From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V15 #1086 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, August 5 2016 Volume 15 : Number 1086 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. [Andrew Shearer ] RE: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. ["Terry" ] [AVALON] Meanwhile............. [olivetreepl+mark ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 12:46:23 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. The other thing I wonder is if the hoped for albums will just be on sale via BF's website. I decided to treat myself to the Live 2015 CD the week before last and I have to say that was a very positive experience. For someone who didn't go to those concerts I'm surprised how much I've enjoyed listening to the CDs as much as I have and, in addition, it's a nicely produced package. The advantages to BF et al of just selling through the website is that it bypasses all the complicated money collection mechanisms that are normally in play - no bar code or anything - it bypasses the "middlemen" record companies too, who'd want to take their cut. For someone of BF's stature, he can do that - people will go to his website to find his latest release rather than elsewhere. It makes sense in a way: how many new fans will he pick up from being generally available across all the stores? Better to reduce his costs and sell through the website perhaps? Anyway, I could be totally wrong but it's just a thought. I will make just one final point, which I thought recently - I think it's pretty dammed impressive he's doing these concerts in the US and across Europe etc - i.e. 2 nights in NY? There aren't many stars, particularly of his generation, able to do that still I'd have thought? Andrew > From: shearerandrew@hotmail.com > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 11:49:50 +0000 > > Well I guess you could be right Tracy, particularly as he's busy touring at > the moment, but commercially, I would've thought (as I suspect the products > will be expensive) the time of release would be around Christmas? > > From memory I thought Steve Wilson had completed the 5.1 mixes of the first > album etc and there was some mixing of the BF Albert Hall gig circa Another > Time, Another Place? But there are others here more in the know, as to whether > theyre allowed to say, is another matter :) > > > > Andrew > > > www.andrewshearer.com > Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic > > > > From: tracyep@hotmail.com > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. > > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 11:40:57 +0000 > > > > Sorry didn't finish that email.. > > > > Personally, I would release them next year as it will be the 45th > anniversary > > of the first album. > > > > > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 12:21:11 +0100 > > > From: mark@olivetreepl.plus.com > > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > > Subject: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. > > > > > > Sorry to bring the conversation back to Roxy Music, but... > > > > > > It's now August: no signs or any press releases whatsoever regarding > > > the first two albums ( and book....) that should have been out in May. > > > > > > Is it a case of a summer break disturbing the production line ? > > > > > > In what has been a pretty bad year all round, I was hoping these > > > releases would lift my spirits. > > > > > > Looks like there's fat chance of tha happening: perhaps someone in the > > > know can give us an update? > > > > > > > > > Mactheaxe > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 09:28:55 +0000 From: Tracy Connell Subject: RE: [AVALON] it's 2016 "Bit like that Bryan Ferry guy." I take offense at this, and it makes me wonder why you are still here Chris. I also see no need in attacking Colleen. One reason to change the reply destination was because some people were posting to the list when they were meant to be private replies to individuals. It was easily done. i did it myself once. So it does prevent embarrassment and cut down some stuff we don't need to even see. I put the lack of use of the list down to the rise of social media and everyone having busier lives these days. Perhaps you should reconsider your presence here if you are so unhappy with it and with Ferry?? Tracy > From: cbturner@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 19:54:31 +0100 > Subject: Re: [AVALON] it's 2016 > To: avalon@smoe.org > > As I recall the first thing our list Gaulieter did after her Napoleonic > self-coronation was to change the default reply for the group to go to the > sender rather than the list as it had previously. She said this was to > reduce what she termed 'white noise' or what you and I would call > discussion. Nothing did more to damage the continuity of conversations than > that arbitrary action and we have been in decline ever since. Bit like that > Bryan Ferry guy. > > Even as the nine of us left sit here in the smoking ruins of what once was, > with many unable to post or to receive posts consistently, The (Self) > Chosen One still demands the we respect her worthless fiefdom. What is the > the sound of No Ears Listening? > > I wish I could change her default setting, y'all. > > Chris (who is happy to thank Smoe for their largesse for the second day > running) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:16:35 +0100 From: "Terry" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. Good points all, Andrew. Many artists are Re-Making & Re-Modelling their back catalogue and live output. Gary Numan is currently selling CDs, Box sets, test pressing et all in various forms of signed deals and packages to great effect on his own store. Although a fan I have not gone down the line of purchasing, but many of the items sell out quickly. So I believe Bryan Ferry should do the same. I suspect the first thing to arrive will be the '74 solo show. I will be hand over my credit card for that one! Terry - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Shearer Sent: 05 August 2016 13:46 To: avalon avalon Subject: RE: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. The other thing I wonder is if the hoped for albums will just be on sale via BF's website. I decided to treat myself to the Live 2015 CD the week before last and I have to say that was a very positive experience. For someone who didn't go to those concerts I'm surprised how much I've enjoyed listening to the CDs as much as I have and, in addition, it's a nicely produced package. The advantages to BF et al of just selling through the website is that it bypasses all the complicated money collection mechanisms that are normally in play - no bar code or anything - it bypasses the "middlemen" record companies too, who'd want to take their cut. For someone of BF's stature, he can do that - people will go to his website to find his latest release rather than elsewhere. It makes sense in a way: how many new fans will he pick up from being generally available across all the stores? Better to reduce his costs and sell through the website perhaps? Anyway, I could be totally wrong but it's just a thought. I will make just one final point, which I thought recently - I think it's pretty dammed impressive he's doing these concerts in the US and across Europe etc - i.e. 2 nights in NY? There aren't many stars, particularly of his generation, able to do that still I'd have thought? Andrew > From: shearerandrew@hotmail.com > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 11:49:50 +0000 > > Well I guess you could be right Tracy, particularly as he's busy > touring at the moment, but commercially, I would've thought (as I > suspect the products will be expensive) the time of release would be around Christmas? > > From memory I thought Steve Wilson had completed the 5.1 mixes of the > first album etc and there was some mixing of the BF Albert Hall gig > circa Another Time, Another Place? But there are others here more in > the know, as to whether > theyre allowed to say, is another matter :) > > > > Andrew > > > www.andrewshearer.com > Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic > > > > From: tracyep@hotmail.com > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. > > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 11:40:57 +0000 > > > > Sorry didn't finish that email.. > > > > Personally, I would release them next year as it will be the 45th > anniversary > > of the first album. > > > > > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 12:21:11 +0100 > > > From: mark@olivetreepl.plus.com > > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > > Subject: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. > > > > > > Sorry to bring the conversation back to Roxy Music, but... > > > > > > It's now August: no signs or any press releases whatsoever > > > regarding the first two albums ( and book....) that should have been out in May. > > > > > > Is it a case of a summer break disturbing the production line ? > > > > > > In what has been a pretty bad year all round, I was hoping these > > > releases would lift my spirits. > > > > > > Looks like there's fat chance of tha happening: perhaps someone in > > > the know can give us an update? > > > > > > > > > Mactheaxe > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _____ > > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _____ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe > avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 12:21:11 +0100 From: olivetreepl+mark Subject: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. Sorry to bring the conversation back to Roxy Music, but... It's now August: no signs or any press releases whatsoever regarding the first two albums ( and book....) that should have been out in May. Is it a case of a summer break disturbing the production line ? In what has been a pretty bad year all round, I was hoping these releases would lift my spirits. Looks like there's fat chance of tha happening: perhaps someone in the know can give us an update? Mactheaxe ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 15:05:50 +0100 From: Evans Richard Subject: Re: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. Andrew et al I have said this before but I will say it again. Its inexplicable how the legacy of Roxy Music has been managed. They were/are still one of the most influential bands of all time. It appears to me that whoever is in charge doesn't have a Scooby Doo about the real impact of the band and the idea of good timing. The first album is widely valued as superb and the start of a new era in pop/rock while FYP is held up as being their finest piece of work - They were released in 1972 and 1973 and have missed just about every anniversary you could think of which would have provided a great hook for the promotional work. They have both disappeared from view to the chagrin of Roxy and music fans everywhere. What are we going to get instead? - BF at the RAH - that had about as much impact as Roy Hodgson as England manager. But hey we thought the 2001 tour would never happen! R xxxxx On 5 Aug 2016, at 13:46, Andrew Shearer wrote: > The other thing I wonder is if the hoped for albums will just be on sale via > BF's website. I decided to treat myself to the Live 2015 CD the week before > last and I have to say that was a very positive experience. For someone who > didn't go to those concerts I'm surprised how much I've enjoyed listening to > the CDs as much as I have and, in addition, it's a nicely produced package. > > The advantages to BF et al of just selling through the website is that it > bypasses all the complicated money collection mechanisms that are normally in > play - no bar code or anything - it bypasses the "middlemen" record companies > too, who'd want to take their cut. > > For someone of BF's stature, he can do that - people will go to his website to > find his latest release rather than elsewhere. It makes sense in a way: how > many new fans will he pick up from being generally available across all the > stores? Better to reduce his costs and sell through the website perhaps? > Anyway, I could be totally wrong but it's just a thought. I will make just one > final point, which I thought recently - I think it's pretty dammed impressive > he's doing these concerts in the US and across Europe etc - i.e. 2 nights in > NY? There aren't many stars, particularly of his generation, able to do that > still I'd have thought? > > > > Andrew > > > >> From: shearerandrew@hotmail.com >> To: avalon@smoe.org >> Subject: RE: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. >> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 11:49:50 +0000 >> >> Well I guess you could be right Tracy, particularly as he's busy touring at >> the moment, but commercially, I would've thought (as I suspect the products >> will be expensive) the time of release would be around Christmas? >> >> From memory I thought Steve Wilson had completed the 5.1 mixes of the first >> album etc and there was some mixing of the BF Albert Hall gig circa Another >> Time, Another Place? But there are others here more in the know, as to > whether >> theyre allowed to say, is another matter :) >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> www.andrewshearer.com >> Twitter & Facebook: @shearermusic >> >> >>> From: tracyep@hotmail.com >>> To: avalon@smoe.org >>> Subject: RE: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. >>> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 11:40:57 +0000 >>> >>> Sorry didn't finish that email.. >>> >>> Personally, I would release them next year as it will be the 45th >> anniversary >>> of the first album. >>> >>>> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 12:21:11 +0100 >>>> From: mark@olivetreepl.plus.com >>>> To: avalon@smoe.org >>>> Subject: [AVALON] Meanwhile............. >>>> >>>> Sorry to bring the conversation back to Roxy Music, but... >>>> >>>> It's now August: no signs or any press releases whatsoever regarding >>>> the first two albums ( and book....) that should have been out in May. >>>> >>>> Is it a case of a summer break disturbing the production line ? >>>> >>>> In what has been a pretty bad year all round, I was hoping these >>>> releases would lift my spirits. >>>> >>>> Looks like there's fat chance of tha happening: perhaps someone in the >>>> know can give us an update? >>>> >>>> >>>> Mactheaxe >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >>> >>> >>> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V15 #1086 ****************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest