From: owner-basia-digest To: basia-digest@smoe.org Subject: basia-digest V1 #143 Reply-To: basia@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-basia-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "basia-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. basia-digest Friday, 14 June 1996 Volume 01 : Number 143 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Different views Re: Different views Re: Different views Re: Different views Re: Different views C&H and Basia's age Re: Different views Re: Misccellaneous Subject: Re: Different views ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: majewicz@buffnet1.buffnet.net Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:55:32 +0000 Subject: Different views Hi everyone, Browsing the web tonight, I ran across a site called CD Universe - you know, the usual "We've got it all, order through us" kind of place - and I did a search on (can you guess?) Basia. In addition to the list of available CD's (no, WOM wasn't among them), they had artist information and very brief reviews of the releases. I lifted what they had and they are reprinted below. Perhaps some of you have seen the site. This was the first time I had. Maybe you saw the reviews - I hadn't. Interesting to see an outsider's viewpoint... Incidentally, they called LWNY the "artist's best". >From search of "Basia" on CD Universe web site: Time and Tide Album Review: This 1987 mix of pop-soul has Brazilian overtones on "Astrud," a tribute to {Astrud Gilberto}. ~ Bil Carpenter London, Warsaw, New York Album Review: The second release (1989) by this Polish singer/songwriter, creator of beautiful many-tracked harmonies, conveys a big airy sound. Styles range widely, from the primary theme song "Copernicus," with a rhythmic, Brazilian sound, to the jazzy and playful "You're Mine." Love is a strong theme -- ending, beginning, changing. ~ Ladyslipper Brave New Hope Album Review: Brave New Hope is an EP that emphasizes Basia's club leanings, featuring remixes of "Cruising for Bruising" and "Until You Come Back to Me." It's an enjoyable listen, though it gives a portrait of the singer that isn't entirely accurate. Basia always wanted to more sophisticated and not be another dance-pop diva. Nevertheless, she is quite good at being a diva, as Brave New Hope proves. For fans, the EP is a nice diversion. ~ Stephen Thomas Erlewine The Sweetest Illusion Album Review: Taking four years between albums (with the intercession of the 1991 EP Brave New Hope), {Basia} returned in 1994 to discover that the appeal of her English-as-a-second-language cocktail jazz style had waned; after two straight platinum sellers, this one didn't even go gold. The wonder may be that she got as far as she did with an approach to music that confused awkwardness with sophistication. ~ William Ruhlmann Information supplied by All Music Guide Bio: Alternate Name: Basia Trzetrzelewska Born: September 30, 1959 Birth Place: Jaworzno, Poland Genre: =A0=A0Rock Style: =A0=A0House Music Adult Contemporary PopClub/Dance Instrument: Vocals AMG Biography: Vocalist {Basia Trzetrzelewska} spent a couple of years in the pop band {Matt Bianco,} an offshoot of {Blue Rondo A La Turk,} before she launched a solo career in 1987. With the musical assistance of {Matt Bianco's Danny White,} {Basia} developed a subtle cocktail- jazz-pop which was first showcased on her 1987 debut album, Time and Tide. Supported by the singles "New Day for You" and "Time and Tide," the record became a hit in Europe and America, where the album went platinum. Her second record, 1990's London Warsaw New York, was just as successful, but her third album, 1994's Sweetest Illusion, failed to find an audience. ~ Stephen Thomas Erlewine Cheers, Dennis - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis J. Majewicz Empire Sports Network majewicz@buffnet.net "On the road to a non-linear, tapeless, DIGITAL tomorrow!" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "J.S. Lohr" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Different views On Thu, 13 Jun 1996 majewicz@buffnet1.buffnet.net wrote: > >From search of "Basia" on CD Universe web site: > > Time and Tide > > Album Review: > > This 1987 mix of pop-soul has Brazilian overtones on "Astrud," a > tribute to {Astrud Gilberto}. ~ Bil Carpenter > > London, Warsaw, New York > > Album Review: > > The second release (1989) by this Polish singer/songwriter, creator of > beautiful many-tracked harmonies, conveys a big airy sound. Styles > range widely, from the primary theme song "Copernicus," with a > rhythmic, Brazilian sound, to the jazzy and playful "You're Mine." > Love is a strong theme -- ending, beginning, changing. ~ Ladyslipper > > Brave New Hope > > Album Review: > > Brave New Hope is an EP that emphasizes Basia's club leanings, > featuring remixes of "Cruising for Bruising" and "Until You Come Back > to Me." It's an enjoyable listen, though it gives a portrait of the > singer that isn't entirely accurate. Basia always wanted to more > sophisticated and not be another dance-pop diva. Nevertheless, she is > quite good at being a diva, as Brave New Hope proves. For fans, the EP > is a nice diversion. ~ Stephen Thomas Erlewine I've read these before...I'm pretty sure that EVERYTHING is out of the All Music Guide - which, in my opinion, is crap. An "All Music Guide" should be objective (in my opinion) and not full of some second-rate critic's opinions. > The Sweetest Illusion > > Album Review: > > Taking four years between albums (with the intercession of the 1991 EP > Brave New Hope), {Basia} returned in 1994 to discover that the appeal > of her English-as-a-second-language cocktail jazz style had waned; > after two straight platinum sellers, this one didn't even go gold. The > wonder may be that she got as far as she did with an approach to music > that confused awkwardness with sophistication. ~ William Ruhlmann Ahh, yes...I remember this one well. And he's quite wrong - TSI did eventually go gold. I don't know how long its taken but it has definitely been certified gold. I wouldn't even let this guy write for Agitprop (and we'll let ANYONE write for Agitprop). But the fact that a LOT of people didn't like TSI has always bothered me because I could never understand why - perhaps they couldn't deal with TSI's maturity... they wanted TIME AND TIDE, Part III and they didn't get it. There, that ought to start a firestorm of replies. ;) Toodles! ********************************* R O A C H ********************************* * The Roach Motel @ http://zeus.towson.edu/~jlohr1 -- Bugs are people, too * * He loves Yugoslavians, Boba Fett, Chunky Chicken, and Yummy British Cows * ***************************************************************************** ************* "Live every day as if it were your last `cause ************* ************* sooner or later, you'll be right." - Hal Roach ************* ********************************* R U L E S ********************************* ------------------------------ From: "Jeff @ Rust Systems" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Different views Interesting how not too many share my INTENSE LOVE for my TSI compact disc (no funny remarks, now!). It's one of ten favorite albums ever. Not because it's Basia, but because all the songs are just beautiful; I'd like 'em if they were sung by just about anyone. >> Time and Tide >> >> Album Review: >> >> This 1987 mix of pop-soul has Brazilian overtones on "Astrud," a >> tribute to {Astrud Gilberto}. ~ Bil Carpenter (the above) This is an entire album review? Pathetic! Jeff @ Rust Systems 770-621-5777 "A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." - Calvin (of "Calvin & Hobbes", by Bill Watterson) pyftn ------------------------------ From: "J.S. Lohr" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:29:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Different views On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Jeff @ Rust Systems wrote: > Interesting how not too many share my INTENSE LOVE for my TSI compact disc > (no funny remarks, now!). It's one of ten favorite albums ever. Not because > it's Basia, but because all the songs are just beautiful; I'd like 'em if > they were sung by just about anyone. OH, I totally agree - its a great album. Its just that there are a lot of people out there who, dare I say, "despise" it. Toodles! ********************************* R O A C H ********************************* * The Roach Motel @ http://zeus.towson.edu/~jlohr1 -- Bugs are people, too * * He loves Yugoslavians, Boba Fett, Chunky Chicken, and Yummy British Cows * ***************************************************************************** ************* "Live every day as if it were your last `cause ************* ************* sooner or later, you'll be right." - Hal Roach ************* ********************************* R U L E S ********************************* ------------------------------ From: jacki@magicnet.net (Jacki) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:19:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Different views >"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a >battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." > - Calvin (of "Calvin & Hobbes", by Bill Watterson) Nice quote... mind if I steal it (too)? ------------------------------ From: "Jeff @ Rust Systems" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 19:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: C&H and Basia's age At 06:19 PM 6/13/96 -0400, Jacki wrote: > >Nice quote... mind if I steal it (too)? > Of course I don't mind (like I could prevent you from doing so). If you are a big fan of C&H (I'm a HUGE fan), you probably have all the anthologies and I guarantee you - there's an excellent quote on at least every third page. (On topic) I was very surprised to learn that Basia is as old as she is. Is it just me or doesn't she look 25? Jeff @ Rust Systems 770-621-5777 "A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." - Calvin (of "Calvin & Hobbes", by Bill Watterson) pyftn ------------------------------ From: Philip B Hall Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Different views On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, J.S. Lohr wrote: > Ahh, yes...I remember this one well. And he's quite wrong - TSI did > eventually go gold. I don't know how long its taken but it has definitely > been certified gold. I wouldn't even let this guy write for Agitprop (and > we'll let ANYONE write for Agitprop). Jeff, Please, tell me (us) where the number-givers are. How is it that NOBODY bought the damn thing, yet it went gold (5000,000 is it?) Wait, PLATUNIM is 500,000, or 50,000,000, something like that ther. Who posts the figures, like. And, if you must know, I have driven to every Walmart within 24 miles and have YET to find a $7.00 T&T gold version. Its a $23.00 item every where I see it. And seven bucks is all i brought, so I still don't own it. Phil (still reeling after learning MattB's leanings) ------------------------------ From: Philip B Hall Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 22:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Misccellaneous On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Diane F. Fisli wrote: > > > (Phil)>See, the original posting had it _Spike Jones_, which is different. I am > >sure I am the only one here who recalls him at all. > > Not true. Somewhere in my collection of weird records I have a 78 (before > my time, really, it was my PARENT's record) of Spike Jones doing "Der > Fuhrer's Face" - a trite but funny slam on the Nazis and their salute to > Adolf Hitler... Heil! Heil! Right (you are) in Der Fuhrer's Face That was the one that made him famous. It was included in a WWII Hollywood propaganda film with Jack Oakey or someone like that. My personal memories of his TV show get mixed up with Miss Francis (Ding Dong School), Dave Garroway and J. Fred Muggs on the Today Show, and Queen for a Day. I was (ahem) too young to discriminate. The key was, and this is something to which you refer, how the antenna was oriented. As well as whether parents were around. Others of that era that made me laugh were Steve Allen, Sid Ceaser, Imogene Coca, and Adlai Stevenson. I must confess puberty and Oscar Levant coincided with Jack Paar. Mabey that's what Danny White needs: lose the Chopin thing and glom onto Oscar, whose piano was matched only by his wit. That would make Dan smile. If you are so inclined, find a copy of _The Band Wagon_ with Fred Astaire, Cyd Charisse, Nanette Fabray, and Oscar Levant. It is chock full of the best '50's H'wood musicals had to offer, but especially the lamented Oscar fending off attentions aimed at Nanette, who, as she surged into her lucious 30's, was cast as his wife. > > Wakka-Wakka! > > > And Phil >TSI (I think I'm the only one on the planet who actually didn't > mind it)< > > I liked it too. Jeez, Phil, we must be of the same age/background... > Yeah, well, treatment programs exist for those who find music with sentiment, irony, charm and melody worthwile. Sorry, I can't remember what they are or who you should call.....something like _It Takes A Village To Eradicate An Imbecile_ or something. Phil ------------------------------ From: steven@telerate.com.au (Steven Malikoff) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 96 13:23:11 +1000 Subject: Subject: Re: Different views To: basia%smoe.org@munnari.oz.au Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:23:11 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Philip B Hall" at Jun 13, 96 09:50:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 156 Phil wrote: > (still reeling after learning MattB's leanings) Huh? what do you mean by this, I must have missed something. Steve. steven@telerate.com.au (Postmaster: delivery acknowledged.) ------------------------------ End of basia-digest V1 #143 ***************************