped-down version and with the performers close to the audience. > steve > I would like to see a modest tour, some smaller, more intimate venues, > rather than arenas--back to the roots so to speak, reconnect with the > fans, warm up for bigger things. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:10:00 EST From: JPovlock@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: Basia's label/niche Basia without Kevin and the band???? Be careful, Leslie is gonna get you for such heresy!!! Jim P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:23:13 -0600 From: "Jim C" Subject: Re: Basia's label/niche Feedback // who knows the names/addresses of her manager/agents or how to find out so we can send some of our brilliant ideas? // There have been some wonderful ideas in this thread. Tonight, all of today's ML messages should be written to a new message archive. Tommorrow, I'll send Peter White an Email with a link to today's archive file, and recommend that he or his managers forward it to Basia's group. It might be helpful if others from this ML do the same, especially those of you who correspond with Peter White. The link to the list of archives is http://www.smoe.org/lists/basia/ ; tomorrow you can scroll down to the bottom of the list, and display the 21-Feb-2001 archive for a direct link to today's messages (Messages are archived at 01:15am, server time). Peter White's email address is email@peterwhite.com and his web site is http://peterwhite.com/ ~Jim >From: Brainerd/Racine Ink >Reply-To: basia@smoe.org >To: basia@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Basia's label/niche >Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:42:37 -0800 > > >who knows the names/addresses of her manager/agents or how to find out so >we can send some of our brilliant ideas? I will call Sony in L.A. and see >if they can give me any forwarding address. Lee > > >At 10:18 AM 2/20/01 -0800, you wrote: > > > > I'd like to see Basia on a smaller label where they'd let her do her >own > > > thing. The mega-labels are too concerned with selling millions of >copies. > > > >I would like to see a modest tour, some smaller, more intimate venues, > >rather than arenas--back to the roots so to speak, reconnect with the > >fans, warm up for bigger things. Also, a safe environment to >experiment, > >and she might experiment a bit with electronica, imho. Like I've said > >before, vocals with electronica like 808 State or similar, more modern > >material. Perhaps not as hard-edged as 808 State... but at least dabble > >in the wildness and creativity that exists in those genres. Possibly get >a > >slice of a completely different market. Electronic jazz is right next >door, > >so to speak, it's just one step. And it can definitely get you on the > >mainstream radio, like Air a couple years ago ("All I Need"). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:13:16 -0800 (PST) From: Leslie Brown Subject: RE: Basia moment > Here's bad: > "R2-D2, we wish you a merry Christmas! R2-D2, we > love you, it's true! R2-D2, > we wish you a merry CHRISTmas! We hope our little > message gets to you." Oy vey. And I love the Force too. :) You guys have some great points. I agree about smaller venues; I saw her at a giant amphitheatre on the last tour and I hated being in this cavern with a bunch of people who barely knew who she was because they got free tickets (yes, they were giving them away!) I just hope she's up to record again at all. I wonder. 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Author: basia@smoe.org (owner-basia@smoe.org) at TIME_INC Date: 2/20/01 12:37 PM In a way, I understand the no airplay thing, but I discovered Basia through the "Time and Tide" video, which I saw just once on BET. After that, every time there was a new CD, I just got it. LWNY I happened to hear in Tower Records, NY. In LA, where I live, TSI is the only one of her CDs that got much airplay, yet you say that sold the fewest copies. Go figure! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:08:11 -0800 From: "ERNEST L GUNTER" Subject: Roswell Hey, My daughter who knows Basia quite well said that they played "One Note Samba" with Basia singing on the show (Roswell) last night. Does anyone watch that to confirm what she said she heard? Thelma ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:29:50 -0500 From: jp Subject: record label I don't know that we have ever heard for sure why Basia is looking for a new label. The only hint I had was a story on Bloomberg Business News' wire service back in 1996 that said that Sony was dropping a number of artists who were not selling a lot of CDs. Since Basia has not had a complete new CD since 1994, I think she would fall into that category. un abrazo, juan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:19:59 -0500 From: pineking@gwi.net Subject: RE: Basia moment I thought the Big Basia Moment would be the Broadway gig. In that it would be filmed and then televised a'la Sade's PBS special of a few years back. I find it difficult to imagine there is no footage in existence of that week of perfs at the Simon Theater. Here's hoping two things: 1 - Upon her return to public scrutiny she is indeed recognised as an artist sorely missed, and showered by the media with the kind of attention 'Sade' received last year with her/their reappearance. 2 - That Basia's new material/album not be as insipid, over- achieving and unmelodic as was 'Sade's' latest. A lesson for all has-been artists is readily available from Steely Dan's recent example: If your future is to include success, don't forget what made you successful in the first place! Phil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:53:07 -0500 (EST) From: into_the_arena@webtv.net Subject: RE: Basia moment I agree wholeheartedly. I think Basia's fans will all come back to her, and with proper attention she will connect with newer listeners-- if she remains true to her own style and direction. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++ http://community.webtv.net/into_the_arena/Asia Received: from smtpin-102-2.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.99) by storefull-618.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:28:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-102-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 2142B175; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:28:21 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: into_the_arena@webtv.net Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [216.200.102.14]) by smtpin-102-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 4102D112 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id UAA27716; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:21:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id UAA27633 for basia-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from chiana.gwi.net (chiana.gwi.net [207.5.128.76]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with SMTP id UAA27623 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:20:04 -0500 (EST) From: pineking@gwi.net Received: (qmail 6472 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 01:20:01 -0000 Received: from d-207-5-176-105.gwi.net (HELO computer) (207.5.176.105) by mail.gwi.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 01:20:01 -0000 To: basia@smoe.org Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:19:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Basia moment Message-ID: <3A92D16F.3429.882E4A@localhost> In-reply-to: <20010220211316.29837.qmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> References: <001e01c09b38$1a0b5cc0$cadbb3cb@vaio> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-basia@smoe.org Reply-To: basia@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk I thought the Big Basia Moment would be the Broadway gig. In that it would be filmed and then televised a'la Sade's PBS special of a few years back. I find it difficult to imagine there is no footage in existence of that week of perfs at the Simon Theater. Here's hoping two things: 1 - Upon her return to public scrutiny she is indeed recognised as an artist sorely missed, and showered by the media with the kind of attention 'Sade' received last year with her/their reappearance. 2 - That Basia's new material/album not be as insipid, over- achieving and unmelodic as was 'Sade's' latest. A lesson for all has-been artists is readily available from Steely Dan's recent example: If your future is to include success, don't forget what made you successful in the first place! Phil ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V6 #18 **************************