From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V15 #1006 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, December 1 2015 Volume 15 : Number 1006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? [Evans Richard ] Re: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? [Evans Richard ] RE: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? [Andrew Shearer ] Re: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? [Heather Propes ] Re: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? [Heather Propes ] Re: RE: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? [kwil ] Re: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? [Heather Propes ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 17:02:58 +0000 From: Evans Richard Subject: Re: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? Agree totally Heather - I am looking forward to the new Bowie album - its an example of an artist exploring new musicians and new ways of working Artists of any genre can keep going and pushing their work in new directions - thats what being an artist is about - I know people hate Kanye and I think he is a bit of a twat but his music is always a bit of a shock - Yeezus is a work of art in its own way and pushes many boundaries. And his live shows borrow many things from opera and architecture. I just wish Roxy/ Ferry would do the same - I believe there is one great last album waiting to get out On 1 Dec 2015, at 16:42, Heather Propes wrote: > you are very welcome Richard, and merry Christmas! I think there are many precedents for artists working well into their own age. We always think about rock stars like Mick Jagger. But also think about artists like Matisse and Picasso. Matisse just made cut-outs when he was older. Not the splendor of his peak years, but more of a simple, abstracted version of himself, and it worked. Any artist is capable of continuing their career indefinitely. And packaging the old stuff is a must - we want to turn on the kids. I wish the Charles Schulz creative team had thought harder before releasing that last "Peanuts" movie, what a dud. > > Heather > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Evans Richard wrote: > Thanks H > > xxxx > > On 1 Dec 2015, at 15:02, Heather Propes wrote: > >> Hi again, >> >> I agree with Richard here on many points. I think that Bryan needs a better, more curatorially-minded staff which will polish up the CDs and release them as nice box sets, similar to what Bowie is doing recently with the Five Years sets. Well-written liner notes and CD art are a wonderful opportunity to breathe new life into the old songs - like buying a handsome new art book on Manet or any painter. The commentary and theory makes it new again. >> >> And I also saw the ATGB tour and thought it was wonderful, beautifully crafted and the mood was just right. So Bryan still "has it" for sure! And he's looking good at this age! That interview with Noel Fielding really proved that. >> >> Heather >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Evans Richard wrote: >> All good knockabout stuff - I couldn't resist joining in >> >> Firstly >> >> I think the one thing that concerns me about Roxy/Ferry, their catalogues and future plans is that whoever is managing/advising has no idea about what could be done to secure the band's (and solo) place in rock history. We would all agree I think that Roxy and Ferry were pushing creative boundaries between 1972 and 1975. Personally I would argue that Avalon fits into that as well. >> >> Anyone working for Roxy/Ferry and worth their salt would look at what artists like Bowie, Dylan and Bruce have done with re-issues and such and realised that not only is there money to be made but that projects like The Bootleg Series, The Station to Station boxed set and the new Ties That Bind set only enhance the band's reputation. >> >> The first album is now nearly 44 years old - great anniversary - 50, 45, 40, 35 always would work better - doesn't take a genius to work it out. The fact that a fan had to suggest it sums up the whole thing really. Management doesn't exist in this case. >> >> Secondly >> >> There has been a lot of talk about Ferry's recorded output and toring. I think its amazing he still gets round and puts on pretty good shows. I was a little disappointed in the Avonmore show - a little too polished for me but a great set list nonetheless. Although I didn't see the Jazz tour - i reckon it would have been pretty good. I love the ATGB shows and the Dylanesque tour too. >> >> In terms of recorded output, I think I am with everyone else on this.There have been brilliant nuggets since 1975 in both Roxy's and Ferry's work but a completely strong piece of work has been lacking, Avalon excepted IMHO. >> >> I am definitely in the Roxy camp rather than in the Ferry tent but I would still say that we should let them get on with it as best we can and debate as hard as we like. >> >> What someone needs to do is get a grip of their legacy. >> >> R >> >> >> >> >> On 1 Dec 2015, at 02:33, Chris Turner wrote: >> >> > Wow. 50% of Queen in an aircraft hanger in Winnipeg. I bet that really evokes >> > the spirit of Freddie Mercury. >> > I'm afraid for me that's a bit like watching The Ernie Wise Show after Eric >> > died.B >> > I do like Queen, just for the record, even though Brian May nearly killed me >> > once. >> > Chris >> > >> > >> > From: Terry >> > To: 'Chris Turner' >> > Cc: avalon@smoe.org >> > Sent: Monday, 30 November 2015, 22:46 >> > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? >> > >> > Well if you call touring in a band doing this sort of tour being a failure. >> > Plus there were a few sold out arena dates in the UK. >> > >> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 11:27:24 +0000 From: Evans Richard Subject: Re: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? All good knockabout stuff - I couldn't resist joining in Firstly I think the one thing that concerns me about Roxy/Ferry, their catalogues and future plans is that whoever is managing/advising has no idea about what could be done to secure the band's (and solo) place in rock history. We would all agree I think that Roxy and Ferry were pushing creative boundaries between 1972 and 1975. Personally I would argue that Avalon fits into that as well. Anyone working for Roxy/Ferry and worth their salt would look at what artists like Bowie, Dylan and Bruce have done with re-issues and such and realised that not only is there money to be made but that projects like The Bootleg Series, The Station to Station boxed set and the new Ties That Bind set only enhance the band's reputation. The first album is now nearly 44 years old - great anniversary - 50, 45, 40, 35 always would work better - doesn't take a genius to work it out. The fact that a fan had to suggest it sums up the whole thing really. Management doesn't exist in this case. Secondly There has been a lot of talk about Ferry's recorded output and toring. I think its amazing he still gets round and puts on pretty good shows. I was a little disappointed in the Avonmore show - a little too polished for me but a great set list nonetheless. Although I didn't see the Jazz tour - i reckon it would have been pretty good. I love the ATGB shows and the Dylanesque tour too. In terms of recorded output, I think I am with everyone else on this.There have been brilliant nuggets since 1975 in both Roxy's and Ferry's work but a completely strong piece of work has been lacking, Avalon excepted IMHO. I am definitely in the Roxy camp rather than in the Ferry tent but I would still say that we should let them get on with it as best we can and debate as hard as we like. What someone needs to do is get a grip of their legacy. R On 1 Dec 2015, at 02:33, Chris Turner wrote: > Wow. 50% of Queen in an aircraft hanger in Winnipeg. I bet that really evokes > the spirit of Freddie Mercury. > I'm afraid for me that's a bit like watching The Ernie Wise Show after Eric > died.B > I do like Queen, just for the record, even though Brian May nearly killed me > once. > Chris > > > From: Terry > To: 'Chris Turner' > Cc: avalon@smoe.org > Sent: Monday, 30 November 2015, 22:46 > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? > > Well if you call touring in a band doing this sort of tour being a failure. > Plus there were a few sold out arena dates in the UK. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 19:49:07 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? Well as someone said in the last few posts of course it all does come down to taste. For me, the only song on Boys and Girls that I go back to time and time again is Boys and Girls and really that seems to be true for me of many of Ferry's albums - I feel there are little nuggets (as someone else said) to be found on all of them going right back to the beginning of his career but I rarely play a BF album all the way through. Something I think is telling in his songs more recently it seems to me is that he's perhaps being more "honest" - there's less of a veneer / obfuscation. There also seems to be less of a "glamourisation" of glamour: "You Can Dance" and the accompanying video etc I found a bit embarrassing for a man of his age but to be honest "Reason or Rhyme" is something that I frequently have on repeat play. Likewise "I Thought" and "Soldier of Fortune". These types of songs in my opinion are archetypal Ferry and why I'm a fan but I learned many, many years ago, thanks to this list, that that opinion can be vastly different from other fans (and I'm all the wiser / humbler for it). If fans have such varying ideas you can imagine what it's like trying to get through to non-fans. I didn't buy The Jazz Age but it always brings a smile to my face when I hear Love Is The Drug (or another track from the album) playing in Nero's when I have a coffee. With the revenue of album sales generally going down, a lucrative avenue can be synchronisation (getting your tracks in films and advertising) so I think although the "fans" might not like it, it was potentially a great move for Ferry to have managed to get on The Great Gatsby's soundtrack (and it fitted perfectly too considering the book is one of Ferry's favourites; good exposure and press too). Also I have to say, having had a fairly stressful (and expensive) two hours prior to the gig, having broken down on Shepherd's Bush Green in the middle of short-tempered, impatient traffic, I didn't expect to come out of the Philippines Concert in Nov 2013 thinking it was one of the best BF concerts I've been to (and that's after discovering I'd also picked up a parking ticket when I got back to my car). The gig ticket prices are generally too expensive for me now so I forego that luxury (and gamble) but I don't think he is spent force yet, indeed I don't think anyone from Roxy is. And a few Ferry missteps notwithstanding (i,e why hasn't Love War been on an album? But again that's personal taste coming in). I wouldn't be surprised to see a Cohen-like second coming possibly in the guise of Roxy. I drafted the above on Sunday but didn't have time to finish it - those who have posted more recently I'm not ignoring your posts but I've got to get on and do some work! :) But the comments about box sets etc I full agree with. A friend told me recently that Dylan had released a box set of demos and different versions of songs from one album? How some of us would love to hear some of the embryonic Roxy and BF stuff. But then the returns on Dylan's product and Roxy / BF's product might be vastly different and therefore not financially viable. Best wishes to all. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 10:02:24 -0500 From: Heather Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? Hi again, I agree with Richard here on many points. I think that Bryan needs a better, more curatorially-minded staff which will polish up the CDs and release them as nice box sets, similar to what Bowie is doing recently with the Five Years sets. Well-written liner notes and CD art are a wonderful opportunity to breathe new life into the old songs - like buying a handsome new art book on Manet or any painter. The commentary and theory makes it new again. And I also saw the ATGB tour and thought it was wonderful, beautifully crafted and the mood was just right. So Bryan still "has it" for sure! And he's looking good at this age! That interview with Noel Fielding really proved that. Heather On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Evans Richard wrote: > All good knockabout stuff - I couldn't resist joining in > > Firstly > > I think the one thing that concerns me about Roxy/Ferry, their catalogues > and future plans is that whoever is managing/advising has no idea about > what could be done to secure the band's (and solo) place in rock history. > We would all agree I think that Roxy and Ferry were pushing creative > boundaries between 1972 and 1975. Personally I would argue that Avalon fits > into that as well. > > Anyone working for Roxy/Ferry and worth their salt would look at what > artists like Bowie, Dylan and Bruce have done with re-issues and such and > realised that not only is there money to be made but that projects like The > Bootleg Series, The Station to Station boxed set and the new Ties That Bind > set only enhance the band's reputation. > > The first album is now nearly 44 years old - great anniversary - 50, 45, > 40, 35 always would work better - doesn't take a genius to work it out. The > fact that a fan had to suggest it sums up the whole thing really. > Management doesn't exist in this case. > > Secondly > > There has been a lot of talk about Ferry's recorded output and toring. I > think its amazing he still gets round and puts on pretty good shows. I was > a little disappointed in the Avonmore show - a little too polished for me > but a great set list nonetheless. Although I didn't see the Jazz tour - i > reckon it would have been pretty good. I love the ATGB shows and the > Dylanesque tour too. > > In terms of recorded output, I think I am with everyone else on this.There > have been brilliant nuggets since 1975 in both Roxy's and Ferry's work but > a completely strong piece of work has been lacking, Avalon excepted IMHO. > > I am definitely in the Roxy camp rather than in the Ferry tent but I would > still say that we should let them get on with it as best we can and debate > as hard as we like. > > What someone needs to do is get a grip of their legacy. > > R > > > > > On 1 Dec 2015, at 02:33, Chris Turner wrote: > > > Wow. 50% of Queen in an aircraft hanger in Winnipeg. I bet that really > evokes > > the spirit of Freddie Mercury. > > I'm afraid for me that's a bit like watching The Ernie Wise Show after > Eric > > died.B > > I do like Queen, just for the record, even though Brian May nearly > killed me > > once. > > Chris > > > > > > From: Terry > > To: 'Chris Turner' > > Cc: avalon@smoe.org > > Sent: Monday, 30 November 2015, 22:46 > > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? > > > > Well if you call touring in a band doing this sort of tour being a > failure. > > Plus there were a few sold out arena dates in the UK. > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 11:42:54 -0500 From: Heather Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? you are very welcome Richard, and merry Christmas! I think there are many precedents for artists working well into their own age. We always think about rock stars like Mick Jagger. But also think about artists like Matisse and Picasso. Matisse just made cut-outs when he was older. Not the splendor of his peak years, but more of a simple, abstracted version of himself, and it worked. Any artist is capable of continuing their career indefinitely. And packaging the old stuff is a must - we want to turn on the kids. I wish the Charles Schulz creative team had thought harder before releasing that last "Peanuts" movie, what a dud. Heather On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Evans Richard wrote: > Thanks H > > xxxx > > On 1 Dec 2015, at 15:02, Heather Propes wrote: > > Hi again, > > I agree with Richard here on many points. I think that Bryan needs a > better, more curatorially-minded staff which will polish up the CDs and > release them as nice box sets, similar to what Bowie is doing recently with > the Five Years sets. Well-written liner notes and CD art are a wonderful > opportunity to breathe new life into the old songs - like buying a handsome > new art book on Manet or any painter. The commentary and theory makes it > new again. > > And I also saw the ATGB tour and thought it was wonderful, beautifully > crafted and the mood was just right. So Bryan still "has it" for sure! And > he's looking good at this age! That interview with Noel Fielding really > proved that. > > Heather > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Evans Richard wrote: > >> All good knockabout stuff - I couldn't resist joining in >> >> Firstly >> >> I think the one thing that concerns me about Roxy/Ferry, their catalogues >> and future plans is that whoever is managing/advising has no idea about >> what could be done to secure the band's (and solo) place in rock history. >> We would all agree I think that Roxy and Ferry were pushing creative >> boundaries between 1972 and 1975. Personally I would argue that Avalon fits >> into that as well. >> >> Anyone working for Roxy/Ferry and worth their salt would look at what >> artists like Bowie, Dylan and Bruce have done with re-issues and such and >> realised that not only is there money to be made but that projects like The >> Bootleg Series, The Station to Station boxed set and the new Ties That Bind >> set only enhance the band's reputation. >> >> The first album is now nearly 44 years old - great anniversary - 50, 45, >> 40, 35 always would work better - doesn't take a genius to work it out. The >> fact that a fan had to suggest it sums up the whole thing really. >> Management doesn't exist in this case. >> >> Secondly >> >> There has been a lot of talk about Ferry's recorded output and toring. I >> think its amazing he still gets round and puts on pretty good shows. I was >> a little disappointed in the Avonmore show - a little too polished for me >> but a great set list nonetheless. Although I didn't see the Jazz tour - i >> reckon it would have been pretty good. I love the ATGB shows and the >> Dylanesque tour too. >> >> In terms of recorded output, I think I am with everyone else on >> this.There have been brilliant nuggets since 1975 in both Roxy's and >> Ferry's work but a completely strong piece of work has been lacking, Avalon >> excepted IMHO. >> >> I am definitely in the Roxy camp rather than in the Ferry tent but I >> would still say that we should let them get on with it as best we can and >> debate as hard as we like. >> >> What someone needs to do is get a grip of their legacy. >> >> R >> >> >> >> >> On 1 Dec 2015, at 02:33, Chris Turner wrote: >> >> > Wow. 50% of Queen in an aircraft hanger in Winnipeg. I bet that really >> evokes >> > the spirit of Freddie Mercury. >> > I'm afraid for me that's a bit like watching The Ernie Wise Show after >> Eric >> > died.B >> > I do like Queen, just for the record, even though Brian May nearly >> killed me >> > once. >> > Chris >> > >> > >> > From: Terry >> > To: 'Chris Turner' >> > Cc: avalon@smoe.org >> > Sent: Monday, 30 November 2015, 22:46 >> > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? >> > >> > Well if you call touring in a band doing this sort of tour being a >> failure. >> > Plus there were a few sold out arena dates in the UK. >> > >> > >> > >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 18:02:00 -0500 From: kwil Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? Tours are where the money is these days. The likes of Madonna and the Stones might release albums but it's the bums on seats that pay their mortgages. As to Ferry, I think he's doing alright. Not as good as he used to be maybe but still the odd couple of gems on each album. About standard for performers of his age I'd say. Genuine question, Chris: If you think he's had his day, why dont you move on? J Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Monday, 30 November 2015, Terry wrote: Well if you call touring in a band doing this sort of tour being a failure. Plus there were a few sold out arena dates in the UK. North American Tour Dates 6/19 - Chicago, IL, United Center 6/21 - Winnipeg, MB, MTS Centre 6/23 - Saskatoon, SK, Credit Union Centre 6/24 - Edmonton, AB, Rexall Place 6/26 - Calgary, AB, Scotiabank Saddledome - Buy Tickets 6/28 - Vancouver, BC, Pepsi Live at Rogers Arena - Buy Tickets 7/1 - San Jose, CA, SAP Center - Buy Tickets 7/3 - Los Angeles, CA, The Forum - Buy Tickets 7/5 - Las Vegas, NV, The Joint - Buy Tickets 7/6 - Las Vegas, NV, The Joint - Buy Tickets 7/9 - Houston, TX, Toyota Center - Buy Tickets 7/10 - Dallas, TX, American Airlines Center - Buy Tickets 7/12 - Detroit, MI, The Palace of Auburn Hills - - Buy Tickets 7/13 - Toronto, ON, Air Canada Centre - Buy Tickets 7/14 - Montreal, QC, Bell Centre - Buy Tickets 7/16 - Philadelphia, PA, Wells Fargo Center - Buy Tickets 7/17 - New York, NY, Madison Square Garden - Buy Tickets 7/19 - Uncasville, CT, Mohegan Sun Arena - - Buy Tickets 7/20 - Washington, DC, Merriweather Post Pavilion - Buy Tickets 7/22 - Boston, MA, TD Garden - Buy Tickets 7/23 - E. Rutherford, NJ, Izod Center - Buy Tickets 7/25 - Uncasville, CT, Mohegan Sun Arena - Buy Tickets 7/26 - Atlantic City, NJ, Boardwalk Hall - Buy Tickets 7/28 - Toronto, ON, Air Canada Centre - Buy Tickets Asian Tour Dates 8/14 - Seoul, Olympic Park, Super Sonic 2014 Festival - On Sale TBC 8/16 - - Osaka, Maishima special site, Summer Sonic 2014 Festival, Ocean Stage - Buy Tickets 8/17 - Tokyo, QVC Marine Field/Makuhari Messe, Summer Sonic 2014 Festival, Marine Stage - Buy Tickets Australian Tour Dates 8/22 - Perth, Perth Arena - Buy Tickets 8/26 & 27 - Sydney, Allphones Arena - Buy Tickets 8/29 & 30 - Melbourne, Rod Laver Arena - Buy Tickets 9/1 - Brisbane, Brisbane Entertainment Centre - Buy Tickets New Zealand Tour Dates 9/3 - Auckland, Vector Arena - Buy Tickets 9/4 - Auckland, Vector Arena - - Buy Tickets From: Chris Turner [mailto:roxyrama@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 30 November 2015 19:38 To: Terry Subject: Re: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? Coincidentally, Brian May's career ended around 1991 too. Chris _____ From: Terry > To: 'Chris Turner' > Sent: Monday, 30 November 2015, 11:23 Subject: RE: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? Brian May was on Loose Women the other week; not sure how many Queen fans threw their record collection away? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 18:56:50 -0500 From: Heather Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? I know a lot of people really love Kanye, but I didn't really like what I heard of the album. Still, I probably didn't spend enough time with it. As far as new(ish) artists go, my favorite would be alt-j. I had the honor of seeing them in Philadelphia 2 years ago. 4 young guys from Leeds, and what an amazing sound. cheers! Heather On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Evans Richard wrote: > Agree totally Heather - I am looking forward to the new Bowie album - its > an example of an artist exploring new musicians and new ways of working > > Artists of any genre can keep going and pushing their work in new > directions - thats what being an artist is about - I know people hate Kanye > and I think he is a bit of a twat but his music is always a bit of a shock > - Yeezus is a work of art in its own way and pushes many boundaries. And > his live shows borrow many things from opera and architecture. > > I just wish Roxy/ Ferry would do the same - I believe there is one great > last album waiting to get out > > > On 1 Dec 2015, at 16:42, Heather Propes wrote: > > you are very welcome Richard, and merry Christmas! I think there are many > precedents for artists working well into their own age. We always think > about rock stars like Mick Jagger. But also think about artists like > Matisse and Picasso. Matisse just made cut-outs when he was older. Not the > splendor of his peak years, but more of a simple, abstracted version of > himself, and it worked. Any artist is capable of continuing their career > indefinitely. And packaging the old stuff is a must - we want to turn on > the kids. I wish the Charles Schulz creative team had thought harder before > releasing that last "Peanuts" movie, what a dud. > > Heather > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Evans Richard wrote: > >> Thanks H >> >> xxxx >> >> On 1 Dec 2015, at 15:02, Heather Propes wrote: >> >> Hi again, >> >> I agree with Richard here on many points. I think that Bryan needs a >> better, more curatorially-minded staff which will polish up the CDs and >> release them as nice box sets, similar to what Bowie is doing recently with >> the Five Years sets. Well-written liner notes and CD art are a wonderful >> opportunity to breathe new life into the old songs - like buying a handsome >> new art book on Manet or any painter. The commentary and theory makes it >> new again. >> >> And I also saw the ATGB tour and thought it was wonderful, beautifully >> crafted and the mood was just right. So Bryan still "has it" for sure! And >> he's looking good at this age! That interview with Noel Fielding really >> proved that. >> >> Heather >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Evans Richard wrote: >> >>> All good knockabout stuff - I couldn't resist joining in >>> >>> Firstly >>> >>> I think the one thing that concerns me about Roxy/Ferry, their >>> catalogues and future plans is that whoever is managing/advising has no >>> idea about what could be done to secure the band's (and solo) place in rock >>> history. We would all agree I think that Roxy and Ferry were pushing >>> creative boundaries between 1972 and 1975. Personally I would argue that >>> Avalon fits into that as well. >>> >>> Anyone working for Roxy/Ferry and worth their salt would look at what >>> artists like Bowie, Dylan and Bruce have done with re-issues and such and >>> realised that not only is there money to be made but that projects like The >>> Bootleg Series, The Station to Station boxed set and the new Ties That Bind >>> set only enhance the band's reputation. >>> >>> The first album is now nearly 44 years old - great anniversary - 50, 45, >>> 40, 35 always would work better - doesn't take a genius to work it out. The >>> fact that a fan had to suggest it sums up the whole thing really. >>> Management doesn't exist in this case. >>> >>> Secondly >>> >>> There has been a lot of talk about Ferry's recorded output and toring. I >>> think its amazing he still gets round and puts on pretty good shows. I was >>> a little disappointed in the Avonmore show - a little too polished for me >>> but a great set list nonetheless. Although I didn't see the Jazz tour - i >>> reckon it would have been pretty good. I love the ATGB shows and the >>> Dylanesque tour too. >>> >>> In terms of recorded output, I think I am with everyone else on >>> this.There have been brilliant nuggets since 1975 in both Roxy's and >>> Ferry's work but a completely strong piece of work has been lacking, Avalon >>> excepted IMHO. >>> >>> I am definitely in the Roxy camp rather than in the Ferry tent but I >>> would still say that we should let them get on with it as best we can and >>> debate as hard as we like. >>> >>> What someone needs to do is get a grip of their legacy. >>> >>> R >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1 Dec 2015, at 02:33, Chris Turner wrote: >>> >>> > Wow. 50% of Queen in an aircraft hanger in Winnipeg. I bet that really >>> evokes >>> > the spirit of Freddie Mercury. >>> > I'm afraid for me that's a bit like watching The Ernie Wise Show after >>> Eric >>> > died.B >>> > I do like Queen, just for the record, even though Brian May nearly >>> killed me >>> > once. >>> > Chris >>> > >>> > >>> > From: Terry >>> > To: 'Chris Turner' >>> > Cc: avalon@smoe.org >>> > Sent: Monday, 30 November 2015, 22:46 >>> > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Christmas cheer? >>> > >>> > Well if you call touring in a band doing this sort of tour being a >>> failure. >>> > Plus there were a few sold out arena dates in the UK. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V15 #1006 ****************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest