From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V12 #34 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, February 9 2007 Volume 12 : Number 034 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] London gig this Saturday ["Martin Stockman" ] RE: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers ["KB Porter" ] RE: [AVALON] London gig this Saturday ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] London gig this Saturday [Richard Evans ] [AVALON] Ferry uncovered Ketty Lester-River of Salt ["Han Snijders" ] [AVALON] Anna Nicole Smith [KWil632057@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers ["Simon Allin" Subject: RE: [AVALON] London gig this Saturday Anyone received notification of tickets yet? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:57:19 -0500 From: jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers Came across an old interview Ferry did with NYRock just before the Paris gig on the Frantic Tour. I'd forgotten about it, but it makes interesting re-reading. It's cut and pasted in soundbites: I particularly like the denial of the next album being a Dylan covers album, but more worrying is the admission that he can't write on the road. Which means that if his lyrical block hasn't already been irrigated, the Roxy Album might take longer to complete that 2007. NYROCK: You recently said that, one day, you were going to do a Dylan covers album. Any plans for that in the near future? BRYAN: Not really. I mean, there are so many of his songs that I like that I could easily do that one day. The next album... When this tour finishes off, I'll start recording it, and it could be anything, really. I'm not sure which direction it's going. It's nice to know that there are several different avenues I could pursue. One of them is doing covers of different artists. I like doing that, but I've also got some songs of my own, which are lying around, which I might do as well. NYROCK: Have you ever met Bob Dylan? BRYAN: Never have, no. Probably never shall. NYROCK: What if you did a duet with him? BRYAN: Wouldn't that be nice? That would be a very good idea. He's a friend of Dave Stewart's, who I know. NYROCK: You often include icons of pop culture in your songs: James Bond, Jackie O., Johnnie Ray and Garbo.... BRYAN: I think it's colorful. It adds color to throw in things, references to things. I should really place products in. I must do that one day... like Wella Shampoo or something (laughs). NYROCK: And they'll call you and ask you to do commercials and advertise your music at the same time! BRYAN: Yeah, it would be nice to have some advertising spots. NYROCK: But that shows that you constantly renew your music by experimenting. BRYAN: I think so. I could experiment much more and do things which are much more difficult, but I've got to make a living, and that's always been my excuse. I've always wanted to do an album everybody hated. That must be my next task, you know, something which is difficult. NYROCK: Is it difficult for you to write lyrics? BRYAN: God, torture. Absolute torture. NYROCK: More difficult than writing music? BRYAN: Oh yes, much, because music is just something that comes to you. You don't question it. And [with] words, you're [saying], "I've heard that before" or "I've written something like this before," and all the time, you're editing it. "Is that a very cool thing to say?" or "I feel I can say it better." I like the fact that music is more abstract. But when you get music and words together, that can be a very powerful thing. It can be great. But I don't write so much now, because they're too painful. So by touring all the time in the last couple of years, I'm just actually escaping from the process of writing (laughs), because I can't write on the road. Jocely ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:15:32 -0500 From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers Excellent stuff. Well dug up, Indiana Fiske! The Word interview is very interesting too, now i've read the whole thing. He's surprisingly open about his career and where he stands as of 2007. Fascinating how he wants to be part of a band now after years of rejecting the idea. The question of which albums, if any, are exactly what he wanted them to be brings up FYP: a hint at the direction of the new Roxy album I wonder? J -----Original Message----- From: jocelynfiske@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11.57AM Subject: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers Came across an old interview Ferry did with NYRock just before the Paris gig on the Frantic Tour. I'd forgotten about it, but it makes interesting re-reading. It's cut and pasted in soundbites: I particularly like the denial of the next album being a Dylan covers album, but more worrying is the admission that he can't write on the road. Which means that if his lyrical block hasn't already been irrigated, the Roxy Album might take longer to complete that 2007. NYROCK: You recently said that, one day, you were going to do a Dylan covers album. Any plans for that in the near future? BRYAN: Not really. I mean, there are so many of his songs that I like that I could easily do that one day. The next album... When this tour finishes off, I'll start recording it, and it could be anything, really. I'm not sure which direction it's going. It's nice to know that there are several different avenues I could pursue. One of them is doing covers of different artists. I like doing that, but I've also got some songs of my own, which are lying around, which I might do as well. NYROCK: Have you ever met Bob Dylan? BRYAN: Never have, no. Probably never shall. NYROCK: What if you did a duet with him? BRYAN: Wouldn't that be nice? That would be a very good idea. He's a friend of Dave Stewart's, who I know. NYROCK: You often include icons of pop culture in your songs: James Bond, Jackie O., Johnnie Ray and Garbo.... BRYAN: I think it's colorful. It adds color to throw in things, references to things. I should really place products in. I must do that one day... like Wella Shampoo or something (laughs). NYROCK: And they'll call you and ask you to do commercials and advertise your music at the same time! BRYAN: Yeah, it would be nice to have some advertising spots. NYROCK: But that shows that you constantly renew your music by experimenting. BRYAN: I think so. I could experiment much more and do things which are much more difficult, but I've got to make a living, and that's always been my excuse. I've always wanted to do an album everybody hated. That must be my next task, you know, something which is difficult. NYROCK: Is it difficult for you to write lyrics? BRYAN: God, torture. Absolute torture. NYROCK: More difficult than writing music? BRYAN: Oh yes, much, because music is just something that comes to you. You don't question it. And [with] words, you're [saying], "I've heard that before" or "I've written something like this before," and all the time, you're editing it. "Is that a very cool thing to say?" or "I feel I can say it better." I like the fact that music is more abstract. But when you get music and words together, that can be a very powerful thing. It can be great. But I don't write so much now, because they're too painful. So by touring all the time in the last couple of years, I'm just actually escaping from the process of writing (laughs), because I can't write on the road. Jocely ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:55:15 -0500 From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] London gig this Saturday Not yet, although I did get the answer wrong. Living in hope, J -----Original Message----- From: martinstockman@btinternet.com To: jocelynfiske@aol.com; avalon@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11.41AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] London gig this Saturday Anyone received notification of tickets yet? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:17:55 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bought "The Word", well you have to buy mags that have Ferrys name on the front don't you? An OK interview, says he wants to be popular rather than do difficult and challenging stuff. He's quite honest in it about doing private parties for money, and even says "Bollocks" a couple of times. Sounds like he might be struggling to write songs for the Roxy album. Quite good photos. Very nice coat. It doesn't really say whether Dylanesque is good bad or indifferent in its view. (so quite similar to the reviews on here then!) You'd be forgiven for sneaking open the plastic cover and just reading the article though, nothing earth shattering. There is an ad for his shows later in the mag - a few are sold out - Carlisle (all ten tickets sold), Manchester, Birmingham I think. And Newcastle. Cheers rob ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:45:17 -0500 From: "KB Porter" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers "...but I've got to make a living, and that's always been my excuse. I've always wanted to do an album everybody hated. That must be my next task, you know, something which is difficult." Always pragmatic and justifying, but his dry humour is fabulous! Surely BF was thinking "Mamouna" when he said he's always wanted to do an album everybody hated... "I should really place products in. I must do that one day... like Wella Shampoo or something (laughs)." He should! Media is rife with embedded branding and advertising. A direct example that pops into mind is Sting and Jaguar promoting his tour while posing as the auto's spokesman. And those Wheaties that you see the "Hero" cheerleader downing helps bring further revenue to the drama (its network) and General Mills. Yes, be creative, daring, throw caution to the wind because this is living and damn the critics (they usually have their ulterior motives - who needs them to tell us if we like something or not?). If someone gets you, they get you - if not, why care - you've done nothing wrong - they just are into something else, that's all. Jocelyn, a couple months ago you mentioned something about Simon Puxley as Bryan Ferry's muse. I wonder, after reading some of Puxley's work, do you think there is any chance that the two co-wrote lyrics or if the former wrote lyric that the latter man used with the former's blessing while not wanting credit? Ferry's original output plummeted upon the silencing of Puxley's pen. More likely coincidence? Or was there a mutually beneficial creative partnership between what might have been a dynamic duo? Curiosity killed the cat. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:31:14 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers Hi K I too am mildly obsessed with Dr P, and feel he was a far greater influence on the canon than many better known players. We know that he co-wrote Mother Of Pearl, don't we? I was there when Bryan announced it to an audience. We know Dr P was Rex Balfour, the author of the camp and delicious hagiography of BF that surfaced in the late 70s. We know DR P set the tone for EVERYTHING with the sleeve notes on the first album. I assume he had some input on Dreamhome / San Simeon. He was part of the holy trinity of BF, Anthony and himself.... Was he with Bryan in Derbyshire when For Your Pleasure was written in a fortnight? (To read the press one would be forgiven for thinking that Eno was there too....don't get me going..) I do think Dr P's demise may have something to do with how we've ended up in a rather less edgy, less glamorous era, albeit warmly cocooned in good musicianship and intelligent attitudes. Mx - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of KB Porter Sent: 08 February 2007 16:45 To: Avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers "...but I've got to make a living, and that's always been my excuse. I've always wanted to do an album everybody hated. That must be my next task, you know, something which is difficult." Always pragmatic and justifying, but his dry humour is fabulous! Surely BF was thinking "Mamouna" when he said he's always wanted to do an album everybody hated... "I should really place products in. I must do that one day... like Wella Shampoo or something (laughs)." He should! Media is rife with embedded branding and advertising. A direct example that pops into mind is Sting and Jaguar promoting his tour while posing as the auto's spokesman. And those Wheaties that you see the "Hero" cheerleader downing helps bring further revenue to the drama (its network) and General Mills. Yes, be creative, daring, throw caution to the wind because this is living and damn the critics (they usually have their ulterior motives - who needs them to tell us if we like something or not?). If someone gets you, they get you - if not, why care - you've done nothing wrong - they just are into something else, that's all. Jocelyn, a couple months ago you mentioned something about Simon Puxley as Bryan Ferry's muse. I wonder, after reading some of Puxley's work, do you think there is any chance that the two co-wrote lyrics or if the former wrote lyric that the latter man used with the former's blessing while not wanting credit? Ferry's original output plummeted upon the silencing of Puxley's pen. More likely coincidence? Or was there a mutually beneficial creative partnership between what might have been a dynamic duo? Curiosity killed the cat. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Cheers Richard On 8 Feb 2007, at 11:41, Martin Stockman wrote: > Anyone received notification of tickets yet? > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _____ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:11:36 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] London gig this Saturday Yes, I've received the call.... - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Richard Evans Sent: 08 February 2007 19:03 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] London gig this Saturday Nope - anyone with anything???? Cheers Richard On 8 Feb 2007, at 11:41, Martin Stockman wrote: > Anyone received notification of tickets yet? > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _____ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:18:34 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers Ferry mentions Puxley as a big loss in the Word interview. When asked about the near plane crash. Maybe it was Puxley who understood that Ferry had to produce something "out of left field" to be successful, contradiction in terms though that is. Ferry isn't different or unexpected enough to interest most nowadays. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Martin Stockman Sent: 08 February 2007 18:31 To: 'KB Porter'; Avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers Hi K I too am mildly obsessed with Dr P, and feel he was a far greater influence on the canon than many better known players. We know that he co-wrote Mother Of Pearl, don't we? I was there when Bryan announced it to an audience. We know Dr P was Rex Balfour, the author of the camp and delicious hagiography of BF that surfaced in the late 70s. We know DR P set the tone for EVERYTHING with the sleeve notes on the first album. I assume he had some input on Dreamhome / San Simeon. He was part of the holy trinity of BF, Anthony and himself.... Was he with Bryan in Derbyshire when For Your Pleasure was written in a fortnight? (To read the press one would be forgiven for thinking that Eno was there too....don't get me going..) I do think Dr P's demise may have something to do with how we've ended up in a rather less edgy, less glamorous era, albeit warmly cocooned in good musicianship and intelligent attitudes. Mx ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:46:14 +0000 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] London gig this Saturday Good for you - we expect a full report On 8 Feb 2007, at 19:11, Martin Stockman wrote: > Yes, I've received the call.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of > Richard Evans > Sent: 08 February 2007 19:03 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] London gig this Saturday > > Nope - anyone with anything???? > > Cheers > > Richard > > On 8 Feb 2007, at 11:41, Martin Stockman wrote: > >> Anyone received notification of tickets yet? >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> _____ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _____ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: > 2/7/2007 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: > 2/7/2007 > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _____ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:06:20 +0100 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry uncovered Ketty Lester-River of Salt This one especialy for Jocelyn! From a NME interview: Ketty Lester with "River Of Salt", a slow ballad featuring the Ferry harmonica. "That's a dark horse", he explains. "I'm probably the only person in England with a copy of that. It reminds me of when I used to be in Gasboard in Newcastle - in fact, this whole LP does. Did you know I once sang 'Strangers In The Night' in a talent contest in a working men's club? Didn't win the prize though." He smiles. "I vowed, that night. . ." He stay's very close to the original. And what a lyrics.... River of salt Flowing from my eyes Seems as though I can't realize My love is gone She's left this town River of salt Keeps flowing down Day turns to night Still tears fall Since we're apart They won't stop at all River of salt What would we say if he recorded such a song in 2007? Are there any old Roxy lovers out there who bought For your pleasure and then this, and what did people thought about it at that time. The original is from 1962. you can listen to it here...it's not the best quality. but still very enjoyable. http://www.4shared.com/file/10292635/284b52e4/102_TFT_River_of_Salt_Ketty_Lester.html cheers Han ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:06:50 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers Rob says, "Ferry isn't different or unexpected enough to interest most nowadays. Its not that. Its a generation thing, and always will be. My 9 year old boy hears Ferry in the car, says "thats good, who is it?", I tell him, suggest I load it on his pod. No way. How would that play with his mates? Mamouna was different and unexpected, in its own way, and bombed. ATGB was conventional yet charming, and was short-listed for a Grammy. I think its is preposterous to imagine that a new RM album would have a feel of 72-73 Roxy. Staying cool is still the main rule, and these days that means a well cut Saville Row suit, no avante garde musical choices, but, as ever, the quest for aural perfection. That's enough for me. And lets not pretend that the rest of Roxy are pushing the envelope. Manzo ploughs an even more mainstream furrow with Gilmour et al, whilst Eno is producing, er, cough, Coldplay. Next to that Dylanesque is a wildly experimental. - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:09:15 -0800 (PST) From: Joel Hurd Subject: [AVALON] Misheard lyrics I always thought it strange that Fez would include a homage to Larry Grayson in his song "Tokyo Joe". Turns out that Bryan wasn't singing this after all: # VIPs purrin' "Shut that door!" # . . . Something new learned every day! - ---joel Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:35:36 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Anna Nicole Smith Very sad to see that Anna Nicole Smith has died. What a bizarre and, in many ways, tragic life she led. She appeared with Ferry in the Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow video. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 01:03:04 +0000 From: "Simon Allin" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers I don't usually post on here, but I've often wondered about this topic. Puxley had a Philosophy Phd; and a lot of the lyrics on Stranded, for instance, are very profound compared to some of the later efforts. If true it's a shame, really, because I like to think of Bryan as some kind of universal genius (at least, within the field of popular music). What's this about the silencing of Puxley's pen, anyway, KBP? I don't really know anything about that... >From: >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: RE: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers >Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:18:34 -0000 > >Ferry mentions Puxley as a big loss in the Word interview. When asked about >the near plane crash. > >Maybe it was Puxley who understood that Ferry had to produce something "out >of left field" to be successful, contradiction in terms though that is. > >Ferry isn't different or unexpected enough to interest most nowadays. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of >Martin Stockman >Sent: 08 February 2007 18:31 >To: 'KB Porter'; Avalon@smoe.org >Subject: RE: [AVALON] Old interview, new answers > >Hi K >I too am mildly obsessed with Dr P, and feel he was a far greater influence >on the canon than many better known players. We know that he co-wrote >Mother >Of Pearl, don't we? I was there when Bryan announced it to an audience. We >know Dr P was Rex Balfour, the author of the camp and delicious hagiography >of BF that surfaced in the late 70s. We know DR P set the tone for >EVERYTHING with the sleeve notes on the first album. I assume he had some >input on Dreamhome / San Simeon. He was part of the holy trinity of BF, >Anthony and himself.... Was he with Bryan in Derbyshire when For Your >Pleasure was written in a fortnight? (To read the press one would be >forgiven for thinking that Eno was there too....don't get me going..) > >I do think Dr P's demise may have something to do with how we've ended up >in >a rather less edgy, less glamorous era, albeit warmly cocooned in good >musicianship and intelligent attitudes. > >Mx > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Have you tried Windows Live Spaces? Tell us what you think! https://www.msnfeedback.com/perseus/surveys/961278308/6653c632.htm ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:06:24 +0000 From: philip77@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [AVALON] Ferry competition damn, no tickets for me. I wish I hadn't lied about my age. philip ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 03:53:53 EST From: Alanandalyj@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V12 #33 RIP Anna Nicole Thanks for Bryan sexiest video. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V12 #34 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest