From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V15 #99 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, May 27 2011 Volume 15 : Number 099 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added [Richard Evans ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added [kwil632057@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added [Andrew Shearer ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 10:54:48 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added I see ITIS has been added to the Ferry OLYMPIA tour - that makes it nearly 50% of the OLYMPIA set list comes from recent Roxy tour. Oh and Tara gets to play the drums R ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:23:43 -0400 (EDT) From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added and still only two tunes from the album that the tour is supposed to be promoting. I'd love to know the thinking behind that. J - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Evans To: avalon avalon Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:59 Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added I see ITIS has been added to the Ferry OLYMPIA tour - that makes it nearly 50% of the OLYMPIA set list comes from recent Roxy tour. Oh and Tara gets to play the drums R _________________________________________________________________________ __ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:54:52 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added I don't know how sales are going but if they're not going well perhaps they're trying to tempt people with "favourites" rather than newer, less known material? Don't know, just a thought. Andrew (www.andrewshearer.com) > To: richarde66@mac.com; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added > From: kwil632057@aol.com > Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:23:43 -0400 > > and still only two tunes from the album that the tour is supposed to be > promoting. I'd love to know the thinking behind that. > > J > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Evans > To: avalon avalon > Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:59 > Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added > > > I see ITIS has been added to the Ferry OLYMPIA tour - that makes it > nearly 50% > of the OLYMPIA set list comes from recent Roxy tour. > > Oh and Tara gets to play the drums > > R > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > __ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 08:32:55 -0400 (EDT) From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added Sure, but a barnstorming live version of Reason or Rhyme or Shameless could only help sales.... It's a shame the rather good format of some acoustic versions at the start (ala Frantic tour) hasnt been resurrected as that worked well. - -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Shearer To: avalon avalon Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:57 Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added I don't know how sales are going but if they're not going well perhaps they're trying to tempt people with "favourites" rather than newer, less known material? Don't know, just a thought. Andrew (www.andrewshearer.com) > To: richarde66@mac.com; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added > From: kwil632057@aol.com > Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:23:43 -0400 > > and still only two tunes from the album that the tour is supposed to be > promoting. I'd love to know the thinking behind that. > > J > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Evans > To: avalon avalon > Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:59 > Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added > > > I see ITIS has been added to the Ferry OLYMPIA tour - that makes it > nearly 50% > of the OLYMPIA set list comes from recent Roxy tour. > > Oh and Tara gets to play the drums > > R > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > __ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > _________________________________________________________________________ __ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon _________________________________________________________________________ __ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:53:43 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added It all seems a bit lazy to me 1. Same band minus AM, PM and TGPT - the replacements, CS and AN just come straight of the ROXY/FERRY shelf of musicians - and don't forget Jeff Thrall - he's another one 2. 50% of the set list has just been done on the Roxy tour 3. Visuals and setting are the same 4. Nothing in the set hasn't been played recently with the exception of SOTT, WGO and HOIC and these aren't exactly demanding to play 5. Billed as the OLYMPIA tour - but just two songs - a lack of willingness to work hard to nail some of the better tracks which sounded great on Jools Holland 6. Nothing against Tara but AN is one of the top drummers anywhere anytime - likewise TGPT - just don't understand what he's doing there 7. That said I will probably try and get to the Arboretum gig near Cirencester IMHO someone needs to get a grip of managing Roxy/Ferry properly - the recent ROXY festival tour/OLYMPIA album/ROXY Anniversary tour/Olympia tour schedule is a complete shambles and no way to move forward. If there is a plan - someone needs to rip it up and start again - its a career/job for God's sake If BF is trying to cement his position as one of the great contributors to English contemporary music, he is showing a distinct lack of imagination/effort and is going about it in completely the wrong way. So there!!! On 26 May 2011, at 13:32, kwil632057@aol.com wrote: > Sure, but a barnstorming live version of Reason or Rhyme or Shameless could only help sales.... > > It's a shame the rather good format of some acoustic versions at the start (ala Frantic tour) hasnt been resurrected as that worked well. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Shearer > To: avalon avalon > Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:57 > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added > > > I don't know how sales are going but if they're not going well perhaps they're > trying to tempt people with "favourites" rather than newer, less known > material? Don't know, just a thought. > > > > > > Andrew > > > > (www.andrewshearer.com) > > > > >> To: richarde66@mac.com; avalon@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added >> From: kwil632057@aol.com >> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:23:43 -0400 >> >> and still only two tunes from the album that the tour is supposed to > be >> promoting. I'd love to know the thinking behind that. >> >> J >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Evans >> To: avalon avalon >> Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:59 >> Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added >> >> >> I see ITIS has been added to the Ferry OLYMPIA tour - that makes it >> nearly 50% >> of the OLYMPIA set list comes from recent Roxy tour. >> >> Oh and Tara gets to play the drums >> >> R >> >> > _________________________________________________________________________ > >> __ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> > _________________________________________________________________________ > __ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > __ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:24:12 +0100 From: Martin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added Lazy assumptions on a hardworking sixty five year old performer .. He did a favour to his Roxy mates with stupendous early 2011 shows when he could / should have been showcasing gorgeous new album. .. The set list will definitely morph into more Olympia-centric show .. There's a history of working on new numbers with the band on the road ... Finally try to get a perspective on all the lost songs that he's brought to life in recent Years - Just Like You, Amazona, The In Crowd, The Main Thing, When She walks, ... Reason Or Rhyme is complex and I'd guess takes a bit of rehearsal .. Avalon sadly a forum for bitter Fez bashers .. Without him I know there's nothing ,,, Sent from my iPhone On 26 May 2011, at 13:53, Richard Evans wrote: > It all seems a bit lazy to me > > 1. Same band minus AM, PM and TGPT - the replacements, CS and AN just come straight of the ROXY/FERRY shelf of musicians - and don't forget Jeff Thrall - he's another one > > 2. 50% of the set list has just been done on the Roxy tour > > 3. Visuals and setting are the same > > 4. Nothing in the set hasn't been played recently with the exception of SOTT, WGO and HOIC and these aren't exactly demanding to play > > 5. Billed as the OLYMPIA tour - but just two songs - a lack of willingness to work hard to nail some of the better tracks which sounded great on Jools Holland > > 6. Nothing against Tara but AN is one of the top drummers anywhere anytime - likewise TGPT - just don't understand what he's doing there > > 7. That said I will probably try and get to the Arboretum gig near Cirencester > > > IMHO someone needs to get a grip of managing Roxy/Ferry properly - the recent ROXY festival tour/OLYMPIA album/ROXY Anniversary tour/Olympia tour schedule is a complete shambles and no way to move forward. If there is a plan - someone needs to rip it up and start again - its a career/job for God's sake > > If BF is trying to cement his position as one of the great contributors to English contemporary music, he is showing a distinct lack of imagination/effort and is going about it in completely the wrong way. > > So there!!! > > > On 26 May 2011, at 13:32, kwil632057@aol.com wrote: > >> Sure, but a barnstorming live version of Reason or Rhyme or Shameless could only help sales.... >> >> It's a shame the rather good format of some acoustic versions at the start (ala Frantic tour) hasnt been resurrected as that worked well. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andrew Shearer >> To: avalon avalon >> Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:57 >> Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added >> >> >> I don't know how sales are going but if they're not going well perhaps they're >> trying to tempt people with "favourites" rather than newer, less known >> material? Don't know, just a thought. >> >> >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> (www.andrewshearer.com) >> >> >> >> >>> To: richarde66@mac.com; avalon@smoe.org >>> Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added >>> From: kwil632057@aol.com >>> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:23:43 -0400 >>> >>> and still only two tunes from the album that the tour is supposed to >> be >>> promoting. I'd love to know the thinking behind that. >>> >>> J >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Evans >>> To: avalon avalon >>> Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:59 >>> Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added >>> >>> >>> I see ITIS has been added to the Ferry OLYMPIA tour - that makes it >>> nearly 50% >>> of the OLYMPIA set list comes from recent Roxy tour. >>> >>> Oh and Tara gets to play the drums >>> >>> R >>> >>> >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> >>> __ >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >>> >>> >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> __ >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> __ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 10:27:09 -0400 (EDT) From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added "There's a history of working on new numbers with the band on the road." When? J - -----Original Message----- From: Martin To: Richard Evans CC: kwil632057 ; shearerandrew ; avalon Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:24 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added Lazy assumptions on a hardworking sixty five year old performer .. He did a favour to his Roxy mates with stupendous early 2011 shows when he could / should have been showcasing gorgeous new album. .. The set list will definitely morph into more Olympia-centric show .. There's a history of working on new numbers with the band on the road ... Finally try to get a perspective on all the lost songs that he's brought to life in recent Years - Just Like You, Amazona, The In Crowd, The Main Thing, When She walks, ... Reason Or Rhyme is complex and I'd guess takes a bit of rehearsal .. Avalon sadly a forum for bitter Fez bashers .. Without him I know there's nothing ,,, Sent from my iPhone On 26 May 2011, at 13:53, Richard Evans wrote: > It all seems a bit lazy to me > > 1. Same band minus AM, PM and TGPT - the replacements, CS and AN just come straight of the ROXY/FERRY shelf of musicians - and don't forget Jeff Thrall - he's another one > > 2. 50% of the set list has just been done on the Roxy tour > > 3. Visuals and setting are the same > > 4. Nothing in the set hasn't been played recently with the exception of SOTT, WGO and HOIC and these aren't exactly demanding to play > > 5. Billed as the OLYMPIA tour - but just two songs - a lack of willingness to work hard to nail some of the better tracks which sounded great on Jools Holland > > 6. Nothing against Tara but AN is one of the top drummers anywhere anytime - likewise TGPT - just don't understand what he's doing there > > 7. That said I will probably try and get to the Arboretum gig near Cirencester > > > IMHO someone needs to get a grip of managing Roxy/Ferry properly - the recent ROXY festival tour/OLYMPIA album/ROXY Anniversary tour/Olympia tour schedule is a complete shambles and no way to move forward. If there is a plan - someone needs to rip it up and start again - its a career/job for God's sake > > If BF is trying to cement his position as one of the great contributors to English contemporary music, he is showing a distinct lack of imagination/effort and is going about it in completely the wrong way. > > So there!!! > > > On 26 May 2011, at 13:32, kwil632057@aol.com wrote: > >> Sure, but a barnstorming live version of Reason or Rhyme or Shameless could only help sales.... >> >> It's a shame the rather good format of some acoustic versions at the start (ala Frantic tour) hasnt been resurrected as that worked well. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andrew Shearer >> To: avalon avalon >> Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:57 >> Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added >> >> >> I don't know how sales are going but if they're not going well perhaps they're >> trying to tempt people with "favourites" rather than newer, less known >> material? Don't know, just a thought. >> >> >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> (www.andrewshearer.com) >> >> >> >> >>> To: richarde66@mac.com; avalon@smoe.org >>> Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added >>> From: kwil632057@aol.com >>> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:23:43 -0400 >>> >>> and still only two tunes from the album that the tour is supposed to >> be >>> promoting. I'd love to know the thinking behind that. >>> >>> J >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Evans >>> To: avalon avalon >>> Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:59 >>> Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added >>> >>> >>> I see ITIS has been added to the Ferry OLYMPIA tour - that makes it >>> nearly 50% >>> of the OLYMPIA set list comes from recent Roxy tour. >>> >>> Oh and Tara gets to play the drums >>> >>> R >>> >>> >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> >>> __ >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >>> >>> >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> __ >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> __ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________________ __ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > _________________________________________________________________________ __ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:49:21 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added I guess we'll never know but it seems a bit of long shot to suggest that BF was just doing his Roxy mates a favour. I agree however that the Roxy tour did seem mistimed and inconvenient. I wonder if the Roxy tour wasn't some legal / contractual requirement to pay for the studio time for the album that never was. It's true without him there is nothing but with Roxy I think there was something... Your turn. Andrew (www.andrewshearer.com) > CC: kwil632057@aol.com; shearerandrew@hotmail.com; avalon@smoe.org > From: martinstockman@btinternet.com > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added > Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:24:12 +0100 > To: richarde66@mac.com > > Lazy assumptions on a hardworking sixty five year old performer .. He did a favour to his Roxy mates with stupendous early 2011 shows when he could / should have been showcasing gorgeous new album. .. The set list will definitely morph into more Olympia-centric show .. There's a history of working on new numbers with the band on the road ... Finally try to get a perspective on all the lost songs that he's brought to life in recent Years - Just Like You, Amazona, The In Crowd, The Main Thing, When She walks, ... Reason Or Rhyme is complex and I'd guess takes a bit of rehearsal .. Avalon sadly a forum for bitter Fez bashers .. Without him I know there's nothing ,,, > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 26 May 2011, at 13:53, Richard Evans wrote: > > > It all seems a bit lazy to me > > > > 1. Same band minus AM, PM and TGPT - the replacements, CS and AN just come straight of the ROXY/FERRY shelf of musicians - and don't forget Jeff Thrall - he's another one > > > > 2. 50% of the set list has just been done on the Roxy tour > > > > 3. Visuals and setting are the same > > > > 4. Nothing in the set hasn't been played recently with the exception of SOTT, WGO and HOIC and these aren't exactly demanding to play > > > > 5. Billed as the OLYMPIA tour - but just two songs - a lack of willingness to work hard to nail some of the better tracks which sounded great on Jools Holland > > > > 6. Nothing against Tara but AN is one of the top drummers anywhere anytime - - likewise TGPT - just don't understand what he's doing there > > > > 7. That said I will probably try and get to the Arboretum gig near Cirencester > > > > > > IMHO someone needs to get a grip of managing Roxy/Ferry properly - the recent ROXY festival tour/OLYMPIA album/ROXY Anniversary tour/Olympia tour schedule is a complete shambles and no way to move forward. If there is a plan - - someone needs to rip it up and start again - its a career/job for God's sake > > > > If BF is trying to cement his position as one of the great contributors to English contemporary music, he is showing a distinct lack of imagination/effort and is going about it in completely the wrong way. > > > > So there!!! > > > > > > On 26 May 2011, at 13:32, kwil632057@aol.com wrote: > > > >> Sure, but a barnstorming live version of Reason or Rhyme or Shameless could only help sales.... > >> > >> It's a shame the rather good format of some acoustic versions at the start (ala Frantic tour) hasnt been resurrected as that worked well. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Andrew Shearer > >> To: avalon avalon > >> Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:57 > >> Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added > >> > >> > >> I don't know how sales are going but if they're not going well perhaps they're > >> trying to tempt people with "favourites" rather than newer, less known > >> material? Don't know, just a thought. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Andrew > >> > >> > >> > >> (www.andrewshearer.com) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> To: richarde66@mac.com; avalon@smoe.org > >>> Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added > >>> From: kwil632057@aol.com > >>> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:23:43 -0400 > >>> > >>> and still only two tunes from the album that the tour is supposed to > >> be > >>> promoting. I'd love to know the thinking behind that. > >>> > >>> J > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Richard Evans > >>> To: avalon avalon > >>> Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:59 > >>> Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added > >>> > >>> > >>> I see ITIS has been added to the Ferry OLYMPIA tour - that makes it > >>> nearly 50% > >>> of the OLYMPIA set list comes from recent Roxy tour. > >>> > >>> Oh and Tara gets to play the drums > >>> > >>> R > >>> > >>> > >> _________________________________________________________________________ > >> > >>> __ > >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > >>> > >>> > >> _________________________________________________________________________ > >> __ > >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > >> > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________________ > >> __ > >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > >> > >> > >> ___________________________________________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:54:54 -0400 (EDT) From: deaglerr@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added Finally something closer to my (humble) opinion. We ALL know BF will do the wrong thing, at the wrong time, and pathalogically F up whenever he can. Personally if I were near enough to attend I'd be happy to hear him sing the telephone book. Be glad he's not retired and growing roses (potatoes by the score), or, as they say, pushing up dasies. Regards R Deagle BTW: Tara, drummer, He's got to give the kids SOME shot at a career. - -----Original Message----- From: Martin To: Richard Evans Cc: kwil632057 ; shearerandrew ; avalon Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 10:30 am Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added Lazy assumptions on a hardworking sixty five year old performer .. He did a avour to his Roxy mates with stupendous early 2011 shows when he could / should ave been showcasing gorgeous new album. .. The set list will definitely morph nto more Olympia-centric show .. There's a history of working on new numbers ith the band on the road ... Finally try to get a perspective on all the lost ongs that he's brought to life in recent Years - Just Like You, Amazona, The In rowd, The Main Thing, When She walks, ... Reason Or Rhyme is complex and I'd uess takes a bit of rehearsal .. Avalon sadly a forum for bitter Fez bashers .. ithout him I know there's nothing ,,, Sent from my iPhone On 26 May 2011, at 13:53, Richard Evans wrote: > It all seems a bit lazy to me 1. Same band minus AM, PM and TGPT - the replacements, CS and AN just come traight of the ROXY/FERRY shelf of musicians - and don't forget Jeff Thrall - e's another one 2. 50% of the set list has just been done on the Roxy tour 3. Visuals and setting are the same 4. Nothing in the set hasn't been played recently with the exception of SOTT, GO and HOIC and these aren't exactly demanding to play 5. Billed as the OLYMPIA tour - but just two songs - a lack of willingness to ork hard to nail some of the better tracks which sounded great on Jools Holland 6. Nothing against Tara but AN is one of the top drummers anywhere anytime - ikewise TGPT - just don't understand what he's doing there 7. That said I will probably try and get to the Arboretum gig near Cirencester IMHO someone needs to get a grip of managing Roxy/Ferry properly - the recent OXY festival tour/OLYMPIA album/ROXY Anniversary tour/Olympia tour schedule is complete shambles and no way to move forward. If there is a plan - someone eeds to rip it up and start again - its a career/job for God's sake If BF is trying to cement his position as one of the great contributors to nglish contemporary music, he is showing a distinct lack of imagination/effort nd is going about it in completely the wrong way. So there!!! On 26 May 2011, at 13:32, kwil632057@aol.com wrote: > Sure, but a barnstorming live version of Reason or Rhyme or Shameless could nly help sales.... > > It's a shame the rather good format of some acoustic versions at the start ala Frantic tour) hasnt been resurrected as that worked well. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Shearer > To: avalon avalon > Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:57 > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added > > > I don't know how sales are going but if they're not going well perhaps hey're > trying to tempt people with "favourites" rather than newer, less known > material? Don't know, just a thought. > > > > > > Andrew > > > > (www.andrewshearer.com) > > > > >> To: richarde66@mac.com; avalon@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added >> From: kwil632057@aol.com >> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:23:43 -0400 >> >> and still only two tunes from the album that the tour is supposed to > be >> promoting. I'd love to know the thinking behind that. >> >> J >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Evans >> To: avalon avalon >> Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:59 >> Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added >> >> >> I see ITIS has been added to the Ferry OLYMPIA tour - that makes it >> nearly 50% >> of the OLYMPIA set list comes from recent Roxy tour. >> >> Oh and Tara gets to play the drums >> >> R >> >> > _________________________________________________________________________ > >> __ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> > _________________________________________________________________________ > __ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > __ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon __________________________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:59:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Victor Hastings Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added I'm not accusing Ferry of laziness -- I'm just aghast that he is taking this approach. Hell, I'm sure he is drained mentally and physically. I just hate to see him squander the opportunity to promote what I consider his best work in nearly three decades. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 20:16:19 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Christian_H=2E_S=F6temann=22?= Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added It might be that the current setlist has also to do with a) lack of rehearsal time due to BF's illness and b) Chris Spedding being present for this series of gigs, hence causing a more guitar-rock-oriented set that would naturally tend towards including numbers from TBSB and Dylanesque. Indeed it feels strange to an extent to think of ITIS performed at a Ferry solo performance. However, I am glad that, in whatever guise, he is inclined to perform such an outstanding track. I hope that, as the tour progresses, some more songs (from "Mamouna" and "Olympia") might find their way into the set. For the moment, though, I am happy enough just to learn that he is well enough to deliver the goods in a live setting. I mean, there cannot be anything wrong about getting exposed to "If There Is Something", unless Tin Machine were to reform... Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:29:58 -0400 From: "K B Porter" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added I agree with R Deagle: Mr. Ferry's pathological tendency toward self-sabotage is evidently at work. Whilst the ten year anniversary fete was in full swing I had to stop myself from writing that ten years ago many Americans were happy for BF/RM local fans, but we were a tad jealous, too. It isn't our place to judge BF's proclivities and mis-steps. I consider it a great privilege to listen to his music and a wonderful honor to have seen Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry concerts. - Remaining live shows are limited, enjoy them while you are able because once BF dies there will only remain memories and recorded events. Viva Bryan Ferry! And who knows, Tara just might morph into a real percussionist, after all he's being schooled by some of the best. Bonne chance! KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:43:41 -0400 From: Alan Heaton Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added Ah, Christian... you should definitely know something about great versions of "If There Is Something"... ;) I think it's fantastic that Mr. Ferry is playing it on his solo tour - and with Chris Spedding yet! Cheers, Alan On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM, "Christian H. Svtemann" < c-soetemann@versanet.de> wrote: > It might be that the current setlist has also to do with a) lack of > rehearsal time due to BF's illness and b) Chris Spedding being present for > this series of gigs, hence causing a more guitar-rock-oriented set that > would naturally tend towards including numbers from TBSB and Dylanesque. > > Indeed it feels strange to an extent to think of ITIS performed at a Ferry > solo performance. However, I am glad that, in whatever guise, he is inclined > to perform such an outstanding track. I hope that, as the tour progresses, > some more songs (from "Mamouna" and "Olympia") might find their way into the > set. > > For the moment, though, I am happy enough just to learn that he is well > enough to deliver the goods in a live setting. I mean, there cannot be > anything wrong about getting exposed to "If There Is Something", unless Tin > Machine were to reform... > > Christian > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 06:03:57 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Turner Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added There's no getting around it, Olympia is one of the worst selling UK albums of Bryan Ferry's career. 215 days after release it is yet to receive even Silver BPI certification (indicating sales of 60,000 units, or roughly one for every 1000 people in the UK). And this despite a stellar line-up, about 12 different versions of the album, 126 remixes, an unparalleled media blitz, enough promotional work to literally put him in the infirmary as well as back-to-back tours. Frantic achieved that distinction in 18 days and even the uninspired Dylanesque did so in 25 days. For comparison, Bete Noire went Gold (100,000 units shipped) in only two days back in '87. The only comparable milestone in Ferry's past is Mamouna which hasn't yet passed the Silver threshold after 17 years. We all know what a mess he was in back then. Ferry played a private gig in Milan last night, by the way. That's Oslo on Wednesday, Milan Thursday and Gothenburg on Friday. Punishing when you're 25, let alone 65. Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Shearer To: avalon avalon Cc: Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2011, 12:54 Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Set list ITIS added I don't know how sales are going but if they're not going well perhaps they're trying to tempt people with "favourites" rather than newer, less known material? Don't know, just a thought. Andrew ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:21:36 +0200 From: "danyellow" Subject: [AVALON] one more step to shame Andy the fan club member in Rome posted this links http://www.roxyrama.org/forum/topics/yesterday-bryan-live-in-milan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKkX2Pye68 you know I love Ferry the artist but, about his politics ideas I feel disappointed.... I'm not talking about the "nazi army fashion affair" I'm thinking about him supporting fox hunt ! There are so many problems to discuss and the brave son breaks into the parliament... not talking about war, saving the whales, the global warming or people starving to death... just the rights of silly horse riders to hunt as a sport.... bleahhhh! Well , knowing that Ferry is supporting Berlusconi's candidate makes me feel really bad, I hope he was there just for the money, 'cose a miner's son is not obliged to be a woking class hero, but, at least, to fight for the democratic ideals.... Sorry to bore you kids, but I feel ashamed to have such a prick as prime minister.... I'll never stop to appreciate the music man of course... angry like the fox dan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V15 #99 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest