From: owner-basia-digest To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V1 #231 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Thursday, 19 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 231 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [Again!] Lyrics, we got lyrics... Copyright & Xfer; Limmericks Re: Trade in your Atlas. Re: Copyright & Xfer Re: The Poetry Coroner Re: Trade in you Atlas. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rpjr0571 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 96 03:57:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Again!] Lyrics, we got lyrics... >Hi again everybody-- greetings from the slightly soggy city of Portland. >Once again, it >seems, I'm doomed to be the scourge of music i'm from Portland too. Portland, Texas robert perez, jr. ******************************** Robert Perez, Jr. please attach one of these to the address before you send, MY EMAIL SERVER SUCKS AND WON'T SEND IF YOU JUST PUT REPLY!!!!!! rpjr0571@castle.cdsnet.com rpjr7120@aol.com ******************************** "What the hell!" Jack Burton Big Trouble in Little China ------------------------------ From: Larry Lipman Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:53:39 -0500 Subject: Copyright & Xfer; Limmericks I believe our lovely Ms. Fisili is correct. My understanding of the copyright law is that you may make unlimited copies/dubs/xfers of material you own for your own personal use (i.e. compilation cassettes, backups, etc). But, it would be a violation of copyright law to go to your local Kinko's and make 30 copies of your favorite news article and send it to all your friends. You may run into similar problems at a pro xfer house. It's a judgement call. If the videotape were yours, recorded overseas, and you simply wanted a xfer for your use in US machines, I don't think you'd have a problem. [CMA Disclaimer: I am not a copyright attorney and not competent to give legal advice. (Actually, some folks claim I'm not competent to give any advice!)] But...the xfer house will be wary (and rightfully so) that the video is NOT yours, was NOT recorded by you overseas, that you do NOT simply want to play it solely on your US deck, and that instead YOU WANT TO MAKE 30 COPIES AND MAIL IT ALL AROUND THE GLOBE TO YOUR BASIA FRIENDS... (Is that what you mean Lassie? Is it? Good girl!) [Unpleasant Mini-Lecture Begins] Tread carefully my friends. We live in a very litigatious society. Cyberlaw is in its infancy and attorneys are constantly trolling, looking for ways to define and make case law. Probably everyone on this list already owns the complete commercially-released Basia collection. Further, the commercial market for the sort of Basia trivia being collected (video interviews, sound bites, etc) is virtually non-existant. Finally, this is a very small group - didn't someone say about 150 subscribers? So, despite the technicalities of the law, I believe your use does little to dilute commercial income. Nevertheless, those media elements are owned by someone. I think we have an obligation to respect that. I was going to bring all this up eventually, but was kinda waiting for the right moment as it is SUCH a downer. As absurd as it sounds, it would be prudent to pursue a limited release. [Returning to more pleasant matters] Phil sed: To Basia one day Dee said, pensively, To keep your fan base you must act sensibly: Their patience would be rewarded If a new album you recorded.' She laughed, `Let them wait 'til the end of the century! Larry replies: The idea of speaking 'bout Basia in rhymes Is quite appealing for these times. I vote yes with this verse Even though it is terse Now let's hear everyone else's two cents worth! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Larry Lipman - ------------------------------------------------------------ The University of Memphis Commercial Music Program Campus Box 526546 232 CFA Building Memphis, TN 38152-6546 (901) 678=2559 [min. 6 rings to voice mail] FAX: (901) 678=5118 Internet: Llipman@admin1.memphis.edu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ From: dleuty@Onramp.NET (Don Leuty) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 96 13:56:09 GMT Subject: Re: Trade in your Atlas. > > On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, Don Leuty wrote: > > > > > > Don, > > > > > > Why don't you just TELL us where YOU are CALLING from? I have my handy=20 > > > dis-bound 1975 NGS atlas on my lap at this moment, making an attempt to=20 > > > hook your coordinates up. All I see is western Chinese barreness at where= > > > =20 > > > these lines connect. The Chinese might say you are in Tibet, or damned=20 > > > close by. My map shows NO towns anywhere near. > > > > > > Tell us: what radio stations have Basia on their playlists out by you? > > > > > > Phil > > > (who has been known to dabble in Mongolian barbecue spontaneously) > > > > > > > That's a mite east of my observatory. The coordinates point to the location of the > Lone Star > > Observatory in SE Oklahoma. That's 96 degrees 8 minutes West of the Prime Meridian. > > > > Bullseye on the latitude, though. Get a new atlas before you use that one to go out > and find > > pizza. ;-) > > > > Do svidania, poka. > > > You Tibetans sure have a strange sense of humor. Sure, you know I know > there's no such place in Tibet called Oklahoma, (I checked!). Ok. I'll play > along. > Pizza, RIGHT! ("Gimme a large loaded. HOLD THE FERMENTED YAK BUTTER!") > > Phil > (sorry for the delay - I was having my atlas defragged) > > > Naw. I prefer mine with armadillo and jalepeno peppers washed down by generous portions of cervesa. Sometimes, litte rattlesnake for variety. - ---- Don Leuty dleuty@onramp.net dleuty@aol.com 96º8'W 34º11'N ------------------------------ From: combee@techwood.org (Ben Combee) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:10:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Copyright & Xfer Hi, Larry. Yes, I'm acutely aware of the copyright issue. I've not yet received a cease and desist letter from Sony or Dee, but I do know that the more "commercial" material we use, the larger our exposure is. As for converting the PAL to NTSC... I'm sure I can get someone here in Austin to do this, although I don't know who right now. Let me see if I can find a converter, and if so, then I'll just request a PAL dub and do the conversion here. As for distribution of the Basia video collection... it will be by a small tape tree... I'll do some dubs, and several other list members have also volunteered. This can't be as deep as trees I've seen on other lists because video doesn't do well over many generations, but we'll get it worked out. - -- Benjamin L. Combee (combee@techwood.org) that public-access-TV-making, video-game-collecting, cryptography-pushing, World-Wide-Web-explaining, fem-music-loving, bad-pun-creating guy in Austin ------------------------------ From: BobRumsby Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:52:06 +0000 Subject: Re: The Poetry Coroner At 11:10 PM 9/17/96 -0400, you wrote: > > >On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Larry Lipman wrote: > >>There once was a fellow named Roach >> > >Hey! C'mon everyone! Let's do some verse! Basia-relative stuff. Limericks >are easy, hence: > >To Basia one day Dee said, pensively, >`To keep your fan base you must act sensibly: > Their patience would be rewarded > If a new album you recorded.' >She laughed, `Let them wait 'til the end of the century!' > > > >Phil >(who is amazed he could come up with a clean one!) > Phil I think that you have got together with Al Stewart via PW via DFF to come up with that one as it sound just like from AS album *Last Day of the Century* :):) btw DFF very quiet last few days. She must be planning something very BIG for PW birthday on Friday. bfn Bob R Paterson NJ May the swartz be with you ------------------------------ From: BobRumsby Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:56:40 +0000 Subject: Re: Trade in you Atlas. At 12:08 AM 9/18/96 -0400, you wrote: > > >On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, Don Leuty wrote: >> > >> > Don, >> > >> > Why don't you just TELL us where YOU are CALLING from? I have my handy=20 >> > dis-bound 1975 NGS atlas on my lap at this moment, making an attempt to=20 >> > hook your coordinates up. All I see is western Chinese barreness at where= >> > =20 >> > these lines connect. The Chinese might say you are in Tibet, or damned=20 >> > close by. My map shows NO towns anywhere near. >> > >> > Tell us: what radio stations have Basia on their playlists out by you? >> > >> > Phil >> > (who has been known to dabble in Mongolian barbecue spontaneously) >> > >> >> That's a mite east of my observatory. The coordinates point to the location of the Lone Star >> Observatory in SE Oklahoma. That's 96 degrees 8 minutes West of the Prime Meridian. >> >> Bullseye on the latitude, though. Get a new atlas before you use that one to go out and find >> pizza. ;-) >> >> Do svidania, poka. > > >You Tibetans sure have a strange sense of humor. Sure, you know I know >there's no such place in Tibet called Oklahoma, (I checked!). Ok. I'll play >along. >Pizza, RIGHT! ("Gimme a large loaded. HOLD THE FERMENTED YAK BUTTER!") > >Phil >(sorry for the delay - I was having my atlas defragged) > Thats the trouble with atlases today. They go out of date as they are being printed what with all these new *former* communist breaking up. Speaking of former communist states. I wonder how our Brazilian NUT is finding life behind the old Iron Curtain. Been scanning the newserves and neither reports of new outbreaks of trouble or big heavy nasty clouds sighted. bfn Bob R Paterson NJ May the swartz be with you ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V1 #231 ***************************