From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V3 #271 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Tuesday, December 1 1998 Volume 03 : Number 271 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The Japanese bonus-track MP3s... [Joel Cairo ] Basia Tour & Perfect Mum [Meg Evans ] Weird Clear Horizon Theory [Beverly Martin ] Re: The Japanese bonus-track MP3s... [Bill Schnaitter ] Re: Weird Clear Horizon Theory ["Ashoke S. Talukdar" ] Re: As Louie Anderson would say... ["Ashoke S. Talukdar" ] Re: Weird Clear Horizon Theory [RonCB1@aol.com] Re: Basia & Disney (was Weird Clear Horizon Theory) [Beverly Martin Subject: The Japanese bonus-track MP3s... ...can also be found posted as two separate songs under the following headings: "=====> (2nd Try) BASIA: Live from who-knows-where!" in the following Usenet newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 and alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1990s I posted these using my *other* "nom-de-computer", Mr. Mulliner, so don't be confused when you see the name! (The tracks are crossfaded with applause on the CD single, so splitting them was no big deal, and made the files a more manageable size.) Those of you whose servers receive both MP3 groups will probably find them easier to fish out of the 1990s group, as it gets less posting traffic than the main group. Hope you like 'em, everyone!! - -Kevin (who's hoping Anders can get them, and, well-- you know...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:46:44 -0600 From: Meg Evans Subject: Basia Tour & Perfect Mum Hello all, Over the weekend Ashoke wrote: >Oh well... >Waiting for a concert, so I can light a candle for the chorus of "Clear >Horizon". Meg, are you ready? (We have to go in TSI outfits of course, >complete with a fake baby). Ashoke, which of us gets to wear the floor-length hoop skirt with the tiled TSI painting on it? And the matching headpiece? And maybe we can bring Kinnin (my big baby). He LOVES "Until You Come Back To Me." With regard to "Perfect Mother," that song got LOTS of airplay here in Chicago (on WNUA) when TSI was released. Must've been a hit somewhere! I always find it a bit strange to speak of Basia's "hits" because she gets little if any airplay in Chicago anymore, so I don't know what the rest of the world is judging her on. Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, ALL her songs are hits. Hope everyone who celebrated had a wonderful Thanksgiving weekend, Meg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:52:49 -0600 From: Beverly Martin Subject: Weird Clear Horizon Theory Hey gang, I was riding home last night, listening of course to "Clear Horizon", and I was thinking back to the other posts that have been discussing this album.... about how it was wished that it was a better, more personal retrospective of Basia's career. Then the thought hit me: Why exactly did this album even come about? And just as quickly a bizarre answer popped into my head: What is Epic JAPAN wanted this album and Epic US just followed along? Why would I think this? Well, after helping Kevin with the International Discography I realized how many ancillary albums have come from the Japanese arm of Epic: various singles, special releases like "Best Remixes" and "Angels Blush/Waters of March" -- in short, lots and lots of stuff that was never run through Epic US. So.... in a weird way, it makes me think that people within Epic Japan went to Basia and looked for a new release, and "Clear Horizon" came out of those discussions, and maybe somebody at Epic Europe or Japan contacted Epic US and they jumped on the bandwagon too. Whattaya'll think? -- Beverly Martin who ponders whether she watches too much X-Files........ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:55:36 -0800 From: Bill Schnaitter Subject: Re: The Japanese bonus-track MP3s... Folks, Just thought I'd let you know that cdjapan.com came through with The Best Remixes II, delivered on Sunday, 29 Nov., having been sent on Wed., 25 Nov. I'm afraid I got the more expensive shipping, partly acconting for the high bottom line. I was sure I ordered the less expensive shipping method but I didn't get a price for each so be careful on that point if you order from them. I would think they can get the single and ship it anywhere. - -Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:57:09 -0600 From: Beverly Martin Subject: Questions to Brian in Japan... Brian, I ask these questions since I would like to know some stuff from your perspective. When you went and bought "Clear Horizon" -- were there like any displays up with Basia's pictures??? Just as perspective here in my town, they had up displays for Garth Brooks and Celine Dion, but Basia was relegated to her usual slot in the Rock/Pop A-Z. At one Blockbuster they had it on a display with the other 11/17/98 new releases, under "Best Of's". Also, did people seem enthused about Basia??? I mean, in Japan, she's been (to my view) a pretty big star -- with lots of albums and speciality releases... Just wondering what you did see. -- Beverly Martin Pondering yet again....... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:13:30 -0500 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: Re: Basia Tour & Perfect Mum Meg asks: > >Ashoke, which of us gets to wear the floor-length hoop skirt with the >tiled TSI painting on it? And the matching headpiece? > You would definitely look much prettier than me. Besides, I don't do drag. I am sure we can find some outfit for me in the insets. If not, we will create one. We'll pick one of those for me. :-D > >And maybe we can bring Kinnin (my big baby). He LOVES "Until You Come >Back To Me." > GREAT IDEA! We're set. Watch out Basia Concert - here we come. Ashoke. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:53:44 PST From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: Re: Weird Clear Horizon Theory > What is Epic JAPAN wanted this album and Epic US just followed >along? > Whattaya'll think? You know, I had the same thoughts for a minute there too. Its a completely feasible theory. I just want the single to come to the US, that's all! Seriously, it makes perfect sense, but then why would they release it in the US at all if, following the precedent, they really didn't need to? Hmmm. I'm still of the thought that it's intended to make people kinda go, "Oh yeah, her!" before they wonder who the woman behind the sure-to-be-awesome '99 CD is. "Oh yeah, she did that 'Cruising for Bruising" song!" You get the idea. > who ponders whether she watches too much X-Files........ Hee! Mulder & Scully, Basia & Danny- coincidence? Maybe not. The truth is out there.... - --Leslie (....but I tend to 'trust no one' at Sony these days....) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:03:36 -0500 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: Re: Weird Clear Horizon Theory Leslie wrote: > >Hee! Mulder & Scully, Basia & Danny- coincidence? Maybe not. > >The truth is out there.... > Oh dear. Someone's been spiking the stuffing again. :-D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:50:45 PST From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: Re: Weird Clear Horizon Theory >Oh dear. Someone's been spiking the stuffing again. > >:-D > No, I think it was that neat reddish stuff that made that great noise coming out of the can. And it even was in the shape of the can itself! :-D Leslie (who didn't get nearly enough of it...yum!) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:56:25 -0500 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: Re: As Louie Anderson would say... I was able to get it without a hitch. Thanks. Ashoke. - -----Original Message----- From: Rich Uchytil - IR Geek To: basia@smoe.org Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 5:47 AM Subject: Re: As Louie Anderson would say... > >Ok everyone, Kevin's .mp3 file is at my anonymous ftp site! Here's where it is: > > ftp://ftp.billysbrassband.com/basia > >If you are using an ftp program, user is anonymous and password is your email address. Then cd basia, change to binary and get bnustrax.MP3 (yes, case does matter). > >Thanks Kevin - sounds great!! Please let me know if you have any problems. > > >Rich Uchytil >richard.uchytil@west.sun.com > > > > > > wrote: >>Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:48:04 -0800 >> >>..."Hey!!-- little help here!!!" >> >>Here's the situation: >> >>I've got an 8.4 MB file that needs to find a good home... somewhere >>other than just my hard drive, that is. >> >>Unfortunately, it's an 8 1/2 minute .mp3 file, and GTE.net will not >>allow these to be posted to personal websites on their server. >>Furthermore, since they're experiencing their usual bi-weekly funkiness, >>I haven't been able to maintain a newsgroup connection long enough to >>post it to one of the alt.binaries groups. >> >>Anybody have a site that I can send it to, via FTP, so you can host it >>for everybody's access? >> >>Here's the incentive: It's the two live (and unreleased) bonus tracks >>from the new Japanese "Clear Horizon" single... "My Cruel Ways" and "She >>Deserves It"!!! >> >>I thought that might sweeten the deal... >> >>Just let me know... It's my holiday present to everybody on the list!!! >> >>-Kevin > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:07:55 -0500 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: THE COPERNICAN CHRONICLES: Clear quiet sky... I have been listening to Basia a LOT lately. And I do mean a lot. Even my friends are beginning to notice. Good. I receive "Clear Horizon" with a myriad of sentiments. I believe that our lives are beautifully compartmentalized but the compartments overlap each other. This is the completion of one such compartment. _______________________________________________________________________ The first Basia song I heard was "Time and Tide". The CD was in the jukebox at a pub about two blocks from my house, that I played pool at. This was 1996. I remember having a beer one day and the first few bars of T&T started and I said to myself "God! What IS this?" I went out and bought the CD the next day and listened to it exclusively for weeks. As a matter of reflection, I actually put all five of her studio releases into the changer and programmed a chronological sequence of her tracks - starting with "Promises" and ending with "Clear Horizon". I am amazed at the consistency of her voice over the years. So unmistakable, so strident and so strong. Yet it has the power to soothe and heal, soft and warm. There is this ethereal effect