From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V14 #135 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, October 7 2010 Volume 14 : Number 135 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Nick De Ville talk [chandla911@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Nick De Ville talk [Martin ] RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers [Andrew Shearer ] [AVALON] Chart question [chandla911@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Chart question [Jr ] RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers [Chris Turner ] Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers [Jocelynfiske@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] TGPT [Jocelynfiske@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers [Andrew Shearer Subject: Re: [AVALON] Nick De Ville talk Keep us posted Sent from my iPhone On 6 Oct 2010, at 09:25, chandla911@aol.com wrote: > I got tickets to the talk at O2 next Tuesday, but presently they're both > taken > > > > Richard Mills > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 11:31:20 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers I keep meaning to say that I saw a Twix advert (chocolate for those not in the know) on UK TV the other day being backed by BF's version of Let's Stick Together. I must admit I'm not overly keen on Heatache on Numbers, particularly the chorus. However, I also have to admit I can't get the b***dy song out of my head (particularly thre chorus). And just finally, had a quick scan of the lyrics from Olympia on vivaroxymusic.com, does anyone else think they're a bit more open/honest, a little less allusory than hitherto? Regards, Andrew ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 12:35:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry De Foyle Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers Andrew is stuck for a while: > I keep meaning to say that I saw a > Twix advert (chocolate for those not in > the know) on UK TV the other day being backed by BF's > version of Let's Stick > Together. It's a cover though. A cover of Ferry's cover (a cover-in-law ?) Did anyone else catch 'Love Is The Drug' featuring quite heavily on the BBC's recent back-to-1975 reality show 'The Young Ones' (with Lionel Blair, Liz Smith, Dickie Bird, Derek Jameson, Kenneth Kendall and Sylvia Sims all living in a "1975 house"). Scary ... ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 14:37:37 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers Thanks for that Collette, I find that interesting: does that mean that Ferry / Virgin didn't want to be used in the commercial? Or perhaps that they wanted too much money for it? Or is there some other reason? It seems remarkable that the Twix advertisers were so "stuck (thanks Ivor!)" on LST to do a karaoke version. I know we have some "advertising types" on Avalon, perhaps they could shed some light on what may have happened? Thanks, Andrew > From: coletterobertson@blueyonder.co.uk > To: shearerandrew@hotmail.com > CC: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 13:13:50 +0100 > > It's not actually Bryan doing the vocals on the advert. > > "Black Book Music, Twix Commercial, 2010 > Producer Steve Power > Vocal - Ed Loades (cover of Brian Ferry's 'Lets Stick Together'" > > Cheers, Colette > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Shearer > Sent: 06 October 2010 12:31 > Cc: avalon avalon > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > > I keep meaning to say that I saw a Twix advert (chocolate for those not in > the know) on UK TV the other day being backed by BF's version of Let's Stick > Together. > > > > I must admit I'm not overly keen on Heatache on Numbers, particularly the > chorus. However, I also have to admit I can't get the b***dy song out of my > head (particularly thre chorus). > > > > And just finally, had a quick scan of the lyrics from Olympia on > vivaroxymusic.com, does anyone else think they're a bit more open/honest, a > little less allusory than hitherto? > > > > Regards, > > > > Andrew > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:50:21 -0400 From: jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers >on UK TV the other day being backed by BF's version of Let's Stick ogether. errible session singer's version, so they don't have to pay the origial artists. I must admit I'm not overly keen on Heatache on Numbers, particularly the horus. However, I also have to admit I can't get the b***dy song out of my ead (particularly thre chorus). ame! Help me out here folks, I'm sure the chorus sounds like a Scottish folk song or some such keep singing that bloomin'chorus as "walk in my garden, lie in my glen!" And just finally, had a quick scan of the lyrics from Olympia on ivaroxymusic.com, does anyone else think they're a bit more open/honest, a ittle less allusory than hitherto? till haven't heard Hitherto (is it the B -side of Avalon?). But yes, he's back being wistful and lovelorn and pining (it seems) for 'lost love'. Which is quite bizarre given that in recent interviews he has mentioned how happy he is. ___________________________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:52:49 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers Yes very strange - probably a licensing issue - it is a bit strange cos Twix aren't exactly poor. It could also have been a time issue - not getting clearance in time for the production - people have bright ideas and then things like licensing gets forgotten - cheaper and quicker to get some session guys into a studio for an hours work, if that, to cut the track which is only a snippet of the song - rest assured only the top players play on commercials Richard On 6 Oct 2010, at 15:37, Andrew Shearer wrote: > Thanks for that Collette, I find that interesting: does that mean that Ferry / > Virgin didn't want to be used in the commercial? Or perhaps that they wanted > too much money for it? Or is there some other reason? It seems remarkable that > the Twix advertisers were so "stuck (thanks Ivor!)" on LST to do a karaoke > version. I know we have some "advertising types" on Avalon, perhaps they could > shed some light on what may have happened? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andrew > >> From: coletterobertson@blueyonder.co.uk >> To: shearerandrew@hotmail.com >> CC: avalon@smoe.org >> Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers >> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 13:13:50 +0100 >> >> It's not actually Bryan doing the vocals on the advert. >> >> "Black Book Music, Twix Commercial, 2010 >> Producer Steve Power >> Vocal - Ed Loades (cover of Brian Ferry's 'Lets Stick Together'" >> >> Cheers, Colette >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of >> Andrew Shearer >> Sent: 06 October 2010 12:31 >> Cc: avalon avalon >> Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers >> >> I keep meaning to say that I saw a Twix advert (chocolate for those not in >> the know) on UK TV the other day being backed by BF's version of Let's > Stick >> Together. >> >> >> >> I must admit I'm not overly keen on Heatache on Numbers, particularly the >> chorus. However, I also have to admit I can't get the b***dy song out of my >> head (particularly thre chorus). >> >> >> >> And just finally, had a quick scan of the lyrics from Olympia on >> vivaroxymusic.com, does anyone else think they're a bit more open/honest, a >> little less allusory than hitherto? >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:12:23 -0400 From: jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers I hate to reveal this, but it's par for the course in advertising. It's quicker, easier and cheaper to assemble a group of musicians to bang out 'as close as possible approxmation' of the original version. But you can always hear the difference. And usually the client doen't really care about much more than his budget. He certainly wasn't bothered about the creativity on that commercial. I've worked on Mars before (actually I've felt like that's where I've been working for years!) and they were the same on all their brands. - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Evans To: Andrew Shearer CC: avalon avalon Sent: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:52 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers Yes very strange - probably a licensing issue - it is a bit strange cos Twix ren't exactly poor. It could also have been a time issue - not getting learance in time for the production - people have bright ideas and then things ike licensing gets forgotten - cheaper and quicker to get some session guys nto a studio for an hours work, if that, to cut the track which is only a nippet of the song - rest assured only the top players play on commercials Richard n 6 Oct 2010, at 15:37, Andrew Shearer wrote: > Thanks for that Collette, I find that interesting: does that mean that Ferry / Virgin didn't want to be used in the commercial? Or perhaps that they wanted too much money for it? Or is there some other reason? It seems remarkable that the Twix advertisers were so "stuck (thanks Ivor!)" on LST to do a karaoke version. I know we have some "advertising types" on Avalon, perhaps they could shed some light on what may have happened? Thanks, Andrew > From: coletterobertson@blueyonder.co.uk > To: shearerandrew@hotmail.com > CC: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 13:13:50 +0100 > > It's not actually Bryan doing the vocals on the advert. > > "Black Book Music, Twix Commercial, 2010 > Producer Steve Power > Vocal - Ed Loades (cover of Brian Ferry's 'Lets Stick Together'" > > Cheers, Colette > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Shearer > Sent: 06 October 2010 12:31 > Cc: avalon avalon > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > > I keep meaning to say that I saw a Twix advert (chocolate for those not in > the know) on UK TV the other day being backed by BF's version of Let's Stick > Together. > > > > I must admit I'm not overly keen on Heatache on Numbers, particularly the > chorus. However, I also have to admit I can't get the b***dy song out of my > head (particularly thre chorus). > > > > And just finally, had a quick scan of the lyrics from Olympia on > vivaroxymusic.com, does anyone else think they're a bit more open/honest, a > little less allusory than hitherto? > > > > Regards, > > > > Andrew > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon __________________________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:37:08 -0400 From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] GQ magazine reviews Olympia There's a (surprisingly) small review of Olympia in this months GQ as well as a bizarre photo of Simon Pegg and a model recreating the Country Life cover. GQ cites Olympia as being Ferry's best since Boys and Girls while mentioning the cover as having the 'first cover model Ferry's really interested in since Siren'. One would hope he was interested in Avalon's cover girl. :-) I'm surprised there isn't a bigger Ferry piece in GQ but hey ho. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:44:14 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers Thanks for that insight Major Tom. Makes me think there might be an idea for a quick BF album once Olympia is out of the way. He could get those session musos in and "rework" his old covers: "Right chaps, this is how it's done". Hmm, what to call it? Surely "Under the Covers"? Blimey, I can even see another job for Miss Moss looming (:-) Andrew (Thinking, maybe that's enough caffeine for one day and who embarassingly didn't spot the difference!) > To: richarde66@mac.com; shearerandrew@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 11:12:23 -0400 > From: jocelynfiske@aol.com > CC: avalon@smoe.org > > I hate to reveal this, but it's par for the course in advertising. It's > quicker, easier and cheaper to assemble a group of musicians to bang out 'as > close as possible approxmation' of the original version. But you can always > hear the difference. And usually the client doen't really care about much more > than his budget. He certainly wasn't bothered about the creativity on that > commercial. I've worked on Mars before (actually I've felt like that's where > I've been working for years!) and they were the same on all their brands. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Evans > To: Andrew Shearer > CC: avalon avalon > Sent: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:52 > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > > > Yes very strange - probably a licensing issue - it is a bit strange cos Twix > ren't exactly poor. It could also have been a time issue - not getting > learance in time for the production - people have bright ideas and then things > ike licensing gets forgotten - cheaper and quicker to get some session guys > nto a studio for an hours work, if that, to cut the track which is only a > nippet of the song - rest assured only the top players play on commercials > Richard > > n 6 Oct 2010, at 15:37, Andrew Shearer wrote: > > Thanks for that Collette, I find that interesting: does that mean that Ferry > / > Virgin didn't want to be used in the commercial? Or perhaps that they wanted > too much money for it? Or is there some other reason? It seems remarkable > that > the Twix advertisers were so "stuck (thanks Ivor!)" on LST to do a karaoke > version. I know we have some "advertising types" on Avalon, perhaps they > could > shed some light on what may have happened? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andrew > > > From: coletterobertson@blueyonder.co.uk > > To: shearerandrew@hotmail.com > > CC: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 13:13:50 +0100 > > > > It's not actually Bryan doing the vocals on the advert. > > > > "Black Book Music, Twix Commercial, 2010 > > Producer Steve Power > > Vocal - Ed Loades (cover of Brian Ferry's 'Lets Stick Together'" > > > > Cheers, Colette > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > > Andrew Shearer > > Sent: 06 October 2010 12:31 > > Cc: avalon avalon > > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > > > > I keep meaning to say that I saw a Twix advert (chocolate for those not in > > the know) on UK TV the other day being backed by BF's version of Let's > Stick > > Together. > > > > > > > > I must admit I'm not overly keen on Heatache on Numbers, particularly the > > chorus. However, I also have to admit I can't get the b***dy song out of my > > head (particularly thre chorus). > > > > > > > > And just finally, had a quick scan of the lyrics from Olympia on > > vivaroxymusic.com, does anyone else think they're a bit more open/honest, a > > little less allusory than hitherto? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > __________________________________________________________________________ > o unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 13:13:50 +0100 From: "Colette Robertson" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers It's not actually Bryan doing the vocals on the advert. "Black Book Music, Twix Commercial, 2010 Producer Steve Power Vocal - Ed Loades (cover of Brian Ferry's 'Lets Stick Together'" Cheers, Colette - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Shearer Sent: 06 October 2010 12:31 Cc: avalon avalon Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers I keep meaning to say that I saw a Twix advert (chocolate for those not in the know) on UK TV the other day being backed by BF's version of Let's Stick Together. I must admit I'm not overly keen on Heatache on Numbers, particularly the chorus. However, I also have to admit I can't get the b***dy song out of my head (particularly thre chorus). And just finally, had a quick scan of the lyrics from Olympia on vivaroxymusic.com, does anyone else think they're a bit more open/honest, a little less allusory than hitherto? Regards, Andrew ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 09:57:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Victor Hastings Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers I'd have to go back through the archives, but I believe that years ago Blockbuster Video (?) wanted to use Ferry's version of The "In" Crowd for a commercial, but his asking price was too high. > > Yes very strange - probably a licensing issue - it is a bit strange cos > Twix > > ren't exactly poor. It could also have been a time issue - not getting > > learance in time for the production - people have bright ideas and then > things > > ike licensing gets forgotten - cheaper and quicker to get some session guys > > nto a studio for an hours work, if that, to cut the track which is only a > > nippet of the song - rest assured only the top players play on commercials > > Richard ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 19:29:40 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers I wonder if it's solely a question of money (and logistics) or whether Ferry and the organisation don't want to be associated with some products (thereby perceiving to cheapen their brand) but willing to be associated with others? I don't know where the Debenhams campaign recently in the UK fits into that? Also, I guess it wasn't so long ago the man himself was working for M&S. > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 09:57:24 -0700 > From: victor_hastings@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > To: avalon@smoe.org > > I'd have to go back through the archives, but I believe that years ago > Blockbuster Video (?) wanted to use Ferry's version of The "In" Crowd for a > commercial, but his asking price was too high. > > > > > Yes very strange - probably a licensing issue - it is a bit strange cos > > Twix > > > ren't exactly poor. It could also have been a time issue - not getting > > > learance in time for the production - people have bright ideas and then > > things > > > ike licensing gets forgotten - cheaper and quicker to get some session guys > > > nto a studio for an hours work, if that, to cut the track which is only a > > > nippet