From: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org (basia-digest) To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V3 #102 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Sender: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Thursday, June 4 1998 Volume 03 : Number 102 Today's Subjects: ----------------- why did you wanna go and do that for? ["Bruce Anderson" ] Sade ["John Joseph Palcher" ] Re: NEW ALBUM just for Jeff [Cintron ] MacAmp (Was: wow meg you mentioned me) ["Lars-Ove Karlsson" ] Inquiring minds ... [Meg Evans ] Re: basia-digest V3 #101 [Richard216@aol.com] MacAmp ["Bruce Anderson" ] Re: Inquiring minds ... ["Bruce Anderson" ] Re: Inquiring minds ... [Anders Hamre ] Let The Games Begin [Meg Evans ] Re: Let The Games Begin ["Huh?" ] Re: Inquiring minds ... [Somegirl99@aol.com] Re: Inquiring minds ... [Jeff Hamilton ] Re: Inquiring minds ... [Jeff Hamilton ] RE: Major Basia News! ["monsta0@flash.net" ] SPICY TALK FOR A BUNCH OF BASIA LOVERS [Whipple930@aol.com] Windows sucks, Mac sucks. Cant' we all get along? ["monsta0@flash.net" Subject: why did you wanna go and do that for? >MacAmp can be downloaded here... > >http://macamp.lh.net/macamp.sit.hqx > >P.S. I'm anti-Mac but any fan of Basia's is a friend of mine... why is it that pc users all seem to be "anti-mac"? why is it that pc users seem to need to point out the fact? why is it that pc users always seem to need to attack the mac? why can't they just admit that windows bites the big one and get over it and just buy the better system? i've been to your web site. you're a musician. why don't you use a mac for recording, sequencing, writing? the only better system would be an atari falcon. ja, mata ne, bruce who has the flu, so don't get this message too close to your pc...i know how susceptible to viruses windows is. ^_^ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 01:58:47 -0400 From: Jeff Hamilton Subject: Re: why did you wanna go and do that for? At 10:28 PM 6/2/98 PDT, you wrote: >why is it that pc users all seem to be "anti-mac"? >why is it that pc users seem to need to point out the fact? >why is it that pc users always seem to need to attack the mac? I don't know but for me, it's just being trendy (and as we all know, being trendy generally means being stupid). Every young man must make two crucial choices at an early age. #1 = FORD or CHEVY? #2 = PC or MAC? I decided to go with Fords and PCs and if I change my choices, people I knew in elementary school would seek me out and tar and feather me. I've used Macs before and I have nothing at all against them, but since I've used PCs so much, it's what I'm used to, and so I can work much faster on them. >why can't they just admit that windows bites the big one and get over it >and just buy the better system? Well, windows does "bite the big one". Surely as soon as some serious riches befall me, i'll get around to upgrading my PCs to Macs and my Fords to Mercedes-Benzs (that CAN'T be the proper way to pluralize "Mercedes Benz"!). >i've been to your web site. you're a musician. why don't you use a mac >for recording, sequencing, writing? the only better system would be an >atari falcon. You're close. My music doesn't get anywhere near this PC. I use an Atari ST for sequencing and analog tape for "digital" (not!) audio work. >bruce who has the flu, so don't get this message too close to your >pc...i know how susceptible to viruses windows is. ^_^ No kidding! It's one thing or another at least twice a week with this thing... Jeff Hamilton - the capitalist http://www.mindspring.com/~jeffhamilton/ to join the 461 (network), send a message to four.six.one@mindspring.com and hope for the best ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 01:19:56 -0700 From: "Diane F. Fisli" Subject: No real news, really, Jeff! Jeff (the capitalist) nobly writes >I'm anti-Mac but any fan of Basia's is a friend of mine... Bravo! Now, if Jeff can be this good about things Mac/PC, maybe we'd all better stop giving him a heart attack with our subject lines! =:o I don't think you're kidding Jeff - When I see one of those subject lines I have to wonder WHO scooped Roach... Or for that matter, me... ;) Maybe in lieu of writing to Basia, we all ought to write to her manager... Anybody got a current address for him? (no, I don't) Maybe if we convince HIM we're all out here pining away for some new music or even a tour with all the OLD music, or SOMETHING from Ms. T, he'd light a fire under somebody's butt... Peter White says Danny is the whip-cracker of the partnership - maybe we should write to DANNY via the Biggin Hill P.O. Box - It's their office P.O. Box. All this is just suggestions... But who knows, maybe something will come of it. TTFN! --Di. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~ "...There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats..." --Albert Schweitzer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~ CAUTION - http://musicats.com - asylum for the terminally BENT, home for wayward musicians, free web art, and a fairly cluttered attic full of oddities (i.e., ME!). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:20:31 +0900 From: "John Joseph Palcher" Subject: Sade Someone just recently mentioned that Sade, too, has had a LONG lapse between her last work, like Basia. This is so true! I'm begging for a new album by Sade just about as much (not as much, but just about! :)). Does anybody out there have any info about Sade? The last thing I can remember about her was a report that she was arrested in Jamaica for drunk driving or being rude to a policeperson or reckless driving. Something like that. Personally, I think "Rachel's Divorce" would be a superb title for the next album and tour! Good idea, Juan! (It was Juan's idea, wasn't it?) But, of course, I hope Rachel's marriage is fine! Mata, dudes. joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:57:14 +0100 (BST) From: Cintron Subject: Re: NEW ALBUM just for Jeff Hi Eric, I too am a new 'poster', although I have been lurking her for a few months also. I was also at Basia TSI concert at the Harborlights venue in Boston. An excellent concert indeed (it was my first time seeing Basia live.) The security must have been very tight that night as I was nearly arrested for taking a few snapshots (at least they didn't confiscate the film - the pictures came out quite nice in the end!) Cheerio, Leslie in Oxford, UK On Tue, 2 Jun 1998 ECONECIA@aol.com wrote: > > Hello, all. I'm fairly new to this site. I've been "checking in" for about two > months now and I've been fairly amused at some of the stuff I've seen here, > but mostly, I've been stricken to have finally found kindred spirit.....PHEW! > Where do I start? First of all, let me say that my name is Eric and I'm a > Basiaholic. Not the obscure collector like some of you out there > unfortunately, but one who has been profoundly affected by her music for many > years. My (estanged) wife and I began listening in 1986 and to move right > along, our ten-year-old's first sung words were "New day...New day...New > day".We were fortunate enough to have seen the band perform twice in Boston- > onthe LWNY and TSI tours. For LWNY, I had to actually lie my way out of my own > sister's birthday party!!! (Great show!)After TSI, at an outdoor venue, we > almost snuck backstage to greet our idol, but were discovered at the last > second. > I don't have any more time right now. I could go on and on > about the place that Basia has been playing in my life, but I will have to > continue another time. > Unfortunately, my marriage did not survive. For a while after our split, I > couldn't even listen to Basia-too painful, too many memories. I am now able to > partake again, feeling the highs and lows and just generally basking in the > glow. > Lookin forward to checking out the other site and > downloading some of the goodies there. By the way, Welcome back, Meg! I, too, > would have missed you. > Also, I would be shocked if many of you don't have anyting by Astrud Gilberto, > one of Basia's many influences. Listening to her "Girl from Ipenima", we are > reminded of Basia's lilting style and wispiness at times, but I believe Basia > rose many levels beyond Astrud. After all, Astrud was a very accidental star. > > Peace to all! > Eric > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:29:57 +0200 From: "Lars-Ove Karlsson" Subject: MacAmp (Was: wow meg you mentioned me) From: Whipple930@aol.com > hi hello and how do you do > > > Im in a very good mood tonight. As i sat here and contemplated the meaning > of blue cheese dressing on buffalo wings, and who thought of it. I read that > MEG is a macionan also. I now have renewed faith that i bought the correct > computer. Meg, you are no witch, you are just passionate about your belifs > and share those passions with all those around. We just you would get off the > fence on most issues(lol). Meg i donot have "MacaAmp." What is it and is > it any good? As far as i knew the only MacAmp I have seen is the McIntosh > system i use at home(except the speakers their from Duntuch). MacAmp is the Macintosh equivalent of WinAmp, which is a program to play MPEG layer III files (usually called MPEG3 or MP3). You'll need it if you've downloaded the Basia tunes mentioned here earlier. If you're like me, and cannot get hold of the albums/singles that Angels Blush, Waters of March etc. are on, this may be the only way to hear them. You can find MacAmp here: http://macamp.lh.net/ /Lars-Ove Sorry 'bout the non-Basia post, but since it helps people listen to Basia Tunes and I've mentioned here name a couple of times, maybe it quualifies anyway. e-mail: love@iar.se - --- Now if, if you insist this is for the best Well then I'll sail this ship alone And if, if you swear that you no longer care Well then I'll sail this ship alone The Beautiful South - I'll Sail This Ship Alone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:18:42 -0500 From: Meg Evans Subject: Inquiring minds ... Hullo. For those who are curious, I downloaded MacAmp right from Anders Hamre's website, with all those lovely Basia MPEGs. (I think we established that option-clicking on the links downloads the songs, and helps you avoid the icky gobbledy-gook that comes up when you simply open the links.) MacAmp works wonderfully, except that even with the volume turned up the two songs I have were a wee bit quiet. Jeff, so many decisions! Ford or Chevy? (VW.) Mac or PC? (A no brainer. With my Mac I can have little Godzillas all over my windows -- WHICH, by the way, Mac invented.) Regular or decaf? 2% or skim? Bulls or Jazz? Nike or Reebok? And how about a matching handbag? I just hope no one will soon have to decide whether or not to take you off life support. Hang in there, my friend. If the end should come, you can have yourself cryogenically frozen until Basia releases her next album. Get well soon! Meg, plotting my next palpitation-provoking subject line - ----------------------------------------- "First keep the peace within yourself, then you can also bring peace to others." --Thomas a Kempis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:36:07 EDT From: Richard216@aol.com Subject: Re: basia-digest V3 #101 Are there any musicians on the list that play Basia?? I play the guitar and absolutely LOVE to play Basia's music. It gives me inspiration. for what I don't know, but I feel inspired when I play and sing her music. Just a thought. someone should start a band specializing in her music. I'm game. Anyone near Cleveland Ohio interested????? Richard, from Ohio of course. HI DI Welcome back from Maui, I am part Hawaiian and obviously LOVE HAWAII. HI MEG !! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 07:47:40 PDT From: "Bruce Anderson" Subject: MacAmp >MacAmp is the Macintosh equivalent of WinAmp, which is a program to >play MPEG layer III files (usually called MPEG3 or MP3). You'll need >it if you've downloaded the Basia tunes mentioned here earlier. If >you're like me, and cannot get hold of the albums/singles that Angels >Blush, Waters of March etc. are on, this may be the only way to hear >them. > >You can find MacAmp here: >http://macamp.lh.net/ A new company, @soft, has taken over development of MacAmp. Here is their website: http://www.kickinit.net/@soft/macamp/ They've really done a number on the interface. Unfortunately they are running a private beta program right now, and all applications have been taken, so there is no further opportunity to obtain the new proggie. The "original" version is still available at the old website. You can find information on Macintosh MPEG software here: http://php.indiana.edu/~kdegraaf/mp3.html Actually, MacAmp and WinAmp, while based on the same code have very little in common. WinAmp is at version 1.9.x, while the Mac version is still at 1.0, beta. This isn't actually very distressing to me, since most of the "advanced" features WinAmp offers go unused by me. MacAmp is stable and fast and it plays MP3 files. What more do you actually need? ^_^ Ja ne, Bruce ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 08:09:42 PDT From: "Bruce Anderson" Subject: Re: Inquiring minds ... >Hullo. For those who are curious, I downloaded MacAmp right from Anders >Hamre's website, with all those lovely Basia MPEGs. (I think we >established that option-clicking on the links downloads the songs, and >helps you avoid the icky gobbledy-gook that comes up when you simply open >the links.) Yeah. Weirdness abounds on the web... I think that you can set a MIME-type in Navigator/Exploder, but I wouldn't have the foggiest idea which one. *sigh* Anyone else know what I'm talking about? MacAmp works wonderfully, except that even with the volume >turned up the two songs I have were a wee bit quiet. I've had that problem before, too. In fact, I have a Moxy Fruvous MP3 which starts out quiet, and then about 1/2 way through it comes up to "normal" volume, and my eardrums get a shock. ^_^ >Jeff, so many decisions! Ford or Chevy? (VW.) Mac or PC? (A no brainer. >With my Mac I can have little Godzillas all over my windows -- WHICH, by >the way, Mac invented.) Whoa, let's hold that thought... The Macintosh POPULARISED a windowing system, but Jobs et al did not actually invent the idea. It had been used before, by a system called "Smalltalk" which was in development at Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center). What most people believe is that the Apple Mac crew went to PARC, took lots of notes, and then went back and did the same thing and called it Macintosh. Chigau. The OS was already under development. It's a popular myth, one which most people, inculding Apple die-hards who should know better, believes as truth. You can read more about this at MacKiDo. http://www.mackido.com/Interface/ui_history.html It's pretty interesting reading. ^_^ Regular or decaf? 2% or skim? Bulls or Jazz? Don't drink coffee. Skim. Bulls, please. Thanks. >Nike or Reebok? And how about a matching handbag? Rockport, actually... great walking shoes. I don't need a handbag, what with being a guy and all... ;) I just hope no one will >soon have to decide whether or not to take you off life support. Hang in >there, my friend. If the end should come, you can have yourself >cryogenically frozen until Basia releases her next album. Get well soon! It's beginning to feel that way. Illusion came out in '94. Before that we only had two different versions of the "Brave New Hope" ep to tide us over. I'd say it's time for something new. *sigh* Ah, well... I can manage well enough...I have that new Fruvous live CD to occupy me, and there's always "Locus Solus" to numb my brain... ^_^ >Meg, plotting my next palpitation-provoking subject line "Basia and others killed in train wreck! NOT!" How's that for evil? Bruce ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:25:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: Anders Hamre Subject: Re: Inquiring minds ... > Yeah. Weirdness abounds on the web... I think that you can set a > MIME-type in Navigator/Exploder, but I wouldn't have the foggiest idea > which one. *sigh* Anyone else know what I'm talking about? You don't really need to set a MIME-type though. An MP3 file is just a pure data stream. Netscape or other browsers might not recognize it and display it as text, but the data is still intact. Usually you can use a pop-up menu or hold SHIFT when you click to download the MP3, but you don't need to do this. Just click it, let your browser download the entire thing (even as text). When it's done, simply select "Save as..." from the menu. It'll work just fine. > I've had that problem before, too. In fact, I have a Moxy Fruvous MP3 > which starts out quiet, and then about 1/2 way through it comes up to > "normal" volume, and my eardrums get a shock. ^_^ MP3 files do not change the amplitude of a song even if compressed quite severely. If anyone is experiencing quiet or LOUD songs, this is due to the relative mastering level that was used on the original CD. MP3 files are created from data dumped directly from CD, without any alteration in the volume levels (some people like to maximize the levels). Sorry for the non-Basia topic...:-) Anders ahamre@mail.hf.uio.no ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:46:18 -0500 From: Meg Evans Subject: Let The Games Begin Bruce says: >It's a popular myth, one which most people, inculding Apple die-hards who >should >know better, believes as truth. Ahem, excuse me. Have I just been told off here? Okay, okay, I'll GO to the mackido website and readallaboutit. All I know is when I started fiddling around with people's PCs here at work (get that -- I, the Mac person, was troubleshooting THEIR machines. What's the message here?) I figured out Windows 95 and I said, "THIS is what that Rolling Stones hoopla was all about? This is Mac OS dressed in a sky-and-clouds motif." I will COMPLETELY concede, though, that it is MOSTLY a matter of preference and what one is accustomed to, and partly that the poor PC people simply don't know better. (Oops! Just kiddin'.) I know NO ONE who owns a PC who LOVES their machine. We Mac owners, however, are a strange breed in that we practically consider our Little Lovelies to be members of the family. You thought I was kidding when I said "snuggle up" to my Mac? (And it's even easier with a laptop.) Meg - ----------------------------------------- "First keep the peace within yourself, then you can also bring peace to others." --Thomas a Kempis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:57:08 -0700 From: "Huh?" Subject: Re: Let The Games Begin > "THIS is what that Rolling Stones hoopla > was all about? This is Mac OS dressed in a sky-and-clouds motif." Not to be picky, but it's actually the Xerox PARC interface that Apple ripped off (something that Jobs freely admits) which Gates then ripped off. I guess the difference is that if you admit you plagiarized something, it's ok. > I will > COMPLETELY concede, though, that it is MOSTLY a matter of preference and > what one is accustomed to, and partly that the poor PC people simply don't > know better. Well, most of the world seems to get the job done with Windows, warts and all. If only Apple hadn't been such an astoundingly poorly run company, we wouldn't have to have this debate. > (Oops! Just kiddin'.) I know NO ONE who owns a PC who > LOVES their machine. That tends to happen with people pushed into a minority corner; they fiercely identify with whatever, even anthropomorphize it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:08:07 EDT From: Somegirl99@aol.com Subject: Re: Inquiring minds ... Meg says: > If the end should come, you can have yourself cryogenically frozen until Basia > releases her next album. Jeff... just make sure you freeze your whole body. If you do just your head and have it re-attached so a body somewhere down the line... there's no telling if that body can dance. Would be a bummer if you had to sit in your seat while you were just itching to get up and dance to some of her tunes. Jacki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 20:32:02 -0400 From: Jeff Hamilton Subject: Re: Inquiring minds ... At 08:09 AM 6/3/98 PDT, Bruce wrote: >"Basia and others killed in train wreck! NOT!" >How's that for evil? That IS evil. Sadly, it would probably be the only way "The Sweetest Illusion" would sell a few more copies. Notwithstanding Frank Sinatra (who couldn't possibly get any more popular), death in any given week always results in bullets in the following week's Billboard charts. Jeff Hamilton - the capitalist http://www.mindspring.com/~jeffhamilton/ to join the 461 (network), send a message to four.six.one@mindspring.com and hope for the best ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 20:27:35 -0400 From: Jeff Hamilton Subject: Re: Inquiring minds ... At 07:08 PM 6/3/98 EDT, Jacki wrote: >Jeff... just make sure you freeze your whole body. If you do just your head >and have it re-attached so a body somewhere down the line... there's no >telling if that body can dance. Would be a bummer if you had to sit in your >seat while you were just itching to get up and dance to some of her tunes. That's one of my problems right now (not being able to dance). Hopefully they'll reattach my head to a body that CAN dance... Jeff Hamilton - the capitalist http://www.mindspring.com/~jeffhamilton/ to join the 461 (network), send a message to four.six.one@mindspring.com and hope for the best ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 00:58:43 -0500 From: "monsta0@flash.net" Subject: RE: Major Basia News! On Tuesday, June 02, 1998 21:24, Jeff Hamilton[SMTP:jeffhamilton@mindspring.com] wrote: > > At 12:22 PM 6/2/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Just kidding, Jeff (Hamilton). I couldn't resist! > > you guys think i'm kidding, don't you > > Jeff Hamilton > in an iron lung I'm with you, Jeff, 100%. In fact, the paramedics are loading me into the ambulance as I type. - -Brian* (Hoping his insurance covers this type of thing.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 00:07:15 EDT From: Whipple930@aol.com Subject: SPICY TALK FOR A BUNCH OF BASIA LOVERS WHOA!!!!!!!!!! I did not want to start WWIII. Macintosh is not the anti-christ. Neither are IBM and their clones. I was the largest seller of pc's (up till the first 286 machines) in the southern US. I am a person who not only knows the facts on who (Xerox) really came up with the icon based system but I briefly met the gentleman (several years ago) that wrote the code. But to this day I dont give a crap; I just like the reliability of the Apple (Macintosh and other line) equipment over every other system I have ever used. Its just a benefit that smart and lovely people like Meg on the other side of a Mac monitor :) I think all of your responses to my ? About MacAmp I am going to go get it tonight . AND I STILL HAVE NO IDEA WEATHER MATT B. WANTS ANY CD-R'S . DOSE HE STILL READ THIS HELLO MATT I AM SENDING YOU A PSYCHIC IMAGE OF A CD- R.................CD-R.............CD-R.........CD-R.......CD-R One last thing: dose anyone know who thought of blue cheese on buffalo wings?Is there a buffalo wing web site I can find these answers to? CLOSING WITH A PRAYER Basia I know you are reading this please do something by September so my wife can get it for me on my B-Day REMEMBER: Life is a illusion and we are mere fantiseas floating in this nightmare of forgoton lore Hi Meg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:37:10 -0500 From: "monsta0@flash.net" Subject: Windows sucks, Mac sucks. Cant' we all get along? Sorry to be a wet blanket, but until someone finds out which system Basia and Danny use, can we call a truce in this Win vs. Mac debate? It's getting pretty far off-topic. Thanks, - -Brian* ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V3 #102 ***************************