From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V15 #1113 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, August 27 2016 Volume 15 : Number 1113 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Pub rock [Richard Evans ] Re: [AVALON] Pub rock [Chris Turner ] Re: [AVALON] Pub rock [Mark Longhorn ] Re: [AVALON] Pub rock [Simon Galloway ] [AVALON] Live video recordings ["Mark Longhorn" ] RE: [AVALON] Re: The First Roxy Music Album...Live ["Rick Savoy" ] Fw: [AVALON] It's Good News Week... [Diane whateley ] [AVALON] To synth or not to synth... [Stephen Thrower ] Re: [AVALON] Pub rock [Chris Turner ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 15:43:12 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pub rock Andy is also all over a couple of McCartney albums from the same ish period - anybody help with the titles - I think Pipes of Peace era Sent from my iPad > On 27 Aug 2016, at 14:45, Chris Turner wrote: > > Eddie and the Hot Rods were signed to Island Records, the same label as > Roxy, and Andy produced and played on their 1976 single 'Wooly Bully.' > (yes, the same song BF added to his Frantic tour). Incidentally the > engineer on that single was Rhett Davies. > > The B-side, although it had no Roxy-related writing or production credit > was called Horseplay (Weary of the Schmaltz), which to me is a pretty clear > Roxy reference. > > Andy was quite the busiest of Roxy's members during the 72-79 period. Five > Roxy albums, two solo, The Rock Follies project and a number of composing, > production and session credits with artists like Mott The Hoople, > Manzanera, Ray Russell and Godley and Creme. Mackay also worked with Mickey > Jupp, a fellow alumnus (with The Hot Rods) of the Southend/Canvey Island > scene, and probably the best rock and roll songwriter you've never heard > of. I bought his excellent Kiss Me Quick compilation recently, and you can > hear Andy's sax prominently on the Long Distance Romancer-era songs.Gary > Tibbs also plays on those tracks. > > I bought the Mellencamp album 'A Biography' (when he was called Johnny > Cougar) well over thirty years ago and was amazed to find Andy credited. I > wouldn't have put those two together at all. > > Chris (Pub Rock man) > > > > >> On 26 August 2016 at 21:27, Mark Longhorn wrote: >> >> Don't know if anyone else is watching this on sky arts, but I just saw >> Andy Mackay playing with Eddie & the hot rods in about 1977!! Amazing/ I >> never knew he played with them! >> >> Mactheaxe >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> _______________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 14:45:08 +0100 From: Chris Turner Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pub rock Eddie and the Hot Rods were signed to Island Records, the same label as Roxy, and Andy produced and played on their 1976 single 'Wooly Bully.' (yes, the same song BF added to his Frantic tour). Incidentally the engineer on that single was Rhett Davies. The B-side, although it had no Roxy-related writing or production credit was called Horseplay (Weary of the Schmaltz), which to me is a pretty clear Roxy reference. Andy was quite the busiest of Roxy's members during the 72-79 period. Five Roxy albums, two solo, The Rock Follies project and a number of composing, production and session credits with artists like Mott The Hoople, Manzanera, Ray Russell and Godley and Creme. Mackay also worked with Mickey Jupp, a fellow alumnus (with The Hot Rods) of the Southend/Canvey Island scene, and probably the best rock and roll songwriter you've never heard of. I bought his excellent Kiss Me Quick compilation recently, and you can hear Andy's sax prominently on the Long Distance Romancer-era songs.Gary Tibbs also plays on those tracks. I bought the Mellencamp album 'A Biography' (when he was called Johnny Cougar) well over thirty years ago and was amazed to find Andy credited. I wouldn't have put those two together at all. Chris (Pub Rock man) On 26 August 2016 at 21:27, Mark Longhorn wrote: > Don't know if anyone else is watching this on sky arts, but I just saw > Andy Mackay playing with Eddie & the hot rods in about 1977!! Amazing/ I > never knew he played with them! > > Mactheaxe > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 09:27:26 +0100 From: Mark Longhorn Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pub rock Hi Lee- I will see if I can somehow get that clip onto YouTube. Now you mention it, I think it was Woolly bully. Mactheaxe Sent from my iPhone On 27 Aug 2016, at 09:20, leesullivanart@aol.com wrote: > Hi Mark, don't have Sky (and can't post to Avalon!) but he produced 'Wooly Bully' for them and was helpful in their early career; he and wife Jane are thanked on (I think) the first live EP. Never saw that performance though, dammit! > > Lee S > > > > > > Displacement activity a problem? This won't help: www.leesullivanart.co.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Longhorn > To: Avalon > Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2016 9:28 pm > Subject: [AVALON] Pub rock > > Don't know if anyone else is watching this on sky arts, but I just saw Andy Mackay playing with Eddie & the hot rods in about 1977!! Amazing/ I never knew he played with them! > > Mactheaxe > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 15:55:13 +0100 From: Simon Galloway Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pub rock He's definitely on Tug Of War playing on the Stevie Wonder collaboration that ISN'T Ebony And Ivory! Possibly on Pipes Of Peace too. Can't remember. On 27 Aug 2016 15:45, "Richard Evans" wrote: > Andy is also all over a couple of McCartney albums from the same ish > period - anybody help with the titles - I think Pipes of Peace era > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 27 Aug 2016, at 14:45, Chris Turner wrote: > > > > Eddie and the Hot Rods were signed to Island Records, the same label as > > Roxy, and Andy produced and played on their 1976 single 'Wooly Bully.' > > (yes, the same song BF added to his Frantic tour). Incidentally the > > engineer on that single was Rhett Davies. > > > > The B-side, although it had no Roxy-related writing or production credit > > was called Horseplay (Weary of the Schmaltz), which to me is a pretty > clear > > Roxy reference. > > > > Andy was quite the busiest of Roxy's members during the 72-79 period. > Five > > Roxy albums, two solo, The Rock Follies project and a number of > composing, > > production and session credits with artists like Mott The Hoople, > > Manzanera, Ray Russell and Godley and Creme. Mackay also worked with > Mickey > > Jupp, a fellow alumnus (with The Hot Rods) of the Southend/Canvey Island > > scene, and probably the best rock and roll songwriter you've never heard > > of. I bought his excellent Kiss Me Quick compilation recently, and you > can > > hear Andy's sax prominently on the Long Distance Romancer-era songs.Gary > > Tibbs also plays on those tracks. > > > > I bought the Mellencamp album 'A Biography' (when he was called Johnny > > Cougar) well over thirty years ago and was amazed to find Andy credited. > I > > wouldn't have put those two together at all. > > > > Chris (Pub Rock man) > > > > > > > > > >> On 26 August 2016 at 21:27, Mark Longhorn > wrote: > >> > >> Don't know if anyone else is watching this on sky arts, but I just saw > >> Andy Mackay playing with Eddie & the hot rods in about 1977!! Amazing/ I > >> never knew he played with them! > >> > >> Mactheaxe > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> _______________ > >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:07:37 +0100 From: "Mark Longhorn" Subject: [AVALON] Live video recordings Ok, so we've sorted out audio (I think- apart from a technicality on Bitters End!). Here's the next one for you all to think on.... - - What RM songs are available as a video recording- and more importantly, which ones are not? - - Again, whether or not they are RM in concert or BF in concert (or indeed anyone else in concert) is important to the cognescenti. mactheaxe ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:13:02 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] To synth or not to synth... Great post Stephen Sent from my iPhone > On 26 Aug 2016, at 17:28, Stephen Thrower wrote: > > Nice to see so much activity here! > > Ive just noticed something very interesting while listening to the classic Roxy Music live recording made by the BBC at the Paris Theatre, London in September 1972 . On my old bootleg LP version (Better Than Food) the version of Grey Lagoons (aka The Bogus Man Part 2) features what has always sounded to me like a demented stylophone solo in the first instrumental break; however, the same gig recording, as heard on a Youtube upload from 2015, features no such sound - the same instrumental passage proceeds without the synthesised element. Therefore we have two different mixes of the same performance: one with Eno and one without. > > Listening carefully, I was able to discern that the stylophone' on the bootleg LP is in fact an electronic treatment of Andy Mackays sax: you can hear the untreated sax (very quietly) on the Youtube version but it's obliterated by the electronics on the bootleg version. A comparison of the sax line and the 'synth line reveals the same note sequence. But whereas the Youtube sax is clean and fairly orderly, the synthed-up version distorts the note sequence, adding a series of jagged displacements, as though Eno were randomly changing the tuning of his audio-feed from Mackay by swiping his fingers along the keyboard, electronically disturbing the note-sequence Mackay was playing. > > I dont know how there can be two different recordings of this performance (obviously I prefer the version with Eno) but this opportunity to compare two different mixes sheds further light on the extraordinary sound modifications that went on in the early live shows. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:40:30 +0100 From: Simon Galloway Subject: Re: [AVALON] To synth or not to synth... That's something I've noticed and pondered too. The simple answer is that the version on Better Than Food (and a few other boot lps) is in stereo; the YouTube upload is in mono (and probably sourced from First Kiss or the BBC Sessions set that I remastered a few years back and appears to have spread around the world). This is where it gets complicated (putting my sound engineer head on)... If I'm correct, for that crazy synth to disappear in the mono mix, there must have been a phase issue with the synth, meaning it disappears from the mix when in mono. The sax is being picked up by other stage microphones, so is ghosting through those into the mix. That's my theory anyway. Of course, the other answer could be that (assuminng it was recorded on multitrack tape), two mixes were made. One with synth, one without. When I first heard the Better Than Food mix, I assumed that someone had added their own synth-like overdub to fill the empty space, but the BBC repeated (most of) this concert a couple of years ago, in stereo, and the crazy synth is there in all its glory. Those BBC sessions are definitely the best place to hear how Eno would gloriously wreak havoc with Roxy's sound. On 26 August 2016 at 17:28, Stephen Thrower wrote: > Nice to see so much activity here! > > I ve just noticed something very interesting while listening to the classic Roxy Music live recording made by the BBC at the Paris Theatre, London in September 1972 . On my old bootleg LP version ( Better Than Food ) the version of Grey Lagoons (aka The Bogus Man Part 2 ) features what has always sounded to me like a demented stylophone solo in the first instrumental break; however, the same gig recording, as heard on a Youtube upload from 2015, features no such sound - the same instrumental passage proceeds without the synthesised element. Therefore we have two different mixes of the same performance: one with Eno and one without. > > Listening carefully, I was able to discern that the stylophone' on the bootleg LP is in fact an electronic treatment of Andy Mackay s sax: you can hear the untreated sax (very quietly) on the Youtube version but it's obliterated by the electronics on the bootleg version. A comparison of the sax line and the 'synth line reveals the same note sequence. But whereas the Youtube sax is clean and fairly orderly, the synthed-up version distorts the note sequence, adding a series of jagged displacements, as though Eno were randomly changing the tuning of his audio-feed from Mackay by swiping his fingers along the keyboard, electronically disturbing the note-sequence Mackay was playing. > > I don t know how there can be two different recordings of this performance (obviously I prefer the version with Eno) but this opportunity to compare two different mixes sheds further light on the extraordinary sound modifications that went on in the early live shows. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > - -- http://glossoprecordclub.wordpress.com/ https://www.mixcloud.com/simongmusic/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:21:42 +0100 From: Evans Richard Subject: Re: [AVALON] Live video recordings Oh my - thats gonna need some thought although we certainly have the Manifesto, F&B, Avalon and 2001 Reunion tours readily available Probably best to start there and does that include TV live performances? On 26 Aug 2016, at 13:07, Mark Longhorn wrote: > Ok, so we've sorted out audio (I think- apart from a technicality on Bitters > End!). > > > > Here's the next one for you all to think on.... > > > > - What RM songs are available as a video recording- and more > importantly, which ones are not? > > - Again, whether or not they are RM in concert or BF in concert (or > indeed anyone else in concert) is important to the cognescenti. > > > > > > mactheaxe > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:09:44 -0400 From: "Rick Savoy" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: The First Roxy Music Album...Live Thank you Simon (and Dick)! Fantastic effort! Cheers, Roxy Rick - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Simon Galloway Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:44 PM To: Avalon Subject: [AVALON] Re: The First Roxy Music Album...Live Well thanks for all the kind comments, glad you're all enjoying the live renditions. For Your Pleasure is already in the works! In the meantime, Dick has very kindly put together some CD artwork for those who wish to make it a more complete package. The files are here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwkpMMeuZPhYU0t5Wm5SYUJuZFk Thanks Dick! On 23 August 2016 at 22:34, Simon Galloway wrote: > Get ready for a CD tree 2016 stylee! Remember CD trees?! > > Definitely a case of re-make/re-model... > > Live versions of all the tracks from the debut album (plus a couple of > extras), sourced from radio broadcasts, soundboard and audience tapes > recorded between 1972 and 2011. > > The selection criteria has been: > Not officially released. > Best possible sound quality. > Different to versions on officially released live albums. > > Tracks and sources as follows: > > 1. Re-Make/Re-Model (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) 2. Ladytron > (Stranded tour, 1973/74) 3. If There Is Something (Glasgow SECC, 11 > June 2001) 4. 2HB (Birmingham NEC, 31 January 2011)* 5. The BOB > (Medley) (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) 6. Chance Meeting (Paris > Theatre, London, August 1972) 7. Would You Believe (Crystal Palace > Garden Party, 29 July 1972)* 8. Sea Breezes (Orpheum Theatre, Boston, > 6 March 1976) 9. Bitters End (John Peel Session, 23 June 1972) > > BONUS TRACKS > 10. Virginia Plain (Newcastle City Hall, 28 October 1974) 11. > Re-Make/Re-Model (version 2) (Wembley Empire Pool, 17 October 1975) > > *audience recordings > > These links are active for 7 days and will expire on 30th August. > > FLAC: https://we.tl/yJyG0PzTwT > MP3 (320kbps): https://we.tl/v8oL2vufuQ > > I've never made FLAC files before but they seem to work fine for me, > but if anyone does encounter problems, let me know. > > Same time next week. > > SG > > -- > http://glossoprecordclub.wordpress.com/ > > https://www.mixcloud.com/simongmusic/ - -- http://glossoprecordclub.wordpress.com/ https://www.mixcloud.com/simongmusic/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:15:34 +0200 From: "Dick Verseput" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: The First Roxy Music Album...Live Thanks Alan, 1999?? no thanks to Simon for me perhaps: RETRO, SENTIMENTAL fool, FUN ( as in "WHEN WE WHERE YOUNG" ) the music stays fantastic. But I also buy vinyl records again, you to?? Glade that Avalon is still there, and Commander Ferry on the road, we have tickets for 29 sept 2016, never thought that would ever happen back in 1999. GTZ D CIAO, Petra&Dick - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] Namens Alan Heaton Verzonden: vrijdag 26 augustus 2016 17:41 Aan: Rick Savoy CC: Simon Galloway; Avalon Onderwerp: Re: [AVALON] Re: The First Roxy Music Album...Live CD artwork, too?!?!?! What is this, 1999? :) Woohoo! Wonderful work, Dick! Cheers, Alan On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 5:09 AM, Rick Savoy wrote: > Thank you Simon (and Dick)! Fantastic effort! > > Cheers, > Roxy Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of Simon Galloway > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:44 PM > To: Avalon > Subject: [AVALON] Re: The First Roxy Music Album...Live > > Well thanks for all the kind comments, glad you're all enjoying the > live renditions. For Your Pleasure is already in the works! > > In the meantime, Dick has very kindly put together some CD artwork for > those who wish to make it a more complete package. The files are here: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwkpMMeuZPhYU0t5Wm5SYUJuZFk > > Thanks Dick! > > On 23 August 2016 at 22:34, Simon Galloway wrote: > > Get ready for a CD tree 2016 stylee! Remember CD trees?! > > > > Definitely a case of re-make/re-model... > > > > Live versions of all the tracks from the debut album (plus a couple > > of extras), sourced from radio broadcasts, soundboard and audience > > tapes recorded between 1972 and 2011. > > > > The selection criteria has been: > > Not officially released. > > Best possible sound quality. > > Different to versions on officially released live albums. > > > > Tracks and sources as follows: > > > > 1. Re-Make/Re-Model (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) 2. Ladytron > > (Stranded tour, 1973/74) 3. If There Is Something (Glasgow SECC, 11 > > June 2001) 4. 2HB (Birmingham NEC, 31 January 2011)* 5. The BOB > > (Medley) (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) 6. Chance Meeting > > (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) 7. Would You Believe (Crystal > > Palace Garden Party, 29 July 1972)* 8. Sea Breezes (Orpheum Theatre, > > Boston, > > 6 March 1976) 9. Bitters End (John Peel Session, 23 June 1972) > > > > BONUS TRACKS > > 10. Virginia Plain (Newcastle City Hall, 28 October 1974) 11. > > Re-Make/Re-Model (version 2) (Wembley Empire Pool, 17 October 1975) > > > > *audience recordings > > > > These links are active for 7 days and will expire on 30th August. > > > > FLAC: https://we.tl/yJyG0PzTwT > > MP3 (320kbps): https://we.tl/v8oL2vufuQ > > > > I've never made FLAC files before but they seem to work fine for me, > > but if anyone does encounter problems, let me know. > > > > Same time next week. > > > > SG > > > > -- > > http://glossoprecordclub.wordpress.com/ > > > > https://www.mixcloud.com/simongmusic/ > > > > -- > http://glossoprecordclub.wordpress.com/ > > https://www.mixcloud.com/simongmusic/ > > > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:41:11 -0700 From: Alan Heaton Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: The First Roxy Music Album...Live CD artwork, too?!?!?! What is this, 1999? :) Woohoo! Wonderful work, Dick! Cheers, Alan On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 5:09 AM, Rick Savoy wrote: > Thank you Simon (and Dick)! Fantastic effort! > > Cheers, > Roxy Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Simon Galloway > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:44 PM > To: Avalon > Subject: [AVALON] Re: The First Roxy Music Album...Live > > Well thanks for all the kind comments, glad you're all enjoying the live > renditions. For Your Pleasure is already in the works! > > In the meantime, Dick has very kindly put together some CD artwork for > those who wish to make it a more complete package. The files are here: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwkpMMeuZPhYU0t5Wm5SYUJuZFk > > Thanks Dick! > > On 23 August 2016 at 22:34, Simon Galloway wrote: > > Get ready for a CD tree 2016 stylee! Remember CD trees?! > > > > Definitely a case of re-make/re-model... > > > > Live versions of all the tracks from the debut album (plus a couple of > > extras), sourced from radio broadcasts, soundboard and audience tapes > > recorded between 1972 and 2011. > > > > The selection criteria has been: > > Not officially released. > > Best possible sound quality. > > Different to versions on officially released live albums. > > > > Tracks and sources as follows: > > > > 1. Re-Make/Re-Model (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) 2. Ladytron > > (Stranded tour, 1973/74) 3. If There Is Something (Glasgow SECC, 11 > > June 2001) 4. 2HB (Birmingham NEC, 31 January 2011)* 5. The BOB > > (Medley) (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) 6. Chance Meeting (Paris > > Theatre, London, August 1972) 7. Would You Believe (Crystal Palace > > Garden Party, 29 July 1972)* 8. Sea Breezes (Orpheum Theatre, Boston, > > 6 March 1976) 9. Bitters End (John Peel Session, 23 June 1972) > > > > BONUS TRACKS > > 10. Virginia Plain (Newcastle City Hall, 28 October 1974) 11. > > Re-Make/Re-Model (version 2) (Wembley Empire Pool, 17 October 1975) > > > > *audience recordings > > > > These links are active for 7 days and will expire on 30th August. > > > > FLAC: https://we.tl/yJyG0PzTwT > > MP3 (320kbps): https://we.tl/v8oL2vufuQ > > > > I've never made FLAC files before but they seem to work fine for me, > > but if anyone does encounter problems, let me know. > > > > Same time next week. > > > > SG > > > > -- > > http://glossoprecordclub.wordpress.com/ > > > > https://www.mixcloud.com/simongmusic/ > > > > -- > http://glossoprecordclub.wordpress.com/ > > https://www.mixcloud.com/simongmusic/ > > > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:27:35 +0100 From: Mark Longhorn Subject: Re: [AVALON] The First Roxy Music Album...Live All, you can convert flac files to wav using an app called Traders little helper. Then you can burn a cd no problem. Sent from my iPhone On 24 Aug 2016, at 05:11, seely31@comcast.net wrote: > Thanks, Simon. I was able to download and burn this faster than I could type, "I'm offering this Roxy Music cd to the first five people who respond. Conditions: you must burn copies for three people." > > Well, almost. I had trouble with the FLAC files. My burner said I didn't have burn rights. The mp3s worked fine, though. > > Pete S. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Galloway" > To: "Avalon" > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 4:43:30 PM > Subject: [AVALON] The First Roxy Music Album...Live > > Get ready for a CD tree 2016 stylee! Remember CD trees?! > > Definitely a case of re-make/re-model... > > Live versions of all the tracks from the debut album (plus a couple of > extras), sourced from radio broadcasts, soundboard and audience tapes > recorded between 1972 and 2011. > > The selection criteria has been: > Not officially released. > Best possible sound quality. > Different to versions on officially released live albums. > > Tracks and sources as follows: > > 1. Re-Make/Re-Model (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) > 2. Ladytron (Stranded tour, 1973/74) > 3. If There Is Something (Glasgow SECC, 11 June 2001) > 4. 2HB (Birmingham NEC, 31 January 2011)* > 5. The BOB (Medley) (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) > 6. Chance Meeting (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) > 7. Would You Believe (Crystal Palace Garden Party, 29 July 1972)* > 8. Sea Breezes (Orpheum Theatre, Boston, 6 March 1976) > 9. Bitters End (John Peel Session, 23 June 1972) > > BONUS TRACKS > 10. Virginia Plain (Newcastle City Hall, 28 October 1974) > 11. Re-Make/Re-Model (version 2) (Wembley Empire Pool, 17 October 1975) > > *audience recordings > > These links are active for 7 days and will expire on 30th August. > > FLAC: http://tinyurl.com/z3sv5sq > MP3 (320kbps): http://tinyurl.com/jjzgu9s > > I've never made FLAC files before but they seem to work fine for me, > but if anyone does encounter problems, let me know. > > Same time next week. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 23:43:52 +0100 From: Simon Galloway Subject: [AVALON] Re: The First Roxy Music Album...Live Well thanks for all the kind comments, glad you're all enjoying the live renditions. For Your Pleasure is already in the works! In the meantime, Dick has very kindly put together some CD artwork for those who wish to make it a more complete package. The files are here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwkpMMeuZPhYU0t5Wm5SYUJuZFk Thanks Dick! On 23 August 2016 at 22:34, Simon Galloway wrote: > Get ready for a CD tree 2016 stylee! Remember CD trees?! > > Definitely a case of re-make/re-model... > > Live versions of all the tracks from the debut album (plus a couple of > extras), sourced from radio broadcasts, soundboard and audience tapes > recorded between 1972 and 2011. > > The selection criteria has been: > Not officially released. > Best possible sound quality. > Different to versions on officially released live albums. > > Tracks and sources as follows: > > 1. Re-Make/Re-Model (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) > 2. Ladytron (Stranded tour, 1973/74) > 3. If There Is Something (Glasgow SECC, 11 June 2001) > 4. 2HB (Birmingham NEC, 31 January 2011)* > 5. The BOB (Medley) (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) > 6. Chance Meeting (Paris Theatre, London, August 1972) > 7. Would You Believe (Crystal Palace Garden Party, 29 July 1972)* > 8. Sea Breezes (Orpheum Theatre, Boston, 6 March 1976) > 9. Bitters End (John Peel Session, 23 June 1972) > > BONUS TRACKS > 10. Virginia Plain (Newcastle City Hall, 28 October 1974) > 11. Re-Make/Re-Model (version 2) (Wembley Empire Pool, 17 October 1975) > > *audience recordings > > These links are active for 7 days and will expire on 30th August. > > FLAC: https://we.tl/yJyG0PzTwT > MP3 (320kbps): https://we.tl/v8oL2vufuQ > > I've never made FLAC files before but they seem to work fine for me, > but if anyone does encounter problems, let me know. > > Same time next week. > > SG > > -- > http://glossoprecordclub.wordpress.com/ > > https://www.mixcloud.com/simongmusic/ - -- http://glossoprecordclub.wordpress.com/ https://www.mixcloud.com/simongmusic/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:21:37 -0500 From: Marlana Korfanty Subject: [AVALON] Re: HELLO ENJOYING THE THREADS OF INFO.....LIKE. OLD TIMES PLEASE KEEP IT UP........ AS ALWAYS MARLANA ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:31:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Diane whateley Subject: Fw: [AVALON] It's Good News Week... Excellent, Simon, many thanks for your efforts -interesting Chris. I do tend to agree with you- I couldn't abide the Jazz Age- a massacre of my favourite tracks!! And I have followed the Commander since 1973....sigh- I wish I could time travel back to my first gig at the Glasgow Apollo..!! On Friday, 26 August 2016, 9:18, Richard Evans wrote: Enjoyed that post Cheers Richard Sent from my iPad > On 26 Aug 2016, at 00:42, Chris Turner wrote: > > Roxy Music had a Platinum album last year. > > OK, so it took almost 14 years for 'The Best of Roxy Music' to reach > Platinum status in May last year but selling 600,000 of anything is pretty > good in my book. > > Source: http://goo.gl/XXPykI > > Avonmore was more successful that Olympia. > > At least in chart performance anyway. Although both albums had a three week > initial run peaking at #19, Avonmore had a further four week chart run last > year, four months after release, this time getting to #28. On that > evidence, it would have sold better that its twin-brother.. > > Source: http://goo.gl/JPojv6 > > Ferry Inspires Award-Winning Film Title > > Hong Kong film 'In The Mood For Love', whose English title was inspired by > Bryan Ferry's 1999 version of 'I'm In The Mood For Love' (it appeared on > some international versions of the soundtrack) was this very week voted the > second best film of the 21st Century by BBC Culture. > > Source: http://goo.gl/zURbL2 > > The Jazz Age sold 100,000 copies. > > ...at least according to Alistair Norbury, BF's manager for the last 10 > years. Must be true; I'm sure a man who was in the past both a lawyer and a > marketing man wouldn't make something up just to impress a potential > employer, would he? Just kidding. Well done to BF if it's true. I wasn't > one of the 100K I can assure you. > > Source: http://goo.gl/Ui5r0n > > More Gems in the Archives > > Dave Stewart's recent lightweight but entertaining autobiography 'Sweet > Dreams Are Made Of This' is filled with nice anecdotes about his work with > The Commander. Clearly an admirer of BF both as an artist and a man > ('there's nobody like him really; they definitely broke the mold (sic)'), > Stewart revealed that he and BF sometimes listen to some of the unreleased > outtakes from their sessions together in the 1990s. There are 'loads of > unfinished sketches and songs that were either put to the side or just > didn't fit with the project'. > > There's also a nice anecdote about how DS met his partner when he and BF > were out on the lash. Well, strictly speaking they were invited to dinner > in St Tropez by the Duchess of Seville. Which of us hasn't had that eh? > > Source: http://goo.gl/mU9Hgj > > > There you go. Five pieces of good news. Are you happy now? > > Folks, Avalon isn't a hagiography. Sometimes people will have a different > opinion to you. More fool you if you take any notice of mine. > > Just for the record, although BF's post-Frantic output leaves me pretty > cold, I liked just about everything up until then (more than most can say, > I'll bet), I still think he's got a lot to offer live, he has a wonderful > back catalogue, and above all, I ALWAYS want him to succeed, because I'll > ALWAYS think he's great. > > Chris > > PS. Nice one, Simon. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with:B unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with:B unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 17:28:38 +0100 From: Stephen Thrower Subject: [AVALON] To synth or not to synth... Nice to see so much activity here! Ive just noticed something very interesting while listening to the classic Roxy Music live recording made by the BBC at the Paris Theatre, London in September 1972 . On my old bootleg LP version (Better Than Food) the version of Grey Lagoons (aka The Bogus Man Part 2) features what has always sounded to me like a demented stylophone solo in the first instrumental break; however, the same gig recording, as heard on a Youtube upload from 2015, features no such sound - the same instrumental passage proceeds without the synthesised element. Therefore we have two different mixes of the same performance: one with Eno and one without. Listening carefully, I was able to discern that the stylophone' on the bootleg LP is in fact an electronic treatment of Andy Mackays sax: you can hear the untreated sax (very quietly) on the Youtube version but it's obliterated by the electronics on the bootleg version. A comparison of the sax line and the 'synth line reveals the same note sequence. But whereas the Youtube sax is clean and fairly orderly, the synthed-up version distorts the note sequence, adding a series of jagged displacements, as though Eno were randomly changing the tuning of his audio-feed from Mackay by swiping his fingers along the keyboard, electronically disturbing the note-sequence Mackay was playing. I dont know how there can be two different recordings of this performance (obviously I prefer the version with Eno) but this opportunity to compare two different mixes sheds further light on the extraordinary sound modifications that went on in the early live shows. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:00:30 +0100 From: Chris Turner Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pub rock He did work with McCartney post Roxy and Macca did a take off of Mackay on the video for 'Coming Up', along with Ginger Baker, Buddy Holly and Ron Mael, amongst others. His Linda McCartney id very convincing. Chris On 27 August 2016 at 15:55, Simon Galloway wrote: > He's definitely on Tug Of War playing on the Stevie Wonder collaboration > that ISN'T Ebony And Ivory! Possibly on Pipes Of Peace too. Can't remember. > > On 27 Aug 2016 15:45, "Richard Evans" wrote: > >> Andy is also all over a couple of McCartney albums from the same ish >> period - anybody help with the titles - I think Pipes of Peace era >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On 27 Aug 2016, at 14:45, Chris Turner wrote: >> > >> > Eddie and the Hot Rods were signed to Island Records, the same label as >> > Roxy, and Andy produced and played on their 1976 single 'Wooly Bully.' >> > (yes, the same song BF added to his Frantic tour). Incidentally the >> > engineer on that single was Rhett Davies. >> > >> > The B-side, although it had no Roxy-related writing or production credit >> > was called Horseplay (Weary of the Schmaltz), which to me is a pretty >> clear >> > Roxy reference. >> > >> > Andy was quite the busiest of Roxy's members during the 72-79 period. >> Five >> > Roxy albums, two solo, The Rock Follies project and a number of >> composing, >> > production and session credits with artists like Mott The Hoople, >> > Manzanera, Ray Russell and Godley and Creme. Mackay also worked with >> Mickey >> > Jupp, a fellow alumnus (with The Hot Rods) of the Southend/Canvey Island >> > scene, and probably the best rock and roll songwriter you've never heard >> > of. I bought his excellent Kiss Me Quick compilation recently, and you >> can >> > hear Andy's sax prominently on the Long Distance Romancer-era songs.Gary >> > Tibbs also plays on those tracks. >> > >> > I bought the Mellencamp album 'A Biography' (when he was called Johnny >> > Cougar) well over thirty years ago and was amazed to find Andy >> credited. I >> > wouldn't have put those two together at all. >> > >> > Chris (Pub Rock man) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> On 26 August 2016 at 21:27, Mark Longhorn >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Don't know if anyone else is watching this on sky arts, but I just saw >> >> Andy Mackay playing with Eddie & the hot rods in about 1977!! Amazing/ >> I >> >> never knew he played with them! >> >> >> >> Mactheaxe >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> _______________ >> >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> _______________ >> > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> _______________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V15 #1113 ****************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest