From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V11 #270 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, November 20 2006 Volume 11 : Number 270 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: RE: [AVALON] Re: Spring 2007 tour [] Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number ["michiel" ] RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number [] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:32:58 -0000 From: Subject: RE: RE: [AVALON] Re: Spring 2007 tour Eileen, Sorry I did mean to copy my initial response to the list for any other responses. Hopefully he'll take Roxy to New York & Los Angeles etc. Maybe he's too busy finishing the Roxy Album! Cheers ROb - -----Original Message----- From: avalon887@verizon.net [mailto:avalon887@verizon.net] Sent: 19 November 2006 12:17 To: rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] Re: Spring 2007 tour I don't know. I do know that I was up front and enjoyed every minute of him and the band. And... if he needs $$$, then why not add some venues in America? Eileen From: rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk Date: 2006/11/18 Sat PM 12:36:49 CST To: avalon887@verizon.net Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Spring 2007 tour - -----Original Message----- From: avalon887@verizon.net [mailto:avalon887@verizon.net] Sent: 18 November 2006 15:47 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Re: Spring 2007 tour Didn't he get some walk outs and general bad feedback from the ATGB gigs in America? Maybe he's not risking that again if the setlist is not mainstream hi. Doesn't he like us over here anymore? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:03:53 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Funny enough the lines "She just a lonely heart--it's tearing me apart", "He just a lonely heart--it's tearing me apart" and "Nobody knows the trouble I see Nobody cares--nobody but me" are also about the writer himself (whether Dave Stewart or Bryan Ferry). So the three appearances of the word "me" in these lines would fit in perfectly with the 'me me me persona' Jonathan mentioned. Michiel - ----- Original Message ----- From: "KB Porter" To: Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 3:59 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number >I see your point, Jonathan: I'd not previously considered the validity of > 'macro' juxtaposed to 'micro' tragedy, nor, "It's an atypical, "its a > tough > old world in all sorts of ways" lyric" coupled with an empathetic > "horrible > things happen to people on various levels" point of view. Certainly it > seems to be a fatalistic view of things; I've always believed an > individual > largely controls their perception and experiences in life, while 'macro' > tragedy is the culmination of circumstances largely beyond personal > control. > I concede, however, that some individuals might be 'torn' by 'all the > misery > they see' regardless of the level at which various tragedies occur. > > Mr. Ferry doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would acutely 'feel' > or care about any other's problems or tragedies. So "Cruel" lyrically > doesn't fly for me on the argument that, perhaps, "...for once he's taking > a > larger world view than the usual lounge lizard/its all me me me > persona....", i.e.. "She just a lonely heart--it's tearing me apart", "He > just a lonely heart--it's tearing me apart", Nobody knows the trouble I > see > Nobody cares--nobody but me". Ferry is and always has been 'about me', > therefore this lyric strikes me as disingenuous and insincere. > > Thanks for your response. KBP > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:22:44 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number It's the beat and the hook line that make Cruel, especially on Alphaville. "Why in the World, are you so...............CRUEL" is Ferrys best Chorus line for ages. I think Cruel would have been a biggish hit given the right timing. Goddess of Love a poor single choice. - -----Original Message----- From: michiel [mailto:mvsleen@hotmail.com] Sent: 19 November 2006 13:04 To: KB Porter; Avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Funny enough the lines "She just a lonely heart--it's tearing me apart", "He just a lonely heart--it's tearing me apart" and "Nobody knows the trouble I see Nobody cares--nobody but me" are also about the writer himself (whether Dave Stewart or Bryan Ferry). So the three appearances of the word "me" in these lines would fit in perfectly with the 'me me me persona' Jonathan mentioned. Michiel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:27:47 -0500 From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: UK Tour Hey All! Greetings from (where am I today? Oh yes....) Little Rock! Just a quick question for our freinds on the right hand side of the pond: If one were to try at the last minute to get over to the UK to see a show (NOT in London or Edinbrough or Glasgow) what would be the LEAST likely city to sell out? Answer publicly or privately. Thanks! - --Andrew (usually) in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:24:08 -0600 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: [AVALON] Two early Ferry shows online In the concerts section, page 7, there are two shows from the Bottom Line. http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/Home.aspx Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:39:25 -0000 From: "Colette Robertson" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Tour A possible timetable.......................... Dylan/Ferry album and tour in spring 2007. Any press or publicity will drop in the fact that the Roxy album is in the pipeline. Autumn 2007 or thereabouts for the release of the new Roxy album Possible Roxy tour in November/December OR announcement of Roxy tour for spring 2008. New Roxy album picks up pace and interest for pre-Christmas sales period. Roxy Music induction into the UK Music Hall of Fame which takes place in November. New album does even better in the Christmas sales period. Roxy Music are given the 2008 Brit Award for "Outstanding Contribution" at the February Ceremony. I live in hope. Cheers, Colette - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Richard Evans Sent: 17 November 2006 20:48 To: Avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Tour I'll be at Bristol too - actually I am looking forward to this - I loved the ATGB tour - something different from El Ferranti According to Leo Abrahams the album was done with a live band in the studio immediately after the 2006 summer jaunt - very organic and if you think about the time from recording to release it will probably be the most efficient and trouble fee of Bryan's solo records - about six months Still looking forward to the new Roxy album tho' The Dylan thing is a good move - get out there - get some kudos for the Dylan thing - heightens interest etc If the Dylan thing is slagged off the new Roxy album will start with an advantage with critics saying BF should stick with Roxy Cheers Richard PS the new Roxy DVD looks good - I missed Eddie Jobson with the band and I look foorward to the Siren vintage - (the Country Life tour would be better tho) All win as far as I can see On 17 Nov 2006, at 20:23, Mikejhallett@aol.com wrote: > All a bit quiet out there regarding the Tour Dates? > Presumably you all have seen the info on These Vintage Years? > > My Daughter bought me tickets today for Bristol Colston Hall 16th > March ' 07 > - managed to get 2nd Row from front - so maybe not much of a demand > as yet, > although hardly surprising that the gig has not sold out in the > first few > hours of tickets going on sell !! > > Mike > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _____ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:24:27 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Tour In a message dated 19/11/2006 19:19:21 GMT Standard Time, cr011a2978@blueyonder.co.uk writes: I live in hope. You live on Mars by the sound of things, but here's to hoping! ;) That would be a sensible course of action though although I doubt Ferry has any chance of a lifetime achievement award after the 'My brave son' farago at the Q awards a few years back... As ever, we shall see (eventually).......... J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:29:01 EST From: LottieStreeter2@cs.com Subject: [AVALON] Cruel Lyrics Michiel writes : I suspect Dave Stewart wrote the American Indian lines and Bryan Ferry came up with the factory problems. I suspect Dave Stewart wrote the entire song until the celebrities are mentioned at the end. Doesn't sound Ferryish at all. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:06:34 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Tour As ever BryanFerry.com on the money with up to date information. Thank goodness for vivaroxymysic and roxyrama. Andrew ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V11 #270 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest