From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V15 #51 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, February 27 2011 Volume 15 : Number 051 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Who's on 1st bass? [chandla911@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Rhyme or Reason [chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] What's on second? [chandla911@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Rhyme or Reason [Richard Evans ] RE: [AVALON] Oz Tour [Andrew Shearer ] Re: [AVALON] Rhyme or Reason [Richard Evans ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:51:23 -0500 From: chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Who's on 1st bass? The bass player on Letterman is Jerry Meehan, who appears on For Your Pleasure tour 2011 and it seems the BF band also. As has been mentioned here recently, the Bryan Ferry band now is essentially Roxy Music but without TGPT, Manzanera and Mackay. Marcus Miller's association with Ferry goes back a long ways. He appeared with him 26 years ago at Live Aid (sporting a red jacket, seen best at 2.55 here): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIUrLpvE3Rk and much better here in his own clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vL5_QfEG04 Marcus Miller is one brilliant musician and it would be great to see him in Ferry's band again. If only for the direction, it might take BF. Best wishes Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:30:53 -0500 From: chandla911@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Rhyme or Reason I think Bryan feels he can't match the Roxy quality and so settles for mediocre. I just don't feel able to believe that he is into the endless remixes of his material, either. I'm not sure he's in control anymore. Richard - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Evans To: chandla911@aol.com CC: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:23 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Rhyme or Reason Richard An interesting theory with which I have some sympathy although if I was him and thought solo stuff was inferior to Roxy stuff, I'd be making more Roxy albums. My wish is that PM, AM, BE and TGPT salvage/rerecord the 2005/06 material and get Eno to sing on it - I've always thought he had a great voice That would cause a feather or two to fly R On 25 Feb 2011, at 20:43, chandla911@aol.com wrote: > Like many, I've loved recent posts by Richard Evans, Christian, Johnny as they > echo my sentiments also. I also enjoyed Martino's attempt to jump to Ferry's > defence as he will at every turn. "Can people over 60 be ground-breakers? > Tough". Ha! I just so know he was imagining me seething and typing BRIAN > ENO!!!!!! at those words. How restrained was I? > > > > But I have been thinking along the lines of those listed above (and others) > and wondering... > > > I have developed a theory which itself is not ground-breaking, but here > goes... > > > I think that Ferry rates Roxy Music as superior to his own solo work. I think > the music they'd produced thus far for the supposed reunion work just wasn't > exciting enough (in BF's mind) to bear the Roxy name, but he could imagine it > on a solo album as the quality wouldn't need to be so high or attract the same > scrutiny. But some tour dates had been pencilled in, in anticipation of the > album having been released. Rather than miss the opportunity of that money, > they've stuck with the dates and played them for kicks, rather than "the > lovers in the audience", so to speak. I think Ferry feels he can get away with > Olympia and he can. Loyal Ferry fans like Martino think it's a masterpiece. > But it is not a Roxy Music album by any stretch. MS always gets me wrong and > thinks me anti-BF and nothing could be further from the truth, but I do think > Ferry considers his own solo work inferior to Roxy's canon. > > > So I don't think the non-emergence of a new Roxy album has anything to do with > not having the time or not being bothered, but total lack of confidence. > > > What do y'all think? > > > I think the set list at O2 was almost perfect. I missed OOTB and R/R but > otherwise...I think by decade, the potency of all Ferry (inc Roxy) material > seems to have been > 1) 70s > 2) 80s > 3) Noughties > 4) 90s > > > Which is pretty much what the O2 set was, so Ferry played to his strengths > perhaps? > > > Richard Mills > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:31:46 -0500 From: chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] What's on second? The keyboard player is of course Jorja Chalmers. Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:45:09 +0000 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Rhyme or Reason The control bit is interesting because the planning for Roxy/Ferry over the past 18 months is a bit of a mess IMHO R On 26 Feb 2011, at 13:30, chandla911@aol.com wrote: > I think Bryan feels he can't match the Roxy quality and so settles for > mediocre. I just don't feel able to believe that he is into the endless > remixes of his material, either. I'm not sure he's in control anymore. > > > Richard > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Evans > To: chandla911@aol.com > CC: avalon@smoe.org > Sent: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:23 > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Rhyme or Reason > > > Richard > > An interesting theory with which I have some sympathy although if I was him > and > thought solo stuff was inferior to Roxy stuff, I'd be making more Roxy > albums. > > My wish is that PM, AM, BE and TGPT salvage/rerecord the 2005/06 material and > get Eno to sing on it - I've always thought he had a great voice > > That would cause a feather or two to fly > > R > > On 25 Feb 2011, at 20:43, chandla911@aol.com wrote: > >> Like many, I've loved recent posts by Richard Evans, Christian, Johnny as > they >> echo my sentiments also. I also enjoyed Martino's attempt to jump to > Ferry's >> defence as he will at every turn. "Can people over 60 be ground-breakers? >> Tough". Ha! I just so know he was imagining me seething and typing BRIAN >> ENO!!!!!! at those words. How restrained was I? >> >> >> >> But I have been thinking along the lines of those listed above (and others) >> and wondering... >> >> >> I have developed a theory which itself is not ground-breaking, but here >> goes... >> >> >> I think that Ferry rates Roxy Music as superior to his own solo work. I > think >> the music they'd produced thus far for the supposed reunion work just > wasn't >> exciting enough (in BF's mind) to bear the Roxy name, but he could imagine > it >> on a solo album as the quality wouldn't need to be so high or attract the > same >> scrutiny. But some tour dates had been pencilled in, in anticipation of the >> album having been released. Rather than miss the opportunity of that money, >> they've stuck with the dates and played them for kicks, rather than "the >> lovers in the audience", so to speak. I think Ferry feels he can get away > with >> Olympia and he can. Loyal Ferry fans like Martino think it's a masterpiece. >> But it is not a Roxy Music album by any stretch. MS always gets me wrong > and >> thinks me anti-BF and nothing could be further from the truth, but I do > think >> Ferry considers his own solo work inferior to Roxy's canon. >> >> >> So I don't think the non-emergence of a new Roxy album has anything to do > with >> not having the time or not being bothered, but total lack of confidence. >> >> >> What do y'all think? >> >> >> I think the set list at O2 was almost perfect. I missed OOTB and R/R but >> otherwise...I think by decade, the potency of all Ferry (inc Roxy) material >> seems to have been >> 1) 70s >> 2) 80s >> 3) Noughties >> 4) 90s >> >> >> Which is pretty much what the O2 set was, so Ferry played to his strengths >> perhaps? >> >> >> Richard Mills >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:09:00 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Oz Tour Well, I got proved wrong there: I see from VivaRoxyMusic that they're moved Jealous Guy and More Than This to earlier in the set. Andrew (www.andrewshearer.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:23:46 +0000 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Rhyme or Reason Richard An interesting theory with which I have some sympathy although if I was him and thought solo stuff was inferior to Roxy stuff, I'd be making more Roxy albums. My wish is that PM, AM, BE and TGPT salvage/rerecord the 2005/06 material and get Eno to sing on it - I've always thought he had a great voice That would cause a feather or two to fly R On 25 Feb 2011, at 20:43, chandla911@aol.com wrote: > Like many, I've loved recent posts by Richard Evans, Christian, Johnny as they > echo my sentiments also. I also enjoyed Martino's attempt to jump to Ferry's > defence as he will at every turn. "Can people over 60 be ground-breakers? > Tough". Ha! I just so know he was imagining me seething and typing BRIAN > ENO!!!!!! at those words. How restrained was I? > > > > But I have been thinking along the lines of those listed above (and others) > and wondering... > > > I have developed a theory which itself is not ground-breaking, but here > goes... > > > I think that Ferry rates Roxy Music as superior to his own solo work. I think > the music they'd produced thus far for the supposed reunion work just wasn't > exciting enough (in BF's mind) to bear the Roxy name, but he could imagine it > on a solo album as the quality wouldn't need to be so high or attract the same > scrutiny. But some tour dates had been pencilled in, in anticipation of the > album having been released. Rather than miss the opportunity of that money, > they've stuck with the dates and played them for kicks, rather than "the > lovers in the audience", so to speak. I think Ferry feels he can get away with > Olympia and he can. Loyal Ferry fans like Martino think it's a masterpiece. > But it is not a Roxy Music album by any stretch. MS always gets me wrong and > thinks me anti-BF and nothing could be further from the truth, but I do think > Ferry considers his own solo work inferior to Roxy's canon. > > > So I don't think the non-emergence of a new Roxy album has anything to do with > not having the time or not being bothered, but total lack of confidence. > > > What do y'all think? > > > I think the set list at O2 was almost perfect. I missed OOTB and R/R but > otherwise...I think by decade, the potency of all Ferry (inc Roxy) material > seems to have been > 1) 70s > 2) 80s > 3) Noughties > 4) 90s > > > Which is pretty much what the O2 set was, so Ferry played to his strengths > perhaps? > > > Richard Mills > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V15 #51 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest