From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V4 #161 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Saturday, August 7 1999 Volume 04 : Number 161 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Watch out, a newbie ["Paul Fish" ] Basia Basics [Denis Naranjo ] Re: Watch out, a newbie [Denis Naranjo ] Re: Watch out, a newbie [Denis Naranjo ] Re: Just wondering? [Samurai27@aol.com] Re: Just wondering? ["Ashoke S. Talukdar" ] Re: 100 greatest women of rock [Leslie Brown ] Re: Exene cervenka (sp.) [Leslie Brown ] Re: Just wondering? [Leslie Brown ] Re: Watch out, a newbie [Leslie Brown ] Animal Farm ["Meg Evans" ] Re: Just wondering? [Mike Nice ] ADMIN: smoe.org downtime this weekend [Jeff Wasilko ] Welcome to the "OLD DOMINION" [JAZCAT99@aol.com] Re: Just wondering? ["Dennis J. Majewicz" ] Re: Just wondering? [SSShu@webtv.net (Stephanie Shumaker)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 01:12:49 -0400 From: "Paul Fish" Subject: Re: Watch out, a newbie There are not many artists who sound like Basia. As people here have mentioned before, she can not easily be classified. She's a mixture of jazz/pop/samba/dance. I think that the reason she gets so little airplay is because of this. Radio Station Music Directors are basicly money driven cowards. But to answer your question about similar artists I offer these two - - ANGGUN and GABRIELA ANDERS. Anggun is Indoneisan by way of France. She has one of he most amazing sets of pipes I've ever heard. She does a killer rendition of David Bowie's "Life On Mars". Anders (I believe) is Spanish and covers Asturd Gilberto's classic "Girl Form Ipanema" - a song that Basia would do justice too. - --- "Stay sane inside insanity." - Columbia, "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" Paul S. Fish - ---------- >From: "Ruth C. Johnson" >To: >Subject: Re: Watch out, a newbie >Date: Fri, Aug 6, 1999, 12:41 AM > > >I don't know any artist who is even close to Basia in style or material. >However since you asked , I will suggest the British singer Julia Fordham >who also has a unique style of her own. Fordham recorded a song several >years ago called "Genius" which is on her "Porcelain" album . "Genius" is >the closest thing I"ve heard which can compare to a Basia song. Julia >Fordham has a fantastic voice and is a good song writer. But her songs are >not as uplifting and bouncy as Basia's. >Sincerely, robgrad99 ,aka Ruth Johnson,I'm not really Ruth Johnson, she's >my mother in law.-----Original Message----- >From: SHOEMAN99@aol.com >To: basia@smoe.org >Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 4:45 PM >Subject: Re: Watch out, a newbie > > >> >>Hi everyone, >> >>I just signed up for this mailing list because I, like you, love Basia... >> >>However, I have a question... Does anyone out there know of any other >>artists and or groups that have music similar to that of Basia? I am >>curious... Can anyone help? >> >>Regards, >> Maverick >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 02:24:46 -0700 From: Denis Naranjo Subject: Basia Basics OK Joe, what does contemporary mean? a classical jazz singer? Isn't any music artist of the present day contemporary? Realize this, Basia doesn't improvise on the melody, harmony or rhythm, as a jazz singer would routinely. However, Basia doesn't pretend to sing straight-ahead nor does her style dictate that she necessarily has to. Her influences (jazz, Brazil, salsa, Motown, Euro pop) provide an expansive background from which to draw upon. And by the way, Michael Franks, Maysa aren't jazz singers either. Though Mr. Jarreau infrequently has waded into jazz vocal arrangements while in good company. Devotees of vocal jazz would not find her music presentation improvised at all, nor enough to be called jazz anything. But, her biography uses the term contemporary pop-jazz singer because her Epic label marketing braintrust realizes how to promote a multi-faceted artist who consistently defies a single categorization. Therefore, Basia's marketability as a recording artist has propelled her into crossover territory since her pop music appeal derives from airplay via multiple radio formats--Smooth Jazz, NAC, Top 40, CHR, Adult Contemporary, Lite FM, Brazilian/World, et. al. Perhaps you should check out SoundScan reports on her retail history. It shows she's a proven artistic commodity, a rock solid commercial vocal artist who sells records. If you're the VP of Marketing at Epic/SONY Music Entertainment, you care about keeping her signed to your label, keeping product in the store (shelved in the jazz section no less), and fueling any possible longevity through cross-promotional opportunities. Select Basia singles also receive a genuine blessing--extended house remixes for dance clubs and groove oriented FM formats. Also, remember Basia broke onto the charts with "Time and Tide" through FM AC radio and has never had to look back. Epic's push with "Time and Tide" singles, a grand plan at that, paid off handsomely. Any other kind of airplay became icing on the cake. And that's why you hear Basia in retail stores and shopping malls, not because she's a contemporary anything. As everyone on this list will attest, she's unquestionably one of the rarest talents on the planet. All this isn't a technicality so long as you accept her unique talent, musical background, and what it takes to break an artist and keep her stock rising for the long haul. Personally, I'm glad Basia doesn't record more as she obviously values her independence, her career freedom after 12 years of solo success, and so far is keeping overexposure out of her vocabulary. Considering the wave of female singer/songwriters in music today, plus the influx of rap/hip-hop with rock and various other techno industrial sounds, Basia's next release should be quite illuminating as to how she views the music scene today. ...what say you? Denis Joe Palcher wrote: > > Again Leslie wrote: > "Everybody, quit being so cranky, for gosh sakes. I > personally am on the list to have fun, not to bitch > about what isn't jazz or to insult other list members. > I'm sure others feel the same. > > --Leslie" > > I agree with Leslie again. We shouldn't get caught up in > technacalities. Okay, so she isn't a "jazz singer." Maybe a > "contemporary jazz" singer, but she has so many South American > influences in her music she couldn't be a classical jazz singer. So > what. We love her music, that's all that matters. And I wouldn't > call her a crossover Pop artist. Such an artist would be very > successful in the Pop music scene (like Shania Twain or someone), and > granted, Basia isn't (not that it matters to us, she's our diva). > > raburabu (as Leslie and I skip down our merry way, hand in hand) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 02:28:57 -0700 From: Denis Naranjo Subject: Re: Watch out, a newbie Now this is more like it. How mindful of you to bring up an artist whose vocal nuances and timbre mirrors the provocative profile of Basia as a singer/songwriter. Indeed, Fordham's "Porcelain" CD remains a classic. Well done Ruth. Denis "Ruth C. Johnson" wrote: > > I don't know any artist who is even close to Basia in style or material. > However since you asked , I will suggest the British singer Julia Fordham > who also has a unique style of her own. Fordham recorded a song several > years ago called "Genius" which is on her "Porcelain" album . "Genius" is > the closest thing I"ve heard which can compare to a Basia song. Julia > Fordham has a fantastic voice and is a good song writer. But her songs are > not as uplifting and bouncy as Basia's. > Sincerely, robgrad99 ,aka Ruth Johnson,I'm not really Ruth Johnson, she's > my mother in law.-----Original Message----- > From: SHOEMAN99@aol.com > To: basia@smoe.org > Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 4:45 PM > Subject: Re: Watch out, a newbie > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >I just signed up for this mailing list because I, like you, love Basia... > > > >However, I have a question... Does anyone out there know of any other > >artists and or groups that have music similar to that of Basia? I am > >curious... Can anyone help? > > > >Regards, > > Maverick > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 02:31:32 -0700 From: Denis Naranjo Subject: Re: Watch out, a newbie Sorry Rob, I just realized your signoff noted an ID correction. Rather, nice job Rob on the Fordham post. Denis "Ruth C. Johnson" wrote: > > I don't know any artist who is even close to Basia in style or material. > However since you asked , I will suggest the British singer Julia Fordham > who also has a unique style of her own. Fordham recorded a song several > years ago called "Genius" which is on her "Porcelain" album . "Genius" is > the closest thing I"ve heard which can compare to a Basia song. Julia > Fordham has a fantastic voice and is a good song writer. But her songs are > not as uplifting and bouncy as Basia's. > Sincerely, robgrad99 ,aka Ruth Johnson,I'm not really Ruth Johnson, she's > my mother in law.-----Original Message----- > From: SHOEMAN99@aol.com > To: basia@smoe.org > Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 4:45 PM > Subject: Re: Watch out, a newbie > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >I just signed up for this mailing list because I, like you, love Basia... > > > >However, I have a question... Does anyone out there know of any other > >artists and or groups that have music similar to that of Basia? I am > >curious... Can anyone help? > > > >Regards, > > Maverick > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:13:20 EDT From: Samurai27@aol.com Subject: Re: Just wondering? Hi all. I haven't been too vocal the last few months but I thought I would give my two sense regarding the frequency that I listen to Basia. Actuall since I drive 73 miles to work each day (thats 146 total) music is a major part of my life. I also have a 6 cd player and Basia is always in there. I listen to her every day. Lately it has been Polish Sambas becuase I enjoy the interviews and "Hi this is Basia we'll have more smooth jazz in just a minute". A personal greeting from her daily sets my day off just right. Isn't amazing that we never get too much of her? I find that truly amazing. I like the rest of you can't wait for her new cd, whenever that will be. I bought the new Spiro Gyra cd and enjoyed listening to the Basia cut. It wasn't her music but the words seemed to be like hers even though I checked the liner notes and it was not. Well thats enough for now. Can't wait to go to her next concert. Regards Denis with one "N" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:31:43 -0400 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: Re: Just wondering? I have been listening to Clear Horizon almost everyday in the car for about 2 months now. No I really CANNOT get tired of her voice. It's pretty amazing actually. Ashoke. _______________________________________________________________________ Ashoke S. Talukdar Senior Systems Programmer The MetroHealth System Information Services - Q5 2500 MetroHealth Drive Cleveland, Ohio 44109-1998 Phone: (216) 778-4750 Fax: (216) 778-3232 E-mail: atalukdar@metrohealth.org Home Page: www.metrohealth.org - -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Yap To: basia@smoe.org Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 07:45 PM Subject: Just wondering? > >I was just wondering how often do you listen to your Basia CDs/tapes now? Do >you listen to a CD at least once a day? A week? Or a month? > >How often do you listen to Basia esp. now she has had any new releases. > >It would be interesting to hear how much Basia we are actually hearing now. >Timothy > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:37:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Brown Subject: Re: 100 greatest women of rock > raburabu (as Leslie and I skip down our merry way, > hand in hand) La, la, la! - --Leslie, esteemed or otherwise : ) _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:38:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Brown Subject: Re: Exene cervenka (sp.) Basia > and VH1 never hit it off, Back in the recesses of my mind I remember as a wee lass Basia being all over the thing, even hosting the countdown. Those were the days (or if you cue up Maureen Stapleton, "daaaaaaays!") Anyway... > remeber when Jon Secada bumped her off for artist of > the month a year or > two ago. I think that is when somebody decided he > was the devil. But he is! Isn't he? ^_^ Whatever happened to that guy? Wait, don't tell me. He can stay gone. - --Leslie, who had her fill of him in '93 _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Brown Subject: Re: Just wondering? > I listen to Basia at least once a day on my way to > work, or at work. One of the truly great joys in life is driving down Woodward at 10 miles an hour (due to construction, nod all ye Detroiters!) screeching along to Basia on Broadway. Bliss! The old guys in Beemers really dig it, too. - --Leslie *of course I'm being facitious, or however you spell it, but I do sing along to BOB on the way to work. Not too much outside, though. I need new songs. :( It's not that I don't love to hear her voice, I'm just weary of the same songs. Makes me want to bust out 'Brave New Hope.' _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:59:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Leslie Brown Subject: Re: Watch out, a newbie > She's a mixture of > jazz/pop/samba/dance. I think that the reason she > gets so little airplay is > because of this. Radio Station Music Directors are > basicly money driven > cowards. Not only that (non-pidgeonhole-able style) but the fact that contemporary jazz stations are now sh*t. Sorry, but I remember a time when they were a refuge for all the weird music nobody knew what to do with (of course, stuff I loved, being weird and all). Now, I can't deal with the format, unless I want to sleep for, say, 14 hours. That bad. Now there is starting to be a big backlash against it- and in due time, I tell ye. The advertisers and the programmers saw dollar signs in the demographic listening, so they "evolved" the format into this crap thinking the yuppies would like it. One thing they forgot, though: six-figure folks have taste. Now their share is dropping, and the Arbitrons are beginning to suck. Whoops. Big warnig sign (to me, in retrospect) was when the stations barely acknowledged TSI in 1994. Here was one of the main folks the format built itself upon, and then when she dared to think and actually make some decent music, as opposed to LWNY Part 4 or whatever, was dropped like a hot potato. Grrr. But that's another diatribe. Personally, when I can turn on the radio and not hear 50 Jeff Lorber and Paul Brown productions in a row, indistinguishable (with all due respect to Peter White, but come on!), then I'll feel a little better. My opinion: the next album will blow up if for no reason other than the people are hungry for something with heart, with spirit, with actual changes and vocals that serve a purpose other than repeating song titles ad nauseam! - --Leslie "don't call it a comeback/I've been here for years!" _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 09:25:55 CDT From: "Meg Evans" Subject: Animal Farm A good happy Friday to you all, Faf speculates and pleads: "I feel everybody nervous !!! Please Basia, if you hear me (or read me), hurry for the album to calm us !!!" Yes, indeed, Basia, we are edgy! We've had enough of heat indexes in the 100s! We want to go on vacation! And we want a new Basia album! Please don't make us wait 15 years like the Blondie fans. Faf also askes: "P. S.: Please Meg, what means "pigeonholed" ???" "a neat category which usually fails to reflect actual complexities; to assign to a category; CLASSIFY." That is, if we label Basia's music as strictly one style or another, it unfairly limits what the rest of the world will think of her without listening first. If we say Basia is a "jazz singer," besides stirring up a heckuva ruckus on the list, one might tend to lump her with such singers as Al Jarreau or Natalie Cole or (insert your choice of jazz singer's names here). Basia is decidedly NOT like Al Jarreau or Natalie Cole or Billie Holiday. If we say "crossover/pop," then again those who are sadly unenlightened will get a terribly wrong impression of Basia's music. But to say that she is so amazingly unique as to be absolutely unclassifiable -- now THAT'S a category I can live with! Faf: What does "Faf" stand for? >And of course I nominated Meg as the fan club president. I DON'T nominate >myself. I would be MUCH happier performing the task of the chief whip! >:-D Ashoke, I nominate you Chief Whip. Let's go shopping for your supplies! ;-) >Hail to the dyslexic atheist who doubts if there is a dog! :-D Arf! Meg _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Aug 99 18:07:01 -0400 From: Mike Nice Subject: Re: Just wondering? In <19990806134201.25776.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com>, on 08/06/99 at 06:42 AM, Leslie Brown said: > screeching along to Basia on >Broadway. Bliss! >The old guys in Beemers really dig it, too. I almost died laughing at this mental picture!!-) - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------- Mike Nice - ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:58:39 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: ADMIN: smoe.org downtime this weekend Hello: Smoe.org will be moving from my house near Boston to northern Virginia (as part of my relocation to Virginia) and will be offline from Saturday morning until Sunday evening. During the downtime, all mail will be held at an upstream host, so nothing sent to smoe.org will be lost. However, delivery will be delayed until Sunday, after the machine is reconnected. - -jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:07:51 EDT From: JAZCAT99@aol.com Subject: Welcome to the "OLD DOMINION" Fellow Basia-head! I live in Richmond. 90 min from DC. You will love the state. DC has some cool jazz stations. Unlike Richmond. We get about 2 hours a night on NPR. Its all country/honky tonk or top 40. Good luck...jaz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 20:37:52 -0400 From: "Dennis J. Majewicz" Subject: Re: Just wondering? I try to limit my listening to once a month or less. I have to stretch out what's left of a good thing. Of course all bets are off if I'm in a mall or grocery shopping :) Those would be bonus Basia moments and can't be counted, of course... When the new CD comes out, it will be back to daily listening. By the way, I'm avoiding those other threads about Rock Women and fanzines. They seem ready to expolode... However, I did want to report that I ran across Spyro Gyra's "Got The Magic" tracks on MP3 the other day, and listened intently to Basia's "Springtime Laughter" track. I don't quite know what to make of it. It's a difficult melody and she didn't seem to be too comfortable with it - almost like the song shouldn't have lyrics at all. I definitely prefer to listen to songs where she writes the lyrics. She's so much more at ease with her own work. But it's growing on me. I put it to minidisc so I can listen to the album while to and from work. I'm enjoying the rest of the album, too. It's kind of funky... Dennis (still sporting those two n's) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:20:06 -0700 (MST) From: SSShu@webtv.net (Stephanie Shumaker) Subject: Re: Just wondering? - --WebTV-Mail-1211-7563 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit i have two basia cd's & listen to them on my computer at work a few times a week, would listen to them at home but no cd player as of yet. stephanie - --WebTV-Mail-1211-7563 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.97) by postoffice-281.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id QAA10534; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smoe.org (h-080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA13444; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id TAA04292; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:41:31 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id TAA04271 for basia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:41:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.2.30]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id TAA04267 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garnet3.acns.fsu.edu (garnet3-fi.acns.fsu.edu [192.168.197.3]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA96260 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:41:23 -0400 Received: from compaq (dial1025.acns.fsu.edu [146.201.36.161]) by garnet3.acns.fsu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA42096 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:41:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:41:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199908052341.TAA42096@garnet3.acns.fsu.edu> X-Sender: thy4568@garnet.acns.fsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: basia@smoe.org From: Timothy Yap Subject: Just wondering? Sender: owner-basia@smoe.org Reply-To: basia@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk I was just wondering how often do you listen to your Basia CDs/tapes now? Do you listen to a CD at least once a day? A week? Or a month? How often do you listen to Basia esp. now she has had any new releases. It would be interesting to hear how much Basia we are actually hearing now. Timothy - --WebTV-Mail-1211-7563-- ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V4 #161 ***************************