From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V4 #207 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Wednesday, October 13 1999 Volume 04 : Number 207 Today's Subjects: ----------------- I Don't Know What You Want But I Like It (So Nice) ["Ray Navarra" ] Re: I Don't Know What You Want But I Like It (So Nice) [Leslie Brown ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 11:43:23 +0200 From: "Ray Navarra" Subject: I Don't Know What You Want But I Like It (So Nice) Hey all! Leslie wrote: >> Which last album was it? Tell me more! I'm too young >> apparently to know >> about this debate... ;) >What it was, was widespread speculation on this ML >that Basia was going to retire. They were saying that >this next album would be her last. Remember, mere >speculation. This next that we're waiting for for, like, ages? >> - Nellee Hooper (now, this is a nice idea) >Very, very interesting..... Imagine Basia singing Unfinished Sympathy... >Here's a question: Basia has at least done some >outside tracks. What has Danny been doing? I'm >suprised he hasn't been guesting on someone's album. Raising a kid... (guessing) >> I'd like to state that in my ears Copernicus is a >> brilliant disco stomper... >It would be very similar to "So Nice" IMHO. After I finally heard So Nice (thanks to everyone who made it possible!!) I agree. It's not a very disco track, but it has a definite Copernicus feeling to it and I like it! >> Am I wrong or isn't there a photo of Kevin in the >> booklet? (at least, the >> cassette booklet) >He's the guy in the white suit. Gotta check again... >> Hmm, I think that it would be in the news here if >> Basia gave birth... >I'm just speculating- you said she looked like she >might be in that awards show in Poland. And she's been >trying. SO I'm just guessing. We have no informants >anymore. Well yes, right. Hmm... I think I gotta write to Marek Niedzwiecki - he's Radio 3 DJ who knows her personally, maybe he knows more than we do... :) >And - >> the inspiration thingie - we can always write a song >> for her! Like, "I miss >> my mum and dad". :) >Awww! That post was scary! Achooally I think that IMMMAD is not that bad a song, after all. :) I like the "footsteps" line. :) (said cheeky Ray, who of course wrote the song himself and it took him 2 minutes approx.) >Do you think it's a good idea to >> try to send a letter to >> Basia to Sony Music Poland? >No. Why? Hey, I just remembered I know someone who knows somebody in Sony PL! :) >Maybe a survey would be a good idea - on >> the Suzanne Vega list it >> generated heavy (and I mean heavy) traffic for at >> least three weeks. I'd >> always come and find that I have 60 mails, off which >> 30 were the surveys. :) >Bring it on! I'll try... :) Just promise that everyone will respond! =) >> About the only other artist who records as >> infrequently as Basia is Bryan Ferry. His last >> studio album was 1994's "Mamouna". >Don't forget Kate Bush. Or Peter Gabriel, for that >matter. Or Queen. (was it bad taste...?) Actually I heard that they have about 30 unreleased songs recorded before Freddie's death... but I also heard that all new material was already released in form of Made In Heaven. Hmm... I'd also like a new Suzanne Vega album. But she's constantly touring, so that's not very possible... Ahh - and, and, and, anyone remembers NewOrder? Or Human League? *sigh* Talk about the long wait... Jeff wrote: >Well, in short, no one uses "drum machines" anymore. >That is to say - a pattern-driven, quantized "box". These pretty much went >out of style when the Linn was still around. I think that most of dance music is based on those...? >There are many tools available with the sequencing software for the removal >of "bad" timings, nuances and plain old mistakes. These tools are often used >to "perfect" a track to such a degree that all of the "human-ness" of the >track gets squeezed out. I always had this feeling with The Sweetest Illusion; some of the tracks sound cold because of it. Funnily enough, I never get this feeling with proper house music, maybe because house's made to sound like this, and Basia's tunes definitely aren't. (-) Ray - -=[::: come.to\raynavarra ::: www.mp3.com\raynavarra :::::::::::]=- Number one this week: Pet Shop Boys "New York City Boy" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 18:59:27 +0900 From: "Brian Cundieff" Subject: Re: digital drummer From: Jeff Abrams Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 2:09 PM Subject: Re: digital drummer >I won't get too deep into the philosophy of using electronics in music (the >term "drum machine" is being a bit abused here, BTW). >However, I think it is important to note that ALL of the drumming (trap) on >"Time and Tide" and "London Warsaw New York" was done By Danny White with >drum modules. Oops! Guess TSI spoiled me. Still, I find the live versions of the songs from those albums with real drummers to be much more enjoyable. And again, like computer animation, it is possible to use electronics well in music, as in Time and Tide and London Warsaw New York. - -Brian* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:20:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Brown Subject: Re: I Don't Know What You Want But I Like It (So Nice) > This next that we're waiting for for, like, ages? Yup. > Raising a kid... (guessing) Yeah, but Basia has been raising a kid all along... It would be cool to hear Danny out of context, IMHO. > Well yes, right. Hmm... I think I gotta write to > Marek Niedzwiecki - he's > Radio 3 DJ who knows her personally, maybe he knows > more than we do... :) We know so little, that would be a little something. ;) > >Bring it on! > I'll try... :) Just promise that everyone will > respond! =) It's worth a try. :) > These tools are often used > >to "perfect" a track to such a degree that all of > the "human-ness" of the > >track gets squeezed out. > I always had this feeling with The Sweetest > Illusion; some of the tracks > sound cold because of it. Funnily enough, I never > get this feeling with > proper house music, maybe because house's made to > sound like this, and > Basia's tunes definitely aren't. But- TSI was using live drummers. Do you drum people think it was edited? - --Leslie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:27:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Brown Subject: Re: digital drummer > There are many tools available with the sequencing > software for the removal > of "bad" timings, nuances and plain old mistakes. > These tools are often used > to "perfect" a track to such a degree that all of > the "human-ness" of the > track gets squeezed out. Wow, thanks. That was very informative. (Anyone in digital imaging see any parallels? I do. ^_^) - --Leslie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V4 #207 ***************************