From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V12 #19 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, January 25 2007 Volume 12 : Number 019 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... ["Christian H. Soetemann" ] RE: [AVALON] oh lordy... [] Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... [LeeSullivanart@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... ["Michiel van Sleen" ] Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... [jocelynfiske@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... [kwil632057@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] oh lordy... ["Cassidy, Chris J (RES)" ] Re: [AVALON] Dylanesque ["Ivor Canning" ] RE: [AVALON] oh lordy... ["Cassidy, Chris J (RES)" ] Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... ["Michiel van Sleen" ] Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... ["Christian H. Soetemann" ] RE: [AVALON] Dylanesque ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Dylanesque [kwil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Dylanesque [jocelynfiske@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Dylanesque [] Re: [AVALON] oh lordy...maybe.. ["Andrew Shearer" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:01:18 +0100 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... I think there is a photo of him as a young boy with one of his sisters in the Rex Balfour book. If it had been a collaboration, they would have used that one, I suppose. I wonder why BF has gone over to use photos that are about 15 years old - we all know he still has the looks. The cover didn't strike me as *that* bad, though. Personally, I wouldn't have used such a strident red for the name of the artist as that makes it look like a warning sign. This colour would have been more appropriate for a Modern Talking or Anastacia record or something. CHS > From: "Michiel van Sleen" > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:22:10 +0100 > To: "Avalon" > Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... > > You mean the 'smoking hand' statue? I'm afraid that was a joke, referring to > Ferry's habit of using old photo's. One of the oldest I know is of him > sitting next to said "objet d'art". That's also why I said the long hair > made him look young. Sorry to disappoint. He really blew his cover this > time, even though we all hoped and prayed he wouldn't blow it. > > And yes, I would have made a better looking cover. I've got one lying here > as we speak. Shame I can't show it. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:23:07 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] oh lordy... It's not very good is it? Still mustn't judge a book etc. Its a) OK for supermarket shelves b) at least he's on it rather than appearing half lit, apologetic like Bete Noire, Taxi.... c) probably cheap d) dodgy and looks jokey How much of the week was taken up thinking of using a pic from the Girl of my best friend cover? Maybe the back is a brilliant collection of new ideas. Then again maybe not. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:23:07 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] oh lordy... Oh and you can "buy with Borat" for only #22. seethe amazon link. Looking at the Borat cover - are you thinking what I'm thinking? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:31:23 EST From: LeeSullivanart@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... In a message dated 25/01/2007 00:08:42 GMT Standard Time, cassidys362@tiscali.co.uk writes: Looks like Dr Who? Dalekesque? And is that some kind of Quatermass type monster in the background or is Jerry Hall making a comeback? :-) As someone finally mentioned Skaro's finest, would like to point out the real Dalek/Ferry connection: in 'Breakfast on Pluto' which features a nutty kid roaming the streets in a homemade Dalek (who'd do something like that :)) threatening a character that is later nearly strangled by the Seedy Ruler. With silk. Lee S ____________________________________________ Easily distracted? Displacement activity a problem? Me too. Going to: _www.leesullivan.co.uk_ (http://www.leesullivan.co.uk/) or _www.roxymagic.co.uk_ (http://www.roxymagic.co.uk/) won't help either. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:58:03 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... :-) Warning: this album contains large quantities of Bryan Ferry Which one: the sulking one or, or the one with them both sticking their heads through a screen with painted bodies. I'm partial to the latter. Or - as he's been comparing these cover songs with interpreting Shakespeare - he could use the one with the fake beard and the Petruccio-Gonzalo outfit. I'm sure you know it. I agree that he shouldn't use old pictures; it seems to send a message that he has to use old material because his new stuff sucks big time. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian H. Soetemann" To: "Avalon" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... >I think there is a photo of him as a young boy with one of his sisters in > the Rex Balfour book. If it had been a collaboration, they would have used > that one, I suppose. > > I wonder why BF has gone over to use photos that are about 15 years old - > we > all know he still has the looks. > > The cover didn't strike me as *that* bad, though. Personally, I wouldn't > have used such a strident red for the name of the artist as that makes it > look like a warning sign. This colour would have been more appropriate for > a > Modern Talking or Anastacia record or something. > > CHS > >> From: "Michiel van Sleen" >> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:22:10 +0100 >> To: "Avalon" >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... >> >> You mean the 'smoking hand' statue? I'm afraid that was a joke, referring >> to >> Ferry's habit of using old photo's. One of the oldest I know is of him >> sitting next to said "objet d'art". That's also why I said the long hair >> made him look young. Sorry to disappoint. He really blew his cover this >> time, even though we all hoped and prayed he wouldn't blow it. >> >> And yes, I would have made a better looking cover. I've got one lying >> here >> as we speak. Shame I can't show it. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:00:14 -0500 From: jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... >It's not very good is it? Still mustn't judge a book etc. The later Ferry covers have never been iconic though have they really? Some of the enclosed imagery used for Bette Noire and Mamouna was beautiful - very Roxy, but the latter day stuff seems much more "cobbled". Call me old fashioned, but I don't mind the Bryan flees from the apocalyptic electric sub-station look. And I thought the taxi era shots pretty cool (maybe I'm biased as most of them featured seedy old arches under the Tyne Bridge - and we're all familiar with those!). Don't forget - just because you get older doesn't mean you grow less vain. I'm sure Ferry doesn't think he looks nearly as good as most people round here do. However, I have noticed it's not featured on vivaroxymusic anymore so maybe it's not the final choice. Who knows what the heckety goes on in the weird brain of Bryan Ferry (which I think the vibrant background might just be a scan of). Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:05:39 -0500 From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... But Bete Noire and Taxi had great covers! Very haunting and professional. Bete Noire is one of my favourites of all time. You do know that the shadows are intentional or would you rather a close up of his face with massive light removing any sense of atmosphere or texture? Dylanesque looks like it was knocked up on photoshop during a spare lunchtime - I'm appalled that an artist who used to pride himself on strong visual direction has guffed it up so dramatically. For a so-called pop art enthusiast it's horrible - who thought we'd ever see Bryan Ferry and cheap being used in the same sentence? J ps: And I quite like the album - it'll work very well live. -----Original Message----- From: rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10.23AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] oh lordy... b) at least he's on it rather than appearing half lit, apologetic like Bete Noire, Taxi.... ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:47:53 -0000 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (RES)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] oh lordy... Is that particular photo that old - it looks more recent than 15 yrs? I like that particular 'font' and colour but you do get the impression that this? album is working within a very tight budget - one week in the studio? Regards Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Christian H. Soetemann Sent: 25 January 2007 09:01 To: Avalon Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... I think there is a photo of him as a young boy with one of his sisters in the Rex Balfour book. If it had been a collaboration, they would have used that one, I suppose. I wonder why BF has gone over to use photos that are about 15 years old - we all know he still has the looks. The cover didn't strike me as *that* bad, though. Personally, I wouldn't have used such a strident red for the name of the artist as that makes it look like a warning sign. This colour would have been more appropriate for a Modern Talking or Anastacia record or something. CHS Disclaimer This e-mail (including any attachments) is only for the person or organisation it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient you must let me know immediately and then delete this e-mail. If you use this e-mail without permission, or if you allow anyone else to see, copy or distribute the e-mail, or if you do, or don't do something because you have read this e-mail, you may be breaking the law. Liability cannot be accepted for any loss or damage arising from this e-mail (or any attachments) or from incompatible scripts or any virus transmitted. E-mails and attachments sent to or received from staff and elected Members may be monitored and read and the right is reserved to reject or return or delete any which are considered to be inappropriate or unsuitable. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:18:23 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... I don't agree. I WANT hem to apologise. He REALLY SHOULD, like a beggar, on his knees, pleading, crying. BTW It sure does look like the Girl from my best friend-cover! He should turn this Dylanesque canvas to the wall, cut out pictures and etiquettes from glossy magazines and paste them with hobby glue all over his fingers on a big piece of paper. I'm sure it would be fantastic! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'Avalon'" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] oh lordy... > It's not very good is it? Still mustn't judge a book etc. > > Its > > a) OK for supermarket shelves > b) at least he's on it rather than appearing half lit, apologetic like > Bete > Noire, Taxi.... > c) probably cheap > d) dodgy and looks jokey > > How much of the week was taken up thinking of using a pic from the Girl of > my best friend cover? > > Maybe the back is a brilliant collection of new ideas. Then again maybe > not. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:34:57 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dylanesque Dr. Miriam Stockpile writes: > This album hangs together far better than Frantic. This is true. Of course, Lou Reed's 'Metal Machine Music' can be said to hang together well, too... S8^) OK, so I'm not a Dylan fan, despite (or perhaps because of) a school friend's evangelical fervour for the mumbling one. But then that's what covers are all about for me - the stamp of the new on the familiar, new facets on old gems or prising open the mind of the unbeliever. Which is why I'm disappointed in the rather bland arrangements on display here - everything seems to have been lifted straight from some Busker's Guide. Guitars chug gently or are strummed politely, pianos are arpeggiated only when strictly necessary, drums are struck smartly (but lightly) on the beat - it's all perilously close to country rock. Which is not to say I hate it - I don't, but I equally well can't get excited about it. At it's worst, this album is akin to taping a band audition or a pre-gig warm-up. ("Know any Dylan ?" "Yeah, how about 'All Along The Watchtower' " ? "Sure, what are the chords ?" ) All very competent and well played, of course, but safe, smooth, compressed and controlled. Like a set of Eric Clapton backing tracks. This certainly isn't progressive rock - not by a very long stretch of the imagination. It's all a far cry from the visionary remoulding of 'Hard Rain' or the smart thoughtful stylings of 'As Time Goes By' (an album I expected to hate but which won me over almost immediately). No, I'm afraid if I was pushed to give it a name it would have to be 'Dad-rock' and Martin has clearly swapped his love of pashmina and multi-hued swathes of sound for the warm slippers and pipe of AOR and C&W. Overall then, a disappointing written exam result. However, I expect the vivas will be all the better for a bit of volume and audience participation. 'Knocking On Heaven's Door' and 'All Along The Watchtower' should be barnstormers live. Regards, Ivor P.S. Is it just me or do the closing notes of 'Tom Thumb' recall the ending of 'Shame Shame Shame' ? And isn't the guitar figure in 'Simple Twist of Fate' (at around 3'50") remarkably similar to that in the solo to 'Heart On My Sleeve' ? Are there other hidden nods to 'Extended Play' lurking in there ??? n.p. Matching Mole 'One The Radio' - now see, THIS is more like progressive rock ! S;^) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:09:47 -0000 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (RES)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] oh lordy... Is that THE cover - or just promotional material? Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michiel van Sleen Sent: 25 January 2007 11:18 To: 'Avalon' Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... I don't agree. I WANT hem to apologise. He REALLY SHOULD, like a beggar, on his knees, pleading, crying. BTW It sure does look like the Girl from my best friend-cover! He should turn this Dylanesque canvas to the wall, cut out pictures and etiquettes from glossy magazines and paste them with hobby glue all over his fingers on a big piece of paper. I'm sure it would be fantastic! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'Avalon'" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] oh lordy... > It's not very good is it? Still mustn't judge a book etc. > > Its > > a) OK for supermarket shelves > b) at least he's on it rather than appearing half lit, apologetic like > Bete > Noire, Taxi.... > c) probably cheap > d) dodgy and looks jokey > > How much of the week was taken up thinking of using a pic from the Girl of > my best friend cover? > > Maybe the back is a brilliant collection of new ideas. Then again maybe > not. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Disclaimer This e-mail (including any attachments) is only for the person or organisation it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient you must let me know immediately and then delete this e-mail. If you use this e-mail without permission, or if you allow anyone else to see, copy or distribute the e-mail, or if you do, or don't do something because you have read this e-mail, you may be breaking the law. Liability cannot be accepted for any loss or damage arising from this e-mail (or any attachments) or from incompatible scripts or any virus transmitted. E-mails and attachments sent to or received from staff and elected Members may be monitored and read and the right is reserved to reject or return or delete any which are considered to be inappropriate or unsuitable. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:20:12 +0100 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... The one with the screen was the one going through my head. Now given this recent trend, I don't understand why he used a *painting* of a horse on "Mamouna" (my fav BF album, yes, you can all hate me for it, I don't care... anymore) - when there must have been the odd photo lying around depicting the pit ponies his father used to look after? OK, for the "remastered edition" then (with a remastered "Remastered" sticker)! CHS P.S.: Although the photo on the new cover seems to be an old one from the "Taxi" sessions, I do like it. That session brought quite a few good pictures evidently, and it cannot be said that the "Taxi" booklet photos exactly hid the artist away. > From: "Michiel van Sleen" > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:58:03 +0100 > To: "Avalon" > Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... > > :-) Warning: this album contains large quantities of Bryan Ferry > > Which one: the sulking one or, or the one with them both sticking their > heads through a screen with painted bodies. I'm partial to the latter. > Or - as he's been comparing these cover songs with interpreting > Shakespeare - he could use the one with the fake beard and the > Petruccio-Gonzalo outfit. I'm sure you know it. > > I agree that he shouldn't use old pictures; it seems to send a message that > he has to use old material because his new stuff sucks big time. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christian H. Soetemann" > To: "Avalon" > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... > > >> I think there is a photo of him as a young boy with one of his sisters in >> the Rex Balfour book. If it had been a collaboration, they would have used >> that one, I suppose. >> >> I wonder why BF has gone over to use photos that are about 15 years old - >> we >> all know he still has the looks. >> >> The cover didn't strike me as *that* bad, though. Personally, I wouldn't >> have used such a strident red for the name of the artist as that makes it >> look like a warning sign. This colour would have been more appropriate for >> a >> Modern Talking or Anastacia record or something. >> >> CHS >> >>> From: "Michiel van Sleen" >>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:22:10 +0100 >>> To: "Avalon" >>> Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... >>> >>> You mean the 'smoking hand' statue? I'm afraid that was a joke, referring >>> to >>> Ferry's habit of using old photo's. One of the oldest I know is of him >>> sitting next to said "objet d'art". That's also why I said the long hair >>> made him look young. Sorry to disappoint. He really blew his cover this >>> time, even though we all hoped and prayed he wouldn't blow it. >>> >>> And yes, I would have made a better looking cover. I've got one lying >>> here >>> as we speak. Shame I can't show it. >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:43:28 +0100 From: "A. van Lammeren" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dylanesque Hi all, I just had to chime in for a moment. Thank you all for the wonderful reviews of Dylanesque. Times have changed, no posting of the lyrics day by day - remember the ATGB days Han? Vivaroxymusic has everything. I'm still in the process of taking in 'the originals'... Everyone all the best with teeth, feet and all, Tara, Anton. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:13:47 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... I love Mamouna as well, tasty, sweet and dark, like my coffee (and unlike my women). And yes, Romantic paintings suit the musical atmosphere far better than his lemony smiles on bleaching photo's. He's cleaning up if you ask me.His next album should be called GARAGE SALE, showing an adolescent Ferry selling old junk. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian H. Soetemann" To: "Avalon" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... > The one with the screen was the one going through my head. Now given this > recent trend, I don't understand why he used a *painting* of a horse on > "Mamouna" (my fav BF album, yes, you can all hate me for it, I don't > care... > anymore) - when there must have been the odd photo lying around depicting > the pit ponies his father used to look after? OK, for the "remastered > edition" then (with a remastered "Remastered" sticker)! > > CHS > > P.S.: Although the photo on the new cover seems to be an old one from the > "Taxi" sessions, I do like it. That session brought quite a few good > pictures evidently, and it cannot be said that the "Taxi" booklet photos > exactly hid the artist away. > >> From: "Michiel van Sleen" >> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:58:03 +0100 >> To: "Avalon" >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... >> >> :-) Warning: this album contains large quantities of Bryan Ferry >> >> Which one: the sulking one or, or the one with them both sticking their >> heads through a screen with painted bodies. I'm partial to the latter. >> Or - as he's been comparing these cover songs with interpreting >> Shakespeare - he could use the one with the fake beard and the >> Petruccio-Gonzalo outfit. I'm sure you know it. >> >> I agree that he shouldn't use old pictures; it seems to send a message >> that >> he has to use old material because his new stuff sucks big time. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christian H. Soetemann" >> To: "Avalon" >> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... >> >> >>> I think there is a photo of him as a young boy with one of his sisters >>> in >>> the Rex Balfour book. If it had been a collaboration, they would have >>> used >>> that one, I suppose. >>> >>> I wonder why BF has gone over to use photos that are about 15 years >>> old - >>> we >>> all know he still has the looks. >>> >>> The cover didn't strike me as *that* bad, though. Personally, I wouldn't >>> have used such a strident red for the name of the artist as that makes >>> it >>> look like a warning sign. This colour would have been more appropriate >>> for >>> a >>> Modern Talking or Anastacia record or something. >>> >>> CHS >>> >>>> From: "Michiel van Sleen" >>>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:22:10 +0100 >>>> To: "Avalon" >>>> Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... >>>> >>>> You mean the 'smoking hand' statue? I'm afraid that was a joke, >>>> referring >>>> to >>>> Ferry's habit of using old photo's. One of the oldest I know is of him >>>> sitting next to said "objet d'art". That's also why I said the long >>>> hair >>>> made him look young. Sorry to disappoint. He really blew his cover this >>>> time, even though we all hoped and prayed he wouldn't blow it. >>>> >>>> And yes, I would have made a better looking cover. I've got one lying >>>> here >>>> as we speak. Shame I can't show it. >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:59:19 +0100 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... Ah, OK, I didn't know that the next album would be another Greatest Hits Collection... (he, he) CHS > From: "Michiel van Sleen" > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:13:47 +0100 > To: "Avalon" > Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... > > I love Mamouna as well, tasty, sweet and dark, like my coffee (and unlike my > women). > And yes, Romantic paintings suit the musical atmosphere far better than his > lemony smiles on bleaching photo's. > He's cleaning up if you ask me.His next album should be called GARAGE SALE, > showing an adolescent Ferry selling old junk. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:41:42 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... Yes you DID! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian H. Soetemann" To: "Avalon" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... > Ah, OK, I didn't know that the next album would be another Greatest Hits > Collection... (he, he) > > CHS > >> From: "Michiel van Sleen" >> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:13:47 +0100 >> To: "Avalon" >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... >> >> I love Mamouna as well, tasty, sweet and dark, like my coffee (and unlike >> my >> women). >> And yes, Romantic paintings suit the musical atmosphere far better than >> his >> lemony smiles on bleaching photo's. >> He's cleaning up if you ask me.His next album should be called GARAGE >> SALE, >> showing an adolescent Ferry selling old junk. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:47:59 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Dylanesque Bit harsh Ivor. Definitions of musical styles are an art not a science. Country to me means one thing and to, say, Reecey, something else entirely. Ditto prog rock. But a lot of what you write rings true - especially the withering Clapton comparison. The strange thing is that I still really like Dylanesque despite its modest aspirations. I like that chugging sound. I like his breathy voice. I like the sensitive inflections. I really like the harmonica. I think Just Like Tom Thumbs Blues is as good as anything he's done. (Yes I wish he's explored more the darker songs like this.)At the moment I'm thinking better than Frantic, Taxi, Mamouna, Bete Noire, ATAP, and not quite as good as ATGB, TFT, and no-where near as good as Bride and B&G. ............................................................................ .................................................. Dr. Miriam Stockpile writes: > This album hangs together far better than Frantic. This is true. - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:10:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Turner Subject: RE: [AVALON] Dylanesque Couple of Dylanesque titbits for you... Support on the UK tour will be 'Smoke Fairies' and 'Barefoot'. Paul Morley, of whom I'm a great admirer, has apparently written the sleeve notes for Dylanesque. I can't remember anyone other than Puxley being engaged to do that before. Morley, who calls a spade a spade, declared the album to be 'wonderful'. Finally well done to Flangebracket on the new album cover. Had me fooled... Chris (a little bit country, a little bit rock n' roll...) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:50:22 -0500 From: kwil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dylanesque Didn't Michael Bracewell do the marvellous notes for the Platinum Collection just a couple of years ago? Surely they haven't stooped to enlist rent-an-opinion, Paul Morley, star of "100 Greatest TV Listing Shows" ? How'd they get him to do it? And what a surprise that he thinks the album's 'wonderful' - he's being paid to write the sleeve notes. He might call a spade a spade but he knows which side his bread is buttered! J -----Original Message----- From: roxyrama@yahoo.co.uk To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 4.10PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Dylanesque Couple of Dylanesque titbits for you... Support on the UK tour will be 'Smoke Fairies' and 'Barefoot'. Paul Morley, of whom I'm a great admirer, has apparently written the sleeve notes for Dylanesque. I can't remember anyone other than Puxley being engaged to do that before. Morley, who calls a spade a spade, declared the album to be 'wonderful'. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:13:40 -0500 From: jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dylanesque Paul Morely, man of such superb taste that he also describes Celebrity Big Brother as magnificent. And the man who used to get on the same train stop as me in Manchester with a full bottle of Jack Daniels and arrive at the Free Trade Hall with an empty one, then complete a review of superlatives/venom depending on how bad his hangover was when the truth was he saw nothing and spent the gig collapsed covered in his own vomit. Blimey, that brings back memories of another BF lackey - remember Mad Affair One? I think I still have jpegs somewhere. -----Original Message----- From: kwil632057@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dylanesque Didn't Michael Bracewell do the marvellous notes for the Platinum Collection just a couple of years ago? Surely they haven't stooped to enlist rent-an-opinion, Paul Morley, star of "100 Greatest TV Listing Shows" ? How'd they get him to do it? And what a surprise that he thinks the album's 'wonderful' - he's being paid to write the sleeve notes. He might call a spade a spade but he knows which side his bread is buttered! J ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:25:53 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Dylanesque Give him a spiv moustache like in Breakfast on Pluto, face him to the front, shove something somewhere painful, and call the album Boratesque, and it'll capture the public imagination. I haven't heard it but I'm getting more worried by the day from the opinions of those who have. They sound disappointed and bored. ATGB generated strong opinions, this hasn't, just sort of "its ok but if it wasn't Ferry I wouldn't listen to again" type comments. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:33:00 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy...maybe.. Wasn't there some confusion over the cover for Frantic too? Chris Turner refers to "Flangebracket", does this mean that this isn't the real cover? As regards the photos / art I'm surprised he hasn't used the shots that were done at the time of Frantic - a bit greying but dignified. (He'll probabaly use those in twenty years time). He seems to have lost the "dignity" / coolness somehow, but maybe that's intentional, maybe he regrets being "so cool", maybe he thinks it's held him back? And now he's trying to inject a bit of life into it all again, hang loose and not be so worried about the art work or the tracks so much? He'll probably make as much money from this (if not more) than he did for Mamouna and for minimal effort and maybe a bit more fun. Maybe it's another Taxi to help the writing (for the Roxy Album, Solo)? Lots of maybes, just my thoughts. Andrew >From: jocelynfiske@aol.com >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:00:14 -0500 > >>It's not very good is it? Still mustn't judge a book etc. > >The later Ferry covers have never been iconic though have they really? >Some of the enclosed imagery used for Bette Noire and Mamouna was beautiful >- very Roxy, but the latter day stuff seems much more "cobbled". >Call me old fashioned, but I don't mind the Bryan flees from the >apocalyptic electric sub-station look. >And I thought the taxi era shots pretty cool (maybe I'm biased as most of >them featured seedy old arches under the Tyne Bridge - and we're all >familiar with those!). Don't forget - just because you get older doesn't >mean you grow less vain. I'm sure Ferry doesn't think he looks nearly as >good as most people round here do. >However, I have noticed it's not featured on vivaroxymusic anymore so maybe >it's not the final choice. >Who knows what the heckety goes on in the weird brain of Bryan Ferry (which >I think the vibrant background might just be a scan of). > >Jocelyn > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:26:46 -0500 From: Helen Thorpe Subject: [AVALON] Excuse me, but does this "artwork" come with Gravol? What a pile of total, umitigated garbage. The snap is from Boys & Girs, by the looks of it - reminds me of a video frame-grab from one of the videos from that album. And what's all going on behind The Fez? Is that supposed to be psychedelic? Looks more psychotic. This could be one of the few times in my life that I'm glad of the smaller artwork of the CD cover. Imagine having that cover the size of an LP. Give me 5 minutes, on location, with Ferry and I guarantee a much more tasteful and appropriate cover. Oh - and the lettering is crap, too; isn't it. Any idea what the Canadian release date is? Or should I order from Amazon UK, and team it up with the "Perfect Partner" of Borat? Borat?? WTF??? Helen Back to my lurking, now. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:39:07 EST From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] oh lordy... In a message dated 1/25/07 6:06:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: > it seems to send a message that > he has to use old material because his new stuff sucks big time. Yes, yes, yes, the cover sucks major hose. Perhaps it's Suck-o-esque. ? It's even worse than FUGLY.. Often someone in a band has an "artistic" girlfriend or something. I think someone on-list was spot on when thay noted one of BF's brave sons might have gotten Photoshop for his computer for Christmas. Let's hope the book/cover thang holds true. Regards, R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:17:28 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dylanesque Martino admonishes: > Bit harsh Ivor. Maybe so - but, in truth, if this album had come from anyone else I probably wouldn't have given it a second listen. Like a caring schoolmaster, I'm only critical because I think he's capable of (and has delivered) so much better. I'm not saying it's rubbish - just that I don't see the 'value added' in terms of covering these songs in such an unremarkable way. Of course, I am also acutely aware that this is an album that buys Roxy (with TGPT, I would hope) some more time and for that alone I should probably just shut up and be grateful. > Definitions of musical styles are an art not a science. Yes, of course - like all language. > Country to me means one thing and to, say, Reecey, something else > entirely. > Ditto prog rock. But, short of posting snippets of audio on Avalon, we need these descriptions. Therefore we need a common understanding and an agreed lexicon of these terms for them to be useful. I'm sure if I described 'Dylanesque' as 'reggae' or 'gangsta rap' most people would find it wide of the mark - same goes for 'progressive' (even though it is quite a catholic church). It seems to me, though, that Reecey's 'country' and your own term 'country rock' aren't exactly THAT far away from each other ! > I think Just Like Tom Thumbs Blues is as good as anything he's > done. Really ? As good as 'Hard Rain, 'In Crowd', 'Shame Shame Shame', 'LST', 'You Go To My Head', 'These Foolish Things', 'You Put A Spell On Me', 'Lowlands Low', 'The Cruel Ship's Captain' ? Now THAT surprises me. Regards, Ivor n.p. Steve Hillage 'Fish Rising' (the new remaster) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V12 #19 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest