From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V3 #156 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Wednesday, July 29 1998 Volume 03 : Number 156 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Basia on Maternity Leave???! ["Denis Kosar" ] Re: Basia on Maternity Leave???! [Joe Baker ] Re: Jazz on the web [rrumsby ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:08:55 -0400 From: "Denis Kosar" Subject: Re: Basia on Maternity Leave???! Mary Anne, I too am from NY and I also listen to that station in the morning going to work (Pat and Ray). I missed that quote because I also have a slew of CDs in my car Basia, Peter White, Rippintons, Siro Gyra and more. It really is great that Basia has helped many of her former band members get somewhere but it makes me sad whenever they say things like that. The only cut that they play of her's is "Until you come back to me". I had heard last Fall, from DFI, that Basia wanted another baby. If she is pregnant, she must be in her sixth month by now. ANyway, lets hope for the best. Denis with one "N" MAPNINGER@aol.com on 07/27/98 08:51:29 PM Monday July 27, 1998 08:51 PM Please respond to basia@smoe.org To: basia@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Denis Kosar/PHG/Prudential) Subject: Basia on Maternity Leave???! Hello All - This morning I was listening to the smooth jazz station in NY (CD 101.9) and they played Peter White's "Caravan of Dreams". After the song was over the one DJ said (and this is a loose quote), "That was guitarist Peter White, another veteran of the Basia band, many of whom have gone on to make their own music, since Basia doesn't make any music anymore...." And the other DJ replied, "Yes, maternity leave..." Do they know something we don't?! I've been on this list for awhile and have heard lots of speculation about why Basia hasn't come out with any new music for far too long a time, but this is a new one on me! Mary Ann ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:48:16 -0500 From: "Dennis J. Majewicz" Subject: RE: Basia on Maternity Leave???! On Monday, July 27, 1998 11:39 PM, Jeff Hamilton [SMTP:jeffhamilton@mindspring.com] wrote: > > >music, since Basia doesn't make any music anymore...." And the other DJ > >replied, "Yes, maternity leave..." > > Excellent! Now - in another 15-25 years, there will be another Basia for my > listening pleasure! What a wonderful planet this is... > > > Jeff Hamilton - the capitalist > http://www.mindspring.com/~jeffhamilton/ > ICQ # 12061776 > And to think she didn't tell us first. ;) Actually I think they were probably referring to Danny's condition - or more precisely, his wife's. Don't you think? Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:47:22 -0400 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: THE COPERNICAN CHRONICLES: A Perfect Mother It's strange when someone sells you an orange bran muffin and you have to "eat between the lines" to figure out the "orange" part. Perhaps "imagine-an-orange-while-you-eat"-bran would be more appropriate. Personally I would think that "oat"-bran is easier on the dentures, both verbally and in texture! At 12:38 AM 7/28/98 -0400, Jeff Hamilton wrote: > >Excellent! Now - in another 15-25 years, there will be another Basia for my >listening pleasure! What a wonderful planet this is... > Ah but Jeff, you are assuming that it will be a girl! :-) Or maybe, sometime soon, Basia will give us another one or two beauties along the lines of "Angel's Blush". Anyhow, this issue of the Chronicles is devoted to mothers who are doing or have done a good job of raising a kid single handedly! I have had the fortune of knowing quite a few. ____________ It is odd that motherhood should pop-up in the discussion. Although somewhat morbid, I am in the process of collecting together songs about child abuse. The University Hospitals of Cleveland's Rainbow Babies and Children's Hospital has a child trauma wing. Yesterday I had the chance to visit it while doing collecting some x-ray images from a procedure that was being performed on a young patient. He had a fractured femur, after being thrown against a cedar chest. I was shocked to find the huge occurence of child abuse in the name of discipline! I am reminded of the following lines from 10000 Maniacs (from "What's the matter here"): "Answer me, take your time What could be the awful crime He could do at so young an age?" OR "I'm tired of the excuses Everybody uses He's your kid, do as you see fit But get this through That I don't approve Of what you did to your own flesh and blood" It is extremely soothing, and perhaps deceptively so, to hear a song like "Perfect Mother". It hides the reality of a different world. Almost. These were the thoughts going through my mind as when I came home and I forced myself to listen to "Perfect Mother", because something in me was having a hard time coming to terms with the utopian simplicity of that song. But the following phrase was like a slap in the face: "Can a child have child?" How true! Is this not what everyone thinks about young mothers having babies? And don't most young mothers also argue, that it will be different for them - their's WILL be a perfect baby. I find this to be an absurdly self-defeating concept. EVERY BABY IS A PERFECT BABY. The imperfection is a reflection neither of the pre-natal circumstances, nor the social norms of single motherhood. The imperfection IS a brutal reflection of our inability to cope with our frustrations. But must we feel compelled to take it out on our children. Don't get me wrong. I always have advocated discipline for children, and will always continue to do so. But this? Perhaps the worst mistake we all make is that because we are biologically capable of creating offspring, we have the arrogance to believe that we are emotionally and spiritually capable of raising them. More often than not, the reality is that we are not. For everyone who is having second thoughts about having a baby, the reasons seem to be at conflict against the most basic truth about a child - the child is one of us. Why should considerations regarding his or her existence be in any way different than those for adult? Why should the presence and absence of a child be a mere tally in the pocketbook or a future tuition bill. Perhaps the most important question that SHOULD validate doubts about parenthood (or not) is "Are we humanly capable of raising children?" If one thinks about it, it is very easy to abuse a child. Often it just takes the wrong words. If this makes you wonder, think how vividly you can remember words and phrases from your childhood that you found distasteful, unsettling or depracating. Remember too, that many of these were uttered by adults then like we are now. The words and acts, uttered and executed by adults around you, will stay with you till you die, as will the words you utter and deeds you do, with your cildren. This and only this tenet can raise the perfect baby. And if the baby is perfect, should it's preconsious expectations of life be any less? Peace, Ashoke. ________________________________________________________________ Ashoke S. Talukdar | When the darkness takes you talukdar@morph.ebme.cwru.edu | with her hand across your face Home : 216-381-5872 | Don't give in too quickly Imaging Lab : 216-368-8812 | Find the things she's erased MetroHealth : 216-778-8987 | Find the line, find the face Pager : 216-670-5872 | Through the grain... Cellular : 216-317-7079 | Fax : 216-368-4969 | Suzanne Vega ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:37:28 -0600 From: tom kelly & jordan Subject: mommy "That was guitarist Peter White, another veteran of the Basia band, many of whom have gone on to make their own music, since Basia doesn't make any music anymore...." And the other DJ replied, "Yes, maternity leave..." Sometime in the not too distant future, the little boy or girl sez, "Mommy why do we have all these gold and platinum albums hanging in the living room?" and mommy sez, "Well dear that's what I used to do for a living but now i'm a stay-at-home mommy." and the little boy or girl sez "Mommy you should make another one and I'll help" and mommy sez "Hmmmmmm." Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:59:54 -0400 From: Joe Baker Subject: Re: Basia on Maternity Leave???! At 08:51 PM 7/27/98 EDT, Mary Ann wrote: > > >This morning I was listening to the smooth jazz station in NY (CD 101.9) and >they played Peter White's "Caravan of Dreams". After the song was over the >one DJ said (and this is a loose quote), "That was guitarist Peter White, >another veteran of the Basia band, many of whom have gone on to make their own >music, since Basia doesn't make any music anymore...." And the other DJ >replied, "Yes, maternity leave..." > >Do they know something we don't?! I've been on this list for awhile and have >heard lots of speculation about why Basia hasn't come out with any new music >for far too long a time, but this is a new one on me! > >Mary Ann > Wouldn't it be rather ironic that a list devoted to Basia would be "last to know"?
OK gang, let's put together the facts we have;
As we have all heard, Danny recently married and is an expectant father. Couple this with the quip Mary Ann overheard on the radio. No one said that Danny and his Wife are expecting................ Always stirring controversy, jb "As long as people are still having premarital sex with many anonymous partners while at the same time experimenting with mind-expanding drugs in a consequence-free environment, I'll be sound as a pound! " - - Austin Powers, Man of Mystery ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 22:35:21 -0400 From: rrumsby Subject: Re: Jazz on the web Just in case you do not know about it or want to check out whats playing in other parts of the country go to:- www.ontheair.com/realjazz.htm you will find and be able to listen to Jazz stations from all over the country. bfn BobR paterson nj ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V3 #156 ***************************