of the song - rest assured only the top players play on commercials > > > Richard > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 21:48:05 +0200 From: Han Snijders Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers Jocelyn wrote: > And just finally, had a quick scan of the lyrics from Olympia on > ivaroxymusic.com, does anyone else think they're a bit more open/honest, a > ittle less allusory than hitherto? > till haven't heard Hitherto (is it the B -side of Avalon?). But yes, he's > back > being wistful and lovelorn and pining (it seems) for 'lost love'. Which is > quite bizarre given > that in recent interviews he has mentioned how happy he is. > I think the happy songs will be released in 2020 :) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:46:09 -0400 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers I know I'd rather see him pimping M&S than M&M's - ---- Andrew Shearer wrote: > I wonder if it's solely a question of money (and logistics) or whether Ferry > and the organisation don't want to be associated with some products (thereby > perceiving to cheapen their brand) but willing to be associated with others? I > don't know where the Debenhams campaign recently in the UK fits into that? > Also, I guess it wasn't so long ago the man himself was working for M&S. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 16:25:27 -0400 From: chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Chart question So Adele is number 4 in this week's "singles" charts with Make You Feel My Love. What would Bryan Ferry have to do to match that accomplishment? Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 21:53:00 +0100 From: Jr Subject: Re: [AVALON] Chart question On 6 Oct 2010, at 21:25, chandla911@aol.com wrote: > So Adele is number 4 in this week's "singles" charts with Make You Feel My > Love. > > > > What would Bryan Ferry have to do to match that accomplishment? > > > Richard Mills > > > ______________________________ Time travel ! :) Reecey... ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 22:00:34 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Turner Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers LST was used to advertise Kelloggs Start Cereal a few years back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F-7zeU3P1Y Chris - --- On Wed, 6/10/10, Andrew Shearer wrote: > From: Andrew Shearer > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > To: victor_hasting@yahoo.com, "avalon avalon" > Date: Wednesday, 6 October, 2010, 20:29 > I wonder if it's solely a question of > money (and logistics) or whether Ferry > and the organisation don't want to be associated with some > products (thereby > perceiving to cheapen their brand) but willing to be > associated with others? I > don't know where the Debenhams campaign recently in the UK > fits into that? > Also, I guess it wasn't so long ago the man himself was > working for M&S. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 16:25:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Victor Hastings Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers I don't think in the case of Blockbuster that Ferry was concerned about his brand, just the amount he would receive. > I wonder if it's solely a question of money (and logistics) or whether Ferry > and the organisation don't want to be associated with some products (thereby > perceiving to cheapen their brand) but willing to be associated with others? I > don't know where the Debenhams campaign recently in the UK fits into that? > Also, I guess it wasn't so long ago the man himself was working for M&S. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 23:47:18 +0000 From: Tracy Connell Subject: [AVALON] TGPT I met Paul Thompson tonight! :) He popped along to meet Level 42 at The Sage in Gateshead! He was lovely. Got his autograph. Told him I'd be at some of the concerts in January. He gave me a wave when he drove away :) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:47:11 EDT From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers Ferry has said that the corporate gigs pay for the studio. Likewise it will account for the lack of care taken with the 'Ferry brand' in some of the advertising choices. Just take the filthy lucre and be done with it! My favourite still has to be the press ads/posters for Start Rite children's shoes with a po faced Ferry in green socks (from what I remember) trying to stuff his foot into a tiny red kid's shoe (please resist the temptation for comment here Jonathan!!). When a brief comes in with the job to plug 'style' it's a copywriting/ art directional dream to get Ferry on board, I know the AD on that job was a huge fan. Once upon a time there were two hopes of that happening, no hope and Bob Hope, but this, as they say, is another day. Mad (wo)Man ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:56:24 EDT From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] TGPT He was lovely. Got his autograph. Told him I'd be at some of the concerts in January.He gave me a wave when he drove away :) Bless! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 05:36:10 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers I thought the kids' shoe ad was really cool actually - it's like you had to do a double, even a treble, take because you couldn't believe it was him, staring out at you bemused as you ate your cornflakes. It put him in a different light as it seemed it was out of character and out of the normal environment you associate with him. There was a nice sense of humour about it. You're right when you say "this is another day": I get the impression Ferry is less descerning now and I think appears more frequently in the press, whereas the Start Rite campaign was in the mid to late 90s? > From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:47:11 -0400 > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > To: victor_hasting@yahoo.com; avalon@smoe.org > > Ferry has said that the corporate gigs pay for the studio. Likewise it will > account for the lack of care taken with the 'Ferry brand' in some of the > advertising choices. Just take the filthy lucre and be done with it! > My favourite still has to be the press ads/posters for Start Rite > children's shoes with a po faced Ferry in green socks (from what I remember) trying > to stuff his foot into a tiny red kid's shoe (please resist the temptation > for comment here Jonathan!!). When a brief comes in with the job to plug > 'style' it's a copywriting/ art directional dream to get Ferry on board, I > know the AD on that job was a huge fan. Once upon a time there were two > hopes of that happening, no hope and Bob Hope, but this, as they say, is > another day. > > Mad (wo)Man > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 02:15:30 EDT From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers >There was a nice sense of humour about it. Perhaps his best self-effacing appearance was as the support act at a festival in the Carlsberg don't do ....but if they did, series. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 06:23:18 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers I don't think I got the full measure of that, was it just an advert? I suppose there was the Steve Coogan thing as well. The problem is, sometimes he "plays himself" so well, you don't know if he's in on the joke or not (:-) From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 02:15:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers To: shearerandrew@hotmail.com; avalon@smoe.org >There was a nice sense of humour about it. Perhaps his best self-effacing appearance was as the support act at a festival in the Carlsberg don't do ....but if they did, series. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 02:44:38 -0400 From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers I think there's an important difference between stuff Ferry himself is selling (M&S. Start Rite, Mandarin Oriental) and ads using his music (Kellogg's Start, Twix and Debenhams). The problem with the former is that he is known to be a man with expensive tastes and therefore you got that weird situation with M&S where he was skirting around the issue of whether he wore the brand in interviews (much to the anger of the top dogs in the company at the time). The best he could say was that it was a good British brand to support. Ads using the music aren't a personal endorsement so are probably easier to sign off on. In fact his involvement is likely to be minimal. Interestingly, I can't think of any ads that have used Ferry's image AND the music. J - -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Shearer To: avalon avalon Sent: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 7:23 Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers I don't think I got the full measure of that, was it just an advert? I suppose here was the Steve Coogan thing as well. The problem is, sometimes he "plays imself" so well, you don't know if he's in on the joke or not (:-) From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com ate: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 02:15:30 -0400 ubject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers o: shearerandrew@hotmail.com; avalon@smoe.org There was a nice sense of humour about it. Perhaps his best self-effacing appearance was as the support act at a festival n the Carlsberg don't do ....but if they did, series. __________________________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 07:22:41 +0000 From: Andrew Shearer Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers Yes, I agree they are different, I can't remember how we got on this subject - I'll just blame Jocelyn. The M&S "contradiction" was a little awkward. And though it was great seeing his image plastered down the high street I think it maybe did devalue the "brand" a bit. Ads that include Ferry's image and music? Well apart from selling the records of course (:-) Apart from that, can't think of anything. (I think we've stumbled on a new marketing strategy - use the image of Rod Stewart when selling the BF records) > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 02:44:38 -0400 > From: kwil632057@aol.com > > I think there's an important difference between stuff Ferry himself is selling > (M&S. Start Rite, Mandarin Oriental) and ads using his music (Kellogg's Start, > Twix and Debenhams). > The problem with the former is that he is known to be a man with expensive > tastes and therefore you got that weird situation with M&S where he was > skirting around the issue of whether he wore the brand in interviews (much to > the anger of the top dogs in the company at the time). The best he could say > was that it was a good British brand to support. > Ads using the music aren't a personal endorsement so are probably easier to > sign off on. In fact his involvement is likely to be minimal. > > Interestingly, I can't think of any ads that have used Ferry's image AND the > music. > > J > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Shearer > To: avalon avalon > Sent: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 7:23 > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > > > I don't think I got the full measure of that, was it just an advert? I > suppose > here was the Steve Coogan thing as well. The problem is, sometimes he "plays > imself" so well, you don't know if he's in on the joke or not (:-) > > From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com > ate: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 02:15:30 -0400 > ubject: Re: [AVALON] Twix & Heart Attack in Numbers > o: shearerandrew@hotmail.com; avalon@smoe.org > > > There was a nice sense of humour about it. > > Perhaps his best self-effacing appearance was as the support act at a > festival > n the Carlsberg don't do ....but if they did, series. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > o unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V14 #135 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest