From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V15 #150 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, July 26 2011 Volume 15 : Number 150 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Mojo [Andrew Shearer ] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [Richard Evans ] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [Terence OConnor ] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [Terence OConnor ] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [helen@triffidbait.ca] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [Simon Galloway ] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [Terence OConnor ] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [kwil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [mark@olivetreepl.plus.com] RE: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [Andrew Shearer ] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [Richard Evans ] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [Simon Galloway ] [Fwd: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler] [mark@olivetreepl.plus.com] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [Richard Evans ] Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler [Terence OConnor ] [AVALON] 72-75 What Else Then? [JohnOBrien001@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] 72-75 What Else Then? [Richard Evans ] [AVALON] I Can't Get Started [kwil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] I Can't Get Started [Simon Galloway ] Re: [AVALON] I Can't Get Started [JohnOBrien001@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:54:59 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Mojo A quick scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on Roxy / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a month ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. Andrew www.andrewshearer.com Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:49:57 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler For anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as follows 1. Roxy Music 2. Stranded 3. Avalon 4 For Your Pleasure 5. BF/RM - Platinum Collection 6. Country Life 7. Warm Jets 8. Boys and Girls 9. The Music 1972 to 2008 - Phil Manzanera 10. Manifesto Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque Seems fair to me Richard On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > A quick scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on > Roxy / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a > month ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and > Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. > > > > > Andrew > > > > www.andrewshearer.com > Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:55:07 +0100 (BST) From: Terence OConnor Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler Well this will divide us all!! But I'm going to stand up for ATGB, as a stand alone peice of work it's pure class. As for the choice of the Platinum Collection. PAH!! Terry 'O' From: Richard Evans To: Andrew Shearer Cc: avalon avalon Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 11:49 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler For anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as follows 1. Roxy Music 2. Stranded 3. Avalon 4 For Your Pleasure 5. BF/RM - Platinum Collection 6. Country Life 7. Warm Jets 8. Boys and Girls 9. The Music 1972 to 2008 - Phil Manzanera 10. Manifesto Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque Seems fair to me Richard On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > A quick scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on > Roxy / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a > month ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and > Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. > > > > > Andrew > > > > www.andrewshearer.com > Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:00:23 +0100 (BST) From: Terence OConnor Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler "Early Years in a better comp by far Slightly surprised by FYP only being No 4" I agree ;-) From: Richard Evans To: Terence OConnor Cc: avalon Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 11:57 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler Yep ATGB is in places brilliant - Where or When is IMHO one of the best Ferry tracks ever Early Years in a better comp by far Slightly surprised by FYP only being No 4 On 26 Jul 2011, at 11:55, Terence OConnor wrote: Well this will divide us all!! > >But I'm going to stand up for ATGB, as a stand alone peice of work it's pure class. > >As for the choice of the Platinum Collection. PAH!! > >Terry 'O' > > >From: Richard Evans >To: Andrew Shearer >Cc: avalon avalon >Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 11:49 >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler > >For anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as follows > >1. Roxy Music >2. Stranded >3. Avalon >4 For Your Pleasure >5. BF/RM - Platinum Collection >6. Country Life >7. Warm Jets >8. Boys and Girls >9. The Music 1972 to 2008 - Phil Manzanera >10. Manifesto > >Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque > >Seems fair to me > >Richard > >On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > >> A quick scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on >> Roxy / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a >> month ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and >> Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. >> >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> www.andrewshearer.com >> Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:06:27 +0000 From: helen@triffidbait.ca Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler Siren???? Platinum Collection, but NOT Siren??? Not to mention my total weak spot for Resolving Contradictions. But, no Siren???? "Sent from my highly addictive gizmo" - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Evans Sender: owner-avalon@smoe.org Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:49:57 To: Andrew Shearer Cc: avalon avalon Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler For anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as follows 1. Roxy Music 2. Stranded 3. Avalon 4 For Your Pleasure 5. BF/RM - Platinum Collection 6. Country Life 7. Warm Jets 8. Boys and Girls 9. The Music 1972 to 2008 - Phil Manzanera 10. Manifesto Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque Seems fair to me Richard On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > A quick scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on > Roxy / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a > month ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and > Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. > > > > > Andrew > > > > www.andrewshearer.com > Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:12:28 +0100 From: Simon Galloway Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler Did anyone from round these parts make a contribution? I forgot! Simon On 26 July 2011 11:55, Terence OConnor wrote: > Well this will divide us all!! > > But I'm going to stand up for ATGB, as a > stand alone peice of work it's pure class. > > As for the choice of the Platinum > Collection. PAH!! > > Terry 'O' > > From: Richard Evans > To: > Andrew Shearer > Cc: avalon avalon > Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 11:49 > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler > > For > anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as follows > > 1. > Roxy Music > 2. Stranded > 3. Avalon > 4 For Your Pleasure > 5. BF/RM - Platinum > Collection > 6. Country Life > 7. Warm Jets > 8. Boys and Girls > 9. The Music 1972 to > 2008 - Phil Manzanera > 10. Manifesto > > Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque > > Seems fair > to me > > Richard > > On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > >> A quick > scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on >> Roxy > / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a >> month > ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and >> > Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. >> >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> www.andrewshearer.com >> Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic >> >> >> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To > unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:21:10 +0100 (BST) From: Terence OConnor Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler Was this a public vote poll or was someone we know supplying the info? i remember a few years ago some kind soul asked us to vote on our favourite album/single/solo/group etc: and Ferrys IYM was a popular choice. Terry 'O' From: Simon Galloway To: Avalon Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 12:12 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler Did anyone from round these parts make a contribution? I forgot! Simon On 26 July 2011 11:55, Terence OConnor wrote: > Well this will divide us all!! > > But I'm going to stand up for ATGB, as a > stand alone peice of work it's pure class. > > As for the choice of the Platinum > Collection. PAH!! > > Terry 'O' > > From: Richard Evans > To: > Andrew Shearer > Cc: avalon avalon > Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 11:49 > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler > > For > anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as follows > > 1. > Roxy Music > 2. Stranded > 3. Avalon > 4 For Your Pleasure > 5. BF/RM - Platinum > Collection > 6. Country Life > 7. Warm Jets > 8. Boys and Girls > 9. The Music 1972 to > 2008 - Phil Manzanera > 10. Manifesto > > Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque > > Seems fair > to me > > Richard > > On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > >> A quick > scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on >> Roxy > / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a >> month > ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and >> > Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. >> >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> www.andrewshearer.com >> Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic >> >> >> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To > unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 07:22:29 -0400 (EDT) From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler The Platinum Collection has very nice sleeve notes and is probably the most thorough of the compilations. I still think I prefer Streetlife though. And Viva is great! There's a great interview online somewhere, in which a vinyl copy of Viva is presented to Ferry as the interviewer proudly states that it's the best Roxy album! J - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Evans To: Andrew Shearer CC: avalon avalon Sent: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:52 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler For anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as follows 1. Roxy Music 2. Stranded 3. Avalon 4 For Your Pleasure 5. BF/RM - Platinum Collection 6. Country Life 7. Warm Jets 8. Boys and Girls 9. The Music 1972 to 2008 - Phil Manzanera 10. Manifesto Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque Seems fair to me Richard On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > A quick scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on > Roxy / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a > month ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and > Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. > > > > > Andrew > > > > www.andrewshearer.com > Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic > > > _________________________________________________________________________ __ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon _________________________________________________________________________ __ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:32:57 +0100 From: mark@olivetreepl.plus.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler >Richard- I am shocked that you let Country Life languish at no.6 with no comment! In general- can't believe that Manifesto is rated higher than Siren! But then, I wouldn't have Avalon in there either! Where is Taking Tiger Mountain? What on earth is Boys and Girls doing there!! Mactheaxe For anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as > follows > > 1. Roxy Music > 2. Stranded > 3. Avalon > 4 For Your Pleasure > 5. BF/RM - Platinum Collection > 6. Country Life > 7. Warm Jets > 8. Boys and Girls > 9. The Music 1972 to 2008 - Phil Manzanera > 10. Manifesto > > Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque > > Seems fair to me > > Richard > > On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > >> A quick scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in >> Mojo on >> Roxy / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, >> a >> month ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and >> Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. >> >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> www.andrewshearer.com >> Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:37:29 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler No I didn't get round to it. Also, I've realised from Avalon that even between fans views vary greatly, so I think it's difficult to advise really. I guess the article is aimed at the "Beginners" class and not the "Intermediates". However I'm surprised Bride Stripped Bare or Mamouna didn't get in there. BTW I have Gemini Moon and Wild Cat Days on a mix-tape (okay a mix-MD - I kid you not) playing in the car at the moment - listening to it at the weekend, it occurred to me that those two could have been on a Roxy album (I know Eno et al played on them). Andrew www.andrewshearer.com Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:12:28 +0100 > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler > From: simongmusic@gmail.com > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Did anyone from round these parts make a contribution? > > I forgot! > > Simon > > On 26 July 2011 11:55, Terence OConnor wrote: > > Well this will divide us all!! > > > > But I'm going to stand up for ATGB, as a > > stand alone peice of work it's pure class. > > > > As for the choice of the Platinum > > Collection. PAH!! > > > > Terry 'O' > > > > From: Richard Evans > > To: > > Andrew Shearer > > Cc: avalon avalon > > Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 11:49 > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler > > > > For > > anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as follows > > > > 1. > > Roxy Music > > 2. Stranded > > 3. Avalon > > 4 For Your Pleasure > > 5. BF/RM - Platinum > > Collection > > 6. Country Life > > 7. Warm Jets > > 8. Boys and Girls > > 9. The Music 1972 to > > 2008 - Phil Manzanera > > 10. Manifesto > > > > Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque > > > > Seems fair > > to me > > > > Richard > > > > On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > > > >> A quick > > scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on > >> Roxy > > / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a > >> month > > ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and > >> > > Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Andrew > >> > >> > >> > >> www.andrewshearer.com > >> Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic > >> > >> > >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > >> > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To > > unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:57:07 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler Yep ATGB is in places brilliant - Where or When is IMHO one of the best Ferry tracks ever Early Years in a better comp by far Slightly surprised by FYP only being No 4 On 26 Jul 2011, at 11:55, Terence OConnor wrote: > Well this will divide us all!! > > But I'm going to stand up for ATGB, as a stand alone peice of work it's pure class. > > As for the choice of the Platinum Collection. PAH!! > > Terry 'O' > > From: Richard Evans > To: Andrew Shearer > Cc: avalon avalon > Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 11:49 > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler > > For anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as follows > > 1. Roxy Music > 2. Stranded > 3. Avalon > 4 For Your Pleasure > 5. BF/RM - Platinum Collection > 6. Country Life > 7. Warm Jets > 8. Boys and Girls > 9. The Music 1972 to 2008 - Phil Manzanera > 10. Manifesto > > Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque > > Seems fair to me > > Richard > > On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > > > A quick scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on > > Roxy / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a > > month ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and > > Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. > > > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > www.andrewshearer.com > > Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:33:18 +0100 From: Simon Galloway Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler ATGB is a very charming album, but I can see how, when considered as part of the 40 year body of Roxy/Ferry output, it stands out like a sore thumb as being completely different to everything else in the back catalogue. And even that's not strictly true! But to the casual observer that's probably how it appears. Simon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:34:07 +0100 From: mark@olivetreepl.plus.com Subject: [Fwd: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler] - ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler From: "Terence OConnor" Date: Tue, July 26, 2011 12:40 pm To: "mark@olivetreepl.plus.com" - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Terry- oh yes- and proud of it!! Mactheaxe Mactheaxe Do I hear the cry of a 72-75 purist? Terry 'O' From: "mark@olivetreepl.plus.com" To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 12:32 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler >Richard- I am shocked that you let Country Life languish at no.6 with no comment! In general- can't believe that Manifesto is rated higher than Siren! But then, I wouldn't have Avalon in there either! Where is Taking Tiger Mountain? What on earth is Boys and Girls doing there!! Mactheaxe For anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as > follows > > 1. Roxy Music > 2. Stranded > 3. Avalon > 4 For Your Pleasure > 5. BF/RM - Platinum Collection > 6. Country Life > 7. Warm Jets > 8. Boys and Girls > 9. The Music 1972 to 2008 - Phil Manzanera > 10. Manifesto > > Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque > > Seems fair to me > > Richard > > On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > >> A quick scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in >> Mojo on >> Roxy / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, >> a >> month ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and >> Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. >> >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> www.andrewshearer.com >> Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Mactheaxe Do I hear the cry of a 72-75 purist? Terry 'O' From: "mark@olivetreepl.plus.com" To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 12:32 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler >Richard- I am shocked that you let Country Life languish at no.6 with no comment! In general- can't believe that Manifesto is rated higher than Siren! But then, I wouldn't have Avalon in there either! Where is Taking Tiger Mountain? What on earth is Boys and Girls doing there!! Mactheaxe For anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as > follows > > 1. Roxy Music > 2. Stranded > 3. Avalon > 4 For Your Pleasure > 5. BF/RM - Platinum Collection > 6. Country Life > 7. Warm Jets > 8. Boys and Girls > 9. The Music 1972 to 2008 - Phil Manzanera > 10. Manifesto > > Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque > > Seems fair to me > > Richard > > On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > >> A quick scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in >> Mojo on >> Roxy / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, >> a >> month ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and >> Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. >> >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> www.andrewshearer.com >> Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:38:08 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler I voted for Stranded R On 26 Jul 2011, at 12:12, Simon Galloway wrote: > Did anyone from round these parts make a contribution? > > I forgot! > > Simon > > On 26 July 2011 11:55, Terence OConnor wrote: >> Well this will divide us all!! >> >> But I'm going to stand up for ATGB, as a >> stand alone peice of work it's pure class. >> >> As for the choice of the Platinum >> Collection. PAH!! >> >> Terry 'O' >> >> From: Richard Evans >> To: >> Andrew Shearer >> Cc: avalon avalon >> Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 11:49 >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler >> >> For >> anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as follows >> >> 1. >> Roxy Music >> 2. Stranded >> 3. Avalon >> 4 For Your Pleasure >> 5. BF/RM - Platinum >> Collection >> 6. Country Life >> 7. Warm Jets >> 8. Boys and Girls >> 9. The Music 1972 to >> 2008 - Phil Manzanera >> 10. Manifesto >> >> Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque >> >> Seems fair >> to me >> >> Richard >> >> On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: >> >>> A quick >> scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on >>> Roxy >> / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a >>> month >> ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and >>> >> Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> >>> >>> www.andrewshearer.com >>> Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic >>> >>> >>> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To >> unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:53:55 +0100 (BST) From: Terence OConnor Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler I agree about Gemini Moon, it's also worth noting that so much material that has surfaced in the last decade came from an earlier time. Much of which would have made a great Roxy Music Album. I feel that Ferry would have gained much more, not only in sales, but respect from fans and press had he tried this route and stuck to the covers formulae for his own solo career. Terry 'O' From: Andrew Shearer To: avalon avalon Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 12:37 Subject: RE: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler No I didn't get round to it. Also, I've realised from Avalon that even between fans views vary greatly, so I think it's difficult to advise really. I guess the article is aimed at the "Beginners" class and not the "Intermediates". However I'm surprised Bride Stripped Bare or Mamouna didn't get in there. BTW I have Gemini Moon and Wild Cat Days on a mix-tape (okay a mix-MD - I kid you not) playing in the car at the moment - listening to it at the weekend, it occurred to me that those two could have been on a Roxy album (I know Eno et al played on them). Andrew www.andrewshearer.com Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:12:28 +0100 > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler > From: simongmusic@gmail.com > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Did anyone from round these parts make a contribution? > > I forgot! > > Simon > > On 26 July 2011 11:55, Terence OConnor wrote: > > Well this will divide us all!! > > > > But I'm going to stand up for ATGB, as a > > stand alone peice of work it's pure class. > > > > As for the choice of the Platinum > > Collection. PAH!! > > > > Terry 'O' > > > > From: Richard Evans > > To: > > Andrew Shearer > > Cc: avalon avalon > > Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011, 11:49 > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo - spoiler > > > > For > > anyone who is interested the how to buy feature lists top buys as follows > > > > 1. > > Roxy Music > > 2. Stranded > > 3. Avalon > > 4 For Your Pleasure > > 5. BF/RM - Platinum > > Collection > > 6. Country Life > > 7. Warm Jets > > 8. Boys and Girls > > 9. The Music 1972 to > > 2008 - Phil Manzanera > > 10. Manifesto > > > > Avoid - ATGB and Dylanesque > > > > Seems fair > > to me > > > > Richard > > > > On 26 Jul 2011, at 10:54, Andrew Shearer wrote: > > > >> A quick > > scan of the newstand this morning rewarded a two page piece in Mojo on > >> Roxy > > / BF: " How To Buy". (I think maybe Simon had mentioned it before, a > >> month > > ago?) Didn't have time to read much of it but As Time Goes By and > >> > > Dylanesque get a bit of a drubbing as does Viva. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Andrew > >> > >> > >> > >> www.andrewshearer.com > >> Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic > >> > >> > >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > >> > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To > > unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:33:02 -0400 (EDT) From: JohnOBrien001@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] 72-75 What Else Then? I have read over the years many criticisms of the last 3 Roxy Music albums. There is no doubt that these albums have a different feel and direction from the first 4-5 albums. My favourite Roxy tracks are mainly from the early albums too but still enjoy a lot of the stuff on the later albums and I admire the band for trying out new things. There is strong stuff as well as weaker stuff on all periods of Roxy/Ferry 1972-2010 so far and I feel a line is drawn somewhere by fans who think one period is all great and the rest is worthless, or sometimes it's a 'I have been a fan since '72 so my opinion is more valid' attitude. It is sometimes dissed if a fan's entry point to Roxy/Ferry was at the highly commercial period 79-85 as if that was too easy and doesn't make you a 'real' fan (I hate that expression it is so meaningless) I sometimes feel that the later albums are judged not on what they are but more on what they are not and what is they are not the first few albums. Anyone who likes the first period 72-75 the best and registered on here some 36 years later must have some interest in the other 90% (in terms of time) of the bands solo and collective output. What I think would be interesting from fans who don't like the later period is what would/should this particular group of musicians have done instead of Manifesto/Flesh + Blood/Avalon to have kept the dissenters happy? I asked a similar question on the Viva forum a while back and all I got back was what the differences of each period were and not what else they should have done instead. What could they have done to keep it interesting without repeating themselves? Ferry has around 60 originals or co-writes recorded as his solo work. Throw in a few Manzanera and Mackay potential co-writes of material they used on their solo albums and we would have had another 8 Roxy albums. What should Phil, Andy, Paul, Jobson & Eno have done with this material to have made it interesting and not be For Your Pleasure XVI J.O'B. In a message dated 26/07/2011 13:38:12 GMT Daylight Time, mark@olivetreepl.plus.com writes: Do I hear the cry of a 72-75 purist? Terry 'O' ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:50:10 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] 72-75 What Else Then? I'll get back to you............lolol On 26 Jul 2011, at 14:33, JohnOBrien001@aol.com wrote: > I have read over the years many criticisms of the last 3 Roxy Music albums. > There is no doubt that these albums have a different feel and direction > from the first 4-5 albums. My favourite Roxy tracks are mainly from the early > albums too but still enjoy a lot of the stuff on the later albums and I > admire the band for trying out new things. > > There is strong stuff as well as weaker stuff on all periods of Roxy/Ferry > 1972-2010 so far and I feel a line is drawn somewhere by fans who think > one period is all great and the rest is worthless, or sometimes it's a 'I > have been a fan since '72 so my opinion is more valid' attitude. It is > sometimes dissed if a fan's entry point to Roxy/Ferry was at the highly commercial > period 79-85 as if that was too easy and doesn't make you a 'real' fan (I > hate that expression it is so meaningless) > > I sometimes feel that the later albums are judged not on what they are but > more on what they are not and what is they are not the first few albums. > Anyone who likes the first period 72-75 the best and registered on here some > 36 years later must have some interest in the other 90% (in terms of time) > of the bands solo and collective output. > > What I think would be interesting from fans who don't like the later > period is what would/should this particular group of musicians have done instead > of Manifesto/Flesh + Blood/Avalon to have kept the dissenters happy? > I asked a similar question on the Viva forum a while back and all I got > back was what the differences of each period were and not what else they > should have done instead. > > What could they have done to keep it interesting without repeating > themselves? > > Ferry has around 60 originals or co-writes recorded as his solo work. Throw > in a few Manzanera and Mackay potential co-writes of material they used on > their solo albums and we would have had another 8 Roxy albums. What should > Phil, Andy, Paul, Jobson & Eno have done with this material to have made > it interesting and not be For Your Pleasure XVI > > > J.O'B. > > > > > In a message dated 26/07/2011 13:38:12 GMT Daylight Time, > mark@olivetreepl.plus.com writes: > > Do I hear the cry of a 72-75 purist? > > Terry 'O' > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:49:45 -0400 (EDT) From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] I Can't Get Started Loved this one on the ATGB tour - was it recorded for the album? J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:06:11 +0100 From: Simon Galloway Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Can't Get Started One of my faves too. I was listening to this version earlier today... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyAoTLJAHOk Can't remember if BF recorded it for ATGB or not. Wasn't a new arrangement of You Go To My Head tried out as part of the album sessions? Simon On 26 July 2011 15:49, wrote: > Loved this one on the ATGB tour - was it recorded for the album? > > J > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:15:16 -0400 (EDT) From: JohnOBrien001@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Can't Get Started 'I Can't Get Started With You' was recorded for the 'As Time Goes By' as well as 'You Go To My Head' and 'Some Other Spring' but these have never been released. 'Smoke Dreams (Of You)' ended up on the Goddess Of Love CD single and 'If I Didn't Care' also from the same sessions ended up on the 'As Time Goes By' CD single. J.O'B. In a message dated 26/07/2011 16:07:21 GMT Daylight Time, simongmusic@gmail.com writes: One of my faves too. I was listening to this version earlier today... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyAoTLJAHOk Can't remember if BF recorded it for ATGB or not. Wasn't a new arrangement of You Go To My Head tried out as part of the album sessions? Simon On 26 July 2011 15:49, wrote: > Loved this one on the ATGB tour - was it recorded for the album? > > J > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V15 #150 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest