From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V12 #9 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, January 16 2007 Volume 12 : Number 009 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Manifesto [] Re: [AVALON] Manifesto ["Michiel van Sleen" ] Re: [AVALON] Manifesto [jocelynfiske@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Manifesto [jocelynfiske@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Manifesto ["Michiel van Sleen" ] RE: [AVALON] Manifesto [] Re: [AVALON] Manifesto ["Michiel van Sleen" ] Re: [AVALON] Manifesto ["Michiel van Sleen" ] Re: [AVALON] Manifesto [jocelynfiske@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Manifesto ["Michiel van Sleen" ] RE: [AVALON] Manifesto [] [AVALON] Times they are a changin [cassidys362@tiscali.co.uk] RE: [AVALON] Manifesto [] RE: [AVALON] Hear The new Single ["Martin Stockman" ] RE: [AVALON] Hear The new Single [] Re: [AVALON] Manifesto ["Michiel van Sleen" ] RE: [AVALON] Manifesto [] Re: [AVALON] Manifesto ["Michiel van Sleen" ] RE: [AVALON] This Is Londion Review Of Dylanesque [cassidys362@tiscali.co] Re: [AVALON] This Is Londion Review Of Dylanesque ["Michiel van Sleen" ] [AVALON] Ferry records album in a week shock [philip77@tiscali.co.uk] RE: [AVALON] DVD and 'The Times..' [cassidys362@tiscali.co.uk] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:12:05 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Manifesto As an aside "manifesto" is cruelly overlooked as a track - excellent, and a superb lyric. "I am that I am from out of nowhere". Ferry is usually semi detached from his songs, but in manifesto its "I this" "I that" put across with real power. Pity its on that album really. Rob - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michiel van Sleen Sent: 15 January 2007 08:57 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto What we of course really mean to say is that the background music sounds quite Ferryish... And with Kate having posed with Bryan's sons for Burberry... and both of them having been voted Coolest Brits if my memory serves me well (they'd get my vote, I love Kate because of her beauty AND her flaws)... so could he be the composer? Not likely that he would remain anonymous... I didn't see any other composer mentioned but maybe I overlooked. Michiel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:28:50 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto Yes, I did overlook the composer. It's Arlen Figgis. Who the fig is this Arlen Figgis? An anagram of Glian Fergis, aka Bryan Ferry? No, he does exist and has edited and directed several movies, and made some scores as well. Oh well, maybe it was my own dream in which Ferry and Kate would cooperate. I used to dream of Ferry working with Kate Bush, but Kate Moss would be even better. I'd better hold out when I'm in doubt, question what I see. And when I find the answer, I'll bring it home to thee. Michiel - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michiel van Sleen" To: Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto > What we of course really mean to say is that the background music sounds > quite Ferryish... > And with Kate having posed with Bryan's sons for Burberry... and both of > them having been voted Coolest Brits if my memory serves me well (they'd > get my vote, I love Kate because of her beauty AND her flaws)... so could > he be the composer? Not likely that he would remain anonymous... > I didn't see any other composer mentioned but maybe I overlooked. > > Michiel > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:25 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto > > >> In a message dated 14/01/2007 15:58:22 GMT Standard Time, >> Chandla911@aol.com >> writes: >> >> At _http://www.agentprovocateur.com/_ (http://www.agentprovocateur.com/) >> in >> the Dreams of Miss X: Dream 3 (just released), Kate Moss performs a full >> strip before an audience of mannequins and herself. >> >> >> >> Well, I feel all icky now. >> >> Has this list turned into pervs 'r' us now? >> >> J >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 05:36:48 -0500 From: jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto >As an aside "manifesto" is cruelly overlooked as a track - excellent, and a superb lyric. "I am that I am from out of nowhere". Ferry is usually semi detached from his songs, but in manifesto its "I this" "I that" Rob Sorry to disappoint Rob, but it's not the usually semi-detached Ferry (there's a thesis right there) becoming suddenly emotionally terraced, it is an homage to Claus Oldenburg's "I am for" manifesto of 1961. Pop Art influenced to the end. I am for art that does something other than sit on its ass in a museum. I am for an art that is put on and taken off, like pants, which develop holes, like socks, which is eaten, like a piece of pie, or abandoned with great contempt, like a piece of shit etc, etc. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 05:49:10 -0500 From: jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto >Oh well, maybe it was my own dream in which Ferry and Kate would cooperate. I used to dream of Ferry working with Kate Bush, but Kate Moss would be even better. Well if she doesn't make it onto a Babyshambles cover she could always be the Roxy girl for 2007. Oh, but historically they've all been on the Fez casting couch before featuring on original material Roxy albums covers (no verification in the case of the manifesto models). Isabella Blown B ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:56:03 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto Now I feel all icky :-) I'm sure that no writer's block lead him to sing any old song. He could have picked any old Dylan song. He didn't choose these lyrics for nothing. You don't sing a manifesto without meaning most of the contents. Michiel - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto > >As an aside "manifesto" is cruelly overlooked as a track - excellent, > and a > superb lyric. > "I am that I am from out of nowhere". Ferry is usually semi detached from > his songs, but in manifesto its "I this" "I that" > Rob > > Sorry to disappoint Rob, but it's not the usually semi-detached Ferry > (there's a thesis right there) becoming suddenly emotionally terraced, it > is an homage to Claus Oldenburg's "I am for" manifesto of 1961. Pop Art > influenced to the end. > I am for art that does something other than sit on its ass in a museum. > I am for an art that is put on and taken off, like pants, which develop > holes, like socks, which is eaten, like a piece of pie, or abandoned with > great contempt, like a piece of shit etc, etc. > > Jocelyn > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:01:23 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Manifesto You should like this new album then! :) Should have known he "stole" it from somewhere Cheers Rob - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of jocelynfiske@aol.com Sent: 15 January 2007 10:37 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto >As an aside "manifesto" is cruelly overlooked as a track - excellent, and a superb lyric. "I am that I am from out of nowhere". Ferry is usually semi detached from his songs, but in manifesto its "I this" "I that" Rob Sorry to disappoint Rob, but it's not the usually semi-detached Ferry (there's a thesis right there) becoming suddenly emotionally terraced, it is an homage to Claus Oldenburg's "I am for" manifesto of 1961. Pop Art influenced to the end. I am for art that does something other than sit on its ass in a museum. I am for an art that is put on and taken off, like pants, which develop holes, like socks, which is eaten, like a piece of pie, or abandoned with great contempt, like a piece of shit etc, etc. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:02:24 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto Kate dancing for Babyshambles to the music of Slave to Drug. I'm afraid a Roxy girl never looked sweet, but always as cold as ice. Maybe that has changed by now, and their ideal woman would be like icecream, cold and sweet. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto > >Oh well, maybe it was my own dream in which Ferry and Kate would > cooperate. I used to dream of Ferry working with Kate Bush, but Kate Moss > would be even better. > > Well if she doesn't make it onto a Babyshambles cover she could always be > the Roxy girl for 2007. Oh, but historically they've all been on the Fez > casting couch before featuring on original material Roxy albums covers (no > verification in the case of the manifesto models). > > Isabella Blown > B > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:05:49 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto Mike Figgis and Arlen Figgis... Hold on, I'm onto something! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'Michiel van Sleen'" ; Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Manifesto > As an aside "manifesto" is cruelly overlooked as a track - excellent, and > a > superb lyric. > > "I am that I am from out of nowhere". Ferry is usually semi detached from > his songs, but in manifesto its "I this" "I that" put across with real > power. Pity its on that album really. > > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Michiel van Sleen > Sent: 15 January 2007 08:57 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto > > What we of course really mean to say is that the background music sounds > quite Ferryish... > And with Kate having posed with Bryan's sons for Burberry... and both of > them having been voted Coolest Brits if my memory serves me well (they'd > get > > my vote, I love Kate because of her beauty AND her flaws)... so could he > be > the composer? Not likely that he would remain anonymous... > I didn't see any other composer mentioned but maybe I overlooked. > > Michiel > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:11:21 -0500 From: jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto B >I'm afraid a Roxy girl never looked sweet... Oh I don't know, Amanda Lear always looked like a nice boy. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:20:37 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto Those were strange days. Bowie used a moniker to say: I'm a lad insane, and the girl that was Dali's muse used her name to reveal: I'm a man, Dali! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto >B > >I'm afraid a Roxy girl never looked sweet... > > Oh I don't know, Amanda Lear always looked like a nice boy. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:21:51 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Manifesto Ferry was quoted (in Q magazine around Taxi time I think but couldn't certain) as saying, in response to Mike Figgis saying he had a warble in his voice, that Figgis had been "F***ing rude". For a cool bloke theres been a couple of outbursts, the best by a country mile being the ones after the Bride Stripped Bare flopped. Someone will have the exact quote but it was along the lines of - I'm carrying on cos I'm good. I am one of the best people currently working in this field and if some people don't realize that then they must be pretty F***ing stupid. That's why I take so little notice of the so called music journalists who are mostly ill informed and illiterate idiots. And the coup de grace "and as far as I'm concerned at the moment, everyone can just go and F*** themselves". Magnificent. He could make a lyric out of that. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michiel van Sleen Sent: 15 January 2007 11:06 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto Mike Figgis and Arlen Figgis... Hold on, I'm onto something! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:08:21 +0000 From: cassidys362@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [AVALON] Times they are a changin Morning Campers Jolly little rendition - not as powerful a lyric as it might have been - bit murky in the mix, probably my PC speakers (think I prefer the original vocal) but zips along with a nice riff and some laid-back pluckin' - obviously resisted the temptation to pop a bit of harmonica in - unless I missed it? Not checked the lyrics but is it the full monte or has it been shortened? Will get plenty of airplay on Radio 2 and local radio - a possible minor hit? All good publicity for the Album anyhow. Best wishes Chris ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:27:03 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Manifesto Has he boned the lot of them then? Including the Flesh & Blood models? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of jocelynfiske@aol.com Sent: 15 January 2007 11:11 To: mvsleen@hotmail.com; avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto B >I'm afraid a Roxy girl never looked sweet... Oh I don't know, Amanda Lear always looked like a nice boy. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:26:31 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Hear The new Single I think its glorious. Appears to still favour that "Cruel" groove rather than, say, the piano based stakness of Dont think Twice, and thats good news. Production a tad heavy?? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Guy Lawley Sent: 14 January 2007 15:25 To: JohnOBrien001@aol.com; avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Hear The new Single I rather like it on one listening. Big thanks to J O'B for the link. When I listen to Dylan singing The Times They Are A-Changing it always brings to mind the 1960s and in particular the Civil Rights issue of the time. Hearing BF sing it didn't automatically make that connection; instead I found lines like "Yours sons and daughters are beyond your command" taking on a very contemporary resonance. The worries myself and my friends, my brother and sister, have about their own kids, and the world they are growing up in, came to mind. My nephews, niece, god-children in other words. Any thoughts about the relevance of the lyric to any of BF's own brood were only an afterthought! If the times still are a changing since the 60s changes that Dylan was singing about (and I think the changes have accelerated) the song might strike a chord with a lot of listeners - let's hope so. Yours, off to Amazon to do a little shopping! Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of JohnOBrien001@aol.com Sent: 13 January 2007 16:53 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Hear The new Single You can hear the new single online (while BBC still have it on their site) Details: _http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/news_20070112a.shtml_ (http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/news_20070112a.shtml) J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007 - -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:45:08 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto I know, Rob. At the time he said the word F*** more often than an average Tarentino- or Scorsese-movie. I remember the New York Times interviewer answering him: What the F*** was that you F****n' p***k was syin? Maybe it's my f****n' ears, I taught you were showin me f****n' disrespect. You're f****n' breakin' my b***s, I swear to God! Can you believe this guy? What the f**k's the matter with him! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'Michiel van Sleen'" ; Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Manifesto > Ferry was quoted (in Q magazine around Taxi time I think but couldn't > certain) as saying, in response to Mike Figgis saying he had a warble in > his > voice, that Figgis had been "F***ing rude". > > For a cool bloke theres been a couple of outbursts, the best by a country > mile being the ones after the Bride Stripped Bare flopped. > > Someone will have the exact quote but it was along the lines of - > > I'm carrying on cos I'm good. I am one of the best people currently > working > in this field and if some people don't realize that then they must be > pretty > F***ing stupid. That's why I take so little notice of the so called music > journalists who are mostly ill informed and illiterate idiots. > > And the coup de grace > > "and as far as I'm concerned at the moment, everyone can just go and F*** > themselves". > > Magnificent. He could make a lyric out of that. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Michiel van Sleen > Sent: 15 January 2007 11:06 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto > > Mike Figgis and Arlen Figgis... Hold on, I'm onto something! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:47:39 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Hear The new Single I found it hard to tell on the Laptops rubbish speakers - but certainly agree about the cruel vs dtt. From the review I believe we are not to be spared piano ballads though - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Martin Stockman Sent: 15 January 2007 11:27 To: 'Guy Lawley'; JohnOBrien001@aol.com; avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Hear The new Single I think its glorious. Appears to still favour that "Cruel" groove rather than, say, the piano based stakness of Dont think Twice, and thats good news. Production a tad heavy?? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:47:37 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto Quick ladies, cover your ears! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Manifesto > Has he boned the lot of them then? Including the Flesh & Blood models? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > jocelynfiske@aol.com > Sent: 15 January 2007 11:11 > To: mvsleen@hotmail.com; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto > > B > >I'm afraid a Roxy girl never looked sweet... > > Oh I don't know, Amanda Lear always looked like a nice boy. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:58:03 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Manifesto Ooops - sorry for any offence - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michiel van Sleen Sent: 15 January 2007 11:48 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto Quick ladies, cover your ears! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Manifesto > Has he boned the lot of them then? Including the Flesh & Blood models? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > jocelynfiske@aol.com > Sent: 15 January 2007 11:11 > To: mvsleen@hotmail.com; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto > > B > >I'm afraid a Roxy girl never looked sweet... > > Oh I don't know, Amanda Lear always looked like a nice boy. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:40:36 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto No no, I just thought you were going to sing. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'Michiel van Sleen'" ; Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Manifesto > Ooops - sorry for any offence > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Michiel van Sleen > Sent: 15 January 2007 11:48 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto > > Quick ladies, cover your ears! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; ; > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:27 PM > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Manifesto > > >> Has he boned the lot of them then? Including the Flesh & Blood models? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of >> jocelynfiske@aol.com >> Sent: 15 January 2007 11:11 >> To: mvsleen@hotmail.com; avalon@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manifesto >> >> B >> >I'm afraid a Roxy girl never looked sweet... >> >> Oh I don't know, Amanda Lear always looked like a nice boy. >> >> >> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:48:21 +0000 From: cassidys362@tiscali.co.uk Subject: RE: [AVALON] This Is Londion Review Of Dylanesque I suppose in reality this is a 35 year work-in-progress (or even longer?) >-- Original Message -- >Reply-To: >From: >To: >Subject: RE: [AVALON] This Is Londion Review Of Dylanesque >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:52:17 -0000 > > >We wait half a decade and the great man records his next LP in a week. > >I bet its none the worse for it either. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of >Colleen Matan >Sent: 12 January 2007 16:32 >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] This Is Londion Review Of Dylanesque > >> Recorded in just a week, > > >Interesting. > >Colleen > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:37:36 +0100 From: "Michiel van Sleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] This Is Londion Review Of Dylanesque Maybe Mister Ferry's voice (or His Masters Voice) will sound remarkably youthful on some of the tracks. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] This Is Londion Review Of Dylanesque >I suppose in reality this is a 35 year work-in-progress (or even longer?) > >>-- Original Message -- >>Reply-To: >>From: >>To: >>Subject: RE: [AVALON] This Is Londion Review Of Dylanesque >>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:52:17 -0000 >> >> >>We wait half a decade and the great man records his next LP in a week. >> >>I bet its none the worse for it either. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of >>Colleen Matan >>Sent: 12 January 2007 16:32 >>To: avalon@smoe.org >>Subject: Re: [AVALON] This Is Londion Review Of Dylanesque >> >>> Recorded in just a week, >> >> >>Interesting. >> >>Colleen >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:51:21 -0500 From: "KB Porter" Subject: RE: [AVALON] This Is Londion Review Of Dylanesque "Maybe Mister Ferry's voice (or His Masters Voice) will sound remarkably youthful on some of the tracks." Oh my, he's gone off his meds then - wonder what his master's telling him now... "F**k you slave boy. I'm gonna make you do another quickie covers album just to spite the F**king world and f**kin' make you sing off-key. Screw you, dog... Maybe 'Lay Lady Lay' isn't such a bad-a** idea - yah, your gonna listen to me even if I've got to damn well show you how good I am by making you fail ferry!" No. Wait - that's my Masters Voice - not Ferry's. Medicine time, anyone? Ornery Today. K ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:50:54 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: [AVALON] Dylan, Simon Cowell and Danny baker in today's Times The older I get I find less things really annoy me but I am unrepentant and unswerving in my belief that X Factor / American Idol et al represents all that I hate in modern life; fake, greedy, ugly, venal, and vulgar. Which brings me on to Simon Cowell. And Danny Baker's crushing, brilliant, attack on the X Factor host in todays Times. Yes, there is a God. Here I quote the wonderful Bakerman(not cutting and pasting this, actually writing it all out on my keys..) "It is easy to characterise meglomaniacal money-hoover Simon Cowell as a horses ass. So lets start. In the new edition of Playboy the man whose exquisite taste has brought us such delicacies as Sinitta, Sonia, Five, and The Mighty Morphin Power Rangers gives us the further benefit of his musical infallibility. The target of his bile is none other Bob Dylan, many people's idea of the greatest musician of the past half-century. Not Simon's: From inside TV's tightest black T Shirt he sneers, I've got to tell you, if I had 10 Dylans in the final of American Idol we would not be getting 30 million viewers per week. I've never bought a Dylan record. A singing poet? It just bores me to tears. " He goes on to analyse further the widely-adored, Grammy-winning, Oscar-winning, Nobel prize-nominated genius who dragged popular music into the modern world thus: Too ugly, too boring, too whiney, too serious. Brilliant. (This is the best bit  MS) Cowell is one of the culture criminals who have ensured that modern pop music is dominated by perma-grinning clothes rails whose tissue-thin talent would, just a decade ago, have got them no farther than a summer season on a cruise ship. Youd think that hed keep his trap shut, continue his diabolical work and carry on quietly trousering the readies. But no, the profoundly thick are only truly happy when they are displaying their ignorance like an Asbo or a home-made tattoo" You gotta admit its great stuff, and for the first time in my life I feel moved to write to a publication and thank a writer for capturing so succinctly my feelings. - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/628 - Release Date: 1/15/2007 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:16:01 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Dylan, Simon Cowell and Danny baker in today's Times Yes its depressing that it does keep the viewers when every last ounce of originality in contestants is coached out of them. How many artists, as opposed to singers, would just fail the auditions for X Factor - Bowie - "you're weird mate" - youre not thru to the next round Ferry - "you cant sing at all mate that was out of tune" - youre not thru to the next round Bolan - "sounds like glam rock from the 70's - youre not thru to the next round" Mariah Carey - "AMAZING VOCAL PYROTECHNICS, YOU SHOULD BE EVEN MORE BIG HEADED THAN YOU ARE WITH A VOICE LIKE THAT" - YOURE THROUGH ALONG WITH ROBBIE WILLIAMS IF WE CAN TONE HIM DOWN A BIT. Depressingly hes right about the audiences tho, theres a lot of people who seem to like over produced, vacuous garbage. Martin quotes: "From inside TV's tightest black T Shirt he sneers, I've got to tell you, if I had 10 Dylans in the final of American Idol we would not be getting 30 million viewers per week. I've never bought a Dylan record. A singing poet? It just bores me to tears. " ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:29:48 EST From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] This Is Londion Review Of Dylanesque Oh. Kay, that's from you! I thought John Reechy had joined the list. All this F**K'ing reminds me of the (perhaps apocryphal) story of Tallula Bankhead being introduced to Norman Mailer. Mr. Mailer coined the word "fug" so that his novel, The Naked And The Dead, (1948) could pass the censors. "Miss Bankhead I'd like for you to meet Norman Mailer." "Oh Dahling, so you're that man who can't spell fuck!" Regards, R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:18:46 +0000 From: Mark Subject: [AVALON] DVD and 'The Times..' Firstly- does anyone know where to get the new DVD? Amazon are saying you can only get it via the US and it seems to have disappeared off all other vendors' sites. Secondly, listened to the snippet of 'The times they are a changin' on the Ken Bruce show and was not very impressed- it sounded like it had been knocked out quickly. I sincerely hope there's something better than this on the album. What I'm hoping for is some of the brilliant invention we've seen in other covers such as Hard rain- am I hoping for too much? Maybe it's just too easy to go into the studio and knock out an album of passable but not very interesting covers in a week when you;ve got Colin Good next to you. Ho- hum, I think I'll wait to see what it's like before I buy. Mactheaxe ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:10:19 +0000 From: philip77@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [AVALON] Ferry records album in a week shock Dylanesque has been made to keep the Roxy hordes at bay, has it not.? Let's face it , we were surprised and intrigued to find Ferry releasing a solo album of ready mades. Put the Roxy album back a few months, I bet. Philip ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:51:57 +0000 From: cassidys362@tiscali.co.uk Subject: RE: [AVALON] DVD and 'The Times..' One thing I've never done is wait and see whether a 'new' ferry or roxy album will be 'any good' - how can you possibly tell on one or even several listens - - why not give the old man the benefit of the doubt - given his track record? But I would doubt there'll be anything as brilliant as Hard Rain on there - - the times thay have a changed! For one thing he hasn't the vocal range anymore but you never know - Ferry may surprise us - there's usually at least two or three gems, as there were on Frantic and As Time Goes By! >-- Original Message -- >From: Mark >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: [AVALON] DVD and 'The Times..' >Reply-To: mark@olivetreepl.plus.com >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:18:46 +0000 > > >Firstly- does anyone know where to get the new DVD? Amazon are saying you >can only get it via the US and it seems to have disappeared off all other >vendors' sites. > >Secondly, listened to the snippet of 'The times they are a changin' on >the Ken Bruce show and was not very impressed- it sounded like it had >been knocked out quickly. I sincerely hope there's something better than >this on the album. > >What I'm hoping for is some of the brilliant invention we've seen in >other covers such as Hard rain- am I hoping for too much? Maybe it's just >too easy to go into the studio and knock out an album of passable but not >very interesting covers in a week when you;ve got Colin Good next to you. > >Ho- hum, I think I'll wait to see what it's like before I buy. > >Mactheaxe > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V12 #9 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest