From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V3 #267 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Friday, November 27 1998 Volume 03 : Number 267 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: basia-digest V3 #265 ["Lizy" ] Come to Heaven (was Re: Japanese Clear Horizon, etc.) ["Brian Cundieff" <] London Warsaw... Osaka? ["Brian Cundieff" ] Re: Basia on the horizon... ["Brian Cundieff" ] A Thanksgiving Present... [Beverly Martin ] Re: A Thanksgiving Present... ["Leslie Brown" ] Something interesting... ["Ashoke S. Talukdar" ] Odp: basia-digest V3 #263 ["Tomasz Radzinski" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 00:01:48 -0800 From: "Lizy" Subject: Re: basia-digest V3 #265 >On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:09:07 -0800, William F.G. McAbee wrote: >I was wondering when someone would mention the omission of REWARD, that and >Cruisin for Bruisin are my personal favorites from LWNY. >Reward is such a fabulous song, anyone else out there agree? >Bill I do! I was a little shy to complain about the oversight, but I wasn't sure how many people would make a point of it. I'm glad I wasn't the only one... Anyway, 'Reward' is one of those songs that just brings tears to my eyes every single time I hear it. The verses 'Father, I didn't really know you, Mother you are so very far away from me...' have such a personal meaning to me (I lived with my dad--who has since passed away--for one and a half years, separated from my mom for that period of time). In addition, when Basia talks about how emotional she got when recording the tracks from LWNY--I feel even closer to her. Basia is one of the few songwriters--Shawn Colvin another one of them--who I can really relate to and feel that they're 'speaking' to me. It can get eerie sometimes, it's almost as if they were custom-making songs for me... Lizy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:36:42 +0900 From: "Brian Cundieff" Subject: Come to Heaven (was Re: Japanese Clear Horizon, etc.) The other day, I wrote: >> "Go for You" >>reminds me of one of my favorite Basia songs, "Come to Heaven." I can't >>quite put my finger on it, but both have some kind of 1950s flavor. Then Leslie replied: >Thank you, thank you, thank you! I thought I was the only one! The song >structures are definitely not of this decade. You really don't hear >stuff that complex in the pop realm anymore. What that says for '90's >song stylings, I don't know... ;) Anyway, that song is sooo >well-written. They really are vastly underrrated. I absolutely agree! But it's only underrated because it was used as a B-side. I think it would have been very popular if it had been included on LWNY. Same for "Masquerade." Reminds me of the first time I saw Basia in concert. Toward the end, she asked the audience for requests. Someone shouted "Come to Heaven!" But she said the band didn't know it. Then someone else shouted, "Masquerade!" The band didn't know that one either. Oops. By the way, Leslie, thanks for the translation of that line from "An Olive Tree." Later, - -Brian* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:46:06 +0900 From: "Brian Cundieff" Subject: London Warsaw... Osaka? From: Joel Cairo Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 17:45 >Brian: > >If yours is identical, then we've got nothing to whine about, I >suppose... can you confirm that they're the same? Yup. Same 17 songs in the same order. I would have mentioned that, but I didn't know about this "extra track" business until after I sent the message. If what's on that web site is true, then maybe there was some kind of limited edition CD released on 11/11, which was replaced with the regular version a week later, but that seems unlikely. Anyway, it would have to be a pretty short song to fit onto the CD. The only other possibility I can see is that one of the 15 "old" tracks was replaced with the 3rd bonus, but again, I doubt it. Probably, it was just a typo or miscommunication of some kind. Which brings us to the subject of extra tracks on foreign releases. It seems that the US consumer gets the short end of this particular stick faaaar too often. When an artist I really like releases a new CD, I often try to find out what the Japanese and European versions have before buying the American. For example, Lisa Loeb's "Firecracker" had one more track in Europe and two more in Japan. Cake's "Fashion Nugget" in Australia was sold with a whole second "bonus" CD of live tracks! (Unfortunately, I'd already bought the U.S. version.) I just don't understand it. If Epic, for example, sells CDs in Asia, North America, Europe, Australia, etc., why would they not be the same in every country? I mean, I can understand why a label that has an artist who is very popular in one country might choose not to release their work in another. But what is the business logic involved in releasing a CD by so-and-so in one country with ten tracks and in another with eleven? I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW!!!!! As for the single... Unfortunately, I found out about that right AFTER I returned from buying "Clear Horizon!" AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH! As my schedule is pretty packed, it'll probably be at least a couple weeks before I have a chance to get back to the city. *sigh* But I'll let you know ASAP. Later, - -Brian* mrmorton@mnet.ne.jp P.S.- I just heard "Third Time Lucky" in the background on a TV show about Japanese wines. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:59:50 +0900 From: "Brian Cundieff" Subject: Re: Basia on the horizon... From: Ashoke S. Talukdar Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 06:08 >There is one benefit to this song - it has the potential of becoming the >staple sing-along tune in her future concerts. I can well imagine the crowd >breaking into the chorus, particular towards the end where it is mainly >voices and percussion. I know I will. Aww, Man! Now I really want a concert!!! >"Go for you" is a glimpse of the old Basia fire from the LWNY days. The >mischievous (and DIFFICULT) harmonies, brilliantly mixed - I loved this >song. On my way to work, I was rewinding through the chorus over and over >to try and catch the harmony line, but I only figured out a part of it. The >layering is almost perfect and it gives you a taste of Basia's breathtaking >alto (listen carefully to the word "heaven" at the very end). You almost >wonder if the lowest voice is Basia's. I was just kind of casually listening to the song up until that last "heaven." Then, I was like, "Whoa, let's hear that again." >On Kevin's post regarding the retrospective issue: > >Unfortunately for us, he is right. This album is really a "Greatest Hits of >Basia" rather than "The Best of Basia". You can almost tell that the songs >were picked on the basis of popularity. You think so? Some of them, obviously, but I've never thought of "Perfect Mother" as being a popular kind of song. >If this had been a real >retrospective (such as the recent "Tried and True: The Best of Suzanne >Vega"), Basia would have picked out the songs herself, and we probably would >have seen "Copernicus", "Reward" and few other songs. I hope we get something like that someday. (And I hope "Come to Heaven" is on it! ^_^) - -Brian* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:25:02 -0600 From: Beverly Martin Subject: A Thanksgiving Present... ...as the HTML architect for Kevin Segura's Basia: The International Discography -- we welcome you to the official grand opening today at: http://members.tripod.com/~Basiafan There is a quiz/survey at the "front page" and tons of graphics from Kevin's massive Basia collection. We both hope you like the website and if you have any images to share from your personal collection, please email them to me in .jpg or .gif format. Hope ya'll like it!!! -- Beverly Martin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:14:42 PST From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: Re: A Thanksgiving Present... Great site, but you might want to change the code to make the site fit smaller monitors. Im on 15" one right now,and viewing the site is a real pain with it. Maybe adapt your code so the size will be variable. (I remember doing that before in class,but I can't for the life of me remember how. :) ) Ben has BasiaWeb set up that way. - -Leslie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:54:23 -0500 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: Something interesting... Thought y'all might like to know... A fellow Suzanne Vega list member turns out to be a Basia fan also. His name is Ray Navarra (I assume that's his real name). Anyway, he inquired about the Basia list (I mentioned Basia and the list in a post to the SV list in connection with Astrud Gilberto). When I mentioned the Nov. 17th release of "Clear Horizon" to him, this is what he said: > >Yes, I know, she recently came to Poland to promote the album. She's done >some interviews, but she didn't play live :( (she only played live here >once, in 1994) > So she is doing at least SOME promoting. Once again on the other side of the ocean. Drat! Ashoke. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:04:47 -0600 From: Beverly Martin Subject: Re: A Thanksgiving Present... Leslie Brown wrote: > Great site, but you might want to change the code to make the site fit > smaller monitors. Im on 15" one right now,and viewing the site is a real > pain with it. Maybe adapt your code so the size will be variable. (I > remember doing that before in class,but I can't for the life of me > remember how. :) ) Ben has BasiaWeb set up that way. Whoops... forgot not everybody has big monitors, but resolution wise have you tried it at 800 x 600??? That was what I optimized the site for.... But I'm not a HTML/code writing guru like Ben so if you could quiz your professor I'd be pleased to slap that code in there. Will try to make changes when I have time -- probably next week. -- Beverly Martin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:09:21 +0100 From: "Tomasz Radzinski" Subject: Odp: basia-digest V3 #263 - ----- > > >>An Olive Tree: "olivkowe drzewo moze spelnic twe marzenia" (ah ha! I >knew >>I'd seen that word "marzenia" somewhere before...Leslie's e-mail >address! >>Pray tell, what's it mean?) > >Hee! "Maybe it was the olive tree that made my dreams come true." I got >a kick out of that for some reason. "Marzenia" means dream, and being a >Sandman fan as well, it kinda grew on me. (for those who don't know, >it's a comic basically about the bringer of dreams, the Sandman, who is >called 'Dream') > >The one problem with using a foreign word is that no one can remember >how to spell it. ;) > >(BTW, Tomasz, if I'm wrong on this, sorry for messing up your >language!;) ) > >-Leslie You're absolutely right, Leslie! Only this: the word "marzenia" is plural, so it means "dreams". Greetings P. S. I'm trying to translate the Basia's interview from 1997... Maybe I will finish it tomorrow. ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V3 #267 ***************************