From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V3 #220 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Thursday, October 8 1998 Volume 03 : Number 220 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: peter white show ["Stelmar, Kimberly" ] Re: Remix-A-Rama Part One- Polish Sumbas ["Denis Kosar" ] Re: Remix-A-Rama Part One- Polish Sumbas ["Leslie Brown" Subject: RE: peter white show Denis, Cerritos is in Southern CA, sorta near Long Beach. Kimi :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 18:24:53 -0600 From: tom@inetnebr.com, kelly&jordan Subject: departures review by tom > Lizy- just brace yourself- once you get in- for the 'Departures' file. > All I can say is, yikes! She must've been needing the cash at that > point! That song is "odd-but-cool" Sometimes people burn songs onto tape that were better left off tape, but all music is good music because "Music is the best". Let me describe these two songs to you all if you have never heard them.It is said by the Basia experts that this is the first time Basia appears on vinal.But is it really her? her voice on the lead? i don't know she could be singing backups it is hard for me to tell. It is was released as a 7" 45rpm (MCA794) 1983 side a; Haunted cocktails (J.O'Neill) side b; Departures (J.Brooks) produced by Mike Hedges A; Great guitar introduction. very synthy bass line w/ synthy sort of melody on top, perky eletro drums, real cello and accordian at the end and very very sexy/sultry female voices. The song is about a bar-crawl adventure that end up with a haunted cocktail. what the hell is a haunted cocktail. I like this song. B; Fade in intro, again very synthy, anti-perky electro drums. As I am listening to it, it sounds like it's sort of pig-french. sort of Cocteu Twins (sp) voice,, ya know. There is a bridge in the middle with some male voice. How would I make a song like this, get a 4-Track, get an old Sequential Circuits keyboard, ingest a Rorer 714 Quallude and press record. I ask that somebody on this list review the "Drunk on love remixes" for those on this list that have never heard that dance beat side of Basia. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 09:39:26 PDT From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: Remix-A-Rama Part One >I ask that somebody on this list review the "Drunk on love remixes" for >those on this list that have never heard that dance beat side of Basia. Great idea to do these reviews, Tom! I thought I'd offer my 2c since I really like remixes. Hearing other DJs interpretation of the original track is pretty interesting stuff, especially with Basia. It is very cool to hear her voice in another 'environment,' so to speak. First let's talk the general release of Drunk on Love, the 5-track remix CD you could pick up at your local Best Buy in '94. The 'Downtown Club Mix" is my personal favorite, it has a great 'urban' (for lack of a better word) feel, with a strong bass beat behind the song, which I think compliments it very well , especially with the scatting. Some background vocal tracks were added later which work in this case (not so well in the other tracks). Personally, why this wasn't distributed as a single is beyond me. Granted, the length would be a factor (there is an edited version, but not edited all that well) but I see at as another missed opportunity for exposure. My next favorite is the "Extended Mix," credited to Roger S. on the American release but to someone else on the Third Time Lucky UK single (I'll check on that). A very different take on the song with a sort of spacey background with far fewer beats per minute. I personally felt some of the most innovative remixing of the song took place on this track. Strongest part being the layering of "you'll never know a better day" vocal portions with portions of the scatting. This one is a whopper at almost 8 minutes but I loved every minute. The other tracks on this CD-5 were either album edits or remix edits so I'll just cut to the the "Roger's Ultimate Anthem Mix." This would have been better as "Roger S. featuring Basia" as you only hear her for about 2 minutes (of almost 12!). He does a lot of these 'anthem' mixes for a lot of people so this track is characteristic of his 100% club sound. Not exactly casual listening, but interesting. The only real big problem I have with it is the liberties he takes with the composition and the personnel on the track. It is quite disturbing to hear another keyboardist and different vocalists sing a Basia credited track. But the lyrics fit in with the club scene ethic, and I could see it in that environment. Gotta go to class now but next I'll expound (har har) on the other mixes on the DJ vinyl. Always good to remember that this song was number one for several weeks on the Billboard dance chart and jumped up it pretty fast after its release in the summer of '94. - -Leslie (waaaaay too much information, eh?) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:48:49 -0400 From: "Denis Kosar" Subject: Re: Remix-A-Rama Part One- Polish Sumbas I also heard the other version of Promises. It also has a club beat for dancing and thought it was quite good. It kind of gives you another side to Basia. I also liked the Band version of "From now On" She was very animated with the crowd at her Chicago conference. When called back for an encore, she says:" thank you this normally does not happen, here is the band version of From now on, try to dance to it if you can". Half way during the song she emplores the crowd to sing with her. It was a totally new side to her which I thought was great. She really needs to get the crowd into it. Denis with one "N" "Leslie Brown" on 10/07/98 12:39:26 PM Wednesday October 7, 1998 04:39 PM Please respond to basia@smoe.org To: basia@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Denis Kosar/PHG/Prudential) Subject: Remix-A-Rama Part One >I ask that somebody on this list review the "Drunk on love remixes" for >those on this list that have never heard that dance beat side of Basia. Great idea to do these reviews, Tom! I thought I'd offer my 2c since I really like remixes. Hearing other DJs interpretation of the original track is pretty interesting stuff, especially with Basia. It is very cool to hear her voice in another 'environment,' so to speak. First let's talk the general release of Drunk on Love, the 5-track remix CD you could pick up at your local Best Buy in '94. The 'Downtown Club Mix" is my personal favorite, it has a great 'urban' (for lack of a better word) feel, with a strong bass beat behind the song, which I think compliments it very well , especially with the scatting. Some background vocal tracks were added later which work in this case (not so well in the other tracks). Personally, why this wasn't distributed as a single is beyond me. Granted, the length would be a factor (there is an edited version, but not edited all that well) but I see at as another missed opportunity for exposure. My next favorite is the "Extended Mix," credited to Roger S. on the American release but to someone else on the Third Time Lucky UK single (I'll check on that). A very different take on the song with a sort of spacey background with far fewer beats per minute. I personally felt some of the most innovative remixing of the song took place on this track. Strongest part being the layering of "you'll never know a better day" vocal portions with portions of the scatting. This one is a whopper at almost 8 minutes but I loved every minute. The other tracks on this CD-5 were either album edits or remix edits so I'll just cut to the the "Roger's Ultimate Anthem Mix." This would have been better as "Roger S. featuring Basia" as you only hear her for about 2 minutes (of almost 12!). He does a lot of these 'anthem' mixes for a lot of people so this track is characteristic of his 100% club sound. Not exactly casual listening, but interesting. The only real big problem I have with it is the liberties he takes with the composition and the personnel on the track. It is quite disturbing to hear another keyboardist and different vocalists sing a Basia credited track. But the lyrics fit in with the club scene ethic, and I could see it in that environment. Gotta go to class now but next I'll expound (har har) on the other mixes on the DJ vinyl. Always good to remember that this song was number one for several weeks on the Billboard dance chart and jumped up it pretty fast after its release in the summer of '94. - -Leslie (waaaaay too much information, eh?) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:48:51 -0400 From: "Denis Kosar" Subject: RE: peter white show Bummer. I heard from Diane F, that he might be comming east to the NYC metro area in December. Cal doesn't cut it for me. Thanks for the info. Denis "Stelmar, Kimberly" on 10/06/98 11:16:36 AM Tuesday October 6, 1998 03:16 PM Please respond to basia@smoe.org To: "'owner-basia-digest@smoe.org'" cc: (bcc: Denis Kosar/PHG/Prudential) Subject: RE: peter white show Denis, Cerritos is in Southern CA, sorta near Long Beach. Kimi :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 17:00:00 PDT From: "Leslie Brown" Subject: Re: Remix-A-Rama Part One- Polish Sumbas >I also liked the Band version of "From now On" She was very animated >with the crowd at her Chicago conference. When called back for an encore, >she says:" thank you this normally does not happen, here is the band >version of From now on, try to dance to it if you can". Half way during the >song she emplores the crowd to sing with her. It was a totally new side to >her which I thought was great. She really needs to get the crowd into it. ...because if the show I saw her at was any indication, really lame people go to her shows and SIT ON THEIR BUTTS. I saw her at Pine Knob (metro Detroit) for the TSI tour and I just wanted to smack everyone. Not only was the place pretty sparsely populated (Pine Knob is huge, she should've went to nearby Meadowbrook IMHO- smaller, more personal, and she'd played there before) but they were dead weight. She had to keep prodding the crowd to respond. My friend and I kept laughing because we cheered really loudly for particular band members and no one really knew what our deal was (Danny was my hero at the time- I even bought Yamaha because that's what he had- so we gave extra shouts to him). Oh gee, are we enjoying ourselves too much? Sooo sorry! I personally was so excited that I kinda was also seeing Incognito. A bunch of fans there (as opposed to the rest who- well, god knows why they were there, scored free tix or something) knew how cool it was that she was there- one couple I loved were dancing down the aisles. She was pretty glad to see that. Plus she got to kiss a whoooole lotta people and got a whole lot of roses (I of course lacked the guts to give her one- BAKA! ) But I really kinda felt bad for Basia at a few points because she kept saying stuff, intended for us to respond to, and we really couldn't understand her. I don't know if it was the mike interfering or what, but her accent was difficult to decipher that night. Poor lady would wait for us to acknowledge what she said and then just kinda go, well......okay then. I'll go back to singing now. It wasn't the most fun feeling, I'm sure. :( - -Leslie going to work on midterms now ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V3 #220 ***************************