From: owner-basia-digest To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V1 #236 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Tuesday, 24 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 236 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Future Basia Albums Re: Future Basia Albums Re: Slovene war dog Been on vacation in France, sorry.. Re: Thanks for the lyrics Re: [Again!] Lyrics, we got lyrics... Re: Slovene war dog ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Drew Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:54:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Future Basia Albums >>I heard Basia while shopping again. This time it was PROMISES. seems >>like ther're always from TIME AND TIDE. Why not any of the others? > >Because: >A) Time and Tide was her biggest commercial success >B) LWNY wasn't, and >C) The Sweetest Illusion was a wasteland when it came to singles. I think we all agree that Time and Tide was the best album (certainly sales-wise). The propmo for LWNY was good but it didn't do great. The SI stuff was promoted so/so. I am in a market where no Basia is played so I can't comment on the radio aspect BUT when I was in my home state of California, Basia did get serious airplay. I did hear her in Chicago (where she is huge) but there is only one "jazz" station that plays her there. Jeff is correct that the wait between albums is a MAJOR bumbling point. Basia needs to get music out there at a much faster rate that the recent past. Also a tour would be nice as well. The next album is a make or break album because if it fails, Sony will drop her (unless she has a long term deal- anyone know this?). Of course the standard greatest hits package will spell the end in the USA for Basia if it is the next album out or the one out shortly afetr the "new" album she is working on. While G-hits help bands overseas, in the USA, it usually is the end (unless you are a Tom Petty or someoen like that with just one new song for Christmas). The future is going to be interesting. We all laughed when Jeff said Basia's next album will be in 1997. Now that may be wrong.....1998.....anyone...... see ya..... KEN (kdrew@nd.edu) - ----------------------------------------------------------- *Webb Wilder : http://www.nd.edu/~kdrew/ * *The Beat Farmers : WWW page at: * *http://www.ucsd.edu/sdam/artists/bf/ * *Check them out today * - ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "J.S. Lohr" Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:04:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Future Basia Albums On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Ken Drew wrote: > Jeff is correct that the wait between albums is a MAJOR bumbling point. Basia > needs to get music out there at a much faster rate that the recent past. > Also a > tour would be nice as well. The next album is a make or break album because > if it fails, Sony will drop her (unless she has a long term deal- anyone > know this?). But by then it won't matter. THE NEXT ALBUM WILL BE THE LAST. Mark my words... quote me... bet me... Sony needed to drop her after TSI. Dropping her after the '98 album would be a moot point because she'd probably quit recording anyway. Sure, I don't know this for a fact but... my money's on Basia '98 being the Final Cut. Plus, I'll do ya one better: if they go about doing this album the same way they've done all the others, IT WILL FAIL. Unless she has some sort of breakthough mainstream single the album ISN'T going to sell. It could be her best album in our eyes but what the hell does that mean? Sony STILL isn't going to do anything to promote it other than doing the same half- hearted routine which they've stuck to in the past. Dropping her after TSI would've made her and Danny have to hunt down another label (if they were willing to do another album); a label that didn't have nearly as much money nor nearly as much patience as Sony as had. She needs someone to sit down and say, "Look, get this done and get it done NOW. We're not going to pay for you to do nothing for two years so you have time to run off to the south of France and hug olive trees." And if she doesn't want to do it anymore then she shouldn't do it. > Of course the standard greatest hits package will spell the end in the USA > for Basia if it is the next album out or the one out shortly afetr the > "new" album she > is working on. While G-hits help bands overseas, in the USA, it usually is > the end > (unless you are a Tom Petty or someoen like that with just one new song for > Christmas). If I wasn't hearing these little leaks on the list about the production of the next album I would've said that BOB was this fabled "Greatest Hits," thus marking her departure. Actually, now that I think about it, what's to stop her from just waking up one day and saying, "to hell with it, I don't want to do this anymore." It doesn't sound like they're too far along on the next album - what's to stop her from scrapping the entire project? 1998 is still a long way off and alot of things can happen, both good and bad, along the way. > The future is going to be interesting. We all laughed when Jeff said > Basia's next album > will be in 1997. Now that may be wrong.....1998.....anyone...... Hey, Ken - get with the program! I've ALWAYS said its going to be 1998. July, 1998 to be more exact (which marks the same amount of time elapsed between the release of LWNY and the release of TSI (4 years, 3 months)) which, if she keeps within the same pattern, should be the relative release date of Basia '98. And I'm sure any interviews we see in '98 will be filled with the typical routine of "Well, it took so long to make the album because there were SO many things to do in the meantime..." blah blah blah blah. Yeah, right, so many things to do.... and I've got Peter Angelos, owner of the Baltimore Orioles, on the phone offering me a one year, trillion-dollar contract to sit on the bench next season. Why can't she be more like Gloria Estefan? (PC Disclaimer: I'm not that big of a Gloria fan, but she sure is a lot kinder to the industry than Basia could ever hope to be). Toodles! JSL. ------------------------------ From: akb02@rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Dirk Pilat) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:04:39 +0200 Subject: Re: Slovene war dog At 02:25 Uhr 14.09.1996, Jacki wrote: >That was my favorite German word! But I thought it was spelled tscheusse. >(???) Dirk? What's the right way to spell that word? > >Jacki TSCHUESS (normally the german U with the dots over it replaces the UE) Dirk Dirk Pilat, Medical Student 2 months before graduation University of Cologne, FRG Fax: ++ 492151 754796 | http://www.rrz.uni-koeln.de/~akb02 Member of the Internet Dermatology Society | Maintainer of the Matt Bianco Mailinglist ------------------------------ From: akb02@rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Dirk Pilat) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:04:32 +0200 Subject: Been on vacation in France, sorry.. Yo! I was on vacation for week, so sorry for replying so late: Dennis asked about Acid Jazz: > Since we are so far off base already, one more won't hurt. > > So I got a couple of CD's recently that are considered to be "Acid >Jazz". I've been trying to figure out the distinction between that and >the light jazz stuff that I've been listening to for lo these many >years. It all sounds similar to me. Can anyone explain what I'm >missing? > > BTW, the CD's are Incognito's "100 Degrees And Rising" and "Moving >In The Right Direction" by Count Basic. > > Any fans - any thoughts? Well, 100 and rising is actually no acid jazz album, as they trotted far to much away from their acid jazz roots on "tribes, vibes and scribes" but it's still a good album. If you want to hear the core of acid jazz, buy "get organized" by the james taylor quartet, or any other record by them or galliano or blacknuss. Acid jazz, coming from London from the late eighties, is nothing else but groovy "real" acoustic drums and percussion, a funky bass, "real" jazzy solos on "real" instruments with sometimes soul -like vocals. I'd be glad to tape a compilation.... Dirk Dirk Pilat, Medical Student 2 months before graduation University of Cologne, FRG Fax: ++ 492151 754796 | http://www.rrz.uni-koeln.de/~akb02 Member of the Internet Dermatology Society | Maintainer of the Matt Bianco Mailinglist ------------------------------ From: akb02@rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Dirk Pilat) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:04:45 +0200 Subject: Re: Thanks for the lyrics At 23:00 Uhr 16.09.1996, J.S. Lohr wrote: >> > Make babies, apparently. >> With WHO??? I am sooo nosey... > >That would be Kevin Robinson, stealth trumpet player > >Toodles! > >JSL. Yup. He was missing on the Incognito Cologne Concert, so he was propably reproducing right the minute I stared at the Incognito - Stage.... Dirk Dirk Pilat, Medical Student 2 months before graduation University of Cologne, FRG Fax: ++ 492151 754796 | http://www.rrz.uni-koeln.de/~akb02 Member of the Internet Dermatology Society | Maintainer of the Matt Bianco Mailinglist ------------------------------ From: akb02@rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Dirk Pilat) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:04:48 +0200 Subject: Re: [Again!] Lyrics, we got lyrics... At 21:50 Uhr 17.09.1996, soundman wrote: >. I didn't realize that Ben was looking for the lyrics >for the "Whose Side Are You On?" CD... but believe it or not, I found >'em... so here >goes: Why didn't you ask me??? Dirk Dirk Pilat, Medical Student 2 months before graduation University of Cologne, FRG Fax: ++ 492151 754796 | http://www.rrz.uni-koeln.de/~akb02 Member of the Internet Dermatology Society | Maintainer of the Matt Bianco Mailinglist ------------------------------ From: akb02@rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Dirk Pilat) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:04:36 +0200 Subject: Re: Slovene war dog At 01:10 Uhr 13.09.1996, Jacki wrote: >Don't wait for your next flight at the terminals, go for a walk. Once you >pass thru customs, go thru the door and look across the way... is that a SEX >SHOP?!?!? Right there in the middle of the airport. It's been awhile >since I've been in that airport, but if that sex shop's still there, I'm >sure you can pass some time looking at all the weird contraptions they've >got. I won't make any further comments, this isn't that kinda list. ;-) It's still there.... Dirk Dirk Pilat, Medical Student 2 months before graduation University of Cologne, FRG Fax: ++ 492151 754796 | http://www.rrz.uni-koeln.de/~akb02 Member of the Internet Dermatology Society | Maintainer of the Matt Bianco Mailinglist ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V1 #236 ***************************