From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V3 #105 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Sunday, June 7 1998 Volume 03 : Number 105 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The great PW debate & food &tc... ["Diane F. Fisli" ] RE: Meg, Ginger (Spice?), T&T cover ["monsta0@flash.net" ] Re: The great PW debate & food &tc... [jp ] Re: Matt Bianco CD to sell ["William F.G. McAbee" ] Re: The great PW debate & food &tc... [Whipple930@aol.com] Re: Juan-tubes [Whipple930@aol.com] just testing the new modem [kelly tom & jordan ] Re: bruce_@hotmail.com is an analogue fool! ["Bruce Anderson" Subject: The great PW debate & food &tc... Robert Burns wrote: >And heck, if you want real >variety, he wrote the music to "Year of the Cat"... Nope, that was another PW - Peter Wood. You must have that single that lists Peter WHITE as the co-author! (oops!) Peter White co-wrote "Time Passages" and quite a few other Al Stewart songs of that era. :) Meg writes: >Or we can speculate on Basia's favorite foods -- pierogis? >fish'n'chips? haggis? Can she AFFORD fish'n'chips, considering she's >probably standing in a bread line somewhere because she hasn't put out a >record in four years? Does she even LIKE bread? Gawd Meg, you are a riot! (I love it!) :D According to the "SI" tour program I have, Basia likes Japanese cuisine. Wa! >See NewtonBuss, there is SO much we can talk about! Don't give up. Before >you know it you'll warm up to this list and have lots of new friends and >learn things you never even cared about before. Hang in there! (And I >REALLY mean that.) :) I second that, Meg! Dennis adds (on the food debate) - > I always thought it was bigos... Ah yes, that was it! I couldn't handily find my LWNY program - probably underneath all these danged photos & such on my desk. > By the way, now that we've solved the Mac vs PC thing, can we go on >to something more meaningful - like Ford or Chevy - or Ginger or Mary Ann? Chevy, please... And I've always been rather partial to The Professor. ;) Then again there's always Maynard G. Krebs. (what was that about pot?) (gawd!) Now I've dated *my* poor ol' creaky butt... Oh well... Groovy! (heh!) Write to Basia. Write to Basia! Write to Basia!!! She loves getting mail from people but she never responds (go figure)... HONEST, it's true. Her work isn't created in a vacuum - so write and tell her you want MORE and maybe that'll sparks something to get her back into the studio instead of continuing to hide out in that little house in the valley where the sun's always shining and her neighbors REALLY ARE Geoff & Jill. She really does live in Biggin Hill... TTFN! --Di. The trouble with doing nothing is that you never know when you are finished. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 02:18:34 -0500 From: "monsta0@flash.net" Subject: RE: Meg, Ginger (Spice?), T&T cover On Friday, June 05, 1998 11:04, Jeff Hamilton[SMTP:jeffhamilton@mindspring.com] wrote: > > Dennis added: > >By the way, now that we've solved the Mac vs PC thing, can we go on > >to something more meaningful - like Ford or Chevy - or Ginger or Mary Ann? > > Maybe I'm showing my very young age, but I don't get the "Ginger or Mary > Ann" bit. Wow! You must be *really* young if you don't remember "Gilligan's Island!!" It warms my heart to know that Basia appeals even to elementary school kids. ^_~ How about one from a later (and stranger) decade: Janet or Chrissie? > > [the following is a bad attempt to start a Basia-related thread, but I am > being quite honest about my own feelings here] > > Does anyone else on this list hate the cover illustration/photograph to > "Time And Tide" (I really do)? Just wondering. I don't like that cover either. And I *DO* think she looked very cute in some of her other short hair photos from those days. That picture just doesn't look like her. - -Brian* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 06:36:24 -0500 From: rburns@execpc.com Subject: Re: The great PW debate & food &tc... Diane F. Fisli wrote: > Nope, that was another PW - Peter Wood. You must have that single that > lists Peter WHITE as the co-author! (oops!) Peter White co-wrote "Time > Passages" and quite a few other Al Stewart songs of that era. :) Ummmm... I hate to disagree with you, but since I am, I'll use your own interview with Al Stewart to do it. Interested readers can see the whole thing at: http://www.peterwhite.com/pwweb8.htmAs a second point of proof, Peter showed me how to play the intro to the YoTC after mentioning his involvement with it. And now, the interview: dff: So now getting to Peter White, when you initially hired him you wanted him in your band as a keyboardist. How did it happen that he ended up playing the guitar for you? AS: Well, he was in Principal Edward's Magic Theatre at the time, which I’m sure he’s told you all about. [NB: Peter assures me that he had nothing to do with the fact that this long-together band broke up not one month after he started with them! -- dff] Yeah, we hired him as a keyboard player. We went on tour, the Modern Times tour, and that’s what we hired him for. We went straight off to America and did an extended tour with Linda Rondstat, opening for her. Then we went back to England and began making Year Of The Cat. It came about that we were doing “On The Border”, and wanted a Spanish guitar. Peter claimed that he knew how to play the Spanish guitar (laughs) and so we said, okay, here’s a Spanish guitar, give it a go, and -- He did! What you hear on the record was the first thing he ever recorded for us. It seemed to work, so he did some more! - -Robert - -- "When the flames have their season; Will you still hold your reason? Loaded down with your talents; Can you still keep your balance?" -Emerson, Lake & Palmer ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 06:41:04 -0500 From: rburns@execpc.com Subject: Re: The great PW debate & food &tc... Oh good Lord, can I take that last message back Diane?? I was re-reading that interview, and you're right. Sorry! Peter really did show me how to play it! Heck, now I gotta learn to play Time Passages. Eating crow, - -Robert - -- "When the flames have their season; Will you still hold your reason? Loaded down with your talents; Can you still keep your balance?" -Emerson, Lake & Palmer ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 08:39:56 -0400 From: jp Subject: Re: bruce_@hotmail.com > > And if you have not heard Basia's great voice through tubes, you need to >do it > > I agree completely. I don't have anything as fine as a Mac (the amp, not the computer), but she sounds absolutely great through my 1963 Magnavox with 15" speakers. Ha. And there is a reason - tubes amplify and distort on the same harmonics as musical instruments and the human voice. So tubes add fullness and depth. Solid state amplifiers amplify everything - making, IMHO, a harsher sound. un abrazo, juan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 08:47:14 -0400 From: jp Subject: Re: The great PW debate & food &tc... Dianne wrote: >Then again there's always Maynard G. Krebs. (what was that about pot?) >(gawd!) > >Now I've dated *my* poor ol' creaky butt... Oh well... Groovy! (heh!) > I wrote the story my station aired on Bob Denver's bust. I wanted to end the story with the anchor saying, "Of course, those folks who remember Maynard G. Krebbs may not be surprised." But no one else in the newsroom knew who Maynard was, so I decided the audience may not either. And Di, we've probably just confused a great deal of the list, too. Let me get back to WORK. un abrazo, juan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 14:09:49 -0700 From: "William F.G. McAbee" Subject: Re: Matt Bianco CD to sell Dirk: Nothing personal, and no offense, but I think I've had my fill of ordering on the digest, courtesy of Roach! > > For those who want to catch up on Basia's former emloyer and MB fans with > limited possiblilities to acquire MB's albums due to geographical reasons, > I can warmly recommend the record. > > The CD goes to the highest offer, end of bidding is Saturday, 14.6.98 > > > Dirk > > "It's fifteen hundred miles to Ankh Morpork, We've got three hundred and > sixtythree elephants, fifty carts of forage, the monsoon's about to break > and we're we're wearing....we're wearing... sort of things like glass, only > dark.... dark glass things on our eyes...." > Azrhual, Elephant Trader, Klatchian Empire > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dpilat ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 14:18:06 EDT From: Whipple930@aol.com Subject: Re: The great PW debate & food &tc... HI Whats this Ford/Chevy shit. If we are going there I want a dicussion on something I might really buy. Right now I am deciding on a BMW 530ti or a M-B ml320 for my wife and the baby we are going to have. I am just offended that you could compair Mac/IBM to Ford/Chevy. Mac/IBM would be more like the BMW/M-B thing I'm talking about. Ford/Chevy is more like microwave/oven; you know something everyone needs but hardly worthy of serious debate. BASIA, BASIA WE WANT YOU !!!!!!!!!!! I'm thinking of doing my own Basia bootleg album if something dosent hapen soon. You people are the best Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 14:56:41 EDT From: Whipple930@aol.com Subject: Re: Juan-tubes AH a fellow tube head. What a find. But I have 2 minor corrections for you: 1) Your 15" speaker is not harmonically correct. This is simply the nature of odd sized speakers. All 15, 18, and also the ever popular 10 are harmonically lacking because of a few rules of physics. I do not know what your background is but I will be very simple(not to talk down to you). Basically if you took a 20Hz signal (and the octived harmonics) lied it out flat so you could measure the length of the signal band, it would be either divisible or a multiple if 12. This only works in the low freq. Of 120Hz and lower. I know this sounds strange but after being a master audio tech for 7 years it was shown to me and proven to me. The difference is microscopic, but in a analchoic chamber you can hear it. It comes across as a faint siblance in the background. But the fact of the matter is that you and I can't hear it in our living rooms. But knowing its there made me do some changes to my old system. Please realize that this is for your information and as with all free info its worth exactly what it cost; "nothing" . Its just FYI 2) When using a abbrevation for Mc Intosh use Mc-I. I have had people chastise me for using Mac thank you Mike Tiptoe through the vacuum tubes. Tiny Tims only great song. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 16:22:51 -0200 From: kelly tom & jordan Subject: just testing the new modem nothing yet. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 17:09:29 PDT From: "Bruce Anderson" Subject: Re: bruce_@hotmail.com is an analogue fool! >You thought CPM was something you haven't herd in a while. Well I got >something for you FORTRAN cobal Pascal machine code >programming in binary using punch cards and a card reader Oh, well... Let's try ada if we're talking old languages... ^_^ I can honestly say I've never used a computer with a punch card reader. Thank God. > I got more > > gwbasic UNIX bubble memory >magnetic memory (remember the little magnetic doughnuts strung on the strains of silk then read as a binary) Unix ain't out of date. It's still going strong. Now MULTICS...there's something for the history books, or Space War, the first computer game with graphics... Bubble memory...man, you're bringing back my first computer history classes... > and finally the best one of all > > > the great vacuum tube Ah, yeah... ENIAC and UNIVAC... These things were huge, took up entire rooms, and they had to have dedicated support staffs. In those days the computers ran us, not the other way 'round. >witch, by the way most of my fine McIntosh stereo equipment has. > I can see the faint glow of them in the living >room. Sounds very nice. I don't think I've ever heard audio via an analogue amp before... > And if you have not heard Basia's great voice through tubes, you need to >do it Someday... > > > Basia prayer of the day > > "At least give us a greatest hits album. I would >even take vinyl. For those of you too young , vinyl was before cd's you >know like the stone age. Wow...was this before the 8-track? ;) ja ne... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:51:59 -0500 From: "Don Leuty" Subject: Re: bruce_@hotmail.com is an analogue fool! Children, Children. >>You thought CPM was something you haven't herd in a while. Well I >got >>something for you FORTRAN cobal Pascal >machine code Or EDOS and ALGOL, D COBOL and FCOBOL >>programming in binary using punch cards and a card reader There are some among us that think that "card" is the original 4-letter word. > >Unix ain't out of date. It's still going strong. Now MULTICS...there's Ah yes. GE's legacy to Honeywell. Does anyone remenber what the Singer machines used for an O/S. >something for the history books, or Space War, the first computer game >with graphics... > >Bubble memory...man, you're bringing back my first computer history >classes... > >> and finally the best one of all >> >> >> the great vacuum tube How about the term "tape stretch"? > >Ah, yeah... ENIAC and UNIVAC... These things were huge, took up entire >rooms, and they had to have dedicated support staffs. In those days the >computers ran us, not the other way 'round. You left out MANIAC. >>witch, by the way most of my fine McIntosh stereo equipment has. >> I can see the faint glow of them in the >living >>room. > >Sounds very nice. I don't think I've ever heard audio via an analogue >amp before... > >> And if you have not heard Basia's great voice through tubes, you >need to >>do it > >Someday... > >> >> >> Basia prayer of the day >> >> "At least give us a greatest hits album. >I would >>even take vinyl. For those of you too young , vinyl was before cd's >you >>know like the stone age. > >Wow...was this before the 8-track? ;) Yep, Vinyl is the era of 45's and 33-1/3 LPs. They were great because they didn't break like the 78's Hmmmm. 78's....Andrews Sisters....Time and Tide....is there a cosmic connection there? There just may be a Basia album out of the past lurking, waiting to be born again.... Or is that just another Ronstadt does Gershwin making muffled noises in the attic. The next thing you know we will be hearing about De Sotos and Studebakers. I see a warp in the fabric of time, it approaches.... pfzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 23:08:38 EDT From: Whipple930@aol.com Subject: Re: keyneill your modem seems to have a limited vocabulary. try sending some more next time. Still looking for Kilroy i know he is here basia (notice the lower case letter) we want a little something please Mike whipple930 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 00:48:32 EDT From: Whipple930@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: bruce_@hotmail.com is an analogue fool! In a message dated 6/6/98 10:54:27 PM, you wrote: <> Did they use a mechinical type of hard programming. I seem to remember machining a camshaft that was used to change the axis of the needle and the action of the foot. <<> Unless you have one of the very few digital amps (and very expensive I might add) You have heard nothing but analogue amps. Digital amps are ok if you do nothing but listen to subsonic sounds 80 Hz and lower, but they are crap on anything over 285 Hz. I have listened to 2 different digital amps one was a Infinity and the other was from Kenwood I beleave. The only redeeming quality I thought they had was their size, very small for the power. But then again I think Bose is the biggest pile of @#&% that ever came out the sewer, Not that I am "anti-Bose" or anything (that is a throw back to the anti-Mac people who usually own Bose @#&% ). Mabe I should get off the fence on the issue..... NOT .......! Back to the digital stuff, I beleave you meant to say "solid-state" amps. Because, tubes are not solid state like most everything sense , oh, lets see, about 1968 of 1970. I really don't know the year exactly, however I will find out. I was only 4 or 5 at the time, so please forgive me if I am wrong. <<