From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V3 #139 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Saturday, July 11 1998 Volume 03 : Number 139 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: basia-digest V3 #138 [Jan Johnson ] Re: basia-digest V3 #138 [talukdar@morph.EBME.CWRU.Edu (Ashoke Talukdar)] Re: basia-digest V3 #138 [Samurai27@aol.com] Re: Ashoke's wonderings.... [talukdar@morph.EBME.CWRU.Edu (Ashoke Talukda] Re: basia-digest V3 #138 ["Alfred Wong" ] Re: Danny, the happy chap; flashbacks [Somegirl99@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:58:18 +0100 From: Jan Johnson Subject: Re: basia-digest V3 #138 At 01:15 10/07/98 -0400, you wrote: >I find this interesting in the Basia context, because it made me rethink the contents of some of her songs (pondering thereof being partly responsible for the subject of this e-mail) and I would love to have your opinions on this subject if you have the time. > > "Where is she now? The lovely girl..." > >Peace, >Ashoke. ****************************************************************************** As an avid Astrud Gilberto fan, I was surprised and pleased to hear this song for the first time a few weeks ago. And even more pleased to discover that it was by Basia, who I had admired ever since Matt Bianco days, although it had never occurred to me to acquire any of her solo albums. BIG mistake....!!! Anyway, to return to the subject of poetry, the content of 'Astrud' so gloriously understated to the uninitated, is actually quite clever. Stringing together a series of song titles is nothing new, reinventing them as apparently innocent musings on the fate of a young girl so well known and yet at the same time so unknown (everyone remembers the song, but almost no-one can recall the name of the singer) succeeds in capturing a little of the sad wistfulness that made Astrud such a hit in her early days with Stan Getz without ever once mentioning the dreaded word 'Ipanema'. This ability to play with words in a clever but never contrived manner is something that I have come to associate with Basia's music, along with the obvious pride in her Polish ancestry which constantly reappears in a subtle but never obvious way: "I'm convinced that Chopin too Would dig samba if he had a chance to groove" And again that reference to Samba, a reminder once again of the music that so obviously inspired her. Can anybody please tell me why it is that whenever reference is made to Basia's musical influences, the name of Astrud Gilberto is never once mentioned? Oh. And whilst I remember, for those of you who may be interested, Ms Gilberto continues to carve quite a career for herself and is partcularly popular in Asia and Japan, where her new album Temperance, has just been released. Goto http://www.gregmar.com/astrud.htm for further details. Jan Johnson jan_johnson@cheerful.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:31:45 -0500 From: talukdar@morph.EBME.CWRU.Edu (Ashoke Talukdar) Subject: Re: basia-digest V3 #138 > > And again that reference to Samba, a reminder once again of the music that > so obviously inspired her. Can anybody please tell me why it is that > whenever reference is made to Basia's musical influences, the name of > Astrud Gilberto is never once mentioned? > Possibly because not too many people know about her. I certainly did not know. Now I will have to find out about her. Thanks. Ashoke. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:41:16 EDT From: Samurai27@aol.com Subject: Re: basia-digest V3 #138 Thanks so much for the update on Astrud. I started listening to her music when I was growing up in 1961 and was immediately drawned to her sound. That is why I enjoy listening to Basia so much. Antonio Carlos Jobim was also the greatest. You are right in every thing I have read from Basia never any mention other then the song and her comments about Cuban music as she calls it. Denis with one "N" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:08:55 -0500 From: talukdar@morph.EBME.CWRU.Edu (Ashoke Talukdar) Subject: Re: Ashoke's wonderings.... JOE!!! I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA!!! How about Basia doing a cover of Rhiannon!?! I think she would sound great! Ok Ok Ok. I will calm down now. >Joe Baker wrote: > > Don't know the deal w/ Morissette, but I'm reminded of... > I was referring to Alanis Morisette and all her flame and fury regarding ex's. > > Buckingham/Nicks and McVie/McVie went in four different > directions, personally and professionally. > The interesting thing is that this band (Fleetwood Mac) fell apart partly because all the individual parts went towards the whole. Case in point, when Buckingham left, two guitarists were needed to replace him. If you are wondering why, listen to the song "Big Love" from The Dance (tour) album (pretty recent). That is Lindsey Buckingham ALONE on the guitar. In Basia and Danny's case, I would have expected EACH one of them to be capable of successfully launching a solo career. > > As I was told by my parents, "Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly is > to the bone." > Hmmm. I am beginning to get insights into your unique heritage. :-) Ashoke. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:30:58 +0100 From: "Alfred Wong" Subject: Re: basia-digest V3 #138 >At 01:15 10/07/98 -0400, Jan wrote: > >And again that reference to Samba, a reminder once again of the music that >so obviously inspired her. Can anybody please tell me why it is that >whenever reference is made to Basia's musical influences, the name of >Astrud Gilberto is never once mentioned? > Jan, You will be pleased to know that in the "In Conversation with Simon Bates" video, Basia actually listed Astrud Gilberto as one of her (then) recent influence - having bought her first Gilberto album the previous year (1986). Basia explained that it was Matt Bianco who actually introduced her to Samba music. Before that she had never sung Samba, and up to that time her influence was mainly Soul, American Rock, regular pop, Polish folk music and impressionist/romantic classical music (Chopin, Schumann and the likes). Alfred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 20:48:08 EDT From: Somegirl99@aol.com Subject: Re: Danny, the happy chap; flashbacks > From Sat Jun 08 10:44:45 1996 > > Ooops. Is Peter White someone real (i.e. a somewhat popular musician) or > did that just pop into my head? > > ***** > > From Sat Jun 08 15:16:42 1996 > > Man, I do NOT want to be around when Diane gets that message... ;) LOL I remember that... which means I've been on the list longer than you. Cool, I've got senority! :-) Jacki ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V3 #139 ***************************