From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V3 #143 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Wednesday, July 15 1998 Volume 03 : Number 143 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Basia and Lilith. [acmex@www.orb.org.mx (A-C Mexicana)] Re: basia-digest V3 #142 [Jan Johnson ] THE COPERNICAN CHRONICLES : Patrick of Hearts ["Ashoke S. Talukdar" ] Re: basia-digest V3 #140 ["Ben van Maaren" ] Re: News about Basia Internet Collection CDs ["Ben van Maaren" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:11:25 +0000 From: acmex@www.orb.org.mx (A-C Mexicana) Subject: Re: Basia and Lilith. Ashoke S. Talukdar wrote: > > Thanks for clearing up the producer question for me Diane! Dear Ashoke: (By the way, where are you from?) I really enjoy reading your frecuent contributions to this list. You are spiced the slow motion of this, considering our Basia, has only four records in 10 years or so. Saludos, Nicolas Montelongo (Mexico) PS Please use the "return" key more often. Will you? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:10:04 +0100 From: Jan Johnson Subject: Re: basia-digest V3 #142 >Check out the Astrud website that someone sent along last week (I'm afraid >I've deleted that e-mail -- it arrived last Friday morning I believe). You'll >see more information about Ms. Gilberto, plus tour dates, etc. Now Im REALLY >curious to hear what Astrud has been up to for the last 30 years. Glad to see that somebody actually reads my emails!! Well, for all you Astrud fans out there, once again the address of the page is http://www.gregmar.com/astrud.htm The site is maintained by Gregmar Productions Inc, the company which Astrud formed in 1990 with her sons Marcelo Gilberto and Gregory Lasorsa. Marcelo (then aged 6) actually sings with Astrud on the track 'You Didn't Have To Be So Nice' on the 'Beach Samba' album. Astrud's music is played a lot more than you might think. The title track of 'Beach Samba' was actually used in a television car commercial which was regularly shown on British TV throughout 1996/97 (for the benefit of Alfred and other Brits who may have seen it, it was the one wear the guy drives his wife's car without asking and on returning it to the house, she throws him out of the window into a swimming pool!!). >As for an introduction to Astrud, I highly recommend searching your local >used CD store for a certain "Jazz Masters 9" CD on the Verve label. As Astrud's albums, the ones I myself would most recommend are 'The Silver Collection', 'Beach Samba', 'Look To The Rainbow'and the concert albums 'Getz/Gilberto' and 'Getz/Gilberto#2' on which you can hear Astrud singing with her husband Joao, accompanied by Stan Getz and Antonio Carlos Jobim. All of these are still currently available. And you don't need to scour second hand stores, just go to http://www.musicblvd.com where you will find all these (including Jazz Masters 9)and more, including rare Japanese import albums featuring recent live performances (Astrud, being very popular in Asia and Japan, tends to release her new albums over there first). In my own collection I also have a 1970's disco version of 'Girl From Ipanema' sung by Astrud, it's very....ah, DIFFERENT!! jan_johnson@cheerful.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:14:47 -0400 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: THE COPERNICAN CHRONICLES : Patrick of Hearts Hi gang! This is probably the last post of this series. So bear with me. ================== It's been a few weeks, since I've been off my "non-stop Basia" phase. The CDs are getting a much needed rest. Oddly enough, my life is usually quite full of songs and sometimes various snippets of lyrics come popping into conscious AND unconscious thoughts. The latter are perhaps more interesting. So, today, while exchanging an electronic conversation of some poignancy, with a fellow list member, the following words popped in for a visit. "And later, I met a boy whose inner life was his true passion We did connect in an exploratory fashion He said: what ties us to this mortal coil we should sever..." Nothing more singularly exemplifies the connection between the art and the artist, than that which the art reflects. But it raises a point of curiousity. In its own way, each of our lives, is a work of art, in many different tastes, colors and flavors. It's not really necessary to perceive it as such, or even be acutely aware of it. But we try, at least in our thoughts - the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey" is the closest artisitic and visual attempt to capture the essence of humankind as pure thought. If indeed that is what we are, then all words and lyrics ever written ARE already what we feel, dream and live everyday. Putting this in the context of what I might have been thinking of, when the lyrics above came into MY thoughts, makes me ever so curious about what dearest Ms. T might have had on her mind when she wrote many of her songs. We rarely know this answer, maybe because some of the most poignant thoughts arise out of dark corners of our minds, where their origin is best left secret. Or perhaps it is because, we humans are limited by the boundaries of diction. Suzy (Vega) eloquently points out in "Language", the "solidity" and "sloth" of spoken words as being inaquate to "catch the blur in the brain that flies by, and is gone". However, the blur often leaves behind an impression that lasts longer than any form of spoken or written history. This is the impression that forms the illusion that created the Mona Lisa. This will be the impression that makes us all feel the presence of Basia when we hear her songs the next time and the next time. This is also the impression, whereby Patrick of Hearts may happily forver stay Patrick of Thoughts. I bid you peace. Ashoke. ________________________________________________________________ Ashoke S. Talukdar | When the darkness takes you talukdar@morph.ebme.cwru.edu | with her hand across your face Home : 216-381-5872 | Don't give in too quickly Imaging Lab : 216-368-8812 | Find the things she's erased MetroHealth : 216-778-8987 | Find the line, find the face Pager : 216-670-5872 | Through the grain... Cellular : 216-317-7079 | Fax : 216-368-4969 | Suzanne Vega ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:06:36 -0400 From: Jeff Hamilton Subject: Long live the Copernican Chronicles At 04:14 PM 7/14/98 -0400, Ashoke Talukdar wrote: >This is probably the last post of this series. So bear with me. Hey - we have the Basia-news mailing list for those who can't bear it. So (not that I would ever be one to encourage off-topic posts) I'm looking forward to at LEAST one new installment per week. These are all pretty good... Jeff Hamilton - the capitalist http://www.mindspring.com/~jeffhamilton/ "The primary purpose of the DATA statement is to give names to constants; instead of referring to pi as 3.141592653589793 at every appearance, the variable pi can be given that value with a DATA statement and used instead of the longer form of the constant. This also simplifies modifying the program, should the value of pi change." - FORTRAN manual for Xerox computers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:12:34 -0400 From: "Ashoke S. Talukdar" Subject: Re: Long live the Copernican Chronicles > >Hey - we have the Basia-news mailing list for those who can't bear it. So >(not that I would ever be one to encourage off-topic posts) I'm looking >forward to at LEAST one new installment per week. Ok. But you have to show your face first! (If y'all don't know what I mean, visit his website) :-D > >These are all pretty good... > Thanks, Jeff. But seriously, this stream has come around in a full circle here. I am not going to lurk - far from it. There will be other tales. There will ALWAYS be tales as long as there are scorpios. But there was only so much to even Copernicus. ________________________________________________________________ Ashoke S. Talukdar | When the darkness takes you talukdar@morph.ebme.cwru.edu | with her hand across your face Home : 216-381-5872 | Don't give in too quickly Imaging Lab : 216-368-8812 | Find the things she's erased MetroHealth : 216-778-8987 | Find the line, find the face Pager : 216-670-5872 | Through the grain... Cellular : 216-317-7079 | Fax : 216-368-4969 | Suzanne Vega ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:28:02 -0700 From: "William F.G. McAbee" Subject: Re: FW: The Orders > Am I the only one left who hasn't received his/her order? I did as Roach suggested below, and that didn't improve the situation any. Bill McAbee in Dallas Per Jeff Lohr: > > William McAbee - I have no record of your order, but I know you bought > > >stuff. Follow the directions up above and I'll forward the stuff to you > > >immediately. Telling me that you're going to get the postmaster to put me > > >away for mail fraud doesn't help me with getting your order out. Just > > >tell me what it was you ordered and I'll send it. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:48:39 +0200 From: "Ben van Maaren" Subject: Re: basia-digest V3 #140 Ben, I just had a couple of things to add to this story. Astrud was >included on 'Girl from Ipanema' over objections from her husband and Jobim, >at Getz's insistence. He knew that she had a tendency to sing flat, but he >wanted her on the album. In an interview with Neil Tesser, Getz recalled >"Gilberto and Jobim didn't want Astrud on it. Astrud wasn't a professional >singer, she was a housewife. But when I wanted translations of what was >going on, she sang Ipanema and Corcovado, I thought the words in English >were very nice. Astrud sounded good enough to put on the record". What the >interview doesn't tell you is that Joao Gilberto didn't speak English, so >couldn't sing the translations Getz wanted. Astrud, on the other hand, >could. And it is an ironic twist of fate that Joao, who sang the Portuguese >verses, was edited from the track of the commercial 45rpm issue. > Jan, thank you very much for this info. I've always believed the notes on the inlay with my main Astrud compilation on CD. (Which, BTW, is not a "Jazz Masters 9" or any other album, but it is by Verve, in the "Compact Jazz" series - a German print from the 80s.) Well, I know better now. Now for this: I have spotted 5 Gilberto songs in 'Astrud' so far >- if anyone knows ofany others please let me know (and no, 'Copacabana' was >by Barry Manilow!!) > >A Certain Smile >So Nice >Goodbye Sadness >One Note Samba >Fly Me To The Moon > >Jan Johnson Maybe, but I guess it would be stretching, you could also include in that list "Meditation", although Basia actually sings "...meditating...", but it appears to be a clear reference. And I don't know about "Lonely Heart"; that is so obviously a song title, but as far as I know never sung by Astrud. And, as a final point, to return to my qualifying Astrud's voice as "frail and ethereal": Basia appears to agree when she sings: "with the softest voice you've ever heard" and "a voice as light as air". How apt and how poetically phrased! Ben van Maaren ben.van.maaren@gironet.nl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:52:04 +0200 From: "Ben van Maaren" Subject: Re: News about Basia Internet Collection CDs Ben, It doesn't matter if you haven't got everything. We can wait. Boy, can we Basia fans wait! Anyway, put me on the list as well, please. Ben (the other one) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:54:43 EDT From: Samurai27@aol.com Subject: Re: News about Basia Internet Collection CDs I also would like to be on the list as long as you are making up one. Denis with one "N" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 04:37:36 GMT From: combee@techwood.org (Ben Combee) Subject: Good price on "Whose Side Are You On?" Hey, fellow Basia-nuts... working late at work again tonight. I just got an email from CDNow -- they are having a 30% off sale on imports for the next week, which makes all three import Matt Bianco albums $14. I'm just about to order "Matt Bianco" from them -- it will be very cool to have their second, albeit Basia-and-Danny-less, album on CD. The other two they had listed were "Whose Side Are You On?" and "The Best Of..." If you're interested, please visit CDNow through the links on BasiaWeb. Sales made through those links results in a small commision in CDNow Credit for me for directing people to their site. Note, as a rule, I don't emphasise that aspect of BasiaWeb. but I think this is one of the best deals for us Americans to pick up more Matt Bianco music, and didn't want ya'll to miss it. (BTW, BasiaWeb is at http://basia.techwood.org/ ...just in case) By the way, I got the CD mailers tonight, so the beta discs will go out on Wednesday morning. Contributors should look for them in your mailbox on Saturday or Monday. - -- Benjamin L. Combee (combee@techwood.org) PS: <53706f6f6e21> 48 /Helvetica findfont scalefont setfont show showpage ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 01:08:52 -0400 From: Joe Baker Subject: Matt Bianco-CDnow Website Visited the CDnow website as Ben C. had suggested via his link to Matt Bianco. Whilst viewing the available selections I decided to select the link "AlbumAdvisor ™: If you like Matt Bianco, see what the Album Advisor™ recommends. " Anticipating (my first mistake) the likes of Basia and perhaps something that would interest me, imagine my shock when the good ol' boys at CDnow suggested via AlbumAdvisor (trademarked no less) that I should find pleasure in a selection so aptly titled "Very Best of the Kingsmen." "The Kingsmen?", I questioned myself. Familiar, but not fondly so. Selecting the link to the suggested listening material, I was able to obtain a listing of the tracks on this album that, for some strange reason, would have some common thread w/ Matt Bianco. Track Listing: 01. Louie, Louie 02. Jolly Green Giant, The 03. Haunted Castle 04. Twist And Shout 05. Shout 06. Money, That's What I Want 07. Little Latin Lupe Lu 08. Do You Love Me 09. That's Cool, That's Trash 10. I Like It Like That 11. Shake A Tail Feather Am I missing something here? Louie Louie... wasn't that the song from the 60's that it's lyrics were unintelligible? Shake A Tail Feather? Little Latin Lupe Lu? What, may I ask is a "Lupe Lu" My reply to the AlbumAdvisor's™ recommendation is "I think not." Good buy on the music, but the AlbumAdvisor(™ , don't forget) needs it's AI tweaked a bit. jb ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V3 #143 ***************************