From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V4 #206 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Tuesday, October 12 1999 Volume 04 : Number 206 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Basia in the studio... EXCLUSIVE insight! [Ray Navarra ] Re: No new cd this year [Leslie Brown ] Re: No new cd this year [Leslie Brown ] Re: digital drummer [Leslie Brown ] Re: digital drummer ["Jeff Abrams" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:00:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Ray Navarra Subject: Basia in the studio... EXCLUSIVE insight! From the recording studio, working on the new album... BASIA: I love this new track you just played, Danny. What was this called? DANNY: "I miss my mum and dad", you wrote it. BASIA: No, I mean the music. DANNY: Oh yeah. That's called heavy metal. BASIA: I like harmonising with all these things. DANNY: (helpfully) They're called guitars. Distorted ones. BASIA: Oh! I thought guitars sounded a little different. DANNY: You mean the acoustic ones? BASIA: If you say so. What's this other thing? DANNY: That's your new look. You'll be wearing leather jackets all the time. BASIA: But they have nails in them. DANNY: (not paying attention) And you'll have to learn to ride on a motorbike. BASIA: Oh no! Danny! How can you even joke like that! No way am I going to ride a motorbike! DANNY: (shrugs) Well, in this case we're going back to hardcore techno look. :) Plus, there's a song they did together... a rather uninspired attempt... I MISS MY MUM AND DAD I am a Polish girl With eyes full of promises And I am here in foreign land Listening to others' footsteps I wander through the misty land... And I miss my mum and dad (gospel choir: MY MUM) I miss my mum and dad (MY DAD) I opened up my heart And I found someone strong He kisses me and loves me But still inside I know That I always will regret... And I miss my mum and dad (MY MUM) I miss my mum and dad (MY DAD) Copernicus, Chopin and Marie Curie Would all dance with me if we were here together We're all from the place where the birds are born To sing and fly into the sky, but there is never Turning back... I miss my mum and dad (MY MUM) I miss my mum and dad (MY DAD) (-) Ray [::: come.to/raynavarra ::: www.mp3.com/raynavarra :::::::::::::::::::::] Number one this week: Pet Shop Boys "New York City Boy" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:09:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Brown Subject: Re: A very stylish moi > Which last album was it? Tell me more! I'm too young > apparently to know > about this debate... ;) What it was, was widespread speculation on this ML that Basia was going to retire. They were saying that this next album would be her last. Remember, mere speculation. > - Nellee Hooper (now, this is a nice idea) Very, very interesting..... > - Rollo Armstrong (the Faithless guy) (no, that > would be too much heaven) > - this White guy ;) Here's a question: Basia has at least done some outside tracks. What has Danny been doing? I'm suprised he hasn't been guesting on someone's album. > I'd like to state that in my ears Copernicus is a > brilliant disco stomper... It would be very similar to "So Nice" IMHO. > After all this time, finally good news! Yay! > (pretending to be Leslie) Ha ha... ;) > >Kevin rules! > Am I wrong or isn't there a photo of Kevin in the > booklet? (at least, the > cassette booklet) He's the guy in the white suit. > Hmm, I think that it would be in the news here if > Basia gave birth... I'm just speculating- you said she looked like she might be in that awards show in Poland. And she's been trying. SO I'm just guessing. We have no informants anymore. And - > the inspiration thingie - we can always write a song > for her! Like, "I miss > my mum and dad". :) Awww! That post was scary! Do you think it's a good idea to > try to send a letter to > Basia to Sony Music Poland? No. > Is there only 90 people on the list?! So there's not > as many Basia fans as I > thought... There's about 120 or so.. I wasn't including people we actually hear from. Maybe a survey would be a good idea - on > the Suzanne Vega list it > generated heavy (and I mean heavy) traffic for at > least three weeks. I'd > always come and find that I have 60 mails, off which > 30 were the surveys. :) Bring it on! - --Leslie (I will finish my letter, Ray, really I will!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Brown Subject: Re: No new cd this year > asked him about Basia's > new CD and he told me there will be no new CD this > year. *Godzilla-like* AAARRRRGHHH!!! > She > mentions on the Polish Samba cd > that she is not very disciplined and Danny must > practice at least three hours > daily. Well, we can't say that she did not warn us. Well, that was 5 years ago. Remember in the 'Ray interviews' ;) when she said that she put in a lot of hours at home recording. I think they both are quite perfectionist. Also, remember that Danny does have a little kid now. - --Leslie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:14:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Brown Subject: Re: No new cd this year > About the only other artist who records as > infrequently as Basia is Bryan Ferry. His last > studio album was 1994's "Mamouna". Don't forget Kate Bush. Or Peter Gabriel, for that matter. - --Leslie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:15:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Brown Subject: Re: digital drummer > I won't get too deep into the philosophy of using > electronics in music (the > term "drum machine" is being a bit abused here, > BTW). Oh, then explain..? (Like we have anything else to talk about..?) > However, I think it is important to note that ALL of > the drumming (trap) on > "Time and Tide" and "London Warsaw New York" was > done By Danny White with > drum modules. Yeah, like I said! - --Leslie (Owww, my head!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:21:13 -0400 From: "Jeff Abrams" Subject: Re: digital drummer Well, in short, no one uses "drum machines" anymore. That is to say - a pattern-driven, quantized "box". These pretty much went out of style when the Linn was still around. There have been pretty good drum machines made since then, but most are used now only as modules. This is because of the way tunes are assembled now-a-days. A guy like Danny (or anyone in the biz for that matter) will have a set of "modules" at his disposal, each with a sound set that the particular module is best at reproducing. Some will be good for pianos, some brass. There will be some that make good drum noises; even some that only make drum sounds. The point is, ALL of these modules are under the control of the user/composer via his main compositional tool - his PC (or Mac; really irrelevant today). Each part of the track will still have to be played as a separate instrument. He will have to play the bass part, the keyboards, the brass, the drums, and so on. Any "human feel" imparted on the track will remain if the composer/performer so desires. There will be variances in time and velocity. (The old drum modules didn't have this ability - as you entered a drum "pattern" it would be funneled directly into a pre-set rhythmic subdivision. You would also be pretty much stuck using the same 2 or 4 bar loop over and over again.) The "problem" arises when the composer/performer begins to edit and "censor" what he has played. There are many tools available with the sequencing software for the removal of "bad" timings, nuances and plain old mistakes. These tools are often used to "perfect" a track to such a degree that all of the "human-ness" of the track gets squeezed out. A really crafty guy, like Danny White (or Peter Wolf, Bobby Summerfield, Rhett Lawrence, Walter Afanasieff to mention a few) will not only avoid removing all of the humanity from his tracks but will actually add a lot of nuance after the fact with the very same tools. A lot is actually pretty well understood about what constitutes a "human" performance and one can go to great lengths to produce the "perfect" performance both technically and humanly (just read up on the strains and hyper-extensions of Donald Fagan!). - -- Jeff Abrams doctorpc@erols.com 1993 Brilliant Black GS Why did the bass player get mad at the timpanist? He turned a peg and refuses to tell him which one. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Leslie Brown To: Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 12:15 PM Subject: Re: digital drummer > > > > > I won't get too deep into the philosophy of using > > electronics in music (the > > term "drum machine" is being a bit abused here, > > BTW). > > Oh, then explain..? (Like we have anything else to > talk about..?) > ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V4 #206 ***************************