From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V3 #244 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Tuesday, November 3 1998 Volume 03 : Number 244 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: My own little chronicle. ["Leslie Brown" ] Re: Tom ["Rob B." ] Re: Basia tour ... ? [Meg Evans ] Re: new album release [Meg Evans ] Re: Waters of March, in defense of [billsch@transmeta.com (Bill Schnaitte] Another vote for Waters of March [Meg Evans ] Waters of March and harmonies ["Leslie Brown" ] Re: Waters of March and harmonies [Meg Evans ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:45:27 PST From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: Re: My own little chronicle. Very thought-provoking, Thelma. Thanks. :) - -Leslie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 07:23:05 PST From: "Rob B." Subject: Re: Tom >Phil Hall wrote- >Regarding the earlier suggestion she get together with Tom >for an album - sorry, far too late, since he hasn't been down to >breakfast for a few years, now. yes, and one of his sons died a few months ago...it was merely the expression of an unfulfullable wish, not an actual suggestion. I sometimes forget written words don't always convey the true intent of your thoughts. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:16:30 -0600 (CST) From: Meg Evans Subject: Re: Basia tour ... ? Ben Combee, >Which two have been released? I've heard "Waters of March", but both >"Clear Horizon" and "Go For Now" are foreign to my ears. Old songs, new songs, previously released, previously unreleased, commercially available, commercially unavailable -- it's all very confusing! Let's make it FOUR songs (not THREE as I said), two of which many of us know already: Clear Horizon, Go For It, Angels Blush, Waters of March. Meg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:24:08 -0600 (CST) From: Meg Evans Subject: Re: new album release Diane wrote, >And there WILL be a new WHOLE ALBUM in 1999 - This is NOT a substitute. > > >TTFN! >--Di. WheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHA! (dance of joy) Meg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:46:45 -0800 From: billsch@transmeta.com (Bill Schnaitter) Subject: Re: Waters of March, in defense of PLEASE, for those of you who have not heard WoM, reserve judgement. Its one of my favorite songs, period. I was in Virgin Records in SF a couple of years ago and found the Japanese CD "Angels Blush." Neither I nor anyone in the store could tell what or how many songs were on it. I went ahead and bought it and was admittedly disappointed to find only two. I like AB a lot; but the coming of spring (actually the end of winter!) was a particular topic for me and after listening to WoM a number of times I was just crazy about it. It still is probably the song I could listen to the most times in a row. On "not much of a melody," I understand from a musician friend of mine that there is a real attempt to create a song with a minimalist melody, that is totally dependent on the accompaniment, rhythm, and harmonies for the music. Here the melody is trying to be just two notes but gives in with a very few others. (Ever heard of "One-note Samba???") To me that just adds to the impressiveness of it. The complexity of some of the harmony is just awesome. Think of the first time in early March you see crocusses popping through the melting snow... - -Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:16:35 -0600 (CST) From: Meg Evans Subject: Another vote for Waters of March Hello Basians! I love this discussion about Waters of March, which I first became familir with through Art Garfunkel's version. Over the years I have sung it over and over (alas, it is on vinyl and stored away for lack of space in my apartment). Basia's version, I think, is equally evocative (as the song is no doubt intended to be), and her harmonies -- well, Basia IS the Goddess of harmony and she does AMAZING things with this song! I know for a fact that both Ashoke and I (and surely others) are carefully picking her vocal layers apart to recreate them in our own living rooms and cars. I do not consider it any kind of punishment to listen to this song over and over in order to accomplish this. I agree with Bill: reserve your judgement of Waters of March, and possibly also take some time to further familiarize yourself with Jobim and his musical legacy. That's part of what makes the song so enjoyable. And yes, if you haven't heard it yet, find a copy of Gal Costa (or ANYONE) singing "One Note Samba." A further example of beauty in simplicity. >Think of the first time in early March you see crocusses popping through >the melting snow... Thank you for the lovely image, Bill. Meg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:57:13 PST From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: Waters of March and harmonies > well, Basia IS the Goddess of harmony and she does AMAZING things with this song! I know for a fact that both Ashoke and I (and surely others) are carefully picking her vocal layers apart to recreate them in our own living rooms and cars.>> Sometimes one can hear the weirdest sounds back there, too. Ever noticed? I can't think of any song examples right offhand, but sometimes I do the rewind thing so I can be sure, 'did she really do that?' Particularly on TSI- there's just so much stuff. Oddly it reminds me (regarding tons of layers of things) of Pat Metheny's Secret Story- there's so much sound that when you hear on headphones, it's amazing what you can pick up. I mean, Basia didn't layer it as much as Mr. Metheny (except on 'Yearning'- 20 background tracks?! Yes, over the top would be that) but the effect of pleasant suprise is still there. Not to mention the mood it creates. >>Think of the first time in early March you see crocusses popping through the melting snow... Thank you for the lovely image, Bill. YES- definitely that feeling (nice job Bill!) I also liken it to seconds ticking by as life moves forward, be it good or bad (the tempo helps). I really love the message of the song and it is really great to hear it being done again especially in this time of doomsday propheses and year 2000 paranoia. :) There's the waters of March, and then there's the damned mud (hee) - -Leslie (I like that Meg, "Goddess of harmony") ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:20:29 -0600 (CST) From: Meg Evans Subject: Re: Waters of March and harmonies >Basia didn't layer it as much as Mr. >Metheny (except on 'Yearning'- 20 background tracks?! Yes, over the top >would be that) but the effect of pleasant suprise is still there. From what I've read, Enya layers HUNDREDS of times (or at least more than twenty) to achieve the angelic sound she is so famous for. Twenty seems tame by comparison! Meg ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V3 #244 ***************************