From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V4 #9 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Sunday, January 10 1999 Volume 04 : Number 009 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Yearning ["Brian Cundieff" ] RE: Lyrical Interpretation [Michael Stanley ] Snippets From The Nutty Brit!! [Jan Johnson ] Re: Astrud Gilberto [Jan Johnson ] Re: Misunderstood Lyrics [Jan Johnson ] Re: Whale call ["Becky Witter" ] Re: Snippets From The Nutty Brit!! ["Ashoke S. Talukdar" ] Re: Astrud Gilberto ["Ashoke S. Talukdar" ] Re: Snippets From The Nutty Brit!! ["Ashoke S. Talukdar" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 06:28:54 +0900 From: "Brian Cundieff" Subject: Re: Yearning From: Joe Palcher Date: Friday, January 08, 1999 12:53 >But then, while listening to it tonight, I remember what always did >strike me about this song before. You know the sounds in the >background that sound like whale songs? Was this intentional to make >the (what I assume) synthesizer sound like them? And if it was >intentional, what significance does it have for her "yearning?" This is just my personal interpretation. I don't know what Basia and Danny were trying to say with the "whale song," but I think it fits the tone of "Yearning" very well. I don't remember as much about whales as I used to know (My first major was Marine Biology, but I didn't stick with it.), but I believe this is--or simulates--the song sung by male humpback whales to attract mates. Every year, they migrate from their feeding grounds in the arctic (and Antarctic) to warmer waters (around Hawaii, for example) for mating or, in the case of pregnant females, to give birth to the calves they conceived the year before. Besides the reason they are sung, the songs themselves bring to mind feelings of longing. But that's just me. ;-) >Also, any Basians in Japan? I know Brian is. I SWEAR the Polish that >she sings at the end of "Yearning" sounds exactly like the jingle for >a Japanese commercial for "Aomoriya." I forgot what Aomoriya sells. Can't help you there. Was Aomoriya a national company? By the way, I went to karaoke with my adult English conversation class Wednesday night, and the place had two Basia songs in their catalog: "Drunk On Love" and "Cruising for Bruising." - -Brian* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:27:22 -0600 From: Michael Stanley Subject: RE: Lyrical Interpretation >Also, I absolutely hate when artists print their lyrics with handwriting that >looks like it came from pharmacy school, or when they print their lyrics over >pictures, so that it is difficult to read. Does TSI come to mind folks?? Yeah... or when... Jackson Pollock splashes all that untidy paint ALL over a canvas, Or when one of those snotty French painter guys makes all of those really strange brush strokes all over so you dont know where the "Sun" ends and the "Wheat" begins... Does ART come to mind? My $.02 Recently Verbose Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:57:12 +0000 From: Jan Johnson Subject: Snippets From The Nutty Brit!! Hi Everyone! Just to let you know I am now back from my trip to Ohio. Ashoke, Meg, Jackie, Joe and Richard - sorry I couldn't make it. It's probably the closest I've got (or will ever get?) to meeting anyone on the list. Unfortunately travel of any description was completely out of the question. One of the friends we were staying with suffered a heart attack the night before we were due to fly out and whilst she's ok now, the burning question was what to do about Christmas. None of the kids can cook, and Dad was all for living on carryouts (at Christmas!!) so of course we had to pitch in and help. None of them really had any clue, they wouldn't even have taken the turkey out of the freezer if we hadn't emailed advance instructions to that effect!! Anyway, a good time was had by all; after last Christmas they were all more or less accustomed to our slightly "different" menu (roast potatoes, kilties) and because we imported our own table crackers etc. we soon had them sitting around a flaming Christmas pudding wearing silly hats. All that was missing was the Queen's Speech at 3pm!! We were slightly delayed on our return journey by the bad weather (boy, does it SNOW over there or WHAT?!!) but arrived safely last night. One of the most important items of news I have to report was that I made it to Best Buy and finally secured my very own CD and cassette copies of 'Clear Horizon' (which is only available here as an import at an even more inflated price than the ridiculously inflated prices we already pay). So the **name witheld** person on this list (you know who you are!!) who so kindly supplied me with advance mpeg3 copies of CH and GFY can now rest assured that in doing so they weren't depriving Sony of any revenue. Having listened to it in the car on the way home from work this evening (yes, back to work the day after a transatlantic flight - we're tough, you know!!) I have come to the conclusion that whilst GFY remains my firm favourite, CH certainly does grow on you after a while, although not being a particular fan of 'anthem-type' tunes, I would really love to be able to hear an 'unplugged' version without the backing singers (gospel choir?). UNPLUGGED BASIA - now, there's an idea!!! Finally, I just wanted to mention something that caught my eye in Joe's piece about Interpreting Basia's lyrics: >How many times have you fallen in love with a lyric that you thought >went, 'Show me a day with Hilda Ogden and I'll despair,' HILDA OGDEN?? You guys must get old versions of 'Coronation Street' (British TV Soap) or something??!! Because she left the show AGES ago!! Please tell!! OK that's it. You can bin this now..... Jan BTW (And this is NOT Basia related!!) Anyone who did go here http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/7758/index.html will be pleased to hear that the hotel chain coughed up the full cost of the weekend as soon as they heard they'd suddenly become famous on the internet!! Ooh, the power of technology..... Out of fairness I have decided to remove the page very shortly, so if you haven't yet had a peek GO FOR IT before the URL disappears forever!!! "May the sun always shine on your face May the wind always be on your back, May you have food and raiment, A soft pillow for your head, And may you be in heaven half an hour Before the Devil knows you are dead" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 23:06:25 +0000 From: Jan Johnson Subject: Re: Astrud Gilberto >Yes... i had a similar situation with 'Astrud'- i didn't know who Astrud >was so I thought it was just a little story Basia made up or something. >Evertytime I heard it i pictured this woman and the story-- what a >let-down when I found out what it REALLY was! Leslie.....as the world's GREATEST Astrud fan, I have to take issue with you over this one. Stan Getz's protege a LET-DOWN??? I for one think it's great that Basia admired Astrud's work enough to write a song about her. I keep meaning to email Ms Gilberto to ask if she knows about the song. Astrud's email address (in case you are interested) is astrud@gregmar.com, gregmar being the production company formed by her sons Marcelo (the kid on 'You didn't have to be so nice' from the 'Beach Samba' album) and Gregory. They print the emails off and give them to her, and I am assured that she DOES read them but she doesn't actually log on to the internet herself. Jan "May the sun always shine on your face May the wind always be on your back, May you have food and raiment, A soft pillow for your head, And may you be in heaven half an hour Before the Devil knows you are dead" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 22:49:16 +0000 From: Jan Johnson Subject: Re: Misunderstood Lyrics More rubbish from the nutty Brit. Regarding misunderstood lyrics, my favourite has to be Madonna's "La Isla Bonita". I KNOW the words are supposed to be 'young girls with eyes like the desert' but c'mon, who in their right mind would deduce that from listening to the song? My favourite is 'young girl with eyes like potatoes'. It really sounds like that!! I recently found a site http://www.flash.net/~trevas/index.htm which offered up even more gems, namely 'young girl with eyes like pesetas'. Pity the poor guy who thought that when Madonna sang 'Like a virgin' she was singing 'Like a bird, yeah'!! Madonna is probably the worst culprit when it comes to misunderstood lyrics. I saw an interview with her on the TV recently and I notice that she appears to have taken elecution lessons and now speaks with a perfect British accent!! Of course it comes as no suprise to me at all that there is not one single Basia lyric on the site.....!!! Jan "May the sun always shine on your face May the wind always be on your back, May you have food and raiment, A soft pillow for your head, And may you be in heaven half an hour Before the Devil knows you are dead" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 12:09:15 +0000 From: "Becky Witter" Subject: Re: Whale call Hi Leslie - I'd love to hear this interview.... could I mail you a tape? Let me know, Becky Leslie Brown wrote: > > >of "Yearning," I believe that really IS a recording of whale cries > (someone > >posted that info? or I read it in an interview? or on the liner > notes? > >or something). > > I posted that a couple of days ago. :) The full story is on The Sweetest > Interview, but to sum it up Danny felt the song needed an effect that > wasn't cheesy in certain parts of the song. They felt the whale enforced > the theme of the song. > > (BTW, if anyone is missing this fine fine interview disc email me > privately. I'm willing to share. :) ) > > --Leslie > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:02:05 -0500 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: Re: Snippets From The Nutty Brit!! Jan, the nutty brit (that sounds like a cereal), wrote: > >Just to let you know I am now back from my trip to Ohio. Ashoke, Meg, >Jackie, Joe and Richard - sorry I couldn't make it. It's probably the >closest I've got (or will ever get?) to meeting anyone on the list. > Sorry to hear about all the setbacks. Hope your compatriot is well on her way to recovery. Well, there's always a next time, Jan. BTW, London is one of the top five in my favorite cities, you know, and I haven't been there in over 2 years. So I can imagine a trip to London and Amsterdam coming up sometime in the not-too-distant future. And the next time I am there, you'de better set aside some time for a cup of coffee or tea, lady! And yes, occasionally, I still do take my tea with mail and sugar! :-D Regards, Ashoke. ________________________________________________________________ Ashoke S. Talukdar | When the darkness takes you talukdar@morph.ebme.cwru.edu | with her hand across your face Home : 216-381-5872 | Don't give in too quickly Imaging Lab : 216-368-8812 | Find the things she's erased MetroHealth : 216-778-8987 | Find the line, find the face Pager : 216-670-5872 | Through the grain... Cellular : 216-317-7079 | Fax : 216-368-4969 | Suzanne Vega ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:04:38 -0500 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: Re: Whale call Ditto. I would love to hear it too! Ashoke. > >Hi Leslie - > >I'd love to hear this interview.... could I mail you a tape? >Let me know, >Becky > >Leslie Brown wrote: >> >> >of "Yearning," I believe that really IS a recording of whale cries >> (someone >> >posted that info? or I read it in an interview? or on the liner >> notes? >> >or something). >> >> I posted that a couple of days ago. :) The full story is on The Sweetest >> Interview, but to sum it up Danny felt the song needed an effect that >> wasn't cheesy in certain parts of the song. They felt the whale enforced >> the theme of the song. >> >> (BTW, if anyone is missing this fine fine interview disc email me >> privately. I'm willing to share. :) ) >> >> --Leslie >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:07:02 -0500 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: Re: Astrud Gilberto Jan also write (about Astrud Gilberto): > >I keep meaning to email Ms Gilberto to ask if she knows about the song. > She does. Basia said (in an interview somewhere) that she actually got her producers to arrange for a backstage meeting with Astrud after one of the latter's shows. And Astrud did know about the song. Ashoke. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:28:35 -0500 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: Re: Snippets From The Nutty Brit!! So I just got a query about the tea with "mail" and sugar part. No it was NOT a typo. You see, the house I live in is one of many that were built in the 40s and has a milk box. However, in winter, it (milk box) being more accessible than the mailbox (the front steps are covered with ice and snow), the mail frequently gets delivered in the milk box! It's a common thing in Cleveland Hts and South Euclid! Hence, it's a standard joke. No, we don't have milk delivered in the mail box, thank god! I should have explained. Anyway, the message behind that metonym was "I take my tea with milk and sugar!" But you knew that, right? (Phew). Ashoke (who is reliving a moment of simplicity). - -----Original Message----- From: Ashoke S. Talukdar To: basia@smoe.org Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Snippets From The Nutty Brit!! > >Jan, the nutty brit (that sounds like a cereal), wrote: >> >>Just to let you know I am now back from my trip to Ohio. Ashoke, Meg, >>Jackie, Joe and Richard - sorry I couldn't make it. It's probably the >>closest I've got (or will ever get?) to meeting anyone on the list. >> > >Sorry to hear about all the setbacks. Hope your compatriot is well on her >way to recovery. Well, there's always a next time, Jan. > >BTW, London is one of the top five in my favorite cities, you know, and I >haven't been there in over 2 years. So I can imagine a trip to London and >Amsterdam coming up sometime in the not-too-distant future. And the next >time I am there, you'de better set aside some time for a cup of coffee or >tea, lady! And yes, occasionally, I still do take my tea with mail and >sugar! > >:-D > >Regards, >Ashoke. > >________________________________________________________________ >Ashoke S. Talukdar | When the darkness takes you >talukdar@morph.ebme.cwru.edu | with her hand across your face >Home : 216-381-5872 | Don't give in too quickly >Imaging Lab : 216-368-8812 | Find the things she's erased >MetroHealth : 216-778-8987 | Find the line, find the face >Pager : 216-670-5872 | Through the grain... >Cellular : 216-317-7079 | >Fax : 216-368-4969 | Suzanne Vega > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 21:11:39 -0500 From: "Joe Palcher" Subject: Re: Yearning Brian wrote: "Can't help you there. Was Aomoriya a national company? By the way, I went to karaoke with my adult English conversation class Wednesday night, and the place had two Basia songs in their catalog: "Drunk On Love" and "Cruising for Bruising."" I believe that Aomoriya is a national company--I'm sure you'd see the commercial sometime if you watch any TV. And I guess I must ask this question, Brian: did you see the Basia songs? :) raburabu joe ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V4 #9 *************************