From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V4 #221 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Monday, November 8 1999 Volume 04 : Number 221 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The Brit Responds: Masquerade Query [Jan Johnson ] Re: Roach ["Jim Clary" ] Re: Roach ["Joe Palcher" ] Re: Roach ["Jim Clary" ] Re: Roach [Beverly Martin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 15:45:30 +0000 From: Jan Johnson Subject: The Brit Responds: Masquerade Query At 01:15 07/11/1999 -0500, you wrote: >I hate to betray my ignorance, but which CD is "Masquerade" on? >TIA >Jim Clary jclary@fastlane.net In answer to your question Jim, it's on the 'Brave New Hope' EP and also on 'The Best Remixes II'. Previous enquiries on this list revealed that whatever CD you listen to, it's actually the same track. Still think the 'Uh Huhs' (is it Danny?) sound like Beavis and Butthead, but aside from that it's a truly awesome song. Can't understand how come it got hidden away on the EP though. Same with 'Come to Heaven'. Just think, you could buy the three 'main' albums and never know these songs existed!! Just like Monica in the 'Friends' episode. Boy, was THAT funny. Thanks so much to Ray for that little bit of creativity. Haven't had anything which was so worth falling off of my chair for ages!! **departs, singing** "Smelly cat, smeeeeeeelly cat............." ~ Jan p.s. Anyone ELSE want the Yorkshire pudding recipe? Seven requests for it so far. Always happy to oblige. p.p.s. Do you think we should all go around the houses again introducing ourselves? So many new faces, it'd be great to know where everyone hails from. Especially if you're from Ohio guys. I visit often!! Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry. - Mark Twain ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:19:48 -0500 From: "Joe Palcher" Subject: We can all purchase "So Nice" from an American webpage! OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD!!! For all us Americans--I have found out a way to buy "So Nice" without having to pay an arm and a leg for it! A site that specializes in selling CDs from Asian artists, http://www.asiacd.com , has it! It sells Chinese, Korean, and Japanese CDs. The site is mostly in Chinese and English, so there will be no problem navigating it. If you are interested, follow the link for Japanese CDs on the left, then the link for Male Singers. In the left column of artists, Taro Hakase's name (listed as "Hakase Taro") is listed. Click on that, and the single should be listed at top with a picture. The overseas version is only $8.99 plus $0.99 for shipping. Not too bad for an import! Tell me if any of you guys are going to get it! I know I will! raburabu joe P.S. I can hardly believe that I stumbled upon this! The insanity if I never had! I think I'm going to burst a corpuscle. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:46:03 -0600 From: "Jim Clary" Subject: Re: We can all purchase "So Nice" from an American webpage! Joe Palcher wrote, > For all us Americans--I have found out a way to buy "So Nice" without > having to pay an arm and a leg for it! Good deal Joe, thanks. I had been keeping an eye peeled but had not come across a website which sold it. That *is* So Nice a Price for a CD import from Japan, $9.99 total. Doubt if anyone could beat that price. Jim Clary jclary@fastlane.net Wrinkles should merely indicate where smiles have been. - Mark Twain ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:56:31 -0600 From: "Jim Clary" Subject: Re: The Brit Responds: Masquerade Query Jan Johnson wrote, re. "Maquerade" > > In answer to your question Jim, it's on the 'Brave New Hope' EP and also on > 'The Best Remixes II'. Previous enquiries on this list revealed that > whatever CD you listen to, it's actually the same track. Still think the > 'Uh Huhs' (is it Danny?) sound like Beavis and Butthead, but aside from > that it's a truly awesome song. Can't understand how come it got hidden > away on the EP though. > Thanks Jan. re. B&B, I have seen every episode at least once (I over 40 FWIW) so I will listen to see if Danny(if it *is* Danny) sounds like Butthead. Another question: I already have a good idea what an EP contains(old/remix+new), but could you please s'plain to me just what "EP" stands for? "Extended Play" comes to mind, but I don't think so... Now that "It's Safe" (see: 70's film "Marathon Man") to go off-topic again, I can never forget the Great Debate in the US regarding B&B. I am not sure who raised the issue, although Tipper Gore comes to mind. The mulling was over the impact of B&B on the Youth of America. There was quite a stir in the corridors of Washington and Hollywood over this Most Critical Issue. The debate raged for weeks. Then, U.S. Sen. Ernest Hollings, D-S.C. found the whole affair so outrageous that he denounced "Beaver and Buffcoat"(sic) at congressional hearings. MTV finally quietened things down by bumping the program runtime up by a couple of hours; also they added the front-end disclaimer, "...Don't try this at home". Jim Clary jclary@fastlane.net The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. - Albert Einstein - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Johnson To: Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 9:45 AM Subject: The Brit Responds: Masquerade Query ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:04:29 -0800 From: Bob & Janine Hester Subject: Re: The Brit Responds: Masquerade Query Well, I agree with Jan. My name is Bob Hester, and I hail from Portland Oregon area. And have been a fan of Basia since her her first solo CD hit the airwaves. *smile* Saw her in concert with Ottmar Liebert in Sacramento. Gosh that was back in 90... *grin* ******************************************** Jan Johnson wrote: > At 01:15 07/11/1999 -0500, you wrote: > >I hate to betray my ignorance, but which CD is "Masquerade" on? > >TIA > >Jim Clary jclary@fastlane.net > > In answer to your question Jim, it's on the 'Brave New Hope' EP and also on > 'The Best Remixes II'. Previous enquiries on this list revealed that > whatever CD you listen to, it's actually the same track. Still think the > 'Uh Huhs' (is it Danny?) sound like Beavis and Butthead, but aside from > that it's a truly awesome song. Can't understand how come it got hidden > away on the EP though. Same with 'Come to Heaven'. Just think, you could > buy the three 'main' albums and never know these songs existed!! Just like > Monica in the 'Friends' episode. Boy, was THAT funny. Thanks so much to Ray > for that little bit of creativity. Haven't had anything which was so worth > falling off of my chair for ages!! > > **departs, singing** "Smelly cat, smeeeeeeelly cat............." > > ~ Jan > > p.s. Anyone ELSE want the Yorkshire pudding recipe? Seven requests for it > so far. Always happy to oblige. > > p.p.s. Do you think we should all go around the houses again introducing > ourselves? So many new faces, it'd be great to know where everyone hails > from. Especially if you're from Ohio guys. I visit often!! > > Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry. > - Mark Twain ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:24:45 -0800 From: Kevin Segura Subject: Re: The Brit Responds: Masquerade Query Actually, your guess is right, Jim... the abbreviation "EP" was first used in the 1950s to designate an "Extended Play" 45 RPM single, which was a single that had (usually) 2 songs on each side, rather than just one. Many popular artists released EPs during the 50s and 60s, and some have become quite collectible over the years, because they were usually issued with cardboard picture sleeves, much more colorful and durable than the paper ones used for standard singles. As a side note (and I'm sure Jan knows this), for quite some time in the 50s/60s, it was a tradition in the UK not to issue singles on LPs, as is was felt that this would be cheating the record buyer into purchasing the same song twice... quite different from the practice in the US, you may note!! EPs, though, were usually made up of selected tracks from the artists new album, and offered the consumer a cheap way to sample the album before they decided whether or not to buy. The Beatles' UK catalog probably best illustrates all of this: separate albums, singles and a clutch of EPs (consisting usually of tracks extracted from a then-current LP). I'm sure that was more than you wanted to know, Jim... but there ya go. - -Kevin soundman@inetarena.com Jim Clary wrote: > I already have a good idea what an EP > contains(old/remix+new), but could you please s'plain to me just what "EP" > stands for? "Extended Play" comes to mind, but I don't think so... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:48:16 -0500 From: "Joe Palcher" Subject: Re: The Brit Responds: Masquerade Query Kevin Segura wrote: "As a side note (and I'm sure Jan knows this), for quite some time in the 50s/60s, it was a tradition in the UK not to issue singles on LPs, as is was felt that this would be cheating the record buyer into purchasing the same song twice... quite different from the practice in the US, you may note!! EPs, though, were usually made up of selected tracks from the artists new album, and offered the consumer a cheap way to sample the album before they decided whether or not to buy." That is interesting what you wrote, Kevin. Not selling singles as not to cheat the consumer into buying the same song twice if you bought the single and album. Now, if you look at the Billboard music charts, you see more and more of a trend of single versions of songs not being released (or released much later after a song is released on radio and MTV) as a single version. The record industry here obviously is trying to force the American consumer to buy the album if they like one song, meaning they'd be more apt to buy the album if they like one song if there isn't a single available, thus raking in more money. I think that is why recently the Backstreet Boy's "Millennium" and Lou Bega's album have sold so much--because the singles weren't available (though "Mambo No. 5" has recently been released on single). I think this is unfortunate for the American consumer. raburabu joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:22:49 EST From: JPovlock@aol.com Subject: B & B Wait a minute, wait a minute, Beavis and Butthead sing backup on Masquerade, and someone was complaining about Weird Al?? At least he's a real musician! Jim P. (laughing hysterically) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:43:44 -0600 From: "Jim Clary" Subject: Re: The Brit Responds: Masquerade Query > > The Beatles' UK catalog probably best illustrates all of this: separate > albums, singles and a clutch of EPs (consisting usually of tracks > extracted from a then-current LP). > > I'm sure that was more than you wanted to know, Jim... but there ya go. Thanks Kevin! I can remember that era but do not recall those EP 2-per-side cuts. We used to get 45 singles and albums, and stack 'em up (especially the singles) back in those days. There was a fat, black plastic "widener" we would attach for the 45's, since they had a much larger hole than the 33 RPM LP's. But cutting two songs per side on a 45 is a practice I don't recall seeing. They were probably on the market, but I never noticed them. I was just a little squirt at the time, and never bought anything but popsicles... Jim Clary jclary@fastlane.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Segura To: Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 12:24 PM Subject: Re: The Brit Responds: Masquerade Query > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 15:09:14 -0600 From: "tom, kelly & jordan" Subject: Roach Paul said; blahblahblahto you too. This Chicken~fit outfit is a real bomb guys............another words IT SUCKS! Tom asks, Paul, do you know Roach? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 15:23:37 -0600 From: "Jim Clary" Subject: Re: Roach Yeah, I was wondering what had happened to that guy... I remember him from my tenure on this ML back in 1997... Looks as if my question has been answered... Jim Clary jclary@fastlane.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: tom, kelly & jordan To: Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 3:09 PM Subject: Roach > > > Paul said; > blahblahblahto you too. This Chicken~fit outfit is a real bomb > guys............another words IT SUCKS! > > Tom asks, > Paul, do you know Roach? > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:18:37 -0500 From: "Joe Palcher" Subject: Re: Roach Tom asks, Paul, do you know Roach? Joe Comments: Ouch. Well, I wasn't there with the Roach fiasco exactly, but I do remember the talk about him about a year and a half ago. raburabu joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:40:38 -0600 From: "Jim Clary" Subject: Re: Roach Year and a half eh? Hmm... Jim > > Tom asks, > Paul, do you know Roach? > > Joe Comments: > Ouch. > > Well, I wasn't there with the Roach fiasco exactly, but I do remember > the talk about him about a year and a half ago. > > raburabu > joe > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 17:56:56 -0600 From: Beverly Martin Subject: Re: Roach It was at least that long ago... sadly, Roach went from one of our trusted Basia historians and fans to a person who was not well liked for his poorly handled sales of his Basia memorabilia. Twas a dark time on basia@smoe.org. I think he last emailed one of his buyers about 4-6 months ago and finally settled all accounts to my knowledge. - -- Beverly Martin Jim Clary wrote: > Year and a half eh? Hmm... > Jim > > > > > Tom asks, > > Paul, do you know Roach? > > > > Joe Comments: > > Ouch. > > > > Well, I wasn't there with the Roach fiasco exactly, but I do remember > > the talk about him about a year and a half ago. > > > > raburabu > > joe > > > > > > ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V4 #221 ***************************