throughout her entire body of works - from the hushed opening of Promises, where the mischievous ghosts beckon you into her magical world, to the chorus of Clear Horizon, whose subdued exuberance grabs you by the shoulder to say "Smile! It's going to be all right". It is a journey in time starting with that young, vivacious Basia who would break into wordless vocalizations ("Take him back Rachael" or "An Olive Tree") and change outfits with every song. She has travelled through perfect adolescence, perfect motherhood and perfect estrangement. Now, she is all grown up, having passed through the sombering filters of time and tide, to emerge with the things that were always closest to her soul - her words and her voice. It was also a journey perfectly complemented by the evolving musician in Danny White, with those restless fingers. What makes TSI my favorite album is not just Basia but what Basia and Danny whip up together. Again a perfectly compartmentalized set of contemporary pop. Contemporary, with a visionary streak, that is. It's impossible for me describe what it was like to hear the first line on Clear Horizon. It was much more than just the song or a few words. It was relief, both from having set such high standards for her and Danny and from wondering if I was ever going to get a chance to see them perform. It was also satisfaction because I think our love affair with Basia and Danny enters a sealed realm of permanence with the release of "Clear Horizon". And it is joy from being a part of all of us - a unique, wonderful family, held together by a simple and well-weathered thread. That pub, at the corner of Noble and Monticello, named "Barbary Lane" (after Armistead Maupin's "Tales of a City" locale), has since closed and the street corner sacrificed to the evergrowing industrial forest named CVS Pharmacy. Along with the bar, so ended my acquaintence with a variety of folks who used to frequent the place. In an ever-shrinking world, the creation of such distance is always a reason to ponder. So in some ways "Clear Horizon" was occasion for me to reflect on that compartment of my life, which in some ways, seems have entered its own realm of closure. Regards, Ashoke. ________________________________________________________________ Ashoke S. Talukdar | When the darkness takes you talukdar@morph.ebme.cwru.edu | with her hand across your face Home : 216-381-5872 | Don't give in too quickly Imaging Lab : 216-368-8812 | Find the things she's erased MetroHealth : 216-778-8987 | Find the line, find the face Pager : 216-670-5872 | Through the grain... Cellular : 216-317-7079 | Fax : 216-368-4969 | Suzanne Vega ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 98 18:47:23 -0500 From: Mike Nice Subject: Re: Weird Clear Horizon Theory In <3662CD61.39C217F8@earthlink.net>, on 11/30/98 at 10:52 AM, Beverly Martin said: > Why exactly did this album even come about? > And just as quickly a bizarre answer popped into my head: I loved "Go for you", "Angels Blush" and "Waters of March". "Clear Horizon" is still growing on me. While listening to it one day, a bizarre thought popped into my head - this would make the perfect Disney movie song to any one of a number of movies: (You can fly) - " A bug's life" "The black cauldron" "Aladdin" (Can your file melt her ice?) "101 Dalmations" "The brave little toaster goes to Mars" ...Ok so this is stretching it a bit! - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------- Mike Nice - ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:54:36 EST From: RonCB1@aol.com Subject: Re: Weird Clear Horizon Theory Since I work for Walt Disney Feature Animation, I'll let them know....lol. I haven't gotten the CD, but when I do, I'll listen to it.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:08:30 -0600 From: Beverly Martin Subject: Re: Basia & Disney (was Weird Clear Horizon Theory) RonCB1@aol.com wrote: > Since I work for Walt Disney Feature Animation, I'll let them know....lol. I > haven't gotten the CD, but when I do, I'll listen to it.... Ron.... personally I'd *LOVE* to hear Basia on a Disney soundtrack as compared to Celine Dion or Mariah Carey....!!!!!!!!! Caveat would be that she and Danny write the song naturally!!!!!!!! -- Beverly Martin knowing full well these could be fightin' words ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:18:05 -0600 From: Beverly Martin Subject: Re: Weird Clear Horizon Theory Leslie Brown wrote: > You know, I had the same thoughts for a minute there too. Its a > completely feasible theory. I just want the single to come to the US, > that's all! ME TOO!!! > Seriously, it makes perfect sense, but then why would > they release it in the US at all if, following the precedent, they > really didn't need to? Well, if they hadn't we might have gone postal! > > Hmmm. I'm still of the thought that it's intended to make people kinda > go, "Oh yeah, her!" before they wonder who the woman behind the > sure-to-be-awesome '99 CD is. "Oh yeah, she did that 'Cruising for > Bruising" song!" You get the idea. I hope so.... but since I have no progressive radio station in my town (sorta one that claims to be "The Planet" with world music...but they didn't know who she was, Philestines!) > > who ponders whether she watches too much X-Files........ > > Hee! Mulder & Scully, Basia & Danny- coincidence? Maybe not. > > The truth is out there.... Hehehehehe.... on the horizon, on a clear and quiet sea -- Beverly Martin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:05:12 -0500 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: Re: Basia & Disney (was Weird Clear Horizon Theory) Oh no!!! Did someone mention CELINE DION??? Please don't!!!! She's EVERYWHERE. Everywhere I turn. Every way I look. There's something by her. And if I ever hear that Titanic song again, I will jump off a haystack! Those sickeningly sweet songs she does. It's positively diabetic I tell you. :-D Phew! That feels good... >Celine Dion or Mariah Carey....!!!!!!!!! Caveat would be that she and Danny >write the song naturally!!!!!!!! > > > > -- Beverly Martin > > knowing full well these could be fightin' words > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:12:47 -0800 From: "scooby" Subject: Re: THE COPERNICAN CHRONICLES: Clear quiet sky... I don't know about anyone else here but I think Ashoke has stated quite eloquently how ALL of us feel, in one way or another. My compliments Ashoke! Mike Meyers - -----Original Message----- From: Ashoke S. Talukdar To: basia@smoe.org Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 4:00 PM Subject: THE COPERNICAN CHRONICLES: Clear quiet sky... > >I have been listening to Basia a LOT lately. And I do mean a lot. Even my >friends are beginning to notice. Good. > >I receive "Clear Horizon" with a myriad of sentiments. I believe that our >lives are beautifully compartmentalized but the compartments overlap each >other. This is the completion of one such compartment. >_______________________________________________________________________ > >The first Basia song I heard was "Time and Tide". The CD was in the jukebox >at a pub about two blocks from my house, that I played pool at. This was >1996. I remember having a beer one day and the first few bars of T&T >started and I said to myself "God! What IS this?" I went out and bought the >CD the next day and listened to it exclusively for weeks. > >As a matter of reflection, I actually put all five of her studio releases >into the changer and programmed a chronological sequence of her tracks - >starting with "Promises" and ending with "Clear Horizon". I am amazed at >the consistency of her voice over the years. So unmistakable, so strident >and so strong. Yet it has the power to soothe and heal, soft and warm. > >There is this ethereal effect throughout her entire body of works - from the >hushed opening of Promises, where the mischievous ghosts beckon you into her >magical world, to the chorus of Clear Horizon, whose subdued exuberance >grabs you by the shoulder to say "Smile! It's going to be all right". It >is >a journey in time starting with that young, vivacious Basia who would break >into wordless vocalizations ("Take him back Rachael" or "An Olive Tree") and >change outfits with every song. She has travelled through perfect >adolescence, perfect motherhood and perfect estrangement. Now, she is all >grown up, having passed through the sombering filters of time and tide, to >emerge with the things that were always closest to her soul - her words and >her voice. > >It was also a journey perfectly complemented by the evolving >musician in Danny White, with those restless fingers. What makes TSI my >favorite album is not just Basia but what Basia and Danny whip up together. >Again a perfectly compartmentalized set of contemporary pop. Contemporary, >with a visionary streak, that is. > >It's impossible for me describe what it was like to hear the first line on >Clear Horizon. It was much more than just the song or a few words. It was >relief, both from having set such high standards for her and Danny and from >wondering if I was ever going to get a chance to see them perform. It was >also satisfaction because I think our love affair with Basia and Danny >enters a sealed realm of permanence with the release of "Clear Horizon". >And it is joy from being a part of all of us - a unique, wonderful family, >held together by a simple and well-weathered thread. > >That pub, at the corner of Noble and Monticello, named "Barbary Lane" (after >Armistead Maupin's "Tales of a City" locale), has since closed and the >street corner sacrificed to the evergrowing industrial forest named CVS >Pharmacy. Along with the bar, so ended my acquaintence with a variety of >folks who used to frequent the place. In an ever-shrinking world, the >creation of such distance is always a reason to ponder. So in some ways >"Clear Horizon" was occasion for me to reflect on that compartment of my >life, which in some ways, seems have entered its own realm of closure. > >Regards, >Ashoke. > >________________________________________________________________ >Ashoke S. Talukdar | When the darkness takes you >talukdar@morph.ebme.cwru.edu | with her hand across your face >Home : 216-381-5872 | Don't give in too quickly >Imaging Lab : 216-368-8812 | Find the things she's erased >MetroHealth : 216-778-8987 | Find the line, find the face >Pager : 216-670-5872 | Through the grain... >Cellular : 216-317-7079 | >Fax : 216-368-4969 | Suzanne Vega > > > ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V3 #271 ***************************