From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V13 #174 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, December 4 2009 Volume 13 : Number 174 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? ["Ivor Canning" ] Re: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener [jocelynfiske@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? ["Ivor Canning" ] Re: [AVALON] Fw: Amused/Amazed [Richard Evans ] Re: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener [Richard Evans ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:47:02 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? Jeff T wants to tell his PAL from his NTSC (yes, I know it doesn't really work as a joke but what's new there, eh ?) > PAL won't play on American TVs. I'd like to get the new release > (even though I have most of the songs on it multiple times, LOL), but I'm > holding off in hopes of a version with a DVD I can play. Actually (as with Jimbo's) the UK disc seems to be in NTSC format anyway (an increasingly common occurrence). But beware. That doesn't automatically mean it will play on a US DVD player - DVDs have a Region Code embedded in them, designed to prevent people buying their discs from other countries where they might be cheaper (that seems perfectly fair doesn't it ?). Of course, many models can be switched to play multiple Region Codes (or to ignore the Region Code altogether) but how easy or difficult this is differs between makes/models (almost a Roxy link right there ...) since many manufacturers don't like to advertise this fact. Hope this helps. Regards, Ivor n.p. Rachid Taha 'Bonjour' - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimbo" To: "Jeff Turner" ; Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? > Hi, > > My copy has the dvd in NTSC. > > All the best, > jimbo. (from Holland) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Turner" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:39 AM > Subject: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? > > >> Has anyone heard whether there will be a US release of the 2-disc version >> of >> the new best-of? The currently listed releases have a PAL-format DVD for >> the >> second disc. PAL won't play on American TVs. I'd like to get the new >> release >> (even though I have most of the songs on it multiple times, LOL), but I'm >> holding off in hopes of a version with a DVD I can play. >> >> Regards, >> Jeff >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. >> http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=xbox+games&scope=cashback&form=MSHYCB&p >> ubl=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Shopping_Giftsforthem_cashback_1x1 >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4656 (20091202) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:40:59 +0000 From: Michael McClelland Subject: [AVALON] Amused/Amazed Hi Martin I believe you do Mark (MacTheAxe) a disservice with your comment. He was referring to the Andy Mackay interview ("More Than This" DVD), wherein Andy actually mouthed the "C-word", quoting Sid Vicious's verbal opinion of Bryan Ferry. So, Ferry was NOT called "the C word" by any of our charming subscribers, certainly not in the manner you have asserted. I was also amused/amazed(?) by the incongruity of Andy Mackay's utterance! Unfortunately you went a little far by deriding Andy's/Phil's Explorers project with the sentence "I'm sure there's a vibrant Explorers discussion group where they can share their pithy pond life observations". I thought that "Avalon" embraced ALL of the Roxy Music family, so still think that discussion of the Explorers is welcome on THIS forum. I am sure you did not really intend to be so cutting in your remarks. Regards Michael McClelland > From: martinstockman@btinternet.com > To: mark@olivetreepl.plus.com > Subject: Re: [Fwd: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener] > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:40:56 +0000 > CC: avalon@smoe.org > > Hmmm. Things getting worse on Avalon. Ferry now called "the C word" by > our charming subscribers. I'm sure there's a vibrant Explorers > discussion group where they can share their pithy pond life > observations. > > That would leave us to count down the days to Alphaville II and > thoughts of spring gigs with the maestro. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2 Dec 2009, at 12:24, mark@olivetreepl.plus.com wrote: > > > Yes! > > > > By the way, wasn't it vaguely unsettling to hear Mr Mackay utter the c > > word? One of those things that I just wouldn't have forecast! > > > > On the subject of the Roxy DVD, by the way, although any new > > interviews or > > releases are welcome, I was a little underwhelmed. It was great to > > see the > > Docklands tracks- but only 3 tracks? Why? They had a camera there > > for the > > whole gig- surely we could have had a DVD with just the gig on? Also, > > although I'm sure that people like John Taylor (Duran Duran) are now > > considered worthy of commenting on Roxy, I's rather have more stuff > > with > > the boys themselves- the PT interviews were particularly interesting. > > > > However, I drwar the line at Bono- no-ine should be subjected to that. > > > > Mactheaxe > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------- Original Message > > ---------------------------- > > > > > > Subject: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener > > From: leesullivanart@aol.com > > Date: Wed, December 2, 2009 11:28 am > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > --- > > --- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I think I agree with Sid. > > > > Lee S > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:07:59 -0500 From: jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener A little uncharitable Martino (and nearing Xmas too) to attack our members for not actually using the c-word themselves, but merely paraphrasing the eloquent Sid Vicious anecdote as told by Mr MacKay, whom I would suggest is far more qualified than anyone here to make a measured comparison. I actually laughed out loud when I read Lee's quip - but then again I can name ALL the members of Roxy Music :-)) Agree with Jeff about the articles, I was particularly dismayed to read the bit that was pretty much an "I can't find it in me to finish the Roxy album confession". Ever the eternal optimist, I believe that Roxy could produce decent new material. Phil and Andy have both done so recently and I have no reason to believe that their writing contributions in harness with Ferry's wouldn't give us at least some memorable tracks. However, I accept that Ferry believes he is well and truly lyrically constipated and just hope he finds a metaphorical sepositary soon to sort him out. I would rather hear instrumental versions of the current material that non at all, or just rehashing of old Ferry material. I can lay money on reworked John Lennon and Elvis tracks (you can keep the Drifters!), with luck Dylan has been exorcised for a while. It just doesn't ignite me with prospective delight - even the remaining Alphaville tracks, unless Love War makes an airing, which I doubt. But I'm more than happy to be surprised. So Martino, put down that arsenic (and old lace) take off your blue stockings and get into the party spirit! Old Nick - -----Original Message----- From: Martino To: mark@olivetreepl.plus.com CC: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:40 Subject: Re: [Fwd: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener] Hmmm. Things getting worse on Avalon. Ferry now called "the C word" by our charming subscribers. I'm sure there's a vibrant Explorers discussion group where they can share their pithy pond life observations. That would leave us to count down the days to Alphaville II and thoughts of spring gigs with the maestro. Sent from my iPhone On 2 Dec 2009, at 12:24, mark@olivetreepl.plus.com wrote: > Yes! > > By the way, wasn't it vaguely unsettling to hear Mr Mackay utter the c > word? One of those things that I just wouldn't have forecast! > > On the subject of the Roxy DVD, by the way, although any new > interviews or > releases are welcome, I was a little underwhelmed. It was great to > see the > Docklands tracks- but only 3 tracks? Why? They had a camera there > for the > whole gig- surely we could have had a DVD with just the gig on? Also, > although I'm sure that people like John Taylor (Duran Duran) are now > considered worthy of commenting on Roxy, I's rather have more stuff > with > the boys themselves- the PT interviews were particularly interesting. > > However, I drwar the line at Bono- no-ine should be subjected to that. > > Mactheaxe > > > > > ---------------------------- Original Message > ---------------------------- > > > Subject: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener > From: leesullivanart@aol.com > Date: Wed, December 2, 2009 11:28 am > To: avalon@smoe.org > ---> ---> - -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I think I agree with Sid. > > Lee S > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:35:46 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? A bleated thought: Of course, all the DVDs might have been created as 'Region Code 0', 'All Regions' or something similar, which would resolve the issue. Can anyone confirm that ? Regards, Ivor n.p. Martineezer Scrooge - 'The Bah Humbug Suite (in C major)' - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivor Canning" To: "Jimbo" ; "Jeff Turner" ; Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? > Jeff T wants to tell his PAL from his NTSC (yes, I know it doesn't really > work as a joke but what's new there, eh ?) > >> PAL won't play on American TVs. I'd like to get the new release >> (even though I have most of the songs on it multiple times, LOL), but I'm >> holding off in hopes of a version with a DVD I can play. > > Actually (as with Jimbo's) the UK disc seems to be in NTSC format anyway > (an increasingly common occurrence). > > But beware. > > That doesn't automatically mean it will play on a US DVD player - DVDs > have a Region Code embedded in them, designed to prevent people buying > their discs from other countries where they might be cheaper (that seems > perfectly fair doesn't it ?). Of course, many models can be switched to > play multiple Region Codes (or to ignore the Region Code altogether) but > how easy or difficult this is differs between makes/models (almost a Roxy > link right there ...) since many manufacturers don't like to advertise > this fact. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, > > Ivor > > n.p. Rachid Taha 'Bonjour' > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimbo" > To: "Jeff Turner" ; > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:48 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? > > >> Hi, >> >> My copy has the dvd in NTSC. >> >> All the best, >> jimbo. (from Holland) >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeff Turner" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:39 AM >> Subject: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? >> >> >>> Has anyone heard whether there will be a US release of the 2-disc >>> version of >>> the new best-of? The currently listed releases have a PAL-format DVD for >>> the >>> second disc. PAL won't play on American TVs. I'd like to get the new >>> release >>> (even though I have most of the songs on it multiple times, LOL), but >>> I'm >>> holding off in hopes of a version with a DVD I can play. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jeff >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. >>> http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=xbox+games&scope=cashback&form=MSHYCB&p >>> ubl=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Shopping_Giftsforthem_cashback_1x1 >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature database 4656 (20091202) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:49:28 +0000 From: Michael McClelland Subject: RE: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? Hello Ivor It is marked as "0 - Freigegeben". Digging deeper, my software tells me that it works in regions 1 to 8, with no RCE protection. Therefore, it will work in the US. Cheers, Michael > From: i.canning@sky.com > To: jimbo@zeelandnet.nl; j_s_turner@hotmail.com; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:35:46 +0000 > > A bleated thought: > > Of course, all the DVDs might have been created as 'Region Code 0', 'All > Regions' or something similar, which would resolve the issue. Can anyone > confirm that ? > > Regards, > > Ivor > > n.p. Martineezer Scrooge - 'The Bah Humbug Suite (in C major)' > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ivor Canning" > To: "Jimbo" ; "Jeff Turner" ; > > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:47 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? > > > > Jeff T wants to tell his PAL from his NTSC (yes, I know it doesn't really > > work as a joke but what's new there, eh ?) > > > >> PAL won't play on American TVs. I'd like to get the new release > >> (even though I have most of the songs on it multiple times, LOL), but I'm > >> holding off in hopes of a version with a DVD I can play. > > > > Actually (as with Jimbo's) the UK disc seems to be in NTSC format anyway > > (an increasingly common occurrence). > > > > But beware. > > > > That doesn't automatically mean it will play on a US DVD player - DVDs > > have a Region Code embedded in them, designed to prevent people buying > > their discs from other countries where they might be cheaper (that seems > > perfectly fair doesn't it ?). Of course, many models can be switched to > > play multiple Region Codes (or to ignore the Region Code altogether) but > > how easy or difficult this is differs between makes/models (almost a Roxy > > link right there ...) since many manufacturers don't like to advertise > > this fact. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ivor > > > > n.p. Rachid Taha 'Bonjour' > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jimbo" > > To: "Jeff Turner" ; > > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> My copy has the dvd in NTSC. > >> > >> All the best, > >> jimbo. (from Holland) > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Jeff Turner" > >> To: > >> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:39 AM > >> Subject: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? > >> > >> > >>> Has anyone heard whether there will be a US release of the 2-disc > >>> version of > >>> the new best-of? The currently listed releases have a PAL-format DVD for > >>> the > >>> second disc. PAL won't play on American TVs. I'd like to get the new > >>> release > >>> (even though I have most of the songs on it multiple times, LOL), but > >>> I'm > >>> holding off in hopes of a version with a DVD I can play. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Jeff > >>> > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>> Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. > >>> http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=xbox+games&scope=cashback&form=MSHYCB&p > >>> ubl=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Shopping_Giftsforthem_cashback_1x1 > >>> > >>> > >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > >>> > >>> > >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > >>> signature database 4656 (20091202) __________ > >>> > >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >>> > >>> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> ___________________________________________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:22:08 +0100 From: "Dick & Petra Verseput" Subject: [AVALON] Fw: Please Vote Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music high into the Dutch Top 2000!! Dear all, Tomorrow is the last day you can VOTE on that Dutch TOP 2000 event. So We ask you for the very last time: Please VOTE and if you voted already MANY THANKS!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick & Petra Verseput To: Avalon Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:29 PM Subject: Please Vote Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music high into the Dutch Top 2000!! Hello All Avalonians, We have a question: Please vote Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music into the Dutch top 2000 for us! What is the Dutch top 2000 you ask? Its a music show on radio and television in Holland at the end of the year since 2000. So this is the 2009 edition. Every year its a big party for music lovers, but we Dutch Avalonians are a bit GRUMPY every year! Highest ever: 662 Roxy Music Avalon! Most of the Dutch people dont like our Bryan to much?? He is or to English or a Show off or a Imitator, a Bloody Aristocrat Bla Bla Bla. So now we want to get him higher into the list! Lets start a offensive and get so much votes as possible! So Vote Vote Vote You, your family and your friends everybody! This is how it works: Go to the website: http://top2000.radio2.nl/stemmen/page/stemmen This is the page to vote. It takes 3 steps. Take for the list a least 5 songs, we say take 5 Roxy/Ferry songs off course but make sure Lets Stick, Love Is The Drug and If There Is Something are in there! Step 1: Fill in Zoek ( search box ) Bryan Ferry take lets stick and press the + Button! Then Roxy Music take Love Is the Drug and again press the + Button! And then ( unbelievable but true ) Take If there Is Something and + it in there! You have to take at least 5 songs to vote! After the five songs go to the button VERDER ( Go On ) Step 2: On this page you can say why you have chosen this songs. But we say dont do that, just fill in your Personal details it is all in Dutchs so : Last name, first name, email address, street with house number, town, country and boy our girl on the bottom of this list. Then Press again Verder ( Go On ) Step 3: You will receive a Email! It says: Bedankt voor het stemmen ( thanks for your vote ) The only thing you have to do now is press on to the link and your ready! http://top2000.radio2.nl/stemmen/page/mijntop2000/WKK8TxyTfpKW2f/bevestigen You can vote untill the 4th off December We know its a lot of work, but if its works you all will give us Dutch Avalonians a lot of fun and a good revenge in 2009! CIAO Petra en Dick ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:20:35 +0000 From: Graham John Fairlie Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? Hi all. These technical issues are a recurring theme. Region coding is a market protection device. Most DVD players can change their region code compatibility using the remote control. The "all styles served here" option is region 0. This DVD is region 0 and hence is playable on any machine from a region code perspective. A machine set to region 0 will play a DVD encoded for any region. The NTSC/PAL question is for the most part a non issue too. Many players autodetect the format and convert automatically. A manual switch on the back or setup option on the video menu are good indicators that it will work. (This is why NTSC, a US/Japanese standard, could be released in the UK). Lesson over...the engineer in me will go back in his box. I too am sorry that the Roxy album seems to have been abandoned - can't fathom the logic. I don't believe ferry would apply different quality criteria to his "original" solo efforts. It doesn't look like he's about to give up either. So what's the problem? Die-hards I'm sure would be willing to risk B#10 on the chance that it would be guff of Mamouna proportions - and would soon get over it if it was. Is it really likely to be less commercial? Nothing they do in the future in any way devalues the brilliance of the past. Bring it on. These days I'm getting bigger kicks from the Cherry Poppin' Daddies and the natural order ought to be restored! (Now that just doesn't sound right). It's that time of year and any day there should be the annual call to arms of the Glasgow/Scottish Avalonians. Sent from my iPhone On 3 Dec 2009, at 11:49, Michael McClelland wrote: > Hello Ivor > > > > It is marked as "0 - Freigegeben". > > > > Digging deeper, my software tells me that it works in regions 1 to > 8, with no > RCE protection. > > > > Therefore, it will work in the US. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Michael > >> From: i.canning@sky.com >> To: jimbo@zeelandnet.nl; j_s_turner@hotmail.com; avalon@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? >> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:35:46 +0000 >> >> A bleated thought: >> >> Of course, all the DVDs might have been created as 'Region Code 0', >> 'All >> Regions' or something similar, which would resolve the issue. Can >> anyone >> confirm that ? >> >> Regards, >> >> Ivor >> >> n.p. Martineezer Scrooge - 'The Bah Humbug Suite (in C major)' >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ivor Canning" >> To: "Jimbo" ; "Jeff Turner" > >; >> >> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:47 AM >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? >> >> >>> Jeff T wants to tell his PAL from his NTSC (yes, I know it doesn't >>> really >>> work as a joke but what's new there, eh ?) >>> >>>> PAL won't play on American TVs. I'd like to get the new release >>>> (even though I have most of the songs on it multiple times, LOL), >>>> but > I'm >>>> holding off in hopes of a version with a DVD I can play. >>> >>> Actually (as with Jimbo's) the UK disc seems to be in NTSC format >>> anyway >>> (an increasingly common occurrence). >>> >>> But beware. >>> >>> That doesn't automatically mean it will play on a US DVD player - >>> DVDs >>> have a Region Code embedded in them, designed to prevent people >>> buying >>> their discs from other countries where they might be cheaper (that >>> seems >>> perfectly fair doesn't it ?). Of course, many models can be >>> switched to >>> play multiple Region Codes (or to ignore the Region Code >>> altogether) but >>> how easy or difficult this is differs between makes/models (almost >>> a Roxy >>> link right there ...) since many manufacturers don't like to >>> advertise >>> this fact. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Ivor >>> >>> n.p. Rachid Taha 'Bonjour' >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jimbo" >>> To: "Jeff Turner" ; >>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:48 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> My copy has the dvd in NTSC. >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> jimbo. (from Holland) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jeff Turner" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:39 AM >>>> Subject: [AVALON] New Ferry best-of...US Release? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Has anyone heard whether there will be a US release of the 2-disc >>>>> version of >>>>> the new best-of? The currently listed releases have a PAL-format >>>>> DVD for >>>>> the >>>>> second disc. PAL won't play on American TVs. I'd like to get the >>>>> new >>>>> release >>>>> (even though I have most of the songs on it multiple times, >>>>> LOL), but >>>>> I'm >>>>> holding off in hopes of a version with a DVD I can play. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Jeff >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. >>>>> > http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=xbox+games&scope=cashback&form=MSHYCB&p >>>>> ubl=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Shopping_Giftsforthem_cashback_1x1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>> signature database 4656 (20091202) __________ >>>>> >>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:06:55 -0000 From: "Mark Longhorn" Subject: [AVALON] Fw: Amused/Amazed Hi Michael- thank you for leaping to my defence! However, being Mactheaxe I will defend myself. I hereby challenge Martino to a duel at 10 paces. I will arm myself only with a copy of 'In Search of Eddie Riff' and he can select any BF album he chooses. I will then kick his sorry a** (damn! I said the 'a' word). Back to the point in question, though, and I am most surprised that this section from AM was not edited out- it makes me think that BF was not involved in the final cut at all. Isn''t this unusual? On the subject of the new RM album, I'd be very surprised if that's all he gets called if it comes to nothing. I am just sorry that the final RM album would then be Avalon as this does not have any resonance with me at all. And I struggle when people tell me it's stylish- I guess it's absolutely not my style! God save the Queen (I mean it maaan!) Mactheaxe - ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael McClelland To: martinstockman@btinternet.com Cc: avalon@smoe.org ; mark@olivetreepl.plus.com Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:40 AM Subject: Amused/Amazed Hi Martin I believe you do Mark (MacTheAxe) a disservice with your comment. He was referring to the Andy Mackay interview ("More Than This" DVD), wherein Andy actually mouthed the "C-word", quoting Sid Vicious's verbal opinion of Bryan Ferry. So, Ferry was NOT called "the C word" by any of our charming subscribers, certainly not in the manner you have asserted. I was also amused/amazed(?) by the incongruity of Andy Mackay's utterance! Unfortunately you went a little far by deriding Andy's/Phil's Explorers project with the sentence "I'm sure there's a vibrant Explorers discussion group where they can share their pithy pond life observations". I thought that "Avalon" embraced ALL of the Roxy Music family, so still think that discussion of the Explorers is welcome on THIS forum. I am sure you did not really intend to be so cutting in your remarks. Regards Michael McClelland > From: martinstockman@btinternet.com > To: mark@olivetreepl.plus.com > Subject: Re: [Fwd: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener] > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:40:56 +0000 > CC: avalon@smoe.org > > Hmmm. Things getting worse on Avalon. Ferry now called "the C word" by > our charming subscribers. I'm sure there's a vibrant Explorers > discussion group where they can share their pithy pond life > observations. > > That would leave us to count down the days to Alphaville II and > thoughts of spring gigs with the maestro. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2 Dec 2009, at 12:24, mark@olivetreepl.plus.com wrote: > > > Yes! > > > > By the way, wasn't it vaguely unsettling to hear Mr Mackay utter the c > > word? One of those things that I just wouldn't have forecast! > > > > On the subject of the Roxy DVD, by the way, although any new > > interviews or > > releases are welcome, I was a little underwhelmed. It was great to > > see the > > Docklands tracks- but only 3 tracks? Why? They had a camera there > > for the > > whole gig- surely we could have had a DVD with just the gig on? Also, > > although I'm sure that people like John Taylor (Duran Duran) are now > > considered worthy of commenting on Roxy, I's rather have more stuff > > with > > the boys themselves- the PT interviews were particularly interesting. > > > > However, I drwar the line at Bono- no-ine should be subjected to that. > > > > Mactheaxe > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------- Original Message > > ---------------------------- > > > > > > Subject: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener > > From: leesullivanart@aol.com > > Date: Wed, December 2, 2009 11:28 am > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > --- > > --- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I think I agree with Sid. > > > > Lee S > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:10:06 +0000 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fw: Amused/Amazed Think ferry would have thought the quote funny and wood have been involved in the final product being the control he is. I think Avalon is great apart from the b-side ferry snuck on (TTYO) and completely ruined the flow and feel That said the number of sid vicious type quotes will go through the roof if the new roxy album is shelved and two million of them will come from me - loudly. Richard Evans On 3 Dec 2009, at 20:06, Mark Longhorn wrote: > Hi Michael- > > thank you for leaping to my defence! However, being Mactheaxe I will > defend > myself. > > I hereby challenge Martino to a duel at 10 paces. I will arm myself > only with > a copy of 'In Search of Eddie Riff' and he can select any BF album > he chooses. > I will then kick his sorry a** (damn! I said the 'a' word). > > Back to the point in question, though, and I am most surprised that > this > section from AM was not edited out- it makes me think that BF was > not involved > in the final cut at all. Isn''t this unusual? > > On the subject of the new RM album, I'd be very surprised if that's > all he > gets called if it comes to nothing. I am just sorry that the final > RM album > would then be Avalon as this does not have any resonance with me at > all. And I > struggle when people tell me it's stylish- I guess it's absolutely > not my > style! > > God save the Queen (I mean it maaan!) > > Mactheaxe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael McClelland > To: martinstockman@btinternet.com > Cc: avalon@smoe.org ; mark@olivetreepl.plus.com > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:40 AM > Subject: Amused/Amazed > > > Hi Martin > > I believe you do Mark (MacTheAxe) a disservice with your comment. > > He was referring to the Andy Mackay interview ("More Than This" > DVD), wherein > Andy actually mouthed the "C-word", quoting Sid Vicious's verbal > opinion of > Bryan Ferry. > > So, Ferry was NOT called "the C word" by any of our charming > subscribers, > certainly not in the manner you have asserted. > > I was also amused/amazed(?) by the incongruity of Andy Mackay's > utterance! > > Unfortunately you went a little far by deriding Andy's/Phil's > Explorers > project with the sentence "I'm sure there's a vibrant Explorers > discussion > group where they can share their pithy pond life observations". > > I thought that "Avalon" embraced ALL of the Roxy Music family, so > still think > that discussion of the Explorers is welcome on THIS forum. > > I am sure you did not really intend to be so cutting in your remarks. > > Regards > > Michael McClelland > > > > > > > >> From: martinstockman@btinternet.com >> To: mark@olivetreepl.plus.com >> Subject: Re: [Fwd: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener] >> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:40:56 +0000 >> CC: avalon@smoe.org >> >> Hmmm. Things getting worse on Avalon. Ferry now called "the C word" >> by >> our charming subscribers. I'm sure there's a vibrant Explorers >> discussion group where they can share their pithy pond life >> observations. >> >> That would leave us to count down the days to Alphaville II and >> thoughts of spring gigs with the maestro. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2 Dec 2009, at 12:24, mark@olivetreepl.plus.com wrote: >> >>> Yes! >>> >>> By the way, wasn't it vaguely unsettling to hear Mr Mackay utter >>> the c >>> word? One of those things that I just wouldn't have forecast! >>> >>> On the subject of the Roxy DVD, by the way, although any new >>> interviews or >>> releases are welcome, I was a little underwhelmed. It was great to >>> see the >>> Docklands tracks- but only 3 tracks? Why? They had a camera there >>> for the >>> whole gig- surely we could have had a DVD with just the gig on? >>> Also, >>> although I'm sure that people like John Taylor (Duran Duran) are now >>> considered worthy of commenting on Roxy, I's rather have more stuff >>> with >>> the boys themselves- the PT interviews were particularly >>> interesting. >>> >>> However, I drwar the line at Bono- no-ine should be subjected to >>> that. >>> >>> Mactheaxe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------- Original Message >>> ---------------------------- >>> >>> >>> Subject: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener >>> From: leesullivanart@aol.com >>> Date: Wed, December 2, 2009 11:28 am >>> To: avalon@smoe.org >>> --- >>> --- >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> I think I agree with Sid. >>> >>> Lee S >>> >>> >>> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >>> >>> >>> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> > > > --- > --- > --- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:10:34 +0000 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener RALMAO at that Old Nick Richard Evans On 3 Dec 2009, at 11:07, jocelynfiske@aol.com wrote: > A little uncharitable Martino (and nearing Xmas too) to attack our > members for > not actually using the c-word themselves, but merely paraphrasing > the eloquent > Sid Vicious anecdote as told by Mr MacKay, whom I would suggest is > far more > qualified than anyone here to make a measured comparison. > I actually laughed out loud when I read Lee's quip - but then again > I can name > ALL the members of Roxy Music :-)) > > > Agree with Jeff about the articles, I was particularly dismayed to > read the > bit that was pretty much an "I can't find it in me to finish the > Roxy album > confession". Ever the eternal optimist, I believe that Roxy could > produce > decent new material. Phil and Andy have both done so recently and I > have no > reason to believe that their writing contributions in harness with > Ferry's > wouldn't give us at least some memorable tracks. However, I accept > that Ferry > believes he is well and truly lyrically constipated and just hope he > finds a > metaphorical sepositary soon to sort him out. I would rather hear > instrumental > versions of the current material that non at all, or just rehashing > of old > Ferry material. I can lay money on reworked John Lennon and Elvis > tracks (you > can keep the Drifters!), with luck Dylan has been exorcised for a > while. It > just doesn't ignite me with prospective delight - even the remaining > Alphaville tracks, unless Love War makes an airing, which I doubt. > But I'm more than happy to be surprised. > So Martino, put down that arsenic (and old lace) take off your blue > stockings > and get into the party spirit! > > > Old Nick > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martino > To: mark@olivetreepl.plus.com > CC: avalon@smoe.org > Sent: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:40 > Subject: Re: [Fwd: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener] > > > Hmmm. Things getting worse on Avalon. Ferry now called "the C word" > by our > charming subscribers. I'm sure there's a vibrant Explorers > discussion group > where they can share their pithy pond life observations. > > That would leave us to count down the days to Alphaville II and > thoughts of > spring gigs with the maestro. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2 Dec 2009, at 12:24, mark@olivetreepl.plus.com wrote: > >> Yes! >> >> By the way, wasn't it vaguely unsettling to hear Mr Mackay utter >> the c >> word? One of those things that I just wouldn't have forecast! >> >> On the subject of the Roxy DVD, by the way, although any new > >> interviews or >> releases are welcome, I was a little underwhelmed. It was great to >> > see the >> Docklands tracks- but only 3 tracks? Why? They had a camera there > >> for the >> whole gig- surely we could have had a DVD with just the gig on? Also, >> although I'm sure that people like John Taylor (Duran Duran) are now >> considered worthy of commenting on Roxy, I's rather have more stuff >> > with >> the boys themselves- the PT interviews were particularly interesting. >> >> However, I drwar the line at Bono- no-ine should be subjected to >> that. >> >> Mactheaxe >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------- Original Message > >> ---------------------------- >> >> >> Subject: [AVALON] RE: Roxy Dampener >> From: leesullivanart@aol.com >> Date: Wed, December 2, 2009 11:28 am >> To: avalon@smoe.org >> ---> ---> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> I think I agree with Sid. >> >> Lee S >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V13 #174 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest