From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V12 #101 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, April 17 2007 Volume 12 : Number 101 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Oh dear - Independent on Sunday [] RE: [AVALON] Daily Mail [] Re: [AVALON] Daily Mail ["Michiel van Sleen" ] [AVALON] Re: Daily Male ["krnchse" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Daily Mail ["Michiel van Sleen" ] [AVALON] From wikipedia on the Avalon SACD: [kwil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] From wikipedia on the Avalon SACD: [LeeSullivanart@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] From wikipedia on the Avalon SACD: ["Andrew Shearer" ] [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks ["Don M Schultz Jr." ] RE: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks ["Andrew Shearer" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Oh dear - Independent on Sunday I hope this doesn't get taken out of context any more in the papers. Just because he sees something in the presentation doesn't of course mean that he condones mass murder. David Bowie, around the early eighties, IMHO drew heavily on German military influences in some of his work. It is a pretty major part of history, so its ridiculous not to expect it to have influenced art now. Anyway I rather like the Nimrod opening sequences to the New Town video, with guard pacing around. Perhaps its just one of these areas where he should just be very careful, as anything could be interpreted the wrong way very easily. Cheers Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:00:56 +0200 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Independent on Sunday article (a bit of a ramble) Lovely stuff! Seeing all this exciting artwork a little German soldier sitting in my lap immediately sprang to attention. What do you lot make of this quote: "True art as defined by Hitler was linked with the country life"? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Independent on Sunday article (a bit of a ramble) > Fraulein Riefenstal caught Der Furher's eye because she worked on a number > of > "volkish" Alpine mountan climbing flicks. Mr. H's ideas about art being > severely retrograde, it's easy to see why snow, dirndls and Edelweiss > would get him > all hot'n bothered. You might check some of the official art of the Third > Reich, academic lumpy peasant Venues, Blood-and-soil toiling farmers, safe > landscapes and heroic nudes by Arno Breker. > (http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/arts/artReich.htm) > (http://www.hitler.org/art/breker/) > > (It's even been argued that if Hitler had been able to make it as a > painter, > he wouldn't have had to do his great work of performance art. I.E. his > disastrous stab at world domination.) > > However these and Albert Speer's clasical revival thang were not formally > unlike contemporaneous American WPA, Soviet realism and Italian Fascist > stuff > except for the ideology. (I'd imagine there were examples of what I call > the > Fascist International Style in the UK, but I can't name any) > > Herr Speer wanted to re-do Berlin and Linz (Austria, Hitler's home town) > as > fitting locals for the new empire, > Ms Riefenstal's rather fluid Ideology aimed at making that happen, as long > as > her gravy train remained linked to the ascendant Adolph. (years later: "I > knew nothing") Triumph Des Willnes, was the uber home movie to screen at > various > party clambakes, and indeed around the world to show off the new regime's > popularity and might. > (Fritz Lang and F. W. Murnau had long ago departed for Hollywood for > political reasons and better pay.) > Triumph and Olympiad are ALWAYS shown in film classes, but ALWAYS with a > bit > of nose-holding. > Absolutely brilliant art, but mired down by the weight of all those > corpses > to come. > Speer, brilliant too, but his forms and spaces are all in the service of a > maniacal egomaniac. > > In summation: AY CARUMBA! > > Triumph of the Will provided Roxy with a great tongue in cheek (I > thought) > stage set for the Manifesto tour, BUT, Mr. Ferry must be on the pipe to > NOT > suspect that the German press MIGHT take offense to his applauding the > LONG > BANNED imagry of National Socialism. > > Add to that, in once-blitzed Britian, where much of the heat seems to be > coming from, such flirtations backfired on Bowie, Siouxsie, and even more > recently, a certain Prince. > > I think The Great God Bryan Ferry, speaking aesthetically, meant that a > work > of art can be held separate from ideology, (Ingres' portraits of Napoleon > come > to mind) but in this case fifty years are not near enough time to have > that > perspective. > > Yours in Ferry. R. Deagle > > > > > ************************************** > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:06:16 +0200 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Oh dear - Independent on Sunday Oops! Ferry reacts: "I CONDONE MASS MURDER". No wait, that was Hitler talking. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'Andrew Shearer'" ; Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:47 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Oh dear - Independent on Sunday >I hope this doesn't get taken out of context any more in the papers. > > Just because he sees something in the presentation doesn't of course mean > that he condones mass murder. David Bowie, around the early eighties, IMHO > drew heavily on German military influences in some of his work. > > It is a pretty major part of history, so its ridiculous not to expect it > to > have influenced art now. > > Anyway I rather like the Nimrod opening sequences to the New Town video, > with guard pacing around. > > Perhaps its just one of these areas where he should just be very careful, > as > anything could be interpreted the wrong way very easily. > > Cheers > Rob > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:02:52 +0200 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Independent on Sunday article (a bit of a ramble) "True art as defined by Hitler was linked with Country Life (and all of its joys)"! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michiel van Sleen" To: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Independent on Sunday article (a bit of a ramble) > Lovely stuff! > > Seeing all this exciting artwork a little German soldier sitting in my lap > immediately sprang to attention. > > What do you lot make of this quote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:55 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Independent on Sunday article (a bit of a ramble) > > >> Fraulein Riefenstal caught Der Furher's eye because she worked on a number >> of >> "volkish" Alpine mountan climbing flicks. Mr. H's ideas about art being >> severely retrograde, it's easy to see why snow, dirndls and Edelweiss >> would get him >> all hot'n bothered. You might check some of the official art of the Third >> Reich, academic lumpy peasant Venues, Blood-and-soil toiling farmers, safe >> landscapes and heroic nudes by Arno Breker. >> (http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/arts/artReich.htm) >> (http://www.hitler.org/art/breker/) >> >> (It's even been argued that if Hitler had been able to make it as a >> painter, >> he wouldn't have had to do his great work of performance art. I.E. his >> disastrous stab at world domination.) >> >> However these and Albert Speer's clasical revival thang were not formally >> unlike contemporaneous American WPA, Soviet realism and Italian Fascist >> stuff >> except for the ideology. (I'd imagine there were examples of what I call >> the >> Fascist International Style in the UK, but I can't name any) >> >> Herr Speer wanted to re-do Berlin and Linz (Austria, Hitler's home town) >> as >> fitting locals for the new empire, >> Ms Riefenstal's rather fluid Ideology aimed at making that happen, as long >> as >> her gravy train remained linked to the ascendant Adolph. (years later: "I >> knew nothing") Triumph Des Willnes, was the uber home movie to screen at >> various >> party clambakes, and indeed around the world to show off the new regime's >> popularity and might. >> (Fritz Lang and F. W. Murnau had long ago departed for Hollywood for >> political reasons and better pay.) >> Triumph and Olympiad are ALWAYS shown in film classes, but ALWAYS with a >> bit >> of nose-holding. >> Absolutely brilliant art, but mired down by the weight of all those >> corpses >> to come. >> Speer, brilliant too, but his forms and spaces are all in the service of a >> maniacal egomaniac. >> >> In summation: AY CARUMBA! >> >> Triumph of the Will provided Roxy with a great tongue in cheek (I >> thought) >> stage set for the Manifesto tour, BUT, Mr. Ferry must be on the pipe to >> NOT >> suspect that the German press MIGHT take offense to his applauding the >> LONG >> BANNED imagry of National Socialism. >> >> Add to that, in once-blitzed Britian, where much of the heat seems to be >> coming from, such flirtations backfired on Bowie, Siouxsie, and even more >> recently, a certain Prince. >> >> I think The Great God Bryan Ferry, speaking aesthetically, meant that a >> work >> of art can be held separate from ideology, (Ingres' portraits of Napoleon >> come >> to mind) but in this case fifty years are not near enough time to have >> that >> perspective. >> >> Yours in Ferry. R. Deagle >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** >> See what's free at http://www.aol.com. >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:20:22 -0000 From: "Andy Harrison" Subject: [AVALON] Daily Mail o' dear o' dear http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_ar ticle_id=448753&in_page_id=1773 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:49:24 +0100 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Daily Mail Looks like my hope about no more papers taking this out of context was forlorn. As far as I can see he wasn;t saying the Nazis aims were amazing, just that parts of their presentation were. So what? On a different scale I know, but if he'd said Ronnie and Reggie were well dressed and presented themselves in an interesting way, no one would blinked. I bet the comments about the name of his studio are just a joke about his controlling nature. The comments from the manager were sensible, although if this does break into mainstream news lets hope his PR is a professional operation. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andy Harrison Sent: 16 April 2007 11:20 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Daily Mail o' dear o' dear http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_a r ticle_id=448753&in_page_id=1773 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:09:31 +0200 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Daily Mail It says 'article not found' when I click the link. Couldn't all this be an ill-conceived publicity stunt? Michiel - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'Andy Harrison'" ; Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Daily Mail > Looks like my hope about no more papers taking this out of context was > forlorn. > > As far as I can see he wasn;t saying the Nazis aims were amazing, just > that > parts of their presentation were. > > So what? On a different scale I know, but if he'd said Ronnie and Reggie > were well dressed and presented themselves in an interesting way, no one > would blinked. > > I bet the comments about the name of his studio are just a joke about his > controlling nature. > > The comments from the manager were sensible, although if this does break > into mainstream news lets hope his PR is a professional operation. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Andy > Harrison > Sent: 16 April 2007 11:20 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Daily Mail > > o' dear o' dear > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_a > r > ticle_id=448753&in_page_id=1773 > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:31:56 -0400 From: "krnchse" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Daily Male Fez is still suffering the hangover from reading "Eim Kampf " by reputed Brownshirt aficionado Anton E.Prizenzer whilst billeted up in the Algarve with uber model / concubine Eve - line.His body was tanned and his manifesto was penned,but the Sharpie marker ' tash was unconvincing.Bittersweet. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:45:57 +0200 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Daily Mail That rag The Daily Mail didn't publish my reaction. Apparently they only want to show hate mail. Real nice way to practice journalism. Now, what regime does that remind me of? Michiel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:52:10 -0400 From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] From wikipedia on the Avalon SACD: Also included is a music video for "True to Life" which features Nicole Kidman Is this true? I should imagine not. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:15:05 EDT From: LeeSullivanart@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] From wikipedia on the Avalon SACD: In a message dated 16/04/2007 15:59:13 GMT Standard Time, kwil632057@aol.com writes: Is this true? I should imagine not. You imagine correctly. 'Always Unknowing' is included on the surround version as an extra after 'Tara'. No video that I've found - Kidman or otherwise, sadly. Lee S ____________________________________________ Easily distracted? Displacement activity a problem? Me too. Going to: _www.leesullivan.co.uk_ (http://www.leesullivan.co.uk/) and _www.roxymagic.co.uk_ (http://www.roxymagic.com/) won't help either. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:13:31 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] From wikipedia on the Avalon SACD: Yes, and still one of the best SACDs that I've heard - even non Roxy fans say so too. (Frantic great too but Boys & Girls disappointing.) Andrew >From: LeeSullivanart@aol.com >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] From wikipedia on the Avalon SACD: >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:15:05 EDT > >In a message dated 16/04/2007 15:59:13 GMT Standard Time, >kwil632057@aol.com >writes: > >Is this true? I should imagine not. > > > > > >You imagine correctly. 'Always Unknowing' is included on the surround >version as an extra after 'Tara'. No video that I've found - Kidman or >otherwise, >sadly. > >Lee S >____________________________________________ >Easily distracted? Displacement activity a problem? >Me too. Going to: > >_www.leesullivan.co.uk_ (http://www.leesullivan.co.uk/) > >and > >_www.roxymagic.co.uk_ (http://www.roxymagic.com/) > >won't help either. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving - check out the new Windows Live Hotmail http://get.live.com/betas/mail_betas ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:22:36 +0100 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] From wikipedia on the Avalon SACD: I didn't know you get frantic on SACD - enjoyed Avalon and B&G, sounds quite different. Off topic - Ive been trying to find a DVD recorder that is also an SACD player with 6 channel analogue output - can't find any. Has anyone come across one? If so perhaps drop me a line off list - thanks rob - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Shearer Sent: 16 April 2007 17:14 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] From wikipedia on the Avalon SACD: Yes, and still one of the best SACDs that I've heard - even non Roxy fans say so too. (Frantic great too but Boys & Girls disappointing.) Andrew >From: LeeSullivanart@aol.com >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] From wikipedia on the Avalon SACD: >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:15:05 EDT > >In a message dated 16/04/2007 15:59:13 GMT Standard Time, >kwil632057@aol.com >writes: > >Is this true? I should imagine not. > > > > > >You imagine correctly. 'Always Unknowing' is included on the surround >version as an extra after 'Tara'. No video that I've found - Kidman or >otherwise, >sadly. > >Lee S >____________________________________________ >Easily distracted? Displacement activity a problem? >Me too. Going to: > >_www.leesullivan.co.uk_ (http://www.leesullivan.co.uk/) > >and > >_www.roxymagic.co.uk_ (http://www.roxymagic.com/) > >won't help either. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving - check out the new Windows Live Hotmail http://get.live.com/betas/mail_betas ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:39:47 +0100 (BST) From: Terence OConnor Subject: [AVALON] German story hits Radio 2 I think most of the UK will of heard this "out of context" story by now. It was on the 5pm news on radio 2. At best BF is going to become the butt of some bad publicity. It certainly sounds like a ridiculous story. I'm sure most normal folks will take it with a pinch of salt, but he might expect the odd heckle from the "Tower Of London" shows. Still, people still talk of Bowies "Nazi salute" in '76, so is any publicity, good publicity? Terry 'O' ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:49:43 +0000 From: Subject: [AVALON] Aesthetics Nazi propoganda. WHAT! Now people aren't allowed to discuss aesthetics! What a lot of guff...Looks like it's "Spring time for Hitler".... All Bryan needs now is for the bastards to check out the "Sign of the times" video on you tube..... - ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:38:30 -0000 From: "Don M Schultz Jr." Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks Now picked up by Reuters and Yahoo News. See: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070416/en_nm/britain_ferry_nazis_dc_2 ditto o'dear, Don n/p Rehab-Amy Winehouse - -- Don M Schultz Jr. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:36:00 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: "philip77@tiscali.co.uk" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Aesthetics Nazi propoganda. Those that want to, will look to be offended. One could make similar remarks about the iconography of Stalinist and Soviet art and representation Reason goes straight out of the window when headlines are sought. Philip ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only B#9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:35:54 -0400 From: johnobrien001@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks All taken well out of proportion and glad to see the press are accepting his apology and statement. Nein, Das is nicht Das Ende der Welt Gestrandet an Leben und Kunst J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:47:49 -0400 From: jencohn201@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks After they posted it first of course! Argh! -----Original Message----- From: johnobrien001@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 1:35 PM Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks All taken well out of proportion and glad to see the press are accepting his apology and statement. Nein, Das is nicht Das Ende der Welt Gestrandet an Leben und Kunst J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:57:45 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks Ridiclously OTT reaction. Sad to see Bryan apologise for something that isn't offensive. Reminds me of James Brown being fired as the editor of GQ for citing Rommel as a stylish man. J In a message dated 16/04/2007 18:46:13 GMT Standard Time, johnobrien001@aol.com writes: All taken well out of proportion and glad to see the press are accepting his apology and statement. Nein, Das is nicht Das Ende der Welt Gestrandet an Leben und Kunst J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:41:33 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: [AVALON] test ignore ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:13:21 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks Will be interesting to see if there's a similar amount of newsprint for the apology. I suspect not. >From: "Don M Schultz Jr." >Reply-To: dmsltz@netpath.net >To: Avalon@smoe.org >Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:38:30 -0000 > >Now picked up by Reuters and Yahoo News. See: > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070416/en_nm/britain_ferry_nazis_dc_2 > >ditto o'dear, >Don >n/p Rehab-Amy Winehouse > >-- >Don M Schultz Jr. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:21:39 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks Wouldn't it be great if he gave an articulate yet fulsome apology on J Ross. I'm sure many Avalonions, like me, have been fielding Ferry-bashing mails from acquaintances all day. Hard to defend, really. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Shearer Sent: 16 April 2007 20:13 To: Avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks Will be interesting to see if there's a similar amount of newsprint for the apology. I suspect not. >From: "Don M Schultz Jr." >Reply-To: dmsltz@netpath.net >To: Avalon@smoe.org >Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:38:30 -0000 > >Now picked up by Reuters and Yahoo News. See: > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070416/en_nm/britain_ferry_nazis_dc_2 > >ditto o'dear, >Don >n/p Rehab-Amy Winehouse > >-- >Don M Schultz Jr. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/761 - Release Date: 4/14/2007 21:36 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/761 - Release Date: 4/14/2007 21:36 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:45:44 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks I think he's just singing - no interview. Maybe he could be persuaded now though - I guess it'd be an ideal opportunity to set the record straight - as long as he doesn't come across as irritated and saying "he thinks that the whole thing was blown out of proportion and misunderstood". Of which of course it was, but a certain contriteness and understanding of how his remarks were misinterpreted would go someway to helping. >From: "Martin Stockman" >To: "'Andrew Shearer'" , >Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:21:39 +0100 > > >Wouldn't it be great if he gave an articulate yet fulsome apology on J >Ross. > >I'm sure many Avalonions, like me, have been fielding Ferry-bashing mails >from acquaintances all day. Hard to defend, really. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of >Andrew Shearer >Sent: 16 April 2007 20:13 >To: Avalon@smoe.org >Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks > >Will be interesting to see if there's a similar amount of newsprint for the >apology. I suspect not. > > > >From: "Don M Schultz Jr." > >Reply-To: dmsltz@netpath.net > >To: Avalon@smoe.org > >Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks > >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:38:30 -0000 > > > >Now picked up by Reuters and Yahoo News. See: > > > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070416/en_nm/britain_ferry_nazis_dc_2 > > > >ditto o'dear, > >Don > >n/p Rehab-Amy Winehouse > > > >-- > >Don M Schultz Jr. > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. >http://www.msn.txt4content.com/ > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/761 - Release Date: 4/14/2007 >21:36 > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/761 - Release Date: 4/14/2007 >21:36 > > _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:49:34 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry apologizes for Nazi remarks On the other hand he might pull out of the show completely - which I think would be a big mistake - reinforces the "aloof" impression etc. I don't know much about Steve Howard but I hope he has good advice. Andrew _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:24:32 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: "philip77@tiscali.co.uk" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry apologises etc Ferry: " quick, hide the damn eagle". ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only B#9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:13:08 +0200 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry apologises (Oy ve) And turn the canvases ze other vay! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:24 PM Subject: [AVALON] Ferry apologises etc > Ferry: " quick, hide the damn eagle". > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Tiscali Broadband only B#9.99 a month for your first 3 months! > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V12 #101 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest