From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V4 #58 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Thursday, March 4 1999 Volume 04 : Number 058 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: great site [gallery ] GREAT GALLERY!!! [gallery ] If not lovers we still remain best threads (fwd) [Ray Navarra ] Re: basia-digest V4 #57 [lmc@dmr.com] Re: If not lovers we still remain best threads (fwd) ["Leslie Brown" Subject: Re: great site thanks howie for your comments. well basically the sevices we provide help artist to sell their art and become known. 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It's easy to upload your images, and update your CV, as well as to sell your art online. No Limits No commissions! Only $9.95 per month (or less!) We will help you with escrow and credit card sales! http://www.jamesbaird.com gallery@jamesbaird.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please email majordomo@jamesbaird.com and place "unsubcribe art" in the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:17:44 +0100 (CET) From: Ray Navarra Subject: If not lovers we still remain best threads (fwd) Hey all! This is gonna be a huge reply for 4 digests... Jacki defended my bananas: > > LOL!!!! I hereby decare "tough bananas" my phrase of the day! > > Haven't any of you guys ever heard that expression before? Or am I the only > weird one (besides Basia) that's used it? I guess I got it from my mom, but we > said it all the time as kids, and I occasionally say it now as an adult. I > can't believe no one's heard that before! :-) Are you American, Jacki? I eventually came to the conclusion that "tough bananas" might be a British phrase (conclusion was based on its use by Neil Tennant, to be honest.) Thanks for banana defence! :) BTW: Leslie, new Pet Shop Boys single is scheduled for release at April 5th, album at April 26th! YIKES! Now let's hope it's true. Leslie, btw, said: > "A cat that is half full," eh? Reminds me of this weird Pokemon toy Matt > got from a friend of ours for Christmas. It's this weird cat that, even > though it speaks English on the show, shouts out in obnoxious sounding > cat-accented Japanese when you press the button. He sounds like he's > half- over-full. It's my subject-habit recently. I always take the line from Basia song and change it a little. And then I have fun, because 75% posts on the list have "my" subjects. :D > >BOB is Basia on Broadway, right? > No, BOB is the guy with the gut down the street from me that sits on his > porch ad belches at will (Everytime I hear that acronym that's what I > think of!) BOB is the guy that haunted Laura Palmer, too. > Of course it's Basia on Broadway. Gee, us and our acronyms, I > tell ya! Sorry! Arr, arr, arr! You're a bad girl! > Is there a website where I could find a > >photo of Kevin where he would actually look the way he *does*? :) > I'll mail you a pic off the TSI program if you really want it. Oh, *yes*! :) > >actor. The song is the duet with Mietek Szczesniak, one of Polish soul > >singers (one of 1000 Polish soul singers, that is) and it's awesome. No > >Mariah Carey this time! > Sounds cool! I put the MP3 of the song on: prioris.im.pw.edu.pl/~ray/edyta.mp3 - if it's not there, it means I forgot to put it there (yikes!) > >-=[ Number one this week: George Michael/Mary J Blige "As" > I think I need to hear this... It's released in the UK at March 1st, in the US it's not released, because Mary J's record company refused to let Sony release the song. That's the exact reason why it's not on the American edition of GM's "Ladies and Gentlemen". (Now, let's all shout... 1.. 2.. 3.. "Fuck the homophobes!") Thelma says: > I'm old. I've heard it. We also said "Tough JuJu Beans" althought I don't > know what a ju ju bean is. Is 43 old? Not in my world. I mean, I'm 21, but I always feel like a 6-years-old. (And I behave like one, especially when I can't get something. ;) So when I'm 43 actually, I'll be 28 mentally and that's definitely NOT old. If you've said you're 94, I'd say "Gosh! You _are_ old!" > Thanks for clearing it up! Basia drunk. What a concept? Isn't that kinda > like a stoned kitty? I mean it's fun to watch but you know god will punish > you for it! I can just picture her, totally tipsy, trying to explain to the > police officer that she is only very drunk on love for Kevin's supposed well > defined legs. And I can see the London bobby going "Yeah right, lady!" :-D (rolling on the floor, hysterically laughing. Hmm. I kicked the computer. I hope it doesn't break. I kicked harder. *boom* that was the monitor) Ashoke, you're BRILLIANT. > And Ray, you are allowed to talk about winter blues. Lord knows if you live > in Cleveland, winter blues are about as commonplace as your morning cup of > coffee. The weather in Poland: first, there was 30 cms of snow. Now for the third day it's 3 Celcius degrees, which means that the snow melts partially just enough for everything to be wet and muddy but not enough to disappear. I've had 10 hours of classes on Monday. But I decided that such little things won't make me depressed. (Now, we'll see in two weeks of such weather...) > Ashoke (who is desperately trying to complete everything that needs to be > completed before he leaves for San Diego). Of course that was last week, but I hope everything went fine! Jim wrote: (on heroes) > I guess we all probably looked up to our parents as our first heroes. They > knew everything, right? As we went to high school and college, our views of > our parents probably lowered considerably. Only when we got older and wiser, > often with children of our own, did we realize one important fact - our > parents basically did the best they could do. I know this feeling. When I was 5 years old, I thought my parents knew everything. Imagine my surprise when I actually realised they didn't! They lost much in my eyes - eyes of a 5 years old - in this moment. My mum sometimes makes me literally mad. She can be really awful, not to use harsher words. But I love her. She loves me, accepts me and she's always there for me. She works hard for the money ((c) Donna Summer) and there's noone else I'd like to have near when the tough times come. She's my hero. > My father told me one time that musicians, just like athletes, have a short > career, too. He loved Frank Sinatra, but couldn't bear watching him in his > later years. To hear my Dad say Frank was pitiful really said a lot. I have > seen the same thing in my favorite band from my college days, Chicago. When > they began, in 1969, they were terrific - talented and sophisticated. They put > out many tremendous albums. By the middle 80's they had been reduced to a > bunch of middle-aged men singing blubbering love songs (written by Diane > Warren :) ) In the 90's they are just an oldies act. I don't ever want to > see them again, but I still look up to them for what they did accomplish. (I just realised my mum washed the dishes I was supposed to wash. *blush*) I wonder what will happen to Pet Shop Boys in ten years. I love their music; they were the "hot new group" in 1986, there was a "how long can they go?" atmosphere around them in 1990; they had their best selling album ever in 1994 ("Very") and they're still around in 1999, even if they didn't release anything last year. The new album is supposedly out in May and I really can't wait. They keep developing - sometimes in the direction I like, sometimes not. They are old in the terms of musical career; Neil's now 44, Chris will turn 40 in October. But they're still my favourite band and I hope that the new album will prove they're still worth it. What happens in 10 years time? They might vanish - although that's rather hard to imagine - or become music producers, write musicals (they're writing one now)... > I have noticed a lot of musical acts peak around their fourth CD. An act takes > a couple CD's to establish themselves, then the next two are their best. They > have learned how to create, record, and perform. I've always heard that: - - the first CD is the one that you obviously need, for a beginning - - the second is the tough one, because if the first is good, everybody expects something even better - - the third is even tougher, because you've put all the good songs you wrote on the first two and you have no more for the third - - and the fourth is your greatest hits! :) > So how does this all relate to our musical hero? Basia's first two CD's were > wonderful. Obviously it caught our attention, and when TSI came out, it showed > she had come of age. I can't say enough about that CD. I suspect that her next > CD will probably be at that level. After that, who knows? But she will always > be one of my heroes, because of the endless pleasure I have received listening > to her music. My favourite Basia's album is LWNY. It has the same atmosphere that PSB's Behaviour has; it's mellow and sweet and "Cruising For Bruising" is Basia's "Being Boring". TSI is very good, but it's too complicated for me, I think. Overproduced maybe. LWNY sounds very simple, compared to TSI. > "Umm... Hello... Uhhh... My name's Brian.... and I'm a Basia-holic. *choke* > In 1991, I bought the original version of Brave New Hope, which had seven > songs (including two virtually identical mixes of "Brave New Hope"). Then > when the nine-song version came out a few months later... I bought that one > too! *sob, sob* I own both volumes of 'The Best Remixes' ..." And so on, and > so on.... Brave New Hope? The single? Has it got *7* b-sides?! Oh Gosh! That's good value for money then! PS. Brian... you wrote how much you hate angels... I have to admit I recorded a song with Ashoke's lyric - I used the poem he mailed to the list some weeks ago. Guess what's it called? ..."Angel" I'm afraid. OK, I'll do the hardcore rap remix of the song, retitling it to "Kill The Bloody Angels", if Ashoke agrees to remake the lyric. ;) Lovelove... (-) Ray - -=[ come.to/raynavarra ]=-=[ The Future Is Yours mp3 available now! ]=- - -=[ Air discography: members.xoom.com/obvious/airdisco.txt ]=- - -=[ Number one this week: George Michael/Mary J Blige "As" ]=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:07:15 +0100 (CET) From: Ray Navarra Subject: If not lovers we still remain best threads Hey all! This is gonna be a huge reply for 4 digests... Jacki defended my bananas: > > LOL!!!! I hereby decare "tough bananas" my phrase of the day! > > Haven't any of you guys ever heard that expression before? Or am I the only > weird one (besides Basia) that's used it? I guess I got it from my mom, but we > said it all the time as kids, and I occasionally say it now as an adult. I > can't believe no one's heard that before! :-) Are you American, Jacki? I eventually came to the conclusion that "tough bananas" might be a British phrase (conclusion was based on its use by Neil Tennant, to be honest.) Thanks for banana defence! :) BTW: Leslie, new Pet Shop Boys single is scheduled for release at April 5th, album at April 26th! YIKES! Now let's hope it's true. Leslie, btw, said: > "A cat that is half full," eh? Reminds me of this weird Pokemon toy Matt > got from a friend of ours for Christmas. It's this weird cat that, even > though it speaks English on the show, shouts out in obnoxious sounding > cat-accented Japanese when you press the button. He sounds like he's > half- over-full. It's my subject-habit recently. I always take the line from Basia song and change it a little. And then I have fun, because 75% posts on the list have "my" subjects. :D > >BOB is Basia on Broadway, right? > No, BOB is the guy with the gut down the street from me that sits on his > porch ad belches at will (Everytime I hear that acronym that's what I > think of!) BOB is the guy that haunted Laura Palmer, too. > Of course it's Basia on Broadway. Gee, us and our acronyms, I > tell ya! Sorry! Arr, arr, arr! You're a bad girl! > Is there a website where I could find a > >photo of Kevin where he would actually look the way he *does*? :) > I'll mail you a pic off the TSI program if you really want it. Oh, *yes*! :) > >actor. The song is the duet with Mietek Szczesniak, one of Polish soul > >singers (one of 1000 Polish soul singers, that is) and it's awesome. No > >Mariah Carey this time! > Sounds cool! I put the MP3 of the song on: prioris.im.pw.edu.pl/~ray/edyta.mp3 - if it's not there, it means I forgot to put it there (yikes!) > >-=[ Number one this week: George Michael/Mary J Blige "As" > I think I need to hear this... It's released in the UK at March 1st, in the US it's not released, because Mary J's record company refused to let Sony release the song. That's the exact reason why it's not on the American edition of GM's "Ladies and Gentlemen". (Now, let's all shout... 1.. 2.. 3.. "Fuck the homophobes!") Thelma says: > I'm old. I've heard it. We also said "Tough JuJu Beans" althought I don't > know what a ju ju bean is. Is 43 old? Not in my world. I mean, I'm 21, but I always feel like a 6-years-old. (And I behave like one, especially when I can't get something. ;) So when I'm 43 actually, I'll be 28 mentally and that's definitely NOT old. If you've said you're 94, I'd say "Gosh! You _are_ old!" > Thanks for clearing it up! Basia drunk. What a concept? Isn't that kinda > like a stoned kitty? I mean it's fun to watch but you know god will punish > you for it! I can just picture her, totally tipsy, trying to explain to the > police officer that she is only very drunk on love for Kevin's supposed well > defined legs. And I can see the London bobby going "Yeah right, lady!" :-D (rolling on the floor, hysterically laughing. Hmm. I kicked the computer. I hope it doesn't break. I kicked harder. *boom* that was the monitor) Ashoke, you're BRILLIANT. > And Ray, you are allowed to talk about winter blues. Lord knows if you live > in Cleveland, winter blues are about as commonplace as your morning cup of > coffee. The weather in Poland: first, there was 30 cms of snow. Now for the third day it's 3 Celcius degrees, which means that the snow melts partially just enough for everything to be wet and muddy but not enough to disappear. I've had 10 hours of classes on Monday. But I decided that such little things won't make me depressed. (Now, we'll see in two weeks of such weather...) > Ashoke (who is desperately trying to complete everything that needs to be > completed before he leaves for San Diego). Of course that was last week, but I hope everything went fine! Jim wrote: (on heroes) > I guess we all probably looked up to our parents as our first heroes. They > knew everything, right? As we went to high school and college, our views of > our parents probably lowered considerably. Only when we got older and wiser, > often with children of our own, did we realize one important fact - our > parents basically did the best they could do. I know this feeling. When I was 5 years old, I thought my parents knew everything. Imagine my surprise when I actually realised they didn't! They lost much in my eyes - eyes of a 5 years old - in this moment. My mum sometimes makes me literally mad. She can be really awful, not to use harsher words. But I love her. She loves me, accepts me and she's always there for me. She works hard for the money ((c) Donna Summer) and there's noone else I'd like to have near when the tough times come. She's my hero. > My father told me one time that musicians, just like athletes, have a short > career, too. He loved Frank Sinatra, but couldn't bear watching him in his > later years. To hear my Dad say Frank was pitiful really said a lot. I have > seen the same thing in my favorite band from my college days, Chicago. When > they began, in 1969, they were terrific - talented and sophisticated. They put > out many tremendous albums. By the middle 80's they had been reduced to a > bunch of middle-aged men singing blubbering love songs (written by Diane > Warren :) ) In the 90's they are just an oldies act. I don't ever want to > see them again, but I still look up to them for what they did accomplish. (I just realised my mum washed the dishes I was supposed to wash. *blush*) I wonder what will happen to Pet Shop Boys in ten years. I love their music; they were the "hot new group" in 1986, there was a "how long can they go?" atmosphere around them in 1990; they had their best selling album ever in 1994 ("Very") and they're still around in 1999, even if they didn't release anything last year. The new album is supposedly out in May and I really can't wait. They keep developing - sometimes in the direction I like, sometimes not. They are old in the terms of musical career; Neil's now 44, Chris will turn 40 in October. But they're still my favourite band and I hope that the new album will prove they're still worth it. What happens in 10 years time? They might vanish - although that's rather hard to imagine - or become music producers, write musicals (they're writing one now)... > I have noticed a lot of musical acts peak around their fourth CD. An act takes > a couple CD's to establish themselves, then the next two are their best. They > have learned how to create, record, and perform. I've always heard that: - - the first CD is the one that you obviously need, for a beginning - - the second is the tough one, because if the first is good, everybody expects something even better - - the third is even tougher, because you've put all the good songs you wrote on the first two and you have no more for the third - - and the fourth is your greatest hits! :) > So how does this all relate to our musical hero? Basia's first two CD's were > wonderful. Obviously it caught our attention, and when TSI came out, it showed > she had come of age. I can't say enough about that CD. I suspect that her next > CD will probably be at that level. After that, who knows? But she will always > be one of my heroes, because of the endless pleasure I have received listening > to her music. My favourite Basia's album is LWNY. It has the same atmosphere that PSB's Behaviour has; it's mellow and sweet and "Cruising For Bruising" is Basia's "Being Boring". TSI is very good, but it's too complicated for me, I think. Overproduced maybe. LWNY sounds very simple, compared to TSI. > "Umm... Hello... Uhhh... My name's Brian.... and I'm a Basia-holic. *choke* > In 1991, I bought the original version of Brave New Hope, which had seven > songs (including two virtually identical mixes of "Brave New Hope"). Then > when the nine-song version came out a few months later... I bought that one > too! *sob, sob* I own both volumes of 'The Best Remixes' ..." And so on, and > so on.... Brave New Hope? The single? Has it got *7* b-sides?! Oh Gosh! That's good value for money then! PS. Brian... you wrote how much you hate angels... I have to admit I recorded a song with Ashoke's lyric - I used the poem he mailed to the list some weeks ago. Guess what's it called? ..."Angel" I'm afraid. OK, I'll do the hardcore rap remix of the song, retitling it to "Kill The Bloody Angels", if Ashoke agrees to remake the lyric. ;) Lovelove... (-) Ray - -=[ come.to/raynavarra ]=-=[ The Future Is Yours mp3 available now! ]=- - -=[ Air discography: members.xoom.com/obvious/airdisco.txt ]=- - -=[ Number one this week: George Michael/Mary J Blige "As" ]=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:50:00 -0600 From: Meg Evans Subject: Kilts Tom brainstorms: >I thought of an idea. If and when Basia's band tours this year after the >new album is out WHEN, Thomas ... the power of positive thinking! >and instead of someone desinging and wearing a "Basia digest t-shirt" a cheap >sort of middle of the road white cotton under garment. All the gentlemen >on this list if willing, and brave, as to stand out in the crowd, as a full >fledged member in good standing on this list should be easily identified by >other list members wearing a > > >KILT. I second that! Being of Scottish descent myself, I fully endorse the wearing of kilts by men young and old. Why should women have all the fun of wearing skirts and showing off their legs? And the food of choice when we all get together at these imminent Basia shows? Ice cream, of course! Meg, who is suffering dearly from a sinus cold ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:15:27 -0500 From: lmc@dmr.com Subject: Re: basia-digest V4 #57 Diane, Thanks so much for info on Peter. A friend of mine is leaving for London soon so I passed info on to him. BTW, I have been wondering for a long time: what does TTFN mean? Slow on the uptake Linda ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:19:46 PST From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: Re: If not lovers we still remain best threads (fwd) >BTW: Leslie, new Pet Shop Boys single is scheduled for release at April 5th, >album at April 26th! YIKES! Now let's hope it's true. Hey, great birthday present! (which is the 6th) Love how this stuff is timed sometimes! BTW, NEW INCOGNITO ALBUM IN MAY!!!!!! *Whew* Yes I am glad. check out http://www.talkinloud.com for the skinny. Read the little interview where the interviewer wonders why it took Bluey *so long* Two years! Boy, that person wouldn't last very long in Basialand! Oh, and Kevin Robinson is *supposed* to be on it again. (He'd better, anyway!) Without the kilt tho'. (LOL) >It's my subject-habit recently. I always take the line from Basia song and >change it a little. It's very cute. Always gives me a little laugh. >> I'll mail you a pic off the TSI program if you really want it. >Oh, *yes*! :) OK, look for it in the next week or so. :) >It's released in the UK at March 1st, in the US it's not released, because >Mary J's record company refused to let Sony release the song. That's the exact >reason why it's not on the American edition of GM's "Ladies and Gentlemen". >(Now, let's all shout... 1.. 2.. 3.. "Fuck the homophobes!") GRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Whatta bunch of crap. Now I'll never hear it. (what label is Mary J on anyway?) >(I just realised my mum washed the dishes I was supposed to wash. *blush*) Naughty boy! >I wonder what will happen to Pet Shop Boys in ten years. I love their music; >they were the "hot new group" in 1986, there was a "how long can they go?" >atmosphere around them in 1990; they had their best selling album ever in 1994 >("Very") and they're still around in 1999, even if they didn't release anything >last year. The new album is supposedly out in May and I really can't wait. I just hope that Basia still want to record in 10 years... >I've always heard that: >- the first CD is the one that you obviously need, for a beginning >- the second is the tough one, because if the first is good, everybody expects >something even better >- the third is even tougher, because you've put all the good songs you wrote on >the first two and you have no more for the third >- and the fourth is your greatest hits! :) Or-- 1) your first is the little engine that could of record albums, that manages to suprise the record execs by going somewhere... 2) your second is a semi- big deal, it gets played by actual radio, VH1 loves you, and people start saying how big you really are going to be... 3) is some extra stuff lying around the studio to keep everyone sane for three more years... 4) finally comes out, but while a musical and artistic triumph, no one seems to notice or care, sadly 5) is a live album once again intended to keep everyone sane a little while longer 6) is a little guest appearance on a Peter White song... :) 7) is a friggin' song we don't even hope to get outside Japan until... 8) ... the greatest hits album comes out, which you didnt even want to make, but the record company made you. And it shows! >My favourite Basia's album is LWNY. It has the same atmosphere that PSB's >Behaviour has; it's mellow and sweet and "Cruising For Bruising" is Basia's >"Being Boring". TSI is very good, but it's too complicated for me, I think. >Overproduced maybe. LWNY sounds very simple, compared to TSI. In hy little humble opinion, TSI is the better album for the quality fo it, but LWNY is my favorite. It showed me how much better music could be, than what I was hearing at the time. 'Best Friends' still sucks, though. >Brave New Hope? The single? Has it got *7* b-sides?! Oh Gosh! That's good value >for money then! Actually, it's got 2 LWNY B-sides, 2 tracks we poor Americans didn't get on our version of Time and Tide ('Give Me That,' yay! ) , 3 LWNY remixes (tho' how much Brave New Hope was remixed was the removal of the drum- which they should have done in the first place), and the band version of From Now On. So as far as value, it could go either way. :) >OK, I'll do the hardcore rap remix of the song, retitling it to "Kill The >Bloody Angels", if Ashoke agrees to remake the lyric. ;) Eeek! I can't watch... ;) - --Leslie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V4 #58 **************************