From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V12 #264 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, October 26 2007 Volume 12 : Number 264 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Roxy in deep freeze [Chandla911@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxy in deep freeze [kwil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics ["Michiel van Sleen" ] Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics ["Michiel van Sleen" ] Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics ["Michiel van Sleen" ] Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics [KWil632057@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics [] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:06:51 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Roxy in deep freeze John O'Brien asked: Could it be some Roxy stuff? Nice thought but, when BF was asked by Michael Bracewell at the end of the interview last night at London's V&A, he said no plans but the door was still open for future recordings and it *might* be nice to do something one day if the project was deemed exciting enough. He then smirked and said "It's always good to leave on a question mark". Phil Manzanera was in camel coat at the back and did not look too surprised to hear that the Roxy project is still in cold storage. Shame. Also present were Tim and Vivienne Head (who introduced Roxy members and Simon Puxley to one another (in varying degrees) and received many credits from Bryan during the talk. Also present were Peter York and that guy who has an autobiography just out about his hedonistic life, complete with three-foot tall top hat. What is his name? All good things Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:42:38 -0400 From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy in deep freeze Sebastian Horsley. I have an odd feeling that Ferry was trying to shrug off the weight of expectation rather than killing the new Roxy album outright. J - -----Original Message----- From: Chandla911@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10.06am Subject: [AVALON] Roxy in deep freeze John O'Brien asked: Could it be some Roxy stuff? Nice thought but, when BF was asked by Michael Bracewell at the end of the interview last night at London's V&A, he said no plans but the door was still open for future recordings and it *might* be nice to do something one day if the project was deemed exciting enough. He then smirked and said "It's always good to leave on a question mark". Phil Manzanera was in camel coat at the back and did not look too surprised to hear that the Roxy project is still in cold storage. Shame. Also present were Tim and Vivienne Head (who introduced Roxy members and Simon Puxley to one another (in varying degrees) and received many credits from Bryan during the talk. Also present were Peter York and that guy who has an autobiography just out about his hedonistic life, complete with three-foot tall top hat. What is his name? All good things Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:41:07 +0200 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics But by killing it he would also be shrugging off the weight of expectation, certainly. Am I right or am I riot? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy in deep freeze > Sebastian Horsley. > > I have an odd feeling that Ferry was trying to shrug off the weight of > expectation rather than killing the new Roxy album outright. > > J > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chandla911@aol.com > To: avalon@smoe.org > Sent: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10.06am > Subject: [AVALON] Roxy in deep freeze > > > > > > > > > > > John O'Brien asked: Could it be some Roxy stuff? > > Nice thought but, when BF was asked by Michael Bracewell at the end of the > interview last night at London's V&A, he said no plans but the door was > still > open for future recordings and it *might* be nice to do something one day > if > the project was deemed exciting enough. He then smirked and said "It's > always > good to leave on a question mark". > > Phil Manzanera was in camel coat at the back and did not look too > surprised > to hear that the Roxy project is still in cold storage. Shame. > > Also present were Tim and Vivienne Head (who introduced Roxy members and > Simon Puxley to one another (in varying degrees) and received many credits > from > > Bryan during the talk. > > Also present were Peter York and that guy who has an autobiography just > out > about his hedonistic life, complete with three-foot tall top hat. What is > his > name? > > All good things > Richard Mills > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and > store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from > your favourite artists. Find out more at > http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:41:37 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy in deep freeze Amazing how, after such a fascinating evening, replete with charming anecdotes, full of humour, (and the Greatest Living Englishman in an amazing navy pinstripe,) we are talking about prospects for a new Roxy album. Yes I know we want it but, like all good things, you can't force it. The book, and the talk, transports us to the cauldron of creativity that was the Newcastle Art department in the 50s and 60s. Bracewell captures it so well. We should all be garlanding him with a thousand red roses. I had the happy happenstance of striding into the V&A with Peter York, and as we fell into stride we also fell into conversation. Style guru York has always understood and championed the Ferry zeitgeist, for which I thanked him, and he was at once complimentary and slightly catty about Bracewell's "faux elegant" style. I sat next to a lady from Faber And Faber, the publisher; I guess she was late 20s and clearly surprised by the veneration with which Bryan was received. She said the book was selling well - which probably means they've shifted 300! - and that they were delighted with the reviews. Later .. Martino - -----Original Message----- From: Chandla911@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10.06am Subject: [AVALON] Roxy in deep freeze John O'Brien asked: Could it be some Roxy stuff? Nice thought but, when BF was asked by Michael Bracewell at the end of the interview last night at London's V&A, he said no plans but the door was still open for future recordings and it *might* be nice to do something one day if the project was deemed exciting enough. He then smirked and said "It's always good to leave on a question mark". Phil Manzanera was in camel coat at the back and did not look too surprised to hear that the Roxy project is still in cold storage. Shame. Also present were Tim and Vivienne Head (who introduced Roxy members and Simon Puxley to one another (in varying degrees) and received many credits from Bryan during the talk. Also present were Peter York and that guy who has an autobiography just out about his hedonistic life, complete with three-foot tall top hat. What is his name? All good things Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:58:23 -0400 From: jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Standing room only for dilitantes Dandyism is alive and well and flaunting itself in SW7. Last night's V&A lecture?was as close as it's likely to get to an evening of expectation at?a Roxy Music gig circa '73. A dressing up, showing out pomp'n'circumstance hour where it was the old guard that had made the effort to come out?and preen.?Considering they made up a hefty dollop?of the?major players of Bracewell's Roxy Family Tree it should come as no surprise. Good old Douggie Fields, a man who?in his 20's?inhabited the face of?a middle aged man,?looked fabulous as if trapped in some debonair?cryogenic time warp, the only change in the past 30 years being?the shedding of the Daliesque twirl to his eyebrows.?Little Wendy Dagworthy primped and sparkling. Peter York out-suaving ?all and sundry while handing out catty quips.?Michael Bracewell himself looking like a world weary?1940's matinee idol. And then there was silly old Sebastian (I only sleep with prostitutes) Horsley with what one might only imagine?was a prostitute, or a girl called Rachael (he's partial to them too). Obviously made it to the lecture?straight from his staring role as The Child Catcher, in ridiculous pipe top hat?Edwardian frou-frou combo. The man obvious relishes being publicly crucified.? But, sadly no bewigged, mascara enhanced goateed?Anthony Price. Although Ferry enlightened us that?Big Tone still looks identical to his 70's pompadoured greaser imgage thrown onto the V&A?video screen. Low key guest appearance by Phil Manzanera (probably wanting to know if the Roxy album is on or off) who was inappropriately descended on by autograph vultures.? But best of all, the delightful Cigarette Girls bedecked as if from the sleeve notes of Mamouna, coquettishly handing out lollipops and Roxy badges (you see how hard the smoking ban has hit London?).? Ferry would be delighted that it all felt like a very Roxy 'thing'. A quick intro from Bracewell and then we launch into the Royal College of?Art Remake Remodel video, which we've all seen a million times before? but which?felt strangely new?last night. A passage read from Rex Puxley's BF Story and Bryan emerges like a scared rabbit. Majorly out of his comfort zone. We had bets on him not turning up at all?and knowing his awkwardness in public as?the chanteur stripped bare I was amazed he agreed to it in the first place. But he soon warmed to his task - mesmerised by the image of?Penshaw Hill now illuminated. The only problem of the evening was that he went off - not at tangents (though he did) he just went off....somewhere...who knows where.?Then with a sniff and a "what was I saying?" 1-2-3 he's back in the room. A lot of the usual anecdotes were trotted out (his elder sister playing Moonlight Sonata so well, he vowed he'd never play piano again, after only on lesson). And a lot of the really new (to me) stuff in the book recounted.?Too much to mention here. But a massive affection for Newcastle, being a student, money, grammar school girls and cars emerged. Off he went remembering that Richard Hamilton drove a very cool car - a Karmann Ghia, and?went on to name the colour and?model of his Studebaker. Someone needs to get this man blazing round the track?on Top Gear pronto. I've never heard him mention the artist he nearly wrote his?dissertation?about before (he wasn't allowed to, as said same artist wasn't dead!). And he wistfully told us that he'd never been part of a gang before and that he felt like the caricature in?"that film The Outsider". Then (maybe knowing Phil was there) quickly corrected himself?"...oh apart from Roxy Music". Oops! But it was a one-off privileged night. Quite moving?to see Ferry's vulnerability. Obvious to see he lives in a world in his head that he occasionally lets people catch glimpses of. And the relief when it was all over was almost?palpable.? Really glad he put himself through such exquisite pain. Jocelyn????? ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:31:47 +0200 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics My guess is he doesn't want a similar tragedy to happen as in the case of many of his "comeback contemporaries". And said new Roxy songs - if they exist - are bound to one day pop up on eMule or Kazaa and prove to be very similar to the Horrorscope songs. Either that or Phil, Brian, Andy and Bryan will simultaniously be making as much shrieking and whining noise as possible and staying as far away as they can from harmony and each other's tunes... Or was that what defined Roxy Music? Still, I'm dying to hear these songs should they ever exist! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'Michiel van Sleen'" ; Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics > You're right! > > It's good that he feels if it's worth doing its worth doing well - but I > will stick to my view that this Roxy Album just won't happen. > > Outside of Avalonia I can't see the weight of expectation being so high > that > it causes Ferry to dry up. More. > > What does surprise me is that there isn't enough in the can to interest > him > enough to get back in the studio. > > Anyway I thought somebodys website claimed they had some great songs from > the "sessions". > > Cheers > > rob > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Michiel van Sleen > Sent: 25 October 2007 11:41 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics > > But by killing it he would also be shrugging off the weight of > expectation, > certainly. > > Am I right or am I riot? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:27:03 +0100 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics You're right! It's good that he feels if it's worth doing its worth doing well - but I will stick to my view that this Roxy Album just won't happen. Outside of Avalonia I can't see the weight of expectation being so high that it causes Ferry to dry up. More. What does surprise me is that there isn't enough in the can to interest him enough to get back in the studio. Anyway I thought somebodys website claimed they had some great songs from the "sessions". Cheers rob - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michiel van Sleen Sent: 25 October 2007 11:41 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics But by killing it he would also be shrugging off the weight of expectation, certainly. Am I right or am I riot? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:13:29 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics They do. In a message dated 25/10/2007 22:08:07 GMT Standard Time, rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk writes: Anyway I thought somebodys website claimed they had some great songs from the "sessions". Cheers rob ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:26:05 +0200 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics They do do do They da da da That's all you want to say to us? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics > They do. > > > In a message dated 25/10/2007 22:08:07 GMT Standard Time, > rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk writes: > > > > Anyway I thought somebodys website claimed they had some great songs from > the "sessions". > > Cheers > > rob > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:34:06 +0100 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics Good. Why don't they release them then? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of KWil632057@aol.com Sent: 25 October 2007 22:13 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics They do. In a message dated 25/10/2007 22:08:07 GMT Standard Time, rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk writes: Anyway I thought somebodys website claimed they had some great songs from the "sessions". Cheers rob ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:34:28 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics In a message dated 25/10/2007 22:29:26 GMT Standard Time, mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: They do do do They da da da That's all you want to say to us? Yes. The people who have heard the music have said it's very good. For example, Jake Shears said it was very cool. What more would you like me to say to you? J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:58:16 +0200 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics Why they don't release them. > What more would you like me to say to you? > > J > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:05:27 +0200 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics And you're sure Iraq has weapons of mass destruction? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics > They do. > > > In a message dated 25/10/2007 22:08:07 GMT Standard Time, > rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk writes: > > > > Anyway I thought somebodys website claimed they had some great songs from > the "sessions". > > Cheers > > rob > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:11:07 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics In a message dated 25/10/2007 23:02:58 GMT Standard Time, mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: Why they don't release them. Er, because they are great but unfinished? 'Why don't they finish them' They will but in Ferry's time, nobody else's. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:36:57 +0100 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics Exactly - that's why I fear we will never hear them. Last decent album Ferry wrote? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of KWil632057@aol.com Sent: 25 October 2007 23:11 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics In a message dated 25/10/2007 23:02:58 GMT Standard Time, mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: Why they don't release them. Er, because they are great but unfinished? 'Why don't they finish them' They will but in Ferry's time, nobody else's. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:49:05 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics In a message dated 25/10/2007 23:40:03 GMT Standard Time, rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk writes: Last decent album Ferry wrote? If ever there's an utterly pointless arguement to get into it's that one, so I'll leave you to it. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:17:22 +0100 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics Thanks. Shame you would view an exchange of views as an argument. Sounded like a simple question to me. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of KWil632057@aol.com Sent: 25 October 2007 23:49 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry Cry Cryogenics In a message dated 25/10/2007 23:40:03 GMT Standard Time, rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk writes: Last decent album Ferry wrote? If ever there's an utterly pointless arguement to get into it's that one, so I'll leave you to it. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V12 #264 